Osama Bin Laden Is DEAD!

awesomerooster

Rossum20 wrote:

Clearly you have to be American to understand this :roll:

Loss is loss, death is death, regardless of one's side. Suffering is indiscriminate. Fanaticism is clearly the problem. That's what bred the likes of Bin Laden, etc. Hopefully, people will not go overboard...

dimitrispearljam

eddiefan1992 wrote:

seriously,my opinion doesnt matter..even that wasnt osama but an inside job? so what?whats the result?
Goverments and media has all the power to make you to believe what ever they want.who in the first place train him and give him money?.there was a war in Iraq cos of some guns that never was there....its really sad that only a few has the power of the planet and do what ever the fuck they want..believe me nothing is safer after this murderer death and the gus prices not going down..etc

MEDIA..keyword there, controls what we believe. GOVERNMENT...controls what we hear. Iraq War...a war over obtaining oil there. Just My opinions. As an American citizen and a military spouse, do I agree with the war? No. Do I trust our government? Hell no. Do I trust the media? Even less. Am I glad that Obama is dead? Absolutely. We (including all Allies at war with the US) have lost thousands of military men and women because some guy thought it'd be a good idea to invade Iraq on unfounded claims. The real threat was hiding out in caves, yet our concentration was over a man that had nothing except a total lack of respect for the human race. Meanwhile, Osama had almost 10 years AFTER the attacks on the World Trade Center to build up a powerful and rich terror group who will now carry on Osama's mission of obliterating any culture who does not share their ideas. Believe me, this shit is not over. I'm glad that all the families of all the soldiers lost in Afghanistan can rest a little easier knowing now that they're son, daughter, husband, wife, mother, father died for a reason.

i wish your man be always safe...cos yes this isnt over..i wish that after this murderer death all will be better.but..
..and really all those people celebrating tonight i get them..they have to put the pain out of loosing their lovings..and feel relief and feel justice...but believe me..cant feel safer......
those crazy jihad people dont have jobs to do,except make you feel unsafe...

eddiefan1992

dimitrispearljam wrote:

eddiefan1992 wrote:

seriously,my opinion doesnt matter..even that wasnt osama but an inside job? so what?whats the result?
Goverments and media has all the power to make you to believe what ever they want.who in the first place train him and give him money?.there was a war in Iraq cos of some guns that never was there....its really sad that only a few has the power of the planet and do what ever the fuck they want..believe me nothing is safer after this murderer death and the gus prices not going down..etc

MEDIA..keyword there, controls what we believe. GOVERNMENT...controls what we hear. Iraq War...a war over obtaining oil there. Just My opinions. As an American citizen and a military spouse, do I agree with the war? No. Do I trust our government? Hell no. Do I trust the media? Even less. Am I glad that Obama is dead? Absolutely. We (including all Allies at war with the US) have lost thousands of military men and women because some guy thought it'd be a good idea to invade Iraq on unfounded claims. The real threat was hiding out in caves, yet our concentration was over a man that had nothing except a total lack of respect for the human race. Meanwhile, Osama had almost 10 years AFTER the attacks on the World Trade Center to build up a powerful and rich terror group who will now carry on Osama's mission of obliterating any culture who does not share their ideas. Believe me, this shit is not over. I'm glad that all the families of all the soldiers lost in Afghanistan can rest a little easier knowing now that they're son, daughter, husband, wife, mother, father died for a reason.

i wish your man be always safe...cos yes this isnt over..i wish that after this murderer death all will be better.but..
..and really all those people celebrating tonight i get them..they have to put the pain out of loosing their lovings..and feel relief and feel justice...but believe me..cant feel safer......
those crazy jihad people dont have jobs to do,except make you feel unsafe...

Anyone who feels safer tonight due to Osama's death is an absolute idiot. :?

BLACK35

Glad they finally got the BASTARD

threefish10

awesomerooster wrote:

Rossum20 wrote:

Clearly you have to be American to understand this :roll:

Loss is loss, death is death, regardless of one's side. Suffering is indiscriminate. Fanaticism is clearly the problem. That's what bred the likes of Bin Laden, etc. Hopefully, people will not go overboard...

Sadly it wasn't just Americans lost in the 9/11 attacks, or in the war that followed. We lost 9 Aussies that day, and even though we are a world away we all saw the pictures and felt the horror. I think I was awake for 3 days glued to the t.v. And in the following war we have lost almost 30 Aussie soliders. I know this pales in comparison to the number of American lost and the destruction on American soil. But his actions on that day have effected more then just Americans.

Rossum20

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Rossum20 wrote:

I don't buy the whole escalation argument in this case. Al Qaeda's plan has never changed...they are a minority militant group of terrorists whose plan is simply this: Destroy the West.

Have they been on a 10 year holiday? Have they been waiting for Bin Laden to die so they use him as a martyr?

Whether we sit idly by or we get the guy, Al-Qaeda still has their #1 goal of destroying the west and they are putting 100% of their efforts towards this goal. Always have, always will.


I'll have to say it's a lot easier to have the majority of your population agreeing on things when your population is 9 million...less than half of the population of the NYC metro area.

No one is declaring that terrorism has been defeated...this symbolizes everything that America and it's citizens went through during that time and the man who helped orchestrate it. A MASS MURDERER.


Excuse us while we take a little pleasure in ridding the world of someone who doesn't deserve to share the same air as the rest of us.

Clearly you have to be American to understand this :roll:

you are right in all..i complitly understand Americans feel relief after this asshole death..but if u put things down and think..Nothing has changed...

Maybe, maybe not.

I hear talk about justice and then we talk about how going after those who are guilty of some of the most heinous crimes isn't the right thing to do? How is that justice? As long as you do it from far off lands, you can get away with it?

Hey, I'm a firm believer in "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind", but is this the example for that? I think the injustice is when we talk about Iraq...and even Afghanistan. We went in there on false pretenses. What we did yesterday in Pakistan is what our response to 9/11 should have been all along. Trying to get cooperation from the local governments any way you can and then organize small tactical teams to deal with the Al-Qaeda threats. They are a minority group that is mixed in with a larger majority who doesn't want to be affiliated with them. However in the process of going to war, you end up doing more harm than good because of different ideals and civilian causalities.

When it becomes a fight in the street on a large scale, it becomes a near impossibility to differentiate between friend or foe; it's a disaster. Declaring war against minority militant groups is a zero sum game. The only way to have any success is with small tactical teams to deal with them.


The Iraq War has done 1,000,000 times more "escalation damage" than Osama Bin Laden's death. It's just not in any of our backyards so we don't see it.

JimNastics

Hmmm, I wonder if Islamic jihadists around the world will be celebrating that Bin Laden has finally achieved matyrdom, and is now living in paradise? Yanks may say he's "got what he deserved"... jihadists will be saying exactly the same. The footage of idiotic, ignorant Americans dancing in the street chanting "USA! USA!" made me feel nearly as sick as whatching 9/11 unfold live on TV.

This is no victory, if there is no loser.

Rossum20

threefish10 wrote:

awesomerooster wrote:

Rossum20 wrote:

Clearly you have to be American to understand this :roll:

Loss is loss, death is death, regardless of one's side. Suffering is indiscriminate. Fanaticism is clearly the problem. That's what bred the likes of Bin Laden, etc. Hopefully, people will not go overboard...

Sadly it wasn't just Americans lost in the 9/11 attacks, or in the war that followed. We lost 9 Aussies that day, and even though we are a world away we all saw the pictures and felt the horror. I think I was awake for 3 days glued to the t.v. And in the following war we have lost almost 30 Aussie soliders. I know this pales in comparison to the number of American lost and the destruction on American soil. But his actions on that day have effected more then just Americans.

I was being sarcastic. It was a crime against humanity...people from all faiths and nationalities perished in 9/11...ironically, even Muslims.

dimitrispearljam

Rossum20 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Rossum20 wrote:

I don't buy the whole escalation argument in this case. Al Qaeda's plan has never changed...they are a minority militant group of terrorists whose plan is simply this: Destroy the West.

Have they been on a 10 year holiday? Have they been waiting for Bin Laden to die so they use him as a martyr?

Whether we sit idly by or we get the guy, Al-Qaeda still has their #1 goal of destroying the west and they are putting 100% of their efforts towards this goal. Always have, always will.


I'll have to say it's a lot easier to have the majority of your population agreeing on things when your population is 9 million...less than half of the population of the NYC metro area.

No one is declaring that terrorism has been defeated...this symbolizes everything that America and it's citizens went through during that time and the man who helped orchestrate it. A MASS MURDERER.


Excuse us while we take a little pleasure in ridding the world of someone who doesn't deserve to share the same air as the rest of us.

Clearly you have to be American to understand this :roll:

you are right in all..i complitly understand Americans feel relief after this asshole death..but if u put things down and think..Nothing has changed...

Maybe, maybe not.

I hear talk about justice and then we talk about how going after those who are guilty of some of the most heinous crimes isn't the right thing to do? How is that justice? As long as you do it from far off lands, you can get away with it?

Hey, I'm a firm believer in "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind", but is this the example for that? I think the injustice is when we talk about Iraq...and even Afghanistan. We went in there on false pretenses. What we did yesterday in Pakistan is what our response to 9/11 should have been all along. Trying to get cooperation from the local governments any way you can and then organize small tactical teams to deal with the Al-Qaeda threats. They are a minority group that is mixed in with a larger majority who doesn't want to be affiliated with them. However in the process of going to war, you end up doing more harm than good because of different ideals and civilian causalities.

When it becomes a fight in the street on a large scale, it becomes a near impossibility to differentiate between friend or foe; it's a disaster. Declaring war against minority militant groups is a zero sum game. The only way to have any success is with small tactical teams to deal with them.


The Iraq War has done 1,000,000 times more "escalation damage" than Osama Bin Laden's death. It's just not in any of our backyards so we don't see it.

believe me, will be a new name in the agenta in next years to find and kill,and make wars in his name..
the only victims here are the ones die in Iraq and New York..they didnt do anything wrong..]
they was at their houses or working on those 2 towers..so sad..

Mikee J

JimNastics wrote:

Hmmm, I wonder if Islamic jihadists around the world will be celebrating that Bin Laden has finally achieved matyrdom, and is now living in paradise? Yanks may say he's "got what he deserved"... jihadists will be saying exactly the same. The footage of idiotic, ignorant Americans dancing in the street chanting "USA! USA!" made me feel nearly as sick as whatching 9/11 unfold live on TV.

This is no victory, if there is no loser.

As much as I am glad he has gone, I just cant help but agree with this. I see it as no different to mobs of people in the streets of a middle eastern country burning a US or UK flag.

dimitrispearljam

Rossum20 wrote:

It was a crime against humanity...people from all faiths and nationalities perished in 9/11...ironically, even Muslims.

true..

Mikee J

Taliban have already vowed to revenge his death....

Mikee J

Conspiracy theories starting about OBL being "buried at sea"... no body no proof.

threefish10

Mikee J wrote:

Conspiracy theories starting about OBL being "buried at sea"... no body no proof.

Surely if they have dumped him at sea already, they have taken all the info they need to prove it. Photos, blood/dna, dental records??? And what not.

If they have already dumped him that is.

Sprunkn7

Could you imagine Trump coming on TV and giving us the news??

Mikee J wrote:

Conspiracy theories starting about OBL being "buried at sea"... no body no proof.

I'm sure they took pictures and all that gruesome crap.

Mikee J

You would think so.... I haven't seen proof yet.. not that I don't believe it though.

Looks like the reprisals will happen.. Hamas now condemning it as the "assassination of a holy warrior".... this is not good for the middle east conflict and thus world peace.

Mikee J

Sprunkn7 wrote:

Could you imagine Trump coming on TV and giving us the news??

I just laughed out loud!

threefish10

Sprunkn7 wrote:

Could you imagine Trump coming on TV and giving us the news??

Osama Bin Laden, you're FIRED!

neilybabes86

its easy to see who lost friends and loved ones and who didn't

or lived within a few blocks of the trade center

curmudgeoness

Sprunkn7 wrote:

Mikee J wrote:

Conspiracy theories starting about OBL being "buried at sea"... no body no proof.

I'm sure they took pictures and all that gruesome crap.

I saw a photo earlier; it had not been verified as authentic, but photos already are on-line. Disclaimer, as I am not someone who goes around looking for such evidence: Andrew Sullivan posted a link to the photo early this morning as part of his coverage, without warning/explanation of what the link contained.