As Ed said in Uniondale: USA! USA! USA! That's my take!
100 to 1 Ed is NOT chanting USA USA USA this morning. This very mentality is one of the main reasons I see myself leaving this country in the future. It's embarrassing. Thank god for dual citizenship.
please leave asap
It is embarrassing. Maybe not to everyone, but it's still embarrassing.
The fact is that this prick is now sleeping with the fish let's us NY'kers revel in this day i'm happy that at least the people who lost someone on 9/11 can feel some sort of Justice , and flying hasn't been safe since then and it will allways be unsafe that is the reality of the world we live in ....
The fact is that this prick is now sleeping with the fish let's us NY'kers revel in this day i'm happy that at least the people who lost someone on 9/11 can feel some sort of Justice , and flying hasn't been safe since then and it will allways be unsafe that is the reality of the world we live in ....
sure,the NY'kers felt this more than anyone and i understand why today feel justice...
but really jose,i feel more unsafe..i thought if this murderer was dead ill feel safer..but i think those muslims,jihad or whatever will try to make feel more fear in the future..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The fact is that this prick is now sleeping with the fish let's us NY'kers revel in this day i'm happy that at least the people who lost someone on 9/11 can feel some sort of Justice , and flying hasn't been safe since then and it will allways be unsafe that is the reality of the world we live in ....
people outside of the impacted zones will never fully understand ....they may understand but the shit i saw in front of my face and the pain i go through can only be understood if you were directly involved
yes everyone all over should be worried ....but living in ny takes it to a whole new level
as i look out my work window i see helicopters hovering over the brooklyn bridge to my right
2 new towers being built to my left
so fucked up
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
The fact is that this prick is now sleeping with the fish let's us NY'kers revel in this day i'm happy that at least the people who lost someone on 9/11 can feel some sort of Justice , and flying hasn't been safe since then and it will allways be unsafe that is the reality of the world we live in ....
sure,the NY'kers felt this more than anyone and i understand why today feel justice...
but really jose,i feel more unsafe..i thought if this murderer was dead ill feel safer..but i think those muslims,jihad or whatever will try to make feel more fear in the future..
you should feel unsafe
i do....i will never let them interupt my life...but i am always on my toes
airports will never be fun again as long as we live///// its as simple as that
i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
As I respect the opinions of everyone who has posted in this thread, I would have to ask all foreigners who have not experienced an attack as horrific as 9/11 to be quiet. You have to put your minds into the minds of Americans and not say how wrong it is we are acting (though you may think America's reaction is wrong, that idc about) but that reacting the way we did is understandable. Obviously after initial celebration we realize the obvious sense of danger us Americans are now in for retaliation. This is how I put it in a conversation i had with a friend over facebook last night...i feel like it's worth repeating on here
"i will have to disagree with you on that (in reference to the fact you don't think things will change). We can finally have closure on this chapter in American History. Though it's been a decade, 9/11 seems like yesterday. 9/11 has been relevant throughout this time, and now, as Khalid Sheik Muhammad is being put to trial, and as these wars are (hopefully) dying down. We can now look at 9/11 not as a current event but as an historical event like how we look at something like pearl harbor today. and with this new closure comes a new sentiment in the American people where we can finally go back to some sense of the American ways of life prior to 9/11."
after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we finally looked passed pearl harbor as a current and relevant event. America had closure after those bombings (whether one agrees with the bombings or not) and after Japan surrendered America rejoiced despite how inhumane those bombings were, because that chapter of American and world history was finally finished.
look, the way we Americans are acting today and how we acted last night is a mere act of human nature. The same way terrorists celebrated in the streets in the middle east. the same way any country in our position would rejoice. even Sweden. Face it, Sweden, Greece, [insert your country here], if it was your country, you and everyone else would act the same exact way as we American's did. It's human nature. and that's a fact.
Its a symbolic victory. Those that have suffered at the hands of Al Qaeda should feel some satisfaction.
But as far as world safety goes, its only one man in a network of thousands. I have no doubt in my mind that there are successors in waiting as well extensive plans contemplating Obama's demise.
Now about those gas prices Mr. President.........................
hey dimitris, i get what you are saying and very much respect it.
anybody else think last night was so surreal when you were watching the news? it was like I went back to 9/11/01...all of the same feelings and emotions came back. it was crazy. i actually started to cry.
You would think so.... I haven't seen proof yet.. not that I don't believe it though.
Looks like the reprisals will happen.. Hamas now condemning it as the "assassination of a holy warrior".... this is not good for the middle east conflict and thus world peace.
Hamas = not al Qaeda. They may be stating the above, but it has more to do with diminishing the influence of al Queda in Palestinian areas. (In other words; you should interpret the statement within the context of domestic politics.) I am not sure if your aiming at this, but I think it is important to clarify.
Even though there will probably be reprisals, I think that al Qaeda over the years has weakened and this is to a high degree a symbolic blow to this terrorist organization.
hey dimitris, i get what you are saying and very much respect it.
anybody else think last night was so surreal when you were watching the news? it was like I went back to 9/11/01...all of the same feelings and emotions came back. it was crazy. i actually started to cry.
Same here. After all this time I never really thought that we would get to the point where something like this would happen. I'm not a political person at all, I don't follow any of it. But I laid in bed and was proud last night. No, this doesn't mean peace on earth, it doesn't mean that we're going to stop having crazy airport security, it really doesn't change anything in the big picture. But, we said we were going to find and kill this dude almost 10 years and and it finally happened. Yes, there may be some negative outcomes from it but it's something that I feel, and a lot of others of course, needed to be done.
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The fact is that this prick is now sleeping with the fish let's us NY'kers revel in this day i'm happy that at least the people who lost someone on 9/11 can feel some sort of Justice , and flying hasn't been safe since then and it will allways be unsafe that is the reality of the world we live in ....
sure,the NY'kers felt this more than anyone and i understand why today feel justice...
but really jose,i feel more unsafe..i thought if this murderer was dead ill feel safer..but i think those muslims,jihad or whatever will try to make feel more fear in the future..
I hear you bro they will retaliate believe that ....
As I respect the opinions of everyone who has posted in this thread, I would have to ask all foreigners who have not experienced an attack as horrific as 9/11 to be quiet.
look, the way we Americans are acting today and how we acted last night is a mere act of human nature. The same way terrorists celebrated in the streets in the middle east. the same way any country in our position would rejoice. even Sweden. Face it, Sweden, Greece, [insert your country here], if it was your country, you and everyone else would act the same exact way as we American's did. It's human nature. and that's a fact.
Dear PJ Fan est. 1990,
I am not American, but I can understand the emotional reaction. What I do want to remind you of though is that most countries know how it is to be attacked on national soil; so we may not have experienced 9/11 directly, I think - due to our national histories - we can identify and still make sound statements. (Don't you?) Besides, there were also terrorist attacks (organized by al Queada) in Europe.
In short: no need to silence us.
That all said: this is in no way btw comparable to Hiroshima and Nagasaki; it is a complete different kind of war on a complete different scale (with complete different consequences). And compared to Japan; al Queada hasn't surrendered yet. So even though I get the jest of your statement, the comparison goes somewhat limp.
Ps: to Dimitris: do not be afraid, there is no more danger than yesterday for a terrorist attack. There will probably be reprisals, but not on the scale you are thinking of (i think at least). I think that it will be more directed towards American embassies. If al Queada was planning something big, they don't need Osama as an excuse. So enjoy PJ 20.
hey dimitris, i get what you are saying and very much respect it.
anybody else think last night was so surreal when you were watching the news? it was like I went back to 9/11/01...all of the same feelings and emotions came back. it was crazy. i actually started to cry.
Same here. After all this time I never really thought that we would get to the point where something like this would happen. I'm not a political person at all, I don't follow any of it. But I laid in bed and was proud last night. No, this doesn't mean peace on earth, it doesn't mean that we're going to stop having crazy airport security, it really doesn't change anything in the big picture. But, we said we were going to find and kill this dude almost 10 years and and it finally happened. Yes, there may be some negative outcomes from it but it's something that I feel, and a lot of others of course, needed to be done.
yeah guys...i get you ...you know,my country and me personally,belong to what we say west world...
those muslims has one goal only..to make us feel fear..and this attack at the towers did it...
i still remember the ccn live(all greeks channels was live with cnn)
America under attack..and all people around me was telling me the same..if this empire,called USA cant protect their home how the hell we can do it being so small.....
they put this fear inside us...and with this fucker dead ,i feel more to come..like given one more reason for attack to west civilaizations..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
yeah guys...i get you ...you know,my country and me personally,belong to what we say west world...
those muslims has one goal only..to make us feel fear..and this attack at the towers did it...
i still remember the ccn live(all greeks channels was live with cnn)
America under attack..and all people around me was telling me the same..if this empire,called USA cant protect their home how the hell we can do it being so small.....
they put this fear inside us...and with this fucker dead ,i feel more to come..like given one more reason for attack to west civilaizations..
Ps: to Dimitris: do not be afraid, there is no more danger than yesterday for a terrorist attack. There will probably be reprisals, but not on the scale you are thinking of (i think at least). I think that it will be more directed towards American embassies. If al Queada was planning something big, they don't need Osama as an excuse, do they? So enjoy PJ 20.
As I respect the opinions of everyone who has posted in this thread, I would have to ask all foreigners who have not experienced an attack as horrific as 9/11 to be quiet.
look, the way we Americans are acting today and how we acted last night is a mere act of human nature. The same way terrorists celebrated in the streets in the middle east. the same way any country in our position would rejoice. even Sweden. Face it, Sweden, Greece, [insert your country here], if it was your country, you and everyone else would act the same exact way as we American's did. It's human nature. and that's a fact.
i was in Madrid Spain at 11th march 2004 when al quida attact trains in the capital of Spain...
191 people die..Spain become a target cos Athar the prime minister deside to sent troups to Iraq to join usa
i saw only one thing at the eyes of spanish people..horor-fear.....undersand why Americans celebrate today..its normal...but the foreigners here has something u dont have right now..they imagive the next day..and it isnt safer....and most of our counties..like Sweden and Greece are ALLIES..with USA...
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
yeah guys...i get you ...you know,my country and me personally,belong to what we say west world...
those muslims has one goal only..to make us feel fear..and this attack at the towers did it...
i still remember the ccn live(all greeks channels was live with cnn)
America under attack..and all people around me was telling me the same..if this empire,called USA cant protect their home how the hell we can do it being so small.....
they put this fear inside us...and with this fucker dead ,i feel more to come..like given one more reason for attack to west civilaizations..
Ps: to Dimitris: do not be afraid, there is no more danger than yesterday for a terrorist attack. There will probably be reprisals, but not on the scale you are thinking of (i think at least). I think that it will be more directed towards American embassies. If al Queada was planning something big, they don't need Osama as an excuse, do they? So enjoy PJ 20.
true,but this today put again the fear in my head that i almost forgot
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
yeah guys...i get you ...you know,my country and me personally,belong to what we say west world...
those muslims has one goal only..to make us feel fear..and this attack at the towers did it...
i still remember the ccn live(all greeks channels was live with cnn)
America under attack..and all people around me was telling me the same..if this empire,called USA cant protect their home how the hell we can do it being so small.....
they put this fear inside us...and with this fucker dead ,i feel more to come..like given one more reason for attack to west civilaizations..
Ps: to Dimitris: do not be afraid, there is no more danger than yesterday for a terrorist attack. There will probably be reprisals, but not on the scale you are thinking of (i think at least). I think that it will be more directed towards American embassies. If al Queada was planning something big, they don't need Osama as an excuse, do they? So enjoy PJ 20.
Yeah, it's not like they lost interest in attacking the West and now that Osama is dead they are going to get off their butts and do it finally. They've been trying, but have been foiled, or just didn't pull it off for whatever reason. They didn't just pull off 9/11, then jump down a hole only to come back out now. If they had the means to pull off a major attack last week, or last year, they would have done it. They just launched their latest offensive a week ago, and it mainly seems to be children suicide bombers. While still horrific, doesn't pose a serious threat to your average citizen outside of the Middle East. These people want to destroy a lot of Western countries, and Osama's death does not make them any more capable, just more angry. If some big attack happens now, chances are it was probably in the works before Osama was killed. They weren't looking for an excuse, but they may use it as a battle cry now.
"See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
yeah guys...i get you ...you know,my country and me personally,belong to what we say west world...
those muslims has one goal only..to make us feel fear..and this attack at the towers did it...
i still remember the ccn live(all greeks channels was live with cnn)
America under attack..and all people around me was telling me the same..if this empire,called USA cant protect their home how the hell we can do it being so small.....
they put this fear inside us...and with this fucker dead ,i feel more to come..like given one more reason for attack to west civilaizations..
Ps: to Dimitris: do not be afraid, there is no more danger than yesterday for a terrorist attack. There will probably be reprisals, but not on the scale you are thinking of (i think at least). I think that it will be more directed towards American embassies. If al Queada was planning something big, they don't need Osama as an excuse, do they? So enjoy PJ 20.
true,but this today put again the fear in my head that i almost forgot
That I can understand (I just read your statement re. Madrid), in the same way I can understand the "relief" and feelings of justice that some people express here. Trauma is terrible. Just keep relevating and keep thinking: that *you* at least go to PJ20!
Ps: to Dimitris: do not be afraid, there is no more danger than yesterday for a terrorist attack. There will probably be reprisals, but not on the scale you are thinking of (i think at least). I think that it will be more directed towards American embassies. If al Queada was planning something big, they don't need Osama as an excuse, do they? So enjoy PJ 20.
Yeah, it's not like they lost interest in attacking the West and now that Osama is dead they are going to get off their butts and do it finally. They've been trying, but have been foiled, or just didn't pull it off for whatever reason. They didn't just pull off 9/11, then jump down a hole only to come back out now. If they had the means to pull off a major attack last week, or last year, they would have done it. They just launched their latest offensive a week ago, and it mainly seems to be children suicide bombers. While still horrific, doesn't pose a serious threat to your average citizen outside of the Middle East. These people want to destroy a lot of Western countries, and Osama's death does not make them any more capable, just more angry. If some big attack happens now, chances are it was probably in the works before Osama was killed. They weren't looking for an excuse, but they may use it as a battle cry now.
Well, that is the issue, isn't it. It is an endless battle, because it is religious / ideology based and not based on individuals or persons (or even countries). That is what makes this war intangible (excuse my spelling). If al Queada dissapears, there will be another organization filling the void. If the core issues of this war (inequality, poverty, repression - the breeding ground of terrorism) on a global scale is not addressed it will continu, continu and continu...
That I can understand (I just read your statement re. Madrid), in the same way I can understand the "relief" and feelings of justice that some people express here. Trauma is terrible. Just keep relevating and keep thinking: that *you* at least go to PJ20!
you know..most of the people here understand,,even see things in cold blood or with emotion..
and people post their opinion,and its great threads to read,,and here and the thread in moving train forum..
as Get_right said is a sympolic win...
when this murdeder was going to die or get caught.we thought that will be safer..damn it..suppose to be atleast!!!
but it isnt.. :(
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
to those who have responded to my comments. You do bring good points, but that being said, my comments weren't to squash your arguments concerning the safety of the world, It was to squash the argument posed earlier in this thread (mainly directed at that sweden guy) that it was wrong for us to rejoice the way we did. he made it seem like we were the bad guys for wishing a mass murderer dead and celebrating our wish being fulfilled. it was also squashing the argument that "nothing has changed", when in fact a lot has changed in American sentiment. People feel closure, as people felt closure on V-J Day (which was why i referenced Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima/Nagasaki, it was to the fact the American people felt closure, not to compare the degree of horror the events have caused) that being said
i will squash the safety argument, while yes there is a slightly heightened danger when it comes to flying and what not, but the fact of the matter is, Bin Laden was a symbol for Al-Qaida and other terrorist networks, he was a successful leader of them. any successor to follow is extremely weak compared to him and though it may not happen right away, i feel that Al-Qaida will crumble.
That I can understand (I just read your statement re. Madrid), in the same way I can understand the "relief" and feelings of justice that some people express here. Trauma is terrible. Just keep relevating and keep thinking: that *you* at least go to PJ20!
you know..most of the people here understand,,even see things in cold blood or with emotion..
and people post their opinion,and its great threads to read,,and here and the thread in moving train forum..
as Get_right said is a sympolic win...
when this murdeder was going to die or get caught.we thought that will be safer..damn it..suppose to be atleast!!!
but it isnt.. :(
Dimitris, do not live in fear. You should not let things you have no control over affect the way you live. I know it can be scary but there is really nothing us "regular" people can do.
"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."
-Mark Twain
I love it. This sums up how I feel.
It does, however, make me uncomfortable to see the people partying in the streets celebrating bin ladens death.
I am celebrating in my mind. No need to flaunt it and ruffle more feathers.
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It is embarrassing. Maybe not to everyone, but it's still embarrassing.
did he really kick the door ?
Yeah man. You missed it. Big sole mark on that door now.
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:wave:
We won't miss you.
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Yea, it was crazy. He is so bad ass.
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but really jose,i feel more unsafe..i thought if this murderer was dead ill feel safer..but i think those muslims,jihad or whatever will try to make feel more fear in the future..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
people outside of the impacted zones will never fully understand ....they may understand but the shit i saw in front of my face and the pain i go through can only be understood if you were directly involved
yes everyone all over should be worried ....but living in ny takes it to a whole new level
as i look out my work window i see helicopters hovering over the brooklyn bridge to my right
2 new towers being built to my left
so fucked up
you should feel unsafe
i do....i will never let them interupt my life...but i am always on my toes
airports will never be fun again as long as we live///// its as simple as that
"i will have to disagree with you on that (in reference to the fact you don't think things will change). We can finally have closure on this chapter in American History. Though it's been a decade, 9/11 seems like yesterday. 9/11 has been relevant throughout this time, and now, as Khalid Sheik Muhammad is being put to trial, and as these wars are (hopefully) dying down. We can now look at 9/11 not as a current event but as an historical event like how we look at something like pearl harbor today. and with this new closure comes a new sentiment in the American people where we can finally go back to some sense of the American ways of life prior to 9/11."
after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we finally looked passed pearl harbor as a current and relevant event. America had closure after those bombings (whether one agrees with the bombings or not) and after Japan surrendered America rejoiced despite how inhumane those bombings were, because that chapter of American and world history was finally finished.
look, the way we Americans are acting today and how we acted last night is a mere act of human nature. The same way terrorists celebrated in the streets in the middle east. the same way any country in our position would rejoice. even Sweden. Face it, Sweden, Greece, [insert your country here], if it was your country, you and everyone else would act the same exact way as we American's did. It's human nature. and that's a fact.
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But as far as world safety goes, its only one man in a network of thousands. I have no doubt in my mind that there are successors in waiting as well extensive plans contemplating Obama's demise.
Now about those gas prices Mr. President.........................
actually the news of bin laden's death made the price of oil drop a few bucks...but i'm sure it'll climb back up.
anybody else think last night was so surreal when you were watching the news? it was like I went back to 9/11/01...all of the same feelings and emotions came back. it was crazy. i actually started to cry.
Hamas = not al Qaeda. They may be stating the above, but it has more to do with diminishing the influence of al Queda in Palestinian areas. (In other words; you should interpret the statement within the context of domestic politics.) I am not sure if your aiming at this, but I think it is important to clarify.
Even though there will probably be reprisals, I think that al Qaeda over the years has weakened and this is to a high degree a symbolic blow to this terrorist organization.
Same here. After all this time I never really thought that we would get to the point where something like this would happen. I'm not a political person at all, I don't follow any of it. But I laid in bed and was proud last night. No, this doesn't mean peace on earth, it doesn't mean that we're going to stop having crazy airport security, it really doesn't change anything in the big picture. But, we said we were going to find and kill this dude almost 10 years and and it finally happened. Yes, there may be some negative outcomes from it but it's something that I feel, and a lot of others of course, needed to be done.
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I hear you bro they will retaliate believe that ....
Dear PJ Fan est. 1990,
I am not American, but I can understand the emotional reaction. What I do want to remind you of though is that most countries know how it is to be attacked on national soil; so we may not have experienced 9/11 directly, I think - due to our national histories - we can identify and still make sound statements. (Don't you?) Besides, there were also terrorist attacks (organized by al Queada) in Europe.
In short: no need to silence us.
That all said: this is in no way btw comparable to Hiroshima and Nagasaki; it is a complete different kind of war on a complete different scale (with complete different consequences). And compared to Japan; al Queada hasn't surrendered yet. So even though I get the jest of your statement, the comparison goes somewhat limp.
Ps: to Dimitris: do not be afraid, there is no more danger than yesterday for a terrorist attack. There will probably be reprisals, but not on the scale you are thinking of (i think at least). I think that it will be more directed towards American embassies. If al Queada was planning something big, they don't need Osama as an excuse. So enjoy PJ 20.
those muslims has one goal only..to make us feel fear..and this attack at the towers did it...
i still remember the ccn live(all greeks channels was live with cnn)
America under attack..and all people around me was telling me the same..if this empire,called USA cant protect their home how the hell we can do it being so small.....
they put this fear inside us...and with this fucker dead ,i feel more to come..like given one more reason for attack to west civilaizations..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Ps: to Dimitris: do not be afraid, there is no more danger than yesterday for a terrorist attack. There will probably be reprisals, but not on the scale you are thinking of (i think at least). I think that it will be more directed towards American embassies. If al Queada was planning something big, they don't need Osama as an excuse, do they? So enjoy PJ 20.
191 people die..Spain become a target cos Athar the prime minister deside to sent troups to Iraq to join usa
i saw only one thing at the eyes of spanish people..horor-fear.....undersand why Americans celebrate today..its normal...but the foreigners here has something u dont have right now..they imagive the next day..and it isnt safer....and most of our counties..like Sweden and Greece are ALLIES..with USA...
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Yeah, it's not like they lost interest in attacking the West and now that Osama is dead they are going to get off their butts and do it finally. They've been trying, but have been foiled, or just didn't pull it off for whatever reason. They didn't just pull off 9/11, then jump down a hole only to come back out now. If they had the means to pull off a major attack last week, or last year, they would have done it. They just launched their latest offensive a week ago, and it mainly seems to be children suicide bombers. While still horrific, doesn't pose a serious threat to your average citizen outside of the Middle East. These people want to destroy a lot of Western countries, and Osama's death does not make them any more capable, just more angry. If some big attack happens now, chances are it was probably in the works before Osama was killed. They weren't looking for an excuse, but they may use it as a battle cry now.
-Mark Twain
That I can understand (I just read your statement re. Madrid), in the same way I can understand the "relief" and feelings of justice that some people express here. Trauma is terrible. Just keep relevating and keep thinking: that *you* at least go to PJ20!
Well, that is the issue, isn't it. It is an endless battle, because it is religious / ideology based and not based on individuals or persons (or even countries). That is what makes this war intangible (excuse my spelling). If al Queada dissapears, there will be another organization filling the void. If the core issues of this war (inequality, poverty, repression - the breeding ground of terrorism) on a global scale is not addressed it will continu, continu and continu...
and people post their opinion,and its great threads to read,,and here and the thread in moving train forum..
as Get_right said is a sympolic win...
when this murdeder was going to die or get caught.we thought that will be safer..damn it..suppose to be atleast!!!
but it isnt.. :(
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
i will squash the safety argument, while yes there is a slightly heightened danger when it comes to flying and what not, but the fact of the matter is, Bin Laden was a symbol for Al-Qaida and other terrorist networks, he was a successful leader of them. any successor to follow is extremely weak compared to him and though it may not happen right away, i feel that Al-Qaida will crumble.
Dimitris, do not live in fear. You should not let things you have no control over affect the way you live. I know it can be scary but there is really nothing us "regular" people can do.
I love it. This sums up how I feel.
It does, however, make me uncomfortable to see the people partying in the streets celebrating bin ladens death.
I am celebrating in my mind. No need to flaunt it and ruffle more feathers.