i was looking for a pic of someone slamming a domino down onto a table with a caption of "DOMINO MOTHERF@CKER!!" to put with my last post but could not find one....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
It's about time. Why didn't they do this four years ago? Why let conspiracy theorist ramble on and on?
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I think the damage is already done and this won't change most public opinion to those that doubt his citizenship. There will still be questions on the legitimacy of the document and theories on that it was forged. Why did team Obama let this percolate for so long? Very dumb to wait so long.
Yeah, it could have been done years ago, but where does this stand in the list of priorities on Obama's plate? Probably at the bottom. How ridiculous that citizens focus on this, rather on bigger issues.
Beyond the obvious fact that he is beyond insane, what about the setup of the primary process makes him think he has a shot in hell. Is he going to fly his personal helicopter to a BBQ event in Iowa? Is he going to walk the streets of New Hampshire in sub-zero temperatures knocking on doors? Does he think Joe Voter is going to relate to a man with a suit on that costs more than half of a years mortgage payments?
i was looking for a pic of someone slamming a domino down onto a table with a caption of "DOMINO MOTHERF@CKER!!" to put with my last post but could not find one....
i was looking for a pic of someone slamming a domino down onto a table with a caption of "DOMINO MOTHERF@CKER!!" to put with my last post but could not find one....
i was looking for a pic of someone slamming a domino down onto a table with a caption of "DOMINO MOTHERF@CKER!!" to put with my last post but could not find one....
i was looking for a pic of someone slamming a domino down onto a table with a caption of "DOMINO MOTHERF@CKER!!" to put with my last post but could not find one....
TRUMP on MSNBC JUST NOW: "I have just accomplished something nobody else has been able to accomplish." (He portrayed himself as relieved that he can move onto other issues and press will stop talking about it.
"I am really honored ot have played such a big role in hopefully, hopefully getting rid of this issue. Now. we have to look at it. is it real? Is it proper? What's on it? Hopefully it checks out properly."
So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
TRUMP on MSNBC JUST NOW: "I have just accomplished something nobody else has been able to accomplish." (He portrayed himself as relieved that he can move onto other issues and press will stop talking about it.
"I am really honored ot have played such a big role in hopefully, hopefully getting rid of this issue. Now. we have to look at it. is it real? Is it proper? What's on it? Hopefully it checks out properly."
I'm saving that URL for every PJ20 and Alpine thread
Our government should be run more like a business. If we didn't have wealth as a country, we probably wouldn't enjoy the freedom to discuss who our next leader should be anyway.
Capitalist.
In what kind of ways should it be run more like a business?
How about being lean and efficient?
How about making the tax code more user friendly?
How about making people work for their welfare checks? Last time I checked there was plenty of work to be done cleaning roadways, beaches, parks etc.
Business being lean and efficient is a myth. Businesses are user friendly? I get through my taxes faster than I'm on hold for customer service. In a lot of states people do work for their TANF money. Not surprised you didn't know that.
"I heard Trump was a pedophile. How does a does a child rapist succeed in business and have a tv show? This is just what I heard. Maybe that's right, maybe that's wrong."
O tempora, o mores, what a day, what a day, right? This morning's tilt-a-whirl news conference, in which President Barack Obama decided to release his long form birth certificate, to satiate some pure-bred American nutters in thrall to the President's most disingenuous -- or paranoid -- opponents, was an event I never thought would come, because I just figured that the White House had the eminent good sense to know that conspiracists should not be negotiated with - just like terrorists.
But here we are today. The President of the United States has brandished documentation that only proved that there was never a compelling reason to brandish it in the first place, seeing as it only proved what he and every relevant official and the documents that were publicly available had already confirmed: that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, a pure citizen of these United States.
Chances are it was a confluence of dumb events that brought the White House to this point. A nearly-enacted law in Arizona that wouldn't have been satisfied with the clear proof already available. A campaign season on the horizon. Ed Henry's idiotic questions, posed a day after his own network decided to actually debunk the nonsense once and for all. Franklin Graham's paranoid assertions going unchallenged on a Sunday Morning political show. I think I understand Obama's mindset when he said this:
"We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We have better stuff to do. I have got better stuff to do. We have got big problems to solve...We are not going to be able to do it if we are distracted, we are not going to be able to do it if we spend time vilifying each other ... if we just make stuff up and pretend that facts are not facts, we are not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by side shows and carnival barkers.
Of course, lately, the biggest barker in this barmy carny show has been Donald Trump. Admittedly, he's been the gift that keeps on giving -- the guy who's been telling America that he's going to stick it to China, even while his clothing line is manufactured there. He literally doesn't say much of anything. He rarely even tries: his campaign rhetoric is typically confined to empty bromides and tautological assertions of his great value. But if there's an issue Trump had exerted effort to put into the public square, it's this idiotic birtherism. And today, he claims to be "honored" by the fact that the nation was dragged into this trench.
Well, turnabout is fair play. And if members of the press actually want to end the sideshow, they have a choice: they can be the audience member, or they can be the critic. They can treat the carny barker as an object of ridicule, or better yet, start treating him as if he were a serious candidate. Either way works for me. But they have to quit the circus. They have to stop dancing Trump's dance, and stop performing to his beck and call.
Greg Sargent suggests a great place to start:
George Stepanopoulos reminds us that he recently asked Trump in an interview if he'd release his tax returns if Obama released the birth certificate Trump has been demanding. Trump responded:
"Maybe I'm going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate. I may tie my tax returns. I'd love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama's birth certificate."
Story continues below
I've asked a Trump spokesperson whether he will now release his tax returns in light of this morning's development
The question of whether Trump will follow through no this suggestion goes directly to the heart of whether Trump's presidential flirtation has been a big fraud all along. Those who say it's a ruse argue that Trump will never run for president, because he'd have to reveal that his net worth is far less than he's claimed. Trump, who bristles at this suggestion, sought to dispel such talk by suggesting to Stephanopoulos that he'd release his tax returns if Obama released his birth certificate -- apparently thinking he was secure in the knowledge that Obama would never do this. Now Trump's bluff has been called.
Show us the money, Donald. Show us your grades. Show us the invoices from your crack team of birthernaut investigators that haven't delivered proof, that Obama was born elsewhere or of their existence. Show me a guy from your old neighborhood who even remembers you were around.
And memo to Juli Weiner at Vanity Fair and Justin Elliott at Salon: put those media criticism doodles you got from Trump up on eBay. Let's see what the real world value of Donald Trump's opinion is.
I'll leave you with the thoughts of The Onion's Baratunde Thurston, who basically just went off today when he heard what was happening. Of Trump's birther binge, Thurston says, "It's embarrassing to the entire nation that we would sit and let this happen. We have all been debased by this incident. By this charlatan, by this con man, by this mere promoter of himself."
"No one has ever asked [Trump] to prove anything," Thurston points out. That should change!
watch the video...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
why bother replying and bumping the thread if you do not read the material? isn't reading what was written and then replying to it the way a discussion and communication is supposed to work???
it might change your opinion of your boy trump just a tad.
maybe you should read it. i guess you didn't watch the video either?
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
why bother replying and bumping the thread if you do not read the material? isn't reading what was written and then replying to it the way a discussion and communication is supposed to work???
It's a very obnoxious thing to post, for sure... rude and dismissive. And it's usually what people post when they know they're wrong and want to ignore the proof.
why bother replying and bumping the thread if you do not read the material? isn't reading what was written and then replying to it the way a discussion and communication is supposed to work???
it might change your opinion of your boy trump just a tad.
maybe you should read it. i guess you didn't watch the video either?
twice in this thread i have had to direct you to prior posts that answered your direct questions. either you have no memory retention or didn't read something yourself.
Comments
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Yeah, it could have been done years ago, but where does this stand in the list of priorities on Obama's plate? Probably at the bottom. How ridiculous that citizens focus on this, rather on bigger issues.
The Donald is not going anywhere....
stay tuned.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Sounds like my kind of BBQ! I would love to smoke a hogs leg with him. My last was a 19 pounder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky-71WXtZ40
AWESOME
cube was exactly who i was looking for, thanks norm
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Trump has enormous balls. He will say anything, anywhere, if he believes it,"
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
WOOT!
I'm saving that URL for every PJ20 and Alpine thread
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
today...The Donald:
"He should have done it a long time ago…when the Clintons asked for it.”
Business being lean and efficient is a myth. Businesses are user friendly? I get through my taxes faster than I'm on hold for customer service. In a lot of states people do work for their TANF money. Not surprised you didn't know that.
That doesn't apply here.
with all due respect, that simply is not true and I have witnessed it first hand.
I have also witnessed business being inefficient and bloated, so which one of us is right?
Like every Law Firm I have worked for......very wasteful.
2 against 1 now!
this is fun...let me try
"I heard Trump was a pedophile. How does a does a child rapist succeed in business and have a tv show? This is just what I heard. Maybe that's right, maybe that's wrong."
Donald Trump Should Receive The Same Scrutiny He Sought For Barack Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/2 ... 54583.html
O tempora, o mores, what a day, what a day, right? This morning's tilt-a-whirl news conference, in which President Barack Obama decided to release his long form birth certificate, to satiate some pure-bred American nutters in thrall to the President's most disingenuous -- or paranoid -- opponents, was an event I never thought would come, because I just figured that the White House had the eminent good sense to know that conspiracists should not be negotiated with - just like terrorists.
But here we are today. The President of the United States has brandished documentation that only proved that there was never a compelling reason to brandish it in the first place, seeing as it only proved what he and every relevant official and the documents that were publicly available had already confirmed: that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, a pure citizen of these United States.
Chances are it was a confluence of dumb events that brought the White House to this point. A nearly-enacted law in Arizona that wouldn't have been satisfied with the clear proof already available. A campaign season on the horizon. Ed Henry's idiotic questions, posed a day after his own network decided to actually debunk the nonsense once and for all. Franklin Graham's paranoid assertions going unchallenged on a Sunday Morning political show. I think I understand Obama's mindset when he said this:
"We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We have better stuff to do. I have got better stuff to do. We have got big problems to solve...We are not going to be able to do it if we are distracted, we are not going to be able to do it if we spend time vilifying each other ... if we just make stuff up and pretend that facts are not facts, we are not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by side shows and carnival barkers.
Of course, lately, the biggest barker in this barmy carny show has been Donald Trump. Admittedly, he's been the gift that keeps on giving -- the guy who's been telling America that he's going to stick it to China, even while his clothing line is manufactured there. He literally doesn't say much of anything. He rarely even tries: his campaign rhetoric is typically confined to empty bromides and tautological assertions of his great value. But if there's an issue Trump had exerted effort to put into the public square, it's this idiotic birtherism. And today, he claims to be "honored" by the fact that the nation was dragged into this trench.
Well, turnabout is fair play. And if members of the press actually want to end the sideshow, they have a choice: they can be the audience member, or they can be the critic. They can treat the carny barker as an object of ridicule, or better yet, start treating him as if he were a serious candidate. Either way works for me. But they have to quit the circus. They have to stop dancing Trump's dance, and stop performing to his beck and call.
Greg Sargent suggests a great place to start:
George Stepanopoulos reminds us that he recently asked Trump in an interview if he'd release his tax returns if Obama released the birth certificate Trump has been demanding. Trump responded:
"Maybe I'm going to do the tax returns when Obama does his birth certificate. I may tie my tax returns. I'd love to give my tax returns. I may tie my tax returns into Obama's birth certificate."
Story continues below
I've asked a Trump spokesperson whether he will now release his tax returns in light of this morning's development
The question of whether Trump will follow through no this suggestion goes directly to the heart of whether Trump's presidential flirtation has been a big fraud all along. Those who say it's a ruse argue that Trump will never run for president, because he'd have to reveal that his net worth is far less than he's claimed. Trump, who bristles at this suggestion, sought to dispel such talk by suggesting to Stephanopoulos that he'd release his tax returns if Obama released his birth certificate -- apparently thinking he was secure in the knowledge that Obama would never do this. Now Trump's bluff has been called.
Show us the money, Donald. Show us your grades. Show us the invoices from your crack team of birthernaut investigators that haven't delivered proof, that Obama was born elsewhere or of their existence. Show me a guy from your old neighborhood who even remembers you were around.
And memo to Juli Weiner at Vanity Fair and Justin Elliott at Salon: put those media criticism doodles you got from Trump up on eBay. Let's see what the real world value of Donald Trump's opinion is.
I'll leave you with the thoughts of The Onion's Baratunde Thurston, who basically just went off today when he heard what was happening. Of Trump's birther binge, Thurston says, "It's embarrassing to the entire nation that we would sit and let this happen. We have all been debased by this incident. By this charlatan, by this con man, by this mere promoter of himself."
"No one has ever asked [Trump] to prove anything," Thurston points out. That should change!
watch the video...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
long
didn't
read
it might change your opinion of your boy trump just a tad.
maybe you should read it. i guess you didn't watch the video either?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
It's a very obnoxious thing to post, for sure... rude and dismissive. And it's usually what people post when they know they're wrong and want to ignore the proof.
Like... well, here.
twice in this thread i have had to direct you to prior posts that answered your direct questions. either you have no memory retention or didn't read something yourself.