BIN LADEN IS DEAD

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  • AELARA
    AELARA Posts: 803
    If anyone really believes that terrorism is over because Osama Bin Laden is dead then please note me because I really need some good laugh...
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  • yahamita
    yahamita Posts: 1,514
    You just gotta love the whole media / White House circus over the Osama Bin Laden announcements. Remember when we were told we had to go after these dangerous terrorists so we could be safer? Remember when we were told that the terror alerts had to be put on orange and red because Bin Laden was "living in a cave" and plotting to bomb us?

    Well now that the White House insists they've killed Bin Laden, where's the celebration of freedom and safety? Why aren't we firing the TSA and reversing the Patriot Act? Isn't the danger now over? Can we bring bottled water back on airplanes again?

    Instead, the government now says that killing Osama Bin Laden makes America MORE dangerous because his cohorts might seek "revenge."

    Huh? Wait a sec... so killing Bin Laden makes America less safe? Wasn't the entire sales job on this supposed to be that killing Bin Laden would make us more safe?

    Check out the logic here: George W. Bush said if we don't kill Bin Laden, we won't be safe. Obama says now that we DID kill Bin Laden, things are even less safe. So apparently, according to the U.S. government, killing them or not killing produces exactly the same result. We're all in danger, they insist, no matter who they kill.

    Do you see the total perpetual war con job America has been sold over the years, spanning multiple presidents? There are no conditions under which we can go back to being "safe and secure," you see. There is no list of outlaws that can be taken out so that the government announces "There, now we're safe. All the bad guys are gone." Nope, instead we get this perpetual war setup that keeps the munitions manufacturers rolling in dough while our soldiers keep coming home in body bags. It is a complete con job, and it's all being used to strip away our constitutional rights and freedoms, too.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13274176

    'Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was unarmed when he was killed by US troops on Sunday after resisting capture, the White House has said.'
  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    Earlier, we were told that if they could have captured bin Laden rather than kill him, they would have.
    Now they tell us he was unarmed.

    That's a pretty disturbing revelation, if you ask me.
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  • dimitrispearljam
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    AELARA wrote:
    If anyone really believes that terrorism is over because Osama Bin Laden is dead then please note me because I really need some good laugh...
    all Greeks believe the same,,i try to tell it 2 days now..
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    leave it to the good folks on the train to make the US the bad guy here...freakin amazing :yawn:
    anybody need a little cheese with that whine. :lol:

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    We're all just sitting around rooting and praising terrorists..you're on the case Sherlock. :roll:
    Godfather. wrote:
    leave it to the good folks on the train to make the US the bad guy here...freakin amazing :yawn:
    anybody need a little cheese with that whine. :lol:

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  • Digital Twilight
    Digital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    Earlier, we were told that if they could have captured bin Laden rather than kill him, they would have.
    Now they tell us he was unarmed.

    That's a pretty disturbing revelation, if you ask me.

    You can resist without being armed. I think I just read that somewhere, I'll try and dig it up.

    Edit:

    Bin Laden was unarmed when he was shot by US special forces, Jay Carney, a White House spokesman, has told a press briefing.

    "Resistance does not require a firearm," said Carney.
  • JonnyPistachio
    JonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    AELARA wrote:
    If anyone really believes that terrorism is over because Osama Bin Laden is dead then please note me because I really need some good laugh...

    You can read through 34 pages and see that it hasnt been said yet, and I doubt it ever will.

    Yahamita, the media circus is an immediate reaction. And I honestly dont think the govt would've went after him had they thought the final result would be long term declines in safety. I believe they are saying that immediate retaliation is possible. Do you not think that al qaeda is weaker without bin laden?
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    AELARA wrote:
    If anyone really believes that terrorism is over because Osama Bin Laden is dead then please note me because I really need some good laugh...
    i haven't seen or heard anyone say this. quite the opposite.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    Maybe not praising terrorists, but there are a few people that would rather have the American populace feel sorry for ourselves and focus on all the bad things our government has done instead of feeling good about the capture and death of the most wanted man in the world.

    I'll worry about the pity party next week. For the next few days, I will enjoy the fact that Bin Ladin sleeps with the fish.
    FiveB247x wrote:
    We're all just sitting around rooting and praising terrorists..you're on the case Sherlock. :roll:
    Godfather. wrote:
    leave it to the good folks on the train to make the US the bad guy here...freakin amazing :yawn:
    anybody need a little cheese with that whine. :lol:

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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    edited May 2011
    Well perhaps the difference between good and bad is humility in the signs of victory (if we can call this as such). Also and more importantly, perhaps if you lost a loved one from 9-11, this provides some closure, but other than that, I do not understand how anyone would proclaim joy, excitement or any type of celebration from such an act. Yeah we got rid of an evil guy - it doesn't change anything in terms of security or our personal lives or even in the abstract (we're not sending our troops home from anywhere). So what exactly are we celebrating? It reminds me of Chris Rock's joke about black people celebrating the OJ court case...everyone's ecstatic we won.. but what did we win exactly? And perhaps for a bit of a moral compass, I'd love to hear from some families who lost loved one's in the other operations not directly related to our hunt for Osama and see what they say. Was it worth it to them? I'd guess they'd have a very different answer. Anyways, if we're seeking for a moral basis (whether good or bad), I wouldn't go basing anything on the American populace or government - we're a screwed up and mixed up bunch to put it politely.

    Jason P wrote:
    Maybe not praising terrorists, but there are a few people that would rather have the American populace feel sorry for ourselves and focus on all the bad things our government has done instead of feeling good about the capture and death of the most wanted man in the world.

    I'll worry about the pity party next week. For the next few days, I will enjoy the fact that Bin Ladin sleeps with the fish.
    FiveB247x wrote:
    We're all just sitting around rooting and praising terrorists..you're on the case Sherlock. :roll:
    Post edited by FiveB247x on
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    FiveB247x wrote:
    We're all just sitting around rooting and praising terrorists..you're on the case Sherlock. :roll:
    Godfather. wrote:
    leave it to the good folks on the train to make the US the bad guy here...freakin amazing :yawn:
    anybody need a little cheese with that whine. :lol:

    Godfather.

    thats Mr.Sherlock to you. :lol:
    I was just waiting for one of the purest of heart and soul to ask "why didn't usama get a fair trial ?"
    I mean after all.. all he did was declare war on the USA AND KILL THOUSANDS OF FATHERS MOTHERS SONS AND DAUGHTERS. :?

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  • wolfamongwolves
    wolfamongwolves Posts: 2,414
    Earlier, we were told that if they could have captured bin Laden rather than kill him, they would have.
    Now they tell us he was unarmed.

    That's a pretty disturbing revelation, if you ask me.

    You can resist without being armed. I think I just read that somewhere, I'll try and dig it up.

    Edit:

    Bin Laden was unarmed when he was shot by US special forces, Jay Carney, a White House spokesman, has told a press briefing.

    "Resistance does not require a firearm," said Carney.

    Hm... That's true. Thanks for finding that. There are mutterings about the legality of the killing, and obviously shooting an unarmed man carries the possibility of being designated an extrajudicial execution.
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Well I'm you're huckleberry.

    Albeit not true in practice, if we believe in democracy and rule of law, we would hope to have such a trial in which justice is served and perhaps we even learn something from it. IMAGINE THAT!

    But in our screwed up nation, "justice" was served via death.

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
    Godfather. wrote:
    FiveB247x wrote:
    We're all just sitting around rooting and praising terrorists..you're on the case Sherlock. :roll:
    Godfather. wrote:
    leave it to the good folks on the train to make the US the bad guy here...freakin amazing :yawn:
    anybody need a little cheese with that whine. :lol:

    Godfather.

    thats Mr.Sherlock to you. :lol:
    I was just waiting for one of the purest of heart and soul to ask "why didn't usama get a fair trial ?"
    I mean after all.. all he did was declare war on the USA AND KILL THOUSANDS OF FATHERS MOTHERS SONS AND DAUGHTERS. :?

    Godfather.
    CONservative governMENt

    Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
  • AELARA
    AELARA Posts: 803
    edited May 2011
    AELARA wrote:
    If anyone really believes that terrorism is over because Osama Bin Laden is dead then please note me because I really need some good laugh...

    You can read through 34 pages and see that it hasnt been said yet, and I doubt it ever will.

    Yahamita, the media circus is an immediate reaction. And I honestly dont think the govt would've went after him had they thought the final result would be long term declines in safety. I believe they are saying that immediate retaliation is possible. Do you not think that al qaeda is weaker without bin laden?

    Truth is I haven't read the whole 34 pages. I just made a comment on the fact of Bin Laden's death because I just find a little bit useless(if not silly) all these public celebrations for his death. I mean OK, I don't feel sorry for him either, but go to Times square to celebrate it?? I don't get it.. I really do not believe al qaeda is weaker now. A little shocked maybe but not weaker. On the contrary it may attract even more fanatics.
    Post edited by AELARA on
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    edited May 2011
    yahamita wrote:
    You just gotta love the whole media / White House circus over the Osama Bin Laden announcements. Remember when we were told we had to go after these dangerous terrorists so we could be safer? Remember when we were told that the terror alerts had to be put on orange and red because Bin Laden was "living in a cave" and plotting to bomb us?

    Well now that the White House insists they've killed Bin Laden, where's the celebration of freedom and safety? Why aren't we firing the TSA and reversing the Patriot Act? Isn't the danger now over? Can we bring bottled water back on airplanes again?

    Instead, the government now says that killing Osama Bin Laden makes America MORE dangerous because his cohorts might seek "revenge."

    Huh? Wait a sec... so killing Bin Laden makes America less safe? Wasn't the entire sales job on this supposed to be that killing Bin Laden would make us more safe?

    Check out the logic here: George W. Bush said if we don't kill Bin Laden, we won't be safe. Obama says now that we DID kill Bin Laden, things are even less safe. So apparently, according to the U.S. government, killing them or not killing produces exactly the same result. We're all in danger, they insist, no matter who they kill.

    Do you see the total perpetual war con job America has been sold over the years, spanning multiple presidents? There are no conditions under which we can go back to being "safe and secure," you see. There is no list of outlaws that can be taken out so that the government announces "There, now we're safe. All the bad guys are gone." Nope, instead we get this perpetual war setup that keeps the munitions manufacturers rolling in dough while our soldiers keep coming home in body bags. It is a complete con job, and it's all being used to strip away our constitutional rights and freedoms, too.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/032258_econo ... _2012.html

    There is no logic other than there's only one agenda in the White House: inducing and maintaining fear into the populace.
    Post edited by Jeanwah on
  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    navy seals are the SHIT
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    Earlier, we were told that if they could have captured bin Laden rather than kill him, they would have.
    Now they tell us he was unarmed.

    That's a pretty disturbing revelation, if you ask me.

    They first painted the picture like it was some fierce firefight and Bin Laden went down in flames. Now it's more like Bin Laden had no weapon was with his wife and 12 year old kid in bed :lol: How did he resist arrest? No sure, maybe tried to wrestle 8 navy seals? So they had to shoot him once in the head and once in the chest to make sure he's dead. One thing that seems to be clear is they did not want him alive and did not want him on trial in front of the world.

    In reality, we have no idea what really happened regarding this op. We need to wait until the video is leaked/released. But they will probably continue to release bits of info and clips of the video first to make us immune to it. So it wont be so shocking for the masses when the full thing is aired. Like now they tell us that he was without arms at the time, next they will tell us that he was cooking pancakes at the time, Then something else, until we already have an idea of the video and enough time has gone by that we are worried about something else.

    So all anyone can do, is put all the info on the table. Spread it all out, leave our own notions behind and view each bit of news/info as they come. Then piece things together.

    We all want the truth, even if it may be hard for us. The truth is the only thing that matters.

    This Matrix of a world we live in dislikes two things, People who speak their minds and people who seek the truth, when you put those two traits together, you have an enemy/weapon against the state/Machine/Matrix.....You you put those two traits together you have a Free Mind, and no bigger threat exists to America than a mind that is no longer in the darkness of ignorance.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Jason P wrote:
    Maybe not praising terrorists, but there are a few people that would rather have the American populace feel sorry for ourselves and focus on all the bad things our government has done instead of feeling good about the capture and death of the most wanted man in the world.

    I'll worry about the pity party next week. For the next few days, I will enjoy the fact that Bin Ladin sleeps with the fish.
    FiveB247x wrote:
    We're all just sitting around rooting and praising terrorists..you're on the case Sherlock. :roll:
    Godfather. wrote:
    leave it to the good folks on the train to make the US the bad guy here...freakin amazing :yawn:
    anybody need a little cheese with that whine. :lol:

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