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usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
edited May 2011 in A Moving Train
Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.

:D

"The road to bin Laden began with waterboarding," Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., House Homeland Security Chairman, said in an NBC News interview in which he asserted that waterboarding is a "moral imperative" that "saves lives."
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    as long as you're ok with other countries doing it to your soldiers or in many cases of the for US detainees, non soldiers then yeah, its great
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.

    :D

    "The road to bin Laden began with waterboarding," Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., House Homeland Security Chairman, said in an NBC News interview in which he asserted that waterboarding is a "moral imperative" that "saves lives."

    Now ask yourself, how many more terrorists has waterboarding and other forms of torture created?

    Still smiling?
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,437
    This is not a personal attack and I honestly mean no disrespect to anyone on this board, but the Pearl Jam Forum is the last place I would have ever expected to see someone write something supporting the use of torture for any reason. :(
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  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    1030-02.jpg

    Photo taken in 2003. Also, what are you doing taking a picture form Commondreams.org? I understand, I read the Weekly Standard every week.
  • marcosmarcos Posts: 2,112
    Check out the discussion at the 9 minute 10 second mark of the following interview on Stern, this comidian is a conservative but very funny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6z_ul6DfMs&feature=youtube_gdata_player
  • zarocatzarocat Posts: 1,901
    edited May 2011
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    "The road to bin Laden began with waterboarding," Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., House Homeland Security Chairman, said in an NBC News interview

    BULLSHIT! Propaganda! Using his death to condone.
    Does that make sense to you ? That water boarding is the root cause of Osama's assassination.

    Give me a fuckin' break. That man, Mr. King, is definitely at a lower level of intelligence than the ones I know.

    Homeland Security Chairman ... :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    No shit, the Homeland Security Chairman said that ... then it's true!

    WHAT A FARCE.

    I was happy and now I'm mad. Thanks King, for taking advantage of the gullible.

    This is an example of what pisses me off.

    eeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    The root cause of Osama's assassination was water boarding ... you kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    MrAbraham wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.

    :D

    "The road to bin Laden began with waterboarding," Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., House Homeland Security Chairman, said in an NBC News interview in which he asserted that waterboarding is a "moral imperative" that "saves lives."

    Now ask yourself, how many more terrorists has waterboarding and other forms of torture created?

    Still smiling?
    people seem to forget that every one of those people who are waterboarded or held without charge or trial in gitmo has relatives. they have brothers or sisters or sons or daughters who will grow to hate america because of what we have done to their family members. some of them will act on that hatred. it is the same thing as someone who lost someone close on 9/11 signing up for the army so they can go kill some arabs. i would like to think that all human beings are above this line of thinking, but sadly not all of us are...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Send 'em back to the stone age...
    Or further
    Besides, last I heard we got some Of his family too!

    wOOT
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    So what exactly would you like to happen? What does "bomb them to the stone age" actually mean? Care to be more specific? Just curious.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited May 2011
    The guys we are talking about that we are hunting. Do you know what they do? How they treat women/freedom?
    Send 'em back. I didn't say bomb 'em. Whatever it takes, overtime pay for NAvy seals APPROVEd!

    Winning!
    Bush kept us safe, now Obama is following suit. :D

    Besides, we only shot Obl's skank in the ank.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    The guys we are talking about that we are hunting. Do you know what they do? How they treat women/freedom?
    Send 'em back. I didn't say bomb 'em. Whatever it takes, overtime pay for NAvy seals APPROVEd!
    well how would you send someone back to the stone age without some sort of incendiary device???
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Economic sanctions. :lol:
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Well as I'm sure you're aware, there's no one location or nation to carry this out. It's not like simply saying let's take down (insert nation here). It's a different fight and the unless we're prepared (as a society) to rid the world of all of them (which is something we're not nor have ever been), we're just skimming the fat off the top... until the next bunch come around. But like most things in our nation, we don't address them til it's already too late.
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    The guys we are talking about that we are hunting. Do you know what they do? How they treat women/freedom?
    Send 'em back. I didn't say bomb 'em. Whatever it takes, overtime pay for NAvy seals APPROVEd!
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    edited May 2011
    GW is going to continue to prove his awesomeness!

    Woot!

    Non-believers. :lol:
    Decision points
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  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Will there be a late show where you can continue more of your comic stylings?
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    GW is going to continue to prove his awesomeness!

    Woot!

    Non-believers. :lol:
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • WildsWilds Posts: 4,329
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    The guys we are talking about that we are hunting. Do you know what they do? How they treat women/freedom?
    Send 'em back. I didn't say bomb 'em. Whatever it takes, overtime pay for NAvy seals APPROVEd!
    well how would you send someone back to the stone age without some sort of incendiary device???

    Time Machine?
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    ^
    forward thinking. Moving train deserves nothing less!

    God bless America
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Not exactly forward thinking. Can't bomb the world into submission or long term peace.
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    ^
    forward thinking. Moving train deserves nothing less!

    God bless America
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    I am a realist. We can't all get along. In the meantime, I am prepared to accept imperfections in my team. I look past the costs because I realize the rewards. We must destroy them, the evil do'ers. ;)
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Well if you claim to be a realist or pragmatical, you'd recognize that if you "destroy the evil do'ers", in the process you're hurting innocents along the way. Perhaps in the long run you can merely claim it's not the intention or motive, but if continued to such extremes, you've been brought down to the opponents level. And in the end, the "evil do'ers" will never be gone, but your moral high ground, respect of others and rule of law will be.
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    I am a realist. We can't all get along. In the meantime, I am prepared to accept imperfections in my team. I look past the costs because I realize the rewards. We must destroy them, the evil do'ers. ;)
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    It's a natural compromise of survival. Of winning by accounting for the penalties of some fouls here and there. It's a big picture. ;)

    I'll keep the high ground. That's where you win from.
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Yeah but you're missing the point - you're lowering yourself, not keeping the high ground. As for "survival", that's an overly dramatic generalization of reality. The likelihood is that if we continue fighting wars and acting in the world as we do, the greater the risk of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons will be used against us. We continue to lower our standards, yet continue to escalate the dangers... not a good combination and certainty doesn't breed stability, peace or winning.
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    It's a natural compromise of survival. Of winning by accounting for the penalties of some fouls here and there. It's a big picture. ;)

    I'll keep the high ground. That's where you win from.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    Do not get complacent. This means aggressive offense of the Rats...that I want destroyed. People who wish harm on my country?
    I disagree with your laid back approach and I say smoke them sum bitches out. It is survival. Don't kid yourself

    good 'ol fashioned enhanced interrogation techniques

    High ground wins.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,437
    Well said, gimmesometruth27 and FiveB247x. Thank you!

    All the other talk of justifying torture is getting to me. Adios till next time.
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,196
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Intelligence garnered from waterboarded detainees was used to track down al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and kill him, CIA Chief Leon Panetta told NBC News on Tuesday.

    :D

    "The road to bin Laden began with waterboarding," Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., House Homeland Security Chairman, said in an NBC News interview in which he asserted that waterboarding is a "moral imperative" that "saves lives."

    Doubtful.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Do not get complacent. This means aggressive offense of the Rats...that I want destroyed. People who wish harm on my country?
    I disagree with your laid back approach and I say smoke them sum bitches out. It is survival. Don't kid yourself

    good 'ol fashioned enhanced interrogation techniques

    High ground wins.
    this attitude and arrogance is why they hate us. can't you see that?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    They hate us because we have an entire isle of different cereal...
  • FiveB247xFiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    And where exactly do you plan on practicing these measures? We gonna keep invading every nation? Or perhaps you don't realize that everytime we enter one of these nations, we leave it worse off for the locals, and it turns into a breading ground for more "rats"?

    Seems like you're too busy aiming your crosshairs at a few miscreants but ignoring what our own government is doing is the world. You know like selling arms to Pakistan while negotiating (Bush's policies) and they didn't help us get Osama (and possibly knew exactly where he was). Or perhaps continue to back Saudi Arabia for our oil interests while they continue to breed terror in the region? Your notion of a solution isn't practical nor fits the real world of what we do and what others will allow for.

    Ps.. it's "aisle"... an "isle" is an island...and we're not an island of cereal ;)
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    Do not get complacent. This means aggressive offense of the Rats...that I want destroyed. People who wish harm on my country?
    I disagree with your laid back approach and I say smoke them sum bitches out. It is survival. Don't kid yourself

    good 'ol fashioned enhanced interrogation techniques

    High ground wins.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    My NOTION is what we are practicing....homeboy
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