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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Please don't.
    FiveB247x wrote:
    It's so sad to me that this is even a story. Our nation has become a society of simple minded fools which boils everything down to a TMZ gossip story. And anyone who claims this somehow matters (other than on his personal life) is insane. If you draw your morals or codes or parenting skills from politicians, movies stars, musicians or sports stars, you're far more a fool than anything the likes this fellow did or said.


    i, personally, draw my morals from you.
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  • but he is a married man.

    And so am I.

    But neither one of us is married to you. So you're not really a concerned party.

    For all you know, his wife is totally down with it. And really... if getting a bit naughty on the weekend is a crime, I should be on death row.

    there is a definite pattern there. he is a representative and a government official and out of respect to his district he should act accordingly.

    And what is accordingly, exactly? You want him to only have sex in the missionary position with the lights off while she closes her eyes and thinks of England? Because I'd much rather have a guy who isn't going to try to tell me how to live my personal life and then pass laws to make sure I follow his rules.

    Call me an anarchist if you must.
    and when he was caught he should have been a man and admitted it straight away instead of giving his half assed excuse that he "did not know if it was a pic of me or not".

    I'm half with you. I think he should have said "none of your damn business and did you elect me to help run the country or be Pope, because I can't be both and neither can the Pope."
    but i am not a public servant, and if i were it would have influenced my decision and my conduct. but since i am not and i am a quiet, unknown nobody, i figured "why not?".

    And I think even the people we elect to make our laws shouldn't be held to different standards than us. If it's OK for you to do it... then it's OK for me to do it and it's OK him him to do it too.
  • His sexting may have been "immoral".
    His lies and how they were conducted is deplorable.


    I think his sexting was both "moral" and "harmless" and I also think it's SO absurd when faceless people on the internet hop on a high moral pedestal.

    And yeah, not just shrugging it off and saying "I'm a bad widdle boy" was kinda silly. But Republicans would have been throwing a fit either way.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    but he is a married man.

    And so am I.

    how does that add up with this statement?
    Buddy, I've done worse things that that this morning. And I'm not even kidding. Yes, in fact today, while sitting at my desk I actually DID sext a cell phone picture of my dick to a guy I met on Grindr. And nobody was hurt by it.

    You said you were married? :lol: Now the best part to get some real insight
    we're giving BP a 3 trillion dollar tax cut
    :o

    only thing that cost us $3 trillion dollars is this piece of shit donkey. You need to check your figures, decimal points, commas. All that.
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  • how does that add up with this statement?

    You said you were married? :lol: Now the best part to get some real insight

    Yeah. And the parameters of my marriage are maybe different than they are in yours. Which, last time I checked, is legal in this country, right? (although if Republicans get their way, they'll pass plenty of laws to make sure all Americans follow the approved GOP moral code.
    we're giving BP a 3 trillion dollar tax cut

    only thing that cost us $3 trillion dollars is ...

    Um... you apparently need to figure out the art of "sarcastic exaggeration detection."

    Of course we're not giving BP a 3 Trillion dollar tax cut. (We're actually giving them a 10 billion-dollar tax cut. I guess you're more comfortable with that.)

    Now you can go back to the rest of my post and I'll tell you now that we're not REALLY turning over our election process to a Chinese company. Exactly. But kind of. In a funny sort of way.

    And in the end, I still don't care if you don't approve of my being a bit naughty when I feel like it and I don't care if Wiener showed his wiener to some girl who wanted to see it.

    Why do you? Really.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    how does that add up with this statement?

    You said you were married? :lol: Now the best part to get some real insight

    Yeah. And the parameters of my marriage are maybe different than they are in yours. Which, last time I checked, is legal in this country, right?

    i guess, if you are married to a woman. otherwise, I do not recognize same sex marriages nor does the federal government last i checked. I believe it should continue to be prohibited as is the case in most states to this day. But I guess we are just splitting hairs.
  • i guess, if you are married to a woman.

    I'm not. My husband and I have been together for 19 years. So we're doing something right, my sister has had 3 "opposite marriages" in that time. I think Larry King has had like... 6?

    We were married in our country of Canada where the federal government and the majority of Canadians do recognize our marriage. But we live in America now. Where just this year, support for gay marriage has passed the 51% level.
    otherwise, I do not recognize same sex marriages nor does the federal government last i checked. I believe it should continue to be prohibited as is the case in most states to this day. But I guess we are just splitting hairs.

    And I care even less about what you believe than I do about whether Wiener showed his wiener to some woman who wanted to see it. I don't recall you asking for my approval on your marriage. But you'd get it... I think all couples should define the parameters of their relationships. Even the boring, uptight people.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    although this thread would be better if it were about me, looks like we are going to get some X-rated photos released of Weiner in the days to come.
    Where just this year, support for gay marriage has passed the 51trillion% level.
  • although this thread would be better if it were about me, looks like we are going to get some X-rated photos released of Weiner in the days to come.

    And I still won't care.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    :o
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    The thing that pisses me off about this story and other politicians who engage in their little sex episodes, is that they end up –supporting and passing laws - that allow State and Federal governments to invade the privacy of our homes, our rights as parents, and, our rights as adults and individuals to compensate for their wrongdoing. If a person wants to engage in sexing, then own it, and deal with it when you get called on it – Don’t make society have to pay for it.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I don't care that this guy sexted his weiner to some chick. It probably does happen all the time.
    What i do care about is that he is that fucking stupid to have done this thinking he might never get caught.
    In this day and age, for fucksake, you cannot get away with this kind of thing.. especially if you're an elected official...

    ..which leads me to wonder how many of these idiots might be doing it on purpose (getting caught), to create controversy to get paid for a shitty book deal or something similar. I don;t know.. its just baffling to me that anyone in his position would take that chance. Absolutely ridiculously stupid.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    he should resign. but it would be funny if he ran again and won...
    I would imagine (and hope) that even if his district leans very democratic, that they would at least take him down in a primary.

    I think if the pressure wasn't on from the democratic higher-ups for him to resign before yesterday, it's boiling today.

    Also, I feel sorry for his wife. I can only imagine the hurt and betrayal I would feel if I found out my wife of one year was engaged in multiple online sexual quests with other men ... now magnify that by being in the public spotlight ... bad times for her. :(
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    first off...this isn't a moral issue...it is a lying to your constituents issue. That isn't acceptable from an elected official. We cannot always catch the lies that spew forth from politicians but when we do they need to be examined further. This is a deceitful pattern it would seem, this shows at best poor judgement and at worse a systematic practice of deceit for the last year and change with his wife. I could care less about the infidelity honestly, but his judgement should be questioned and his character is also fair game and those are things that we elect officials for...judgement is huge and if he shows poor judgement on something this silly, what else is he showing poor judgement on...

    This was easily avoidable, he tells the truth right away and this is a non-story...
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    The guy is an idiot... an idiot for sending pics of his junk to random girls he met online, an idiot for doing it while married, and an bigger idiot for changing his story 15 times over the last two weeks.

    If the day it came out, he said "Yes it was me, I did something stupid, I apologize blah blah blah", it would have been funny news for like two days and we'd move on to something else or another media invented "scandal".

    Should elected officials be held to a higher standard? Yes... But he's not my representative, so I don't care what happens to him... If his constituents want him out next election, they can vote for someone else.

    I do agree that this does shed some light on his character though. If he lies to his wife, lies to his constituents, and has bad enough judgement to go flirting with numerous chicks on the internet, maybe he shouldn't be representing people. I can just picture a guy like this saying things that shouldn't, to some chick in a bar, just to impress her.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • OK, but how do we know he lied to his wife?

    I mean... maybe she was aware of it the whole time.

    Maybe she's OK with it.

    Maybe it was her idea.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    OK, but how do we know he lied to his wife?

    I mean... maybe she was aware of it the whole time.

    Maybe she's OK with it.

    Maybe it was her idea.

    Just going by his quote:
    “I have made a terrible mistake and am deeply sorry for the pain I have caused to my friends, family and especially my wife, Huma,” a tearful Weiner said. “I have not told the truth and done things I sincerely regret.”

    I feel like a 12 year old talking about this story... I just noticed when I found that quote, that his wife's name is "Huma"... not sure how it's pronounced, but in my head I read it as "Humma", and the name Humma Weiner made me giggle :lol:
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • the name Humma Weiner made me giggle :lol:


    Just so we're clear on this...

    The part of me that is a gay porn director and producer and blogger, stand up comedian and all around twisted MOFO thinks this story is comedy GOLD.

    But the parts that are going into my act aren't the dick jokes or the "how can you be so stupid" that most mainstream, straight people are vamping on... it's how an awful lot of straight, mainstream news casters and people in general are having SO much trouble keeping it together while talking about Wiener's Wiener and Huma Wiener and most of all... the "why didn't I think of that" aspect.

    OH... and even funnier is the vaguely nervous look on the faces of a LOT of straight married guys when they talk about this story.

    In a recent monologue I did I talk about Grindr and how straight guys don't know what it is but when I pull out my iPhone and show them just how easy it is for gay guys to hook up with the magic of Sexting meeting the world of GPS, you can see... for about 2 seconds.... every one of them considers turning gay. Which is always followed by a look of horror when they remember what that means.

    (I then usually follow up with a joke about how I once accidentally flirted with my twin brother on Grindr and just how awkward our next dinner party was)
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    I can just picture a guy like this saying things that shouldn't, to some chick in a bar, just to impress her.
    Yeah, kinda like when Capt. Stillman tried to impress that girl by showing her the EM50 Urban Assault Vehicle. :lol:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYrn6WRo1MKid9eJMzrLlDwrTQD6-0i8laKqdJyyIU8aWjW6d_tg

    Weiner better watch it or he may end up managing an outpost in Alaska. :mrgreen:
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Jason P wrote:
    I can just picture a guy like this saying things that shouldn't, to some chick in a bar, just to impress her.
    Yeah, kinda like when Capt. Stillman tried to impress that girl by showing her the EM50 Urban Assault Vehicle. :lol:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYrn6WRo1MKid9eJMzrLlDwrTQD6-0i8laKqdJyyIU8aWjW6d_tg

    Egg-sactly :)

    What a great movie...
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
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    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    The morality police called and asked you to resign your current position. Weiner showed poor character, humiliated himself and his wife and it's all in his personal life. If we want to start investigating the morality and character of members of congress, we would have no one in office. This man cheating or lying to his wife and having it dragged out in the public as if he owe's the public any apology is ridiculous. Our society likes to think you're due something or owed something.. you're not. Everyone get off their high horse and stay out of this man's bedroom, even if he's made a mess of it. If the government acted this way towards citizens, people would be outraged, but the shoe's on the other foot and somehow you justify it. It's nonsense. Anyways, if people are that offended, don't vote for him next time around and life goes on.
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    first off...this isn't a moral issue...it is a lying to your constituents issue. That isn't acceptable from an elected official. We cannot always catch the lies that spew forth from politicians but when we do they need to be examined further. This is a deceitful pattern it would seem, this shows at best poor judgement and at worse a systematic practice of deceit for the last year and change with his wife. I could care less about the infidelity honestly, but his judgement should be questioned and his character is also fair game and those are things that we elect officials for...judgement is huge and if he shows poor judgement on something this silly, what else is he showing poor judgement on...

    This was easily avoidable, he tells the truth right away and this is a non-story...
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    he should resign. but it would be funny if he ran again and won...
    I would imagine (and hope) that even if his district leans very democratic, that they would at least take him down in a primary.

    I think if the pressure wasn't on from the democratic higher-ups for him to resign before yesterday, it's boiling today.

    Also, I feel sorry for his wife. I can only imagine the hurt and betrayal I would feel if I found out my wife of one year was engaged in multiple online sexual quests with other men ... now magnify that by being in the public spotlight ... bad times for her. :(
    the pressure is on him to resign. but i think he may weather it.

    by the way, i am sure she is crushed..i know how i felt when i found out how my ex was engaged in multiple online sexual quests with other men, so yeah, i know what she is going through.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    FiveB247x wrote:
    Everyone get off their high horse and stay out of this man's bedroom, even if he's made a mess of it.
    I believe we stayed out of his bedroom but Weiner brought his bedroom to us. Weiner was the Gatekeeper. Twitter was the Keymaster.

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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    FiveB247x wrote:
    The morality police called and asked you to resign your current position. Weiner showed poor character, humiliated himself and his wife and it's all in his personal life. If we want to start investigating the morality and character of members of congress, we would have no one in office. This man cheating or lying to his wife and having it dragged out in the public as if he owe's the public any apology is ridiculous. Our society likes to think you're due something or owed something.. you're not. Everyone get off their high horse and stay out of this man's bedroom, even if he's made a mess of it. If the government acted this way towards citizens, people would be outraged, but the shoe's on the other foot and somehow you justify it. It's nonsense. Anyways, if people are that offended, don't vote for him next time around and life goes on.
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    first off...this isn't a moral issue...it is a lying to your constituents issue. That isn't acceptable from an elected official. We cannot always catch the lies that spew forth from politicians but when we do they need to be examined further. This is a deceitful pattern it would seem, this shows at best poor judgement and at worse a systematic practice of deceit for the last year and change with his wife. I could care less about the infidelity honestly, but his judgement should be questioned and his character is also fair game and those are things that we elect officials for...judgement is huge and if he shows poor judgement on something this silly, what else is he showing poor judgement on...

    This was easily avoidable, he tells the truth right away and this is a non-story...


    I never said anything about being the morality police...in fact I said I dont care about the infidelity stuff...but the fact tht he lied to his constituents and his wife shows more than something as easy as "I made a mistake"...it shows me that he cannot be trusted by those he should be truthful too....it also calls into question his ability to use his best judgement

    If the government acted what way specifically?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    I can just picture a guy like this saying things that shouldn't, to some chick in a bar, just to impress her.
    Yeah, kinda like when Capt. Stillman tried to impress that girl by showing her the EM50 Urban Assault Vehicle. :lol:

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYrn6WRo1MKid9eJMzrLlDwrTQD6-0i8laKqdJyyIU8aWjW6d_tg

    Weiner better watch it or he may end up managing an outpost in Alaska. :mrgreen:
    for some reason your pic, and this entire thread reminded me of this.... :lol::lol:


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    batman had the batmobile, congressman weiner has the weinermobile...
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    He lied about a personal matter in which the public doesn't really need to know the answer for any real substantive reason. Yes you can question his character, but in all honesty, the real question is does it prohibit him from doing his job and the answer is absolutely not. If everyone who cheated on their spouse or partner lost their job because of their character we'd have a massive amount of people out of work. I believe something like 60% of men and 40% of women cheat in their marriages. And in terms of my comment about the government acting this way - I mean the public does not want the government invading their privacy and private lives, yet look what happens when the shoe is on the other foot. If we seek morality, character and honor, do not look to politicians or figures in the public light... the nativity in doing so shows more on the viewer than the viewed.
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I never said anything about being the morality police...in fact I said I dont care about the infidelity stuff...but the fact tht he lied to his constituents and his wife shows more than something as easy as "I made a mistake"...it shows me that he cannot be trusted by those he should be truthful too....it also calls into question his ability to use his best judgement

    If the government acted what way specifically?
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    FiveB247x wrote:
    He lied about a personal matter in which the public doesn't really need to know the answer for any real substantive reason. Yes you can question his character, but in all honesty, the real question is does it prohibit him from doing his job and the answer is absolutely not. If everyone who cheated on their spouse or partner lost their job because of their character we'd have a massive amount of people out of work. I believe something like 60% of men and 40% of women cheat in their marriages. And in terms of my comment about the government acting this way - I mean the public does not want the government invading their privacy and private lives, yet look what happens when the shoe is on the other foot. If we seek morality, character and honor, do not look to politicians or figures in the public light... the nativity in doing so shows more on the viewer than the viewed.
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    I never said anything about being the morality police...in fact I said I dont care about the infidelity stuff...but the fact tht he lied to his constituents and his wife shows more than something as easy as "I made a mistake"...it shows me that he cannot be trusted by those he should be truthful too....it also calls into question his ability to use his best judgement

    If the government acted what way specifically?
    showing poor judgement should make us question his ability to do his job. Using sound judgement is part of the job. again, not about the morality of it all, more about his judgement. I think it sheds light on his inability to use sound judgement...you seem to think it means that I am a prude who wants to invade his bedroom.

    as far as the other side of things...the government gets into people's personal business EVERYDAY
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    So would you force the removal of any public official because of poor judgment? Does that include poor work performance which is just as equally important when discussing judgment? What you're alluding too is full accountability, and in all honesty, we've never ever demanded it, nor expect it. You claim in this instance poor judgment shows he's unable to do his job, couldn't you say the same of the endless laundry list of policies and actions of every other government official? My point is, you're asking or basing this on something that has and never will be done. If he resigns it will be because of shame and public pressure in some form of false morality code - not because he can't do his job or that people really have no confidence in his ability to do his job. Lastly, the government does get into people's business, but not necessarily your private affairs. Some policies do that, but in terms of infidelity leading to lost of job or ability to do your job? Nothing like that at all.
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    showing poor judgement should make us question his ability to do his job. Using sound judgement is part of the job. again, not about the morality of it all, more about his judgement. I think it sheds light on his inability to use sound judgement...you seem to think it means that I am a prude who wants to invade his bedroom.

    as far as the other side of things...the government gets into people's personal business EVERYDAY
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    FiveB247x wrote:
    So would you force the removal of any public official because of poor judgment? Does that include poor work performance which is just as equally important when discussing judgment? What you're alluding too is full accountability, and in all honesty, we've never ever demanded it, nor expect it. You claim in this instance poor judgment shows he's unable to do his job, couldn't you say the same of the endless laundry list of policies and actions of every other government official? My point is, you're asking or basing this on something that has and never will be done. If he resigns it will be because of shame and public pressure in some form of false morality code - not because he can't do his job or that people really have no confidence in his ability to do his job. Lastly, the government does get into people's business, but not necessarily your private affairs. Some policies do that, but in terms of infidelity leading to lost of job or ability to do your job? Nothing like that at all.
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    showing poor judgement should make us question his ability to do his job. Using sound judgement is part of the job. again, not about the morality of it all, more about his judgement. I think it sheds light on his inability to use sound judgement...you seem to think it means that I am a prude who wants to invade his bedroom.

    as far as the other side of things...the government gets into people's personal business EVERYDAY


    and no, I never said force the removal of, but I certainly wouldn't vote for him,
    people are put through the very public court system everyday for things that shoud be private matters.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    If you do something illegal it doesn't matter if it's personal or not... people somehow feel in our society (as a whole) as if it is ok to be on trial for something that's not illegal. We have low-brow morals yet expect others to act as deities. It's just for entertainment and false outrage.
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    no, I never said force the removal of, but I certainly wouldn't vote for him,
    people are put through the very public court system everyday for things that shoud be private matters.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
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