The 2013-14 NBA season

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  • RW81233RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Kobe doesn't have to guard MJ at all LeBron has that duty, and you think Malone could stay in front of Melo? Drexler played defense about as good as Melo does. These teams are closer than most give credit for. Again I'd probably still say old guys, but this is 20 years of human athletic advancement on - LeBron would destroy every single guy on the original dream team. None of them had seen a Durant, Westbrook would cause problems for Magic. This isn't a blowout game.
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    Humphries back to the Nets. 2 years/24 million. Worth it IMO.

    He's been coming into his own the past two seasons in a Nets uniform. If he keeps the trajectory, he's a worthy asset for his work on the boards and his ability to get double digit points per game.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    81 wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    . But we'll find out how much he can stand out now that he's playing in the Western conference.

    Isn't New Orleans in the west

    give him a break...he's still in shock over the nash trade :corn:
  • SnakeduckSnakeduck Posts: 1,056
    norm wrote:
    81 wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    . But we'll find out how much he can stand out now that he's playing in the Western conference.

    Isn't New Orleans in the west

    give him a break...he's still in shock over the nash trade :corn:

    Only Nash can make me say... Go Lakers!
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    RW81233 wrote:
    Kobe doesn't have to guard MJ at all LeBron has that duty, and you think Malone could stay in front of Melo? Drexler played defense about as good as Melo does. These teams are closer than most give credit for. Again I'd probably still say old guys, but this is 20 years of human athletic advancement on - LeBron would destroy every single guy on the original dream team. None of them had seen a Durant, Westbrook would cause problems for Magic. This isn't a blowout game.

    i agree it wouldn't be a blowout....92 in 6

    i disagree that leborn would destroy everyone....sure you put lebron on jordan, but lets remember, jordan wasn't eactly short and unathletic. from the blow by, the jab step back jumped, to the post game....he could score at will then, and he could score at will now.

    like i said before, i'd love to see a in his prime pippen take on a in his prime lebron. lebron is just a tick taller as well as being stronger physically. but pippen was a lock down defender, we're talking all time great wing defenders. i could see him forcing lebron to pass the ball and make it difficult for a return pass.

    at point guard magic would tower over anything that 12 has....and could play out top or in the post....that said, 12 would be able to break down the defense on penetration better...but robinson and eweing were solid back lines. also, if you wanted, you could slide magic over to lebron and pippen or jordan onto the point.

    i think i'd actually like to see the 72 win bulls team take on the current dream team...there you get a uber confident group, that had one of the best D's ever.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    Jeremy Lin's Departure Teaches Knicks Fans Important Lesson About Getting Excited By The Knicks

    JULY 17, 2012

    NEW YORK—Following the Knicks' decision Tuesday not to match the Houston Rockets' three-year, $25-million offer for point guard Jeremy Lin, depressed New York fans learned a valuable lesson about ever feeling even the slightest bit of excitement for their team. "Goddammit," longtime fan Erik Reid, 52, said upon hearing the Knicks had opted to acquire Raymond Felton from Portland in lieu of re-signing Lin, the team's sole bright spot in an otherwise forgettable 2011-2012 season. "I guess it makes sense when you think about the Ewing-Riley team of the '90s, the entire Isiah Thomas era, spending $100 million on Amar'e Stoudemire, LeBron James choosing Miami over New York, and basically every single management decision under James Dolan. Christ, I really should know better by now." As of press time, Reid had spent several minutes staring wistfully at his Knicks season ticket-renewal form before begrudgingly filling it out and putting it in the mail.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/jeremy-lins-departure-teaches-knicks-fans-importan,28810/
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    Jason P wrote:
    Jeremy Lin's Departure Teaches Knicks Fans Important Lesson About Getting Excited By The Knicks

    JULY 17, 2012

    NEW YORK—Following the Knicks' decision Tuesday not to match the Houston Rockets' three-year, $25-million offer for point guard Jeremy Lin, depressed New York fans learned a valuable lesson about ever feeling even the slightest bit of excitement for their team. "Goddammit," longtime fan Erik Reid, 52, said upon hearing the Knicks had opted to acquire Raymond Felton from Portland in lieu of re-signing Lin, the team's sole bright spot in an otherwise forgettable 2011-2012 season. "I guess it makes sense when you think about the Ewing-Riley team of the '90s, the entire Isiah Thomas era, spending $100 million on Amar'e Stoudemire, LeBron James choosing Miami over New York, and basically every single management decision under James Dolan. Christ, I really should know better by now." As of press time, Reid had spent several minutes staring wistfully at his Knicks season ticket-renewal form before begrudgingly filling it out and putting it in the mail.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/jeremy-lins-departure-teaches-knicks-fans-importan,28810/


    knicks should be happy somebody took Lin off their hands
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    can't believe the rockets traded lowry to sign lin ... :fp:
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    polaris_x wrote:
    can't believe the rockets signed lin ... :fp:

    really, that's all that needs to be said
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,145
    polaris_x wrote:
    can't believe the rockets traded lowry to sign lin ... :fp:

    I can't believe the Knicks said they would pay a billion for him, and then did not match $25 million :lol:
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    I can't believe the Knicks said they would pay a billion for him, and then did not match $25 million :lol:

    :lol::lol:

    maybe yao ming is coming out of retirement ... :P
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    Revenue of up to $100 million is expected when the league allows advertising on uniforms. The league projection could be adjusted as individual teams and manufacturers to sort through all the variables in play in the major change. Replica uniforms would also include the advertising patches, which would be patterned after professional basketball and soccer in Europe with explicit limitations.

    :fp:
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,823
    81 wrote:
    Revenue of up to $100 million is expected when the league allows advertising on uniforms. The league projection could be adjusted as individual teams and manufacturers to sort through all the variables in play in the major change. Replica uniforms would also include the advertising patches, which would be patterned after professional basketball and soccer in Europe with explicit limitations.

    :fp:


    What is this? The Arena Football League??? Brutal.
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Posts: 9,221
    I'm through 2 1/2 parts of it, but ESPN has a very interesting and detailed six-part series about the Jeremy Lin story and the behind the scenes of it.

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    81 wrote:
    Revenue of up to $100 million is expected when the league allows advertising on uniforms. The league projection could be adjusted as individual teams and manufacturers to sort through all the variables in play in the major change. Replica uniforms would also include the advertising patches, which would be patterned after professional basketball and soccer in Europe with explicit limitations.

    :fp:

    and with all that new $$ owners will lower ticket prices, right?

    :| :roll:
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    norm wrote:
    81 wrote:
    Revenue of up to $100 million is expected when the league allows advertising on uniforms. The league projection could be adjusted as individual teams and manufacturers to sort through all the variables in play in the major change. Replica uniforms would also include the advertising patches, which would be patterned after professional basketball and soccer in Europe with explicit limitations.

    :fp:

    and with all that new $$ owners will lower ticket prices, right?

    :| :roll:

    This is such bullshit. Fuck jersey advertisements.
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  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    If the Wolves give Kirilenko $20 million for two years, he's really got to live up to that. He's a worthy addition to a team, and is really versatile, but personally, I don't see $20 mil for 2 years being an acceptable price tag.

    He was over paid in Utah for the last season he played here.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    dcfaithful wrote:
    This is such bullshit. Fuck jersey advertisements.

    Aren't there other major sports that have done this? Is it any different than the Nike emblems that are already there? I kinda view it the way I view band "selling out". If it doesn't effect the product I couldn't really give a rat's ass.
    Yeah, it's gonna look silly at first but I'm sure the billionaire owners are generating money doing way worse stuff.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,145
    As a Nets fan I am not too happy that they open their arena and play the Knicks in the season opener. Ticket prices are now going to be even steeper and this should be a celebration of the move to BK, but now so many Knicks fans will weasel their way in :evil:
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  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,823
    DewieCox wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    This is such bullshit. Fuck jersey advertisements.

    Aren't there other major sports that have done this? Is it any different than the Nike emblems that are already there? I kinda view it the way I view band "selling out". If it doesn't effect the product I couldn't really give a rat's ass.
    Yeah, it's gonna look silly at first but I'm sure the billionaire owners are generating money doing way worse stuff.


    The only other sports I can think of are MLS and Arena Football.....teams that are desperate for income any way they can get it. It's one thing for teams like that to do it. But for a league like the NBA to start it is just plain greedy. Hopefully NHL, NFL, and MLB never resort to this.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    DewieCox wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    This is such bullshit. Fuck jersey advertisements.

    Aren't there other major sports that have done this? Is it any different than the Nike emblems that are already there? I kinda view it the way I view band "selling out". If it doesn't effect the product I couldn't really give a rat's ass.
    Yeah, it's gonna look silly at first but I'm sure the billionaire owners are generating money doing way worse stuff.


    The only other sports I can think of are MLS and Arena Football.....teams that are desperate for income any way they can get it. It's one thing for teams like that to do it. But for a league like the NBA to start it is just plain greedy. Hopefully NHL, NFL, and MLB never resort to this.

    Yeah, I'd rather them not do it but it doesn't bother me. I think we already knew the 4 major pro sports and the NCAA are a bunch of greedy a-holes. I don't think a 2.5"x2.5"square is gonna make me think that much less of them.
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    DewieCox wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:
    This is such bullshit. Fuck jersey advertisements.

    Aren't there other major sports that have done this? Is it any different than the Nike emblems that are already there? I kinda view it the way I view band "selling out". If it doesn't effect the product I couldn't really give a rat's ass.
    Yeah, it's gonna look silly at first but I'm sure the billionaire owners are generating money doing way worse stuff.

    I guess I just find it unnecessary. I've been a fan of the NBA since I was a kid and I've always enjoyed a lot of NBA uniforms and do not want to see it tainted with fucking corporate bullshit, just because the owners and suitcoats of the league want some more money in their already fat pockets. Especially from companies that I could care less about. You have corporate logos and advertistements every god damn place in sports already. The court, the entire mechanism that holds the backboard and rim. The ball itself. All the advertisements within the arena. Right underneath the scorers table that is on television nearly the entire time the game is on. Then you have the copious amount of advertisements that are on during the broadcast.

    If it results in less commercials during the broadcast, or even better, reduced tickets, than I can deal with it. But if it doesn't affect the already insane ticket prices, then I have a problem with it. If they're going to subject us to corporate logos that we don't give a shit about jsut to further pound it into our subconscious then I'd like to be given a break on ticket prices so I can afford to attend more than one or two games a season.

    Just like people that miss the days of arenas and stadiums being called something like "The Boston Garden" or "The LA Forum", I will miss the days of uniforms that didn't have corporate logos on them right in your face. The jerseys today have Adidas logos on them, but they are on a tag at the bottom of the jersey. They aren't in plain sight, the only logo that is is the NBA's.

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    By the way Dewie, my post isn't attackign you, I'm attacking the idea of putting logos on jerseys. I hate the idea, and as you can tell, I hate it very much. :)
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,425
    dcfaithful wrote:
    By the way Dewie, my post isn't attackign you, I'm attacking the idea of putting logos on jerseys. I hate the idea, and as you can tell, I hate it very much. :)

    Likewise and I agree it is totally unnecessary but just like everything else it's gonna get more commercialized. I don't want it to turn into the Zatarain's Hornets or Viagra Timeberwolves but a 2" square isn't really gonna affect me watching a game too much.
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,823
    dcfaithful wrote:

    I guess I just find it unnecessary. I've been a fan of the NBA since I was a kid and I've always enjoyed a lot of NBA uniforms and do not want to see it tainted with fucking corporate bullshit, just because the owners and suitcoats of the league want some more money in their already fat pockets. Especially from companies that I could care less about. You have corporate logos and advertistements every god damn place in sports already. The court, the entire mechanism that holds the backboard and rim. The ball itself. All the advertisements within the arena. Right underneath the scorers table that is on television nearly the entire time the game is on. Then you have the copious amount of advertisements that are on during the broadcast.

    If it results in less commercials during the broadcast, or even better, reduced tickets, than I can deal with it. But if it doesn't affect the already insane ticket prices, then I have a problem with it. If they're going to subject us to corporate logos that we don't give a shit about jsut to further pound it into our subconscious then I'd like to be given a break on ticket prices so I can afford to attend more than one or two games a season.

    Just like people that miss the days of arenas and stadiums being called something like "The Boston Garden" or "The LA Forum", I will miss the days of uniforms that didn't have corporate logos on them right in your face. The jerseys today have Adidas logos on them, but they are on a tag at the bottom of the jersey. They aren't in plain sight, the only logo that is is the NBA's.

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    By the way Dewie, my post isn't attackign you, I'm attacking the idea of putting logos on jerseys. I hate the idea, and as you can tell, I hate it very much. :)


    Tell us how you really feel. :D

    I agree with everything you said. You know there's no way this is bringing ticket prices down. Like you said, every other facet of going to an NBA game is loaded with ads, can't we just leave the jerseys alone???? It's a shame too because there are some classic NBA jerseys (Bulls, Knicks, Lakers, Celtics, Spurs, Blazers just to name a few) that are going to be ruined by a stupid fucking ad on it.

    Speaking of jerseys...what is with these team USA jerseys for the Olympics??? Those are awful.
  • dcfaithfuldcfaithful Posts: 13,076
    dcfaithful wrote:

    I guess I just find it unnecessary. I've been a fan of the NBA since I was a kid and I've always enjoyed a lot of NBA uniforms and do not want to see it tainted with fucking corporate bullshit, just because the owners and suitcoats of the league want some more money in their already fat pockets. Especially from companies that I could care less about. You have corporate logos and advertistements every god damn place in sports already. The court, the entire mechanism that holds the backboard and rim. The ball itself. All the advertisements within the arena. Right underneath the scorers table that is on television nearly the entire time the game is on. Then you have the copious amount of advertisements that are on during the broadcast.

    If it results in less commercials during the broadcast, or even better, reduced tickets, than I can deal with it. But if it doesn't affect the already insane ticket prices, then I have a problem with it. If they're going to subject us to corporate logos that we don't give a shit about jsut to further pound it into our subconscious then I'd like to be given a break on ticket prices so I can afford to attend more than one or two games a season.

    Just like people that miss the days of arenas and stadiums being called something like "The Boston Garden" or "The LA Forum", I will miss the days of uniforms that didn't have corporate logos on them right in your face. The jerseys today have Adidas logos on them, but they are on a tag at the bottom of the jersey. They aren't in plain sight, the only logo that is is the NBA's.

    act_kobe_bryant.jpg

    act_derrick_favors.jpg

    aldridge.jpg

    By the way Dewie, my post isn't attackign you, I'm attacking the idea of putting logos on jerseys. I hate the idea, and as you can tell, I hate it very much. :)


    Tell us how you really feel. :D

    You don't want to hear what I'd have to say to Emperor Stern. :corn:
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  • Newch91Newch91 Posts: 17,560
    dcfaithful wrote:
    dcfaithful wrote:

    I guess I just find it unnecessary. I've been a fan of the NBA since I was a kid and I've always enjoyed a lot of NBA uniforms and do not want to see it tainted with fucking corporate bullshit, just because the owners and suitcoats of the league want some more money in their already fat pockets. Especially from companies that I could care less about. You have corporate logos and advertistements every god damn place in sports already. The court, the entire mechanism that holds the backboard and rim. The ball itself. All the advertisements within the arena. Right underneath the scorers table that is on television nearly the entire time the game is on. Then you have the copious amount of advertisements that are on during the broadcast.

    If it results in less commercials during the broadcast, or even better, reduced tickets, than I can deal with it. But if it doesn't affect the already insane ticket prices, then I have a problem with it. If they're going to subject us to corporate logos that we don't give a shit about jsut to further pound it into our subconscious then I'd like to be given a break on ticket prices so I can afford to attend more than one or two games a season.

    Just like people that miss the days of arenas and stadiums being called something like "The Boston Garden" or "The LA Forum", I will miss the days of uniforms that didn't have corporate logos on them right in your face. The jerseys today have Adidas logos on them, but they are on a tag at the bottom of the jersey. They aren't in plain sight, the only logo that is is the NBA's.

    act_kobe_bryant.jpg

    act_derrick_favors.jpg

    aldridge.jpg

    By the way Dewie, my post isn't attackign you, I'm attacking the idea of putting logos on jerseys. I hate the idea, and as you can tell, I hate it very much. :)


    Tell us how you really feel. :D

    You don't want to hear what I'd have to say to Emperor Stern. :corn:
    Yes we do. :corn:
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    http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow ... 5749.story

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    imalive wrote:
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakersnow/la-sp-ln-matt-barnes-20120731,0,6615749.story

    "trash talk....better for your opponent than for the police" :lol:

    When in Rome.. err, I mean... LA. :P
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    in fairness....there are two logo's on all those jersey's

    :mrgreen:
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