I don't follow hoops like you guys but I was wondering what good players are stuck with bad teams? I'l start:
Millsap - Jazz (hope I'm wrong)
Kobe - Lakers (hope I'm right)
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
and here's my updated transaction list through yesterday:
12-9 - Celtics - Chris Wilcox, Keyon Dooling, Marquis Daniels
12-9 - Clippers - Caron Butler
12-9 - Lakers - Jason Kapono
12-9 - Magic - Larry Hughes, Gabe Pruitt
12-9 - Suns - Sebastian Telfair, Shannon Brown
12-9 - Mavericks - Brandan Wright
12-9 - Nets - Jameson Curry
12-10 - Knicks - Tyson Chandler, Ahmad Nivins, Giorgos Printezis, Mike Bibby
12-10 - Wizards - Ronny Turiaf
12-10 - Mavericks - Andy Rautins
12-10 - Heat - Eddy Curry, Shane Battier
12-10 - Pistons - Damien Wilkins
12-10 - Raptors - Rasual Butler, Gary Forbes
12-10 - Hawks - Vladmir Radmanovic
12-11 - Pacers - David West
12-11 - Trail Blazers - Kurt Thomas
12-11 - Raptors - Aaron Gray
12-11 - Spurs - TJ Ford
12-12 - Hawks - Jerry Stackhouse
12-12 - Raptors - Anthony Carter
12-12 - Magic - Glen Davis, Von Wafer
12-12 - Celtics - Brandon Bass
12-12 - Mavericks - Vince Carter
12-12 - Wizards - Mardy Collins, Mike Wilks, Roger Mason
12-13 - Nets - Shelden Williams
12-13 - Warriors - Kwame Brown
12-13 - Lakers - Gerald Green
12-13 - Mavericks - Delonte West
12-13 - Thunder - Lazar Hayward
12-13 - Nuggets - Corey Brewer, Rudy Fernandez
12-13 - Knicks - Devin Green
12-13 - Suns - Marcus Landry
12-13 - Jazz - Jamaal Tinsley, Keith McLeod
12-14 - Clippers - Chris Paul
12-14 - Hornets - Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman
12-14 - Bulls - Richard Hamilton
12-14 - Lakers - Josh McRoberts
12-14 - Timberwolves - Jose Barea
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Chicago 2007
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Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
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I don't follow hoops like you guys but I was wondering what good players are stuck with bad teams? I'l start:
Millsap - Jazz (hope I'm wrong)
Kobe - Lakers (hope I'm right)
Howard - Magic
Gordon - Hornets
Allen - Boston
bogurt - Bucks
I thought of bogut, since he's a utah guy, but I'm not sure he's a good player :? . would be nice to see him with a better cast.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Philly I & II, 16
Denver 22
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Who are the top teams these days, Celtics? Lakers?
Bulls
Heat
Celtics
Thunder
Mavs
Clips :?
^^^^ wrong guy to ask
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
and here's my updated transaction list through yesterday:
12-9 - Celtics - Chris Wilcox, Keyon Dooling, Marquis Daniels
12-9 - Clippers - Caron Butler
12-9 - Lakers - Jason Kapono
12-9 - Magic - Larry Hughes, Gabe Pruitt
12-9 - Suns - Sebastian Telfair, Shannon Brown
12-9 - Mavericks - Brandan Wright
12-9 - Nets - Jameson Curry
12-10 - Knicks - Tyson Chandler, Ahmad Nivins, Giorgos Printezis, Mike Bibby
12-10 - Wizards - Ronny Turiaf
12-10 - Mavericks - Andy Rautins
12-10 - Heat - Eddy Curry, Shane Battier
12-10 - Pistons - Damien Wilkins
12-10 - Raptors - Rasual Butler, Gary Forbes
12-10 - Hawks - Vladmir Radmanovic
12-11 - Pacers - David West
12-11 - Trail Blazers - Kurt Thomas
12-11 - Raptors - Aaron Gray
12-11 - Spurs - TJ Ford
12-12 - Hawks - Jerry Stackhouse
12-12 - Raptors - Anthony Carter
12-12 - Magic - Glen Davis, Von Wafer
12-12 - Celtics - Brandon Bass
12-12 - Mavericks - Vince Carter
12-12 - Wizards - Mardy Collins, Mike Wilks, Roger Mason
12-13 - Nets - Shelden Williams
12-13 - Warriors - Kwame Brown
12-13 - Lakers - Gerald Green
12-13 - Mavericks - Delonte West
12-13 - Thunder - Lazar Hayward
12-13 - Nuggets - Corey Brewer, Rudy Fernandez
12-13 - Knicks - Devin Green
12-13 - Suns - Marcus Landry
12-13 - Jazz - Jamaal Tinsley, Keith McLeod
12-14 - Clippers - Chris Paul
12-14 - Hornets - Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman
12-14 - Bulls - Richard Hamilton
12-14 - Lakers - Josh McRoberts
12-14 - Timberwolves - Jose Barea
I think you forgot Lamar Odom to the Mavericks.
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The East is between teh Bulls and Heat
The West is wide open....i think the Thunder will make a lot of noise.
Knicks are also in favor of being a big in the East.
Thunder will definitely make some noise, but Denver, Memphis, San Antonio, & Dallas are all teams that are most likely going to continue their success from last season into this one too.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a few Western teams surprise some people.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
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The East is between teh Bulls and Heat
The West is wide open....i think the Thunder will make a lot of noise.
Knicks are also in favor of being a big in the East.
Thunder will definitely make some noise, but Denver, Memphis, San Antonio, & Dallas are all teams that are most likely going to continue their success from last season into this one too.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a few Western teams surprise some people.
I don't see Memphis or Denver winning it all...SA is an interesting case if they can stay healthy...Dallas is going to fall back, they were frauds last year.
Knicks will be improved as well, but i don't think they have the guns to compete for the title
The East is between teh Bulls and Heat
The West is wide open....i think the Thunder will make a lot of noise.
Knicks are also in favor of being a big in the East.
Thunder will definitely make some noise, but Denver, Memphis, San Antonio, & Dallas are all teams that are most likely going to continue their success from last season into this one too.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a few Western teams surprise some people.
I don't see Memphis or Denver winning it all...SA is an interesting case if they can stay healthy...Dallas is going to fall back, they were frauds last year.
Knicks will be improved as well, but i don't think they have the guns to compete for the title
I don't think NY, Memphis or Denver will take it all this year either, and yeah... SA has some big "if's." But the Knicks, I think at this point, should be considered a top team in the East... but that's obviously a presumption as we haven't seen the new squad play together.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
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But the Knicks, I think at this point, should be considered a top team in the East... but that's obviously a presumption as we haven't seen the new squad play together.
quick...name a guard or a back up on that team.....
exactly
they will be improved, and could win 50 games in a full season...but i don't view them as contenders
But the Knicks, I think at this point, should be considered a top team in the East... but that's obviously a presumption as we haven't seen the new squad play together.
quick...name a guard or a back up on that team.....
exactly
they will be improved, and could win 50 games in a full season...but i don't view them as contenders
Landry Fields (SG) was one of the best rookies last year... I'd expect him to make some more appearances.
I just hope they win on Christmas so I can win the bet I've got on that game with the girlfriend.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Dallas is going to fall back, they were frauds last year.
how were they "frauds"....pray tell?
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
i heard that paul was willing to exercise his option for 2013 upon a trade ... is he gonna do that or is he gonna just play the year out and leave the clips in shambles? ...
no one wants to play for the clippers...paul will be gone after this season...griffin will be gone...they might have some success this year, maybe even make the playoffs but it won't last
Dallas is going to fall back, they were frauds last year.
how were they "frauds"....pray tell?
Yeah, I don't understand this - they mashed their way through everyone last year.
81 will explain.....
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
i heard that paul was willing to exercise his option for 2013 upon a trade ... is he gonna do that or is he gonna just play the year out and leave the clips in shambles? ...
no one wants to play for the clippers...paul will be gone after this season...griffin will be gone...they might have some success this year, maybe even make the playoffs but it won't last
you're just bitter that you're stuck with the staples center "B" team
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
i heard that paul was willing to exercise his option for 2013 upon a trade ... is he gonna do that or is he gonna just play the year out and leave the clips in shambles? ...
no one wants to play for the clippers...paul will be gone after this season...griffin will be gone...they might have some success this year, maybe even make the playoffs but it won't last
you're just bitter that you're stuck with the staples center "B" team
honestly i would love to see the clips be successful...25+ of shittiness is enough but with Sterling as owner nothing will change
see the team and move them to anaheim
and i'm still trying to figure out why people think the lakers are gonna tank...because odom is gone?
and i'm still trying to figure out why people think the lakers are gonna tank...because odom is gone?
no...because, right now, you're down a guy (odom)....fisher and metta are old....kobe is not happy (perhaps a positive :? )...and your boys got beat down in the playoffs last year ( for me!)
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Philly I & II, 16
Denver 22
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and i'm still trying to figure out why people think the lakers are gonna tank...because odom is gone?
no...because, right now, you're down a guy (odom)....fisher and metta are old....kobe is not happy (perhaps a positive :? )...and your boys got beat down in the playoffs last year ( for me!)
jason kapono will be the key to the lakers season.
can norm root for a ucla boy?
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
i just don't buy into the greatness that is the Mavs....
congrads on winning it all, now back to the middle of the pack....
"greatness" - no
"frauds" - no, again
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Comments
Millsap - Jazz (hope I'm wrong)
Kobe - Lakers (hope I'm right)
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
12-9 - Celtics - Chris Wilcox, Keyon Dooling, Marquis Daniels
12-9 - Clippers - Caron Butler
12-9 - Lakers - Jason Kapono
12-9 - Magic - Larry Hughes, Gabe Pruitt
12-9 - Suns - Sebastian Telfair, Shannon Brown
12-9 - Mavericks - Brandan Wright
12-9 - Nets - Jameson Curry
12-10 - Knicks - Tyson Chandler, Ahmad Nivins, Giorgos Printezis, Mike Bibby
12-10 - Wizards - Ronny Turiaf
12-10 - Mavericks - Andy Rautins
12-10 - Heat - Eddy Curry, Shane Battier
12-10 - Pistons - Damien Wilkins
12-10 - Raptors - Rasual Butler, Gary Forbes
12-10 - Hawks - Vladmir Radmanovic
12-11 - Pacers - David West
12-11 - Trail Blazers - Kurt Thomas
12-11 - Raptors - Aaron Gray
12-11 - Spurs - TJ Ford
12-12 - Hawks - Jerry Stackhouse
12-12 - Raptors - Anthony Carter
12-12 - Magic - Glen Davis, Von Wafer
12-12 - Celtics - Brandon Bass
12-12 - Mavericks - Vince Carter
12-12 - Wizards - Mardy Collins, Mike Wilks, Roger Mason
12-13 - Nets - Shelden Williams
12-13 - Warriors - Kwame Brown
12-13 - Lakers - Gerald Green
12-13 - Mavericks - Delonte West
12-13 - Thunder - Lazar Hayward
12-13 - Nuggets - Corey Brewer, Rudy Fernandez
12-13 - Knicks - Devin Green
12-13 - Suns - Marcus Landry
12-13 - Jazz - Jamaal Tinsley, Keith McLeod
12-14 - Clippers - Chris Paul
12-14 - Hornets - Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman
12-14 - Bulls - Richard Hamilton
12-14 - Lakers - Josh McRoberts
12-14 - Timberwolves - Jose Barea
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
Howard - Magic
Gordon - Hornets
Allen - Boston
bogurt - Bucks
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
he's a good player when healthy
Bulls
Heat
Celtics
Thunder
Mavs
Clips :?
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
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"Becoming a Bruce fan is like hitting puberty as a musical fan. It's inevitable." - dcfaithful
The bulls aren't a top team?
The East is between teh Bulls and Heat
The West is wide open....i think the Thunder will make a lot of noise.
Knicks are also in favor of being a big in the East.
Thunder will definitely make some noise, but Denver, Memphis, San Antonio, & Dallas are all teams that are most likely going to continue their success from last season into this one too.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a few Western teams surprise some people.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
I don't see Memphis or Denver winning it all...SA is an interesting case if they can stay healthy...Dallas is going to fall back, they were frauds last year.
Knicks will be improved as well, but i don't think they have the guns to compete for the title
I don't think NY, Memphis or Denver will take it all this year either, and yeah... SA has some big "if's." But the Knicks, I think at this point, should be considered a top team in the East... but that's obviously a presumption as we haven't seen the new squad play together.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
quick...name a guard or a back up on that team.....
exactly
they will be improved, and could win 50 games in a full season...but i don't view them as contenders
Landry Fields (SG) was one of the best rookies last year... I'd expect him to make some more appearances.
I just hope they win on Christmas so I can win the bet I've got on that game with the girlfriend.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Yeah, I don't understand this - they mashed their way through everyone last year.
no one wants to play for the clippers...paul will be gone after this season...griffin will be gone...they might have some success this year, maybe even make the playoffs but it won't last
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
honestly i would love to see the clips be successful...25+ of shittiness is enough but with Sterling as owner nothing will change
see the team and move them to anaheim
and i'm still trying to figure out why people think the lakers are gonna tank...because odom is gone?
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
i just don't buy into the greatness that is the Mavs....
congrads on winning it all, now back to the middle of the pack....
Kobe is getting old too.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
"frauds" - no, again
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
if i have to...shit i have to root for kobe and i can't stand the asshat!