Here's my top 10 players ever reguardless of postion:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Tim Duncan
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Jerry West
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Shaquille O' Neal
Here's my top 10 players ever reguardless of postion:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Tim Duncan
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Jerry West
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Shaquille O' Neal
Good list.
I'm not just saying this because I'm a Jazz fan, but if the list extends to 15 or 20, Malone and Stockton have to be on there. Both of them for great reasons. Stockton for instance still holding the career assists and steals records. The assist one by a pretty good margin at that.
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“If LeBron was playing in the late ’80s and early ’90s, he would be just an average player,” Rodman said.
:think: :corn:
obviously, he would get fouled harder more often, but lebron would do well in any era. dude is built like a tank. it would be nice to see him flop less.
it would also be interesting to see Rodman play D on lebron.
it would also be interesting to see Rodman play D on lebron.
That would be amazing to see.
I concur, that would be a very exciting match up.
7/2/06 - Denver, CO
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Here's my top 10 players ever reguardless of postion:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Tim Duncan
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Jerry West
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Shaquille O' Neal
Watching Duncan is as half exciting as watching Shaq but yes, he's up there.
And as good as it was watching Shaq, he's kind of in top-10 thanks to him getting away with all the traveling violations...
What's your part, who you are?
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2013: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires
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On the subject of the Heat PA guy: what does he say when there's two minutes left in a quarter? He says TWO MINTUES......and then something that the crowd joins in and says with him...but I can't for the life of me make out what it is.
He says Two Minutes in Spanish....Dos Minutos, the crowd chants Minutos.
^ the arena was so loud down there at one point I was like wow they are getting into it. Then my brother said, idiot they are all sitting with their mouths closed..... Artificial crowd noise pumped in
That's pretty cheesy
i can't stand the annoucers. i've timed it before, and it can take a good 6-8 seconds to announce a bucket. :fp:
Is it the glorious team of Mike Breen & JVG? Can't stand that duo.
I didn't watch the game but caught the highlights late last night. What a great outcome. Tony Parker is ace.
Spurs in 6 games.
There was no artificial noise pumped in. I have been to many Heat games and it gets pretty loud.
anyone see the dr j doc on nba tv last night? i've about 20 minutes into it right now...it's a must see
i forgot it was on :oops: is it on demand yet?
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Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
who is better
Pippen and Rodman or Horace Grant vs DWade and Bosh?
are we playing two on two?
if so, i'd take pippen and grant over pippen and rodman. grant, while not the defender that rodman was, was still a solid defender, and obviously a better offensive player.
so pippen/grant vs. wade/bosh. that's a tough call. if it was a 7 game match, i can easily see it going 7. being the bulls fan, i'd give a slight edge to the bulls players.
now if we are taking these two players and putting on a 5 man roster...i think i take rodman or grant assuming i have some more scoring in the other 3 positions.
who is better
Pippen and Rodman or Horace Grant vs DWade and Bosh?
Tough choice
Bosh is a pretty good scorer, but he's soft defensively. Rodman is a monster defender/rebounder, but can't score a lick.
Wade is a better scorer than Pippen, but it's closer than the other comparison, but again defensively Wade doesn't compare to Pippen.
Is Grant just mentioned b/c he was pf on the Bulls roster?
1)Pippen/Rodman
2)Wade/Bosh
3)Pippen/Grant
I agree with you and yes on Ho Grant -- although I feel like he might be pretty comparable to Bosh. :?
I disagree. Grant was a good rebounder and good defender down low; two things that Bosh isn't....and needs to be. Actually, I think Bosh is more comparable to Toni Kukoc than Rodman or Grant. He's a 6'11'' soft-as-all-hell lefty that's a better shooter than rebounder/defender. That's the problem with Bosh being in this "big 3." He has skills...but not the ones he needs to compliment the rest of the Heat. Imagine if the Heat had Tyson Chandler instead of Bosh. They'd be way better because they need a presence down low. Not a third scorer like Bosh. All things considered, Birdman should probably start over him. At least he crashes the boards and finishes strong. Really, what the heck does Bosh do other than hit the occasional mid-range jumper?
I disagree. Grant was a good rebounder and good defender down low; two things that Bosh isn't....and needs to be. Actually, I think Bosh is more comparable to Toni Kukoc than Rodman or Grant. He's a 6'11'' soft-as-all-hell lefty that's a better shooter than rebounder/defender. That's the problem with Bosh being in this "big 3." He has skills...but not the ones he needs to compliment the rest of the Heat. Imagine if the Heat had Tyson Chandler instead of Bosh. They'd be way better because they need a presence down low. Not a third scorer like Bosh. All things considered, Birdman should probably start over him. At least he crashes the boards and finishes strong. Really, what the heck does Bosh do other than hit the occasional mid-range jumper?
Bosh is nothing like Toni. Toni was a poor man's pippen on offense. he could handle the ball, run the offense, shoot the three. Bosh is basically a spot up shooter that occassionaly plays in the post.
I disagree. Grant was a good rebounder and good defender down low; two things that Bosh isn't....and needs to be. Actually, I think Bosh is more comparable to Toni Kukoc than Rodman or Grant. He's a 6'11'' soft-as-all-hell lefty that's a better shooter than rebounder/defender. That's the problem with Bosh being in this "big 3." He has skills...but not the ones he needs to compliment the rest of the Heat. Imagine if the Heat had Tyson Chandler instead of Bosh. They'd be way better because they need a presence down low. Not a third scorer like Bosh. All things considered, Birdman should probably start over him. At least he crashes the boards and finishes strong. Really, what the heck does Bosh do other than hit the occasional mid-range jumper?
Bosh is nothing like Toni. Toni was a poor man's pippen on offense. he could handle the ball, run the offense, shoot the three. Bosh is basically a spot up shooter that occassionaly plays in the post.
Yeah poor man's Pippen on offense but nothing on defense. That's where the Bosh comparison comes in.
so it looks like the clippers are going all clippers
The Los Angeles Clippers and the Boston Celtics have formally opened serious discussions on multiple transactions that potentially could add up to a seismic trade arrangement that ultimately lands Celtics stars Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and coach Doc Rivers in L.A., according to sources close to the process.
Sources told ESPN.com the Clippers are concurrently weighing the prospect of offering star forward Blake Griffin in tandem with prized young guard Eric Bledsoe to the Los Angeles Lakers in a sign-and-trade pitch to land Dwight Howard after July 1.
The initial talks with Boston, sources said Saturday, are focused on the Clippers satisfying Boston's compensation demands to let Rivers out of his lucrative contract and corresponding trade proposals aimed at bringing Garnett to town with Rivers.
The Clippers, sources said, are willing to surrender cash and multiple draft picks to secure Rivers' services and offer young center DeAndre Jordan as the primary piece in a deal in exchange for Garnett.
But sources said Saturday the Clippers, at present, are refusing to include the highly coveted Bledsoe with Jordan in the same trade in hopes of keeping Bledsoe for a separate transaction.
Sources say the Clippers want to keep open the option that they could package Bledsoe with Griffin in a sign-and-trade offer for Howard after the Lakers' center becomes a free agent on July 1. ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard reported Friday that Howard and Clippers star Chris Paul have been in consistent contact in recent weeks in hopes of landing on the same team via free agency.
The Clippers, furthermore, also have made Bledsoe their centerpiece of recent trade discussions with the Orlando Magic aimed at acquiring swingman Arron Afflalo.
All of these potential transactions, sources say, are part of the Clippers' intent, as reported Thursday by ESPN.com, to be "very aggressive" and "shake every tree" in an attempt to upgrade the roster to the point that Paul not only re-signs when he becomes a free agent on July 1 but that they are an unquestioned championship contender.
In the wake of ESPN.com's report earlier this week that Rivers and the Clippers have mutual interest in the event the Celtics' coach parts ways with Boston, sources say the Clippers are determined to try to acquire both Garnett and Pierce if Rivers indeed became available.
The Boston Herald reported on its web site Saturday afternoon that the two teams are "now engaged in talks involving Doc Rivers and players" and -- while acknowledging that many hurdles must be cleared -- also cited "significant impetus from both sides to find common ground."
In confirming the Herald's report to ESPN.com, one source with knowledge of the talks said Saturday that, because Pierce can be bought out of his 2013-14 contract this month for a mere $5 million, his inclusion in the discussions would likely come after the Rivers and Garnett elements are sorted out.
It also remains possible, sources said, that either the Celtics or the Clippers could elect to walk away from the talks next week if deals for Rivers and Garnett can't be struck, with L.A. then expected to hire one of the three finalists for their coaching job while also potentially pursuing Howard via sign-and-trade. The Clippers interviewed Brian Shaw, Byron Scott and Lionel Hollins this week, with sources saying Saturday that Hollins has emerged as the frontrunner from that group.
The Celtics, sources say, are asking for "a lot" of compensation for Rivers, which has given the Clippers pause. The Clippers, as one source put it, are determined "not to mortgage the farm" to land Rivers because they feel strongly about Hollins, who was brought back Friday for a second straight day of interviews with team officials.
After Boston's elimination from the playoffs, Celtics officials initially had denied multiple requests from the Clippers for permission to speak to Rivers. Until Saturday the Celtics had shown little inclination to back off their desire to convince their highly coveted coach to come back to the Boston bench next season.
Rivers has been deliberating about his future for weeks, with ESPN reporting Thursday that the 51-year-old feels it "may be time for a change," after nine seasons coaching the Celtics.
The growing belief in coaching circles is Rivers' indecision about definitively stating his desire to return to the Boston bench next season stems from his hope that he can convince Celtics president Danny Ainge not to blow up the roster and launch a full-fledged rebuilding project around point guard Rajon Rondo to instead keep the core of the team together. Sources close to the situation said earlier this week the Celtics want Rivers to stay and would have high compensation demands -- in the form of future draft picks and cash -- to allow him out of the remaining three years and $21 million on his contract to coach another NBA team next season.
It's likewise believed the Celtics' trio all prefer to carry on in Boston for one more season, but sources say they have undeniable interest in the idea of teaming up with the Clippers if it can't happen with the Celtics. The Clippers privately see themselves as well positioned to resurrect the trade discussions the two teams had in February should Boston decide that it's not prepared to bring back Pierce and Garnett.
ESPN.com reported Thursday the Celtics and Clippers, as an offshoot of their Garnett-to-L.A. trade talks that ultimately fizzled, also discussed trade scenarios before the Feb. 21 trade deadline in which the Clippers would receive both Garnett and Pierce.
Garnett, like Rivers, has not yet committed to come back next season, but sources say the likelihood of the 37-year-old agreeing to play one more season with the Celtics increases significantly if Pierce's option is picked up and they receive assurances they'll get one more season together. Garnett has a no-trade clause in his contract, but neither the Celtics nor the Clippers regard that as any sort of obstacle if Rivers goes to L.A., given the close relationship between Rivers and Garnett.
The Celtics have to decide by the end of June whether to assume the full $15.3 million Pierce is scheduled to make in 2013-14 or buy him out for $5 million. Another option for Boston is trying to trade Pierce in conjunction with this month's draft. But Pierce's stature in the organization after his role in helping the Celtics end a 21-season title drought as part of their championship team in 2008 is such that Ainge almost would certainly try to help Pierce get to the team of his choosing if the Celtics indeed decide that they want to go young.
Bledsoe would be open to a trade to Boston, despite the presence of Rondo, one source close to the situation said. The young point guard will be a restricted free agent after next season and it will be hard for the Clippers to match the type of lucrative offer Bledsoe will command on the open market while he plays a backup role behind Paul in LA. But Bledsoe believes there is room for both him and Rondo in the Celtics' backcourt.
Rivers signed a five-year, $35 million extension after the 2010-11 season and said he was committed to the potential long-term reshaping of Boston's roster. After the New York Knicks eliminated the Celtics in the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs, Rivers said of his future: "I'm coming back until I say I'm not."
The Herald report quoted a source in its report saying: "If [the Celtics] can't work things out with the Clippers, then Doc would have no problem going back and coaching. He just wants to make sure that if he does go, the Celtics come out of it stronger."
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1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Tim Duncan
6. Larry Bird
7. Hakeem Olajuwon
8. Jerry West
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Shaquille O' Neal
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Good list.
I'm not just saying this because I'm a Jazz fan, but if the list extends to 15 or 20, Malone and Stockton have to be on there. Both of them for great reasons. Stockton for instance still holding the career assists and steals records. The assist one by a pretty good margin at that.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
:think: :corn:
well there's that
obviously, he would get fouled harder more often, but lebron would do well in any era. dude is built like a tank. it would be nice to see him flop less.
it would also be interesting to see Rodman play D on lebron.
That would be amazing to see.
I concur, that would be a very exciting match up.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Watching Duncan is as half exciting as watching Shaq but yes, he's up there.
And as good as it was watching Shaq, he's kind of in top-10 thanks to him getting away with all the traveling violations...
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2013: Sao Paulo, Buenos Aires
2014: Milano, Trieste, Vienna, Berlin
2016: NY MSG 1
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Pippen and Rodman or Horace Grant vs DWade and Bosh?
Tough choice
Bosh is a pretty good scorer, but he's soft defensively. Rodman is a monster defender/rebounder, but can't score a lick.
Wade is a better scorer than Pippen, but it's closer than the other comparison, but again defensively Wade doesn't compare to Pippen.
Is Grant just mentioned b/c he was pf on the Bulls roster?
1)Pippen/Rodman
2)Wade/Bosh
3)Pippen/Grant
He says Two Minutes in Spanish....Dos Minutos, the crowd chants Minutos.
There was no artificial noise pumped in. I have been to many Heat games and it gets pretty loud.
i forgot it was on :oops: is it on demand yet?
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
dunno...it's on my dvr.
are we playing two on two?
if so, i'd take pippen and grant over pippen and rodman. grant, while not the defender that rodman was, was still a solid defender, and obviously a better offensive player.
so pippen/grant vs. wade/bosh. that's a tough call. if it was a 7 game match, i can easily see it going 7. being the bulls fan, i'd give a slight edge to the bulls players.
now if we are taking these two players and putting on a 5 man roster...i think i take rodman or grant assuming i have some more scoring in the other 3 positions.
I disagree. Grant was a good rebounder and good defender down low; two things that Bosh isn't....and needs to be. Actually, I think Bosh is more comparable to Toni Kukoc than Rodman or Grant. He's a 6'11'' soft-as-all-hell lefty that's a better shooter than rebounder/defender. That's the problem with Bosh being in this "big 3." He has skills...but not the ones he needs to compliment the rest of the Heat. Imagine if the Heat had Tyson Chandler instead of Bosh. They'd be way better because they need a presence down low. Not a third scorer like Bosh. All things considered, Birdman should probably start over him. At least he crashes the boards and finishes strong. Really, what the heck does Bosh do other than hit the occasional mid-range jumper?
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Bosh is nothing like Toni. Toni was a poor man's pippen on offense. he could handle the ball, run the offense, shoot the three. Bosh is basically a spot up shooter that occassionaly plays in the post.
Yeah poor man's Pippen on offense but nothing on defense. That's where the Bosh comparison comes in.
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inConsistency will not bring LeBrons name into conversations with Jordan and Kobe.
Bulls once beat the Jazz by 42 points in Finals
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haha ... he's an awesome mascot ...
bosh is the most overrated player on that team ... by a long shot ...
so like the clippers to go OLDER and SLOWER