If this isn't sarcasm then I'm wondering if you could answer my inital question (first post). I've yet to find a conservative supporter who is willing to answer that question.
Before I begin, let me ask a question. How many 3-piece suits and Italian loafers do you ever see at a protest?
Answer: NONE. People with money don't protest because they know it's a waste of time and money. Besides, after they vote Conservative, they can get into their fully-paid-for Prius and head over to the Organic Coffee Shoppe and afford themselves a pound of Fair Trade Dark Roast made from beans that ferment in the belly of an endangered wildcat found in the misty mountains of Guatemala which they brew back at their 3000 sq. ft. condo and toast their intelligence and wealth.
There has been no scandal that would make me think a Liberal or NDP government is preferable to a Conservative government. I don't care how many dread-locked peaceniks got their right to protest revoked and thrown in jail during the G8/G20; I don't care WHERE the money came from to hire all the extra police who threw those hippies in the paddy wagons; I ESPECIALLY don't care which Member of Parliament's wife-to-be used to be an escort. Hell, even Bev Oda and the KAIRO funding cuts would have been on page 18 below the cut, and disappeared the next day if the Opposition hadn't already smelled blood.
The Conservatives have been doing their job and have kept Canada running in the black. Are they giving tax cuts to big corporations? ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS ECONOMICS 101. (You notice none of the opposition remember to mention that there's also been over 80 tax cuts for us little guys over the last 3 years, too.) Funding cuts for social programs so we can buy 9 F-35's at $9 BILLION? YES, PLEASE! Having big corporations and a state-of-the-art military keeps Canada as a strong global power, which is needed if we want to keep growing our way of life. I hope that one day we don't need soldiers, but until that day comes, I want the brave men and women who do that job to have the best arsenal available to keep them safe. Don't you?
The Conservatives believe that money earned should be kept in the individual's pocket and that we as individuals are smart enough to spend our own money. In my household, we give to charity on a monthly basis, and it comes right off our paycheck. When we make less money, whether from a tax increase, or our car needing repair, or vet bills, the amount goes down. This is a micro-example of how the Conservative Government works. They will spend everything they can based on how much they have coming in or going out to other places at any given time. When something comes up, like a GLOBAL ECONOMIC RECESSION, plans must change in order to keep the budget balanced. Tough choices are made and funds are cut to LESS essential programs (If ALL programs could be funded, there would be no government. We would be living in a utopia).
I think the Liberals are fairly close to the Conservatives on many points, I'd like to see them staunch that bleeding-heart vein and take a pill to relax all that flip-floppiness. No examples needed. You've stated some past doings in previous posts.
NDP? Fuuuuu--- it's like, dude. We WHAT?!?!? We got a whole county? How are we going to pay for it? Do you accept Canadian Express? NDP is all about the buy buy buy NOW NOW NOW. But ask them how they're going to pick up the check… Now there's a political stonewall NO-ONE could climb over.
I hope I answered your question.
Please vote Conservative on Monday. Then go to your nearest ATM and check your balance. If you voted Conservative, add 15% to your balance. Vote Liberal? Minus 20%. Vote NDP? Burn the bank to the ground. Game over. The mice are running the cheese factory.
"If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit." - Mitch Hedberg
Lone: Wow Nothing would ever make you doubt the cons or vote for another party?
IF another party did what Stephen Harper has done (contempt of parliament, G20 stuff, etc) would you NOT be one of the first people to crucify them? Kind of hypocritical wouldn't you say? That said you are entitled to your opinion.
btw: the only people who's bank accounts will go up under Stephen Harper are those with the fully paid prius, big house, and daily trips to the Organic Coffee shop. You must be pretty well off if your bank account has gone up the last 2 terms cause I can't think of anyone in the middle or working class who can say the same.
Yes he lowered the GST by 2% but he also RAISED personal income tax for the middle class to compensate for that loss of revenue. Robbing Peter to pay Paul. Yes I get the economic reasons for cutting corporate taxes, BUT don't you thing the timing is all wrong?? We're in the worst recession since the great depression a tax cut to the big corporations isn't going to make the rest of the population any more able to afford the BUY from these large corporations. Our dollar is riding high, but I don't see prices going down do you?? They won't with this tax cut either. The taxes were cut before and the corporations took that extra revenue and put it in their pocket....did NOT create new jobs at all. Btw he has to make up that loss of revenue somewhere. Where's he gonna cut? What other tax will he raise this time??? THINK ABOUT IT!!
You can keep your blinders on and vote however you like....just don't come back here and bitch about anything later should Harper get his majority cause you'll get no sympathy here.
I hope you never find yourself out of work, strapped for cash and dependant on the programs Mr. Harper will cut (and Mike Harris already has if you are in surburban Ontario) if he gets his majority. Though with your blind loyalty to this contemptible man I'm inclined to guess you are from Alberta. Am I right?
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yup ... it's that myth of economics ... how the heck are we in the black!?? ... we've got a record defecit!?? ... it's one thing to believe in some reaganomics here but to think we are in the black is just delusional ...
i'm gonna say even odds that dude here works for the conservative gov't in one form or another ...
anyhoo - today is the big day!! ... anything but a harper majority ... please!! ...
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2 call in radio shows I listened to this morning for about 3 hrs were asking listeners to call in with who they voted/voting for...it was either conservative or ndp...interesting...not 1 caller in 3 hours voting liberal. If thats true of the general population that liberal support is down that much then I think the out come of the election depends on how many blue liberals get and vote conservative.
I'm still not convinced about Quebec...in the end they are always more concerned about themselves.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I was wondering does anyone know when they changed the rules to allow polls to be released the day before the election...I could be wrong but I thought at 1 time polls were forbidden a certain number of days before the election.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
2 call in radio shows I listened to this morning for about 3 hrs were asking listeners to call in with who they voted/voting for...it was either conservative or ndp...interesting...not 1 caller in 3 hours voting liberal. If thats true of the general population that liberal support is down that much then I think the out come of the election depends on how many blue liberals get and vote conservative.
I'm still not convinced about Quebec...in the end they are always more concerned about themselves.
not sure on the laws on polling results ...
i think there will be significant change in quebec ... i think quebecers/sovereignists realize the bloc is a useless entity in ottawa ... the fight is in quebec city not ottawa ... they have voted the bloc in because of leftist policies - might as well vote ndp and have the same representation at the federal level ...
we shall see ... it sounds like it'll be an exciting night either way ...
After giving this some serious thought...I can not participate in this election like sheeple...they are all corrupt bullshitters...my parents always taught me to vote for the party that has/will benefit you...in my case that is the Conservatives.
4 reasons why
1. Allows income splitting of pension...will be of great benefit to me at time of retirement, since my wife has no pension.
2. Tax Free Savings Account...of great benefit to me because I have pension so RRSP is not a very good option for myself.
3. Allowed more wireless competition...saving $$$$$ on cell bill
4. Overturned CRTC decision on internet service providers...if decision was allowed to stand I think we'd be paying more for less bandwidth.
But the 1 and 2 are just to big for me to overlook.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
1 more point...there should be the option of none of the above on the ballot, and those who choose not 2 vote have that right...people may not like it...but I know a few people like myself who feel that none of the corrupt bullshitters deserve a vote.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
2 call in radio shows I listened to this morning for about 3 hrs were asking listeners to call in with who they voted/voting for...it was either conservative or ndp...interesting...not 1 caller in 3 hours voting liberal. If thats true of the general population that liberal support is down that much then I think the out come of the election depends on how many blue liberals get and vote conservative.
Could anyone have predicted this when the writ dropped? One thought I can't get out of my brain is that Conservative plus Liberal seats exceeds 155, and the Libs prop them up for the next 2 years while they try to figure out what the hell just happened.
2 call in radio shows I listened to this morning for about 3 hrs were asking listeners to call in with who they voted/voting for...it was either conservative or ndp...interesting...not 1 caller in 3 hours voting liberal. If thats true of the general population that liberal support is down that much then I think the out come of the election depends on how many blue liberals get and vote conservative.
Could anyone have predicted this when the writ dropped? One thought I can't get out of my brain is that Conservative plus Liberal seats exceeds 155, and the Libs prop them up for the next 2 years while they try to figure out what the hell just happened.
You might be right about that. I also read another article on the weekend where the author predicted the Tories with the same amount of seats they have now, the NDP in second and Liberals in third and a the Bloc with major seat loos...he predicted the bloc would prop up the Tories. I tried to find the article...and can not. So who really knows.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
2 call in radio shows I listened to this morning for about 3 hrs were asking listeners to call in with who they voted/voting for...it was either conservative or ndp...interesting...not 1 caller in 3 hours voting liberal. If thats true of the general population that liberal support is down that much then I think the out come of the election depends on how many blue liberals get and vote conservative.
Could anyone have predicted this when the writ dropped? One thought I can't get out of my brain is that Conservative plus Liberal seats exceeds 155, and the Libs prop them up for the next 2 years while they try to figure out what the hell just happened.
You might be right about that. I also read another article on the weekend where the author predicted the Tories with the same amount of seats they have now, the NDP in second and Liberals in third and a the Bloc with major seat loos...he predicted the bloc would prop up the Tories. I tried to find the article...and can not. So who really knows.
To paraphrase, this is why they play the game...at around 11p EDT tonight we'll know the party order, but it'll be weeks (e.g. Throne speech/budget) before we'll know what it really means.
Could anyone have predicted this when the writ dropped? One thought I can't get out of my brain is that Conservative plus Liberal seats exceeds 155, and the Libs prop them up for the next 2 years while they try to figure out what the hell just happened.
You might be right about that. I also read another article on the weekend where the author predicted the Tories with the same amount of seats they have now, the NDP in second and Liberals in third and a the Bloc with major seat loos...he predicted the bloc would prop up the Tories. I tried to find the article...and can not. So who really knows.
To paraphrase, this is why they play the game...at around 11p EDT tonight we'll know the party order, but it'll be weeks (e.g. Throne speech/budget) before we'll know what it really means.
Unless it's a majority...i wouldn't want the governor generals job...I have seen a few analyst on TV stating that the GG will want written confirmation and signatures from parties holding enough seats to hold onto power for probably 24 months...these analyst said that the last time they tried to form a coalition the bloc would not sign, just gave their verbal word...if these analyst are correct and the bloc does not sign, then what would the GG do...he'll have some tough decisions.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
You can :roll: all you want...those first 2 points are major policy, especially for seniors...both those policies benefit my parents and mother and father in law...first government that has gave them a real break...both are saving money and have a more comfortable retirement. If you think we should all pay more to support more social programs...you can pay more in tax yourself, file your return and refuse any refund...I'm sure the government will not force you 2 take you refund .
As for voting...people can choose to protest any way they want...Ontario had a protest vote...we got Rae...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
You can :roll: all you want...those first 2 points are major policy, especially for seniors...both those policies benefit my parents and mother and father in law...first government that has gave them a real break...both are saving money and have a more comfortable retirement. If you think we should all pay more to support more social programs...you can pay more in tax yourself, file your return and refuse any refund...I'm sure the government will not force you 2 take you refund .
As for voting...people can choose to protest any way they want...Ontario had a protest vote...we got Rae...
first of all ... my parents taught me to not think solely of myself in life ... so, we have two different value systems ...
secondly ... can you tell me how your two major points are different under the NDP? ...
thirdly ... you seem to label all the parties as equally corrupt which is absolutely absurd ... how are the NDP anywhere close to as corrupt as the Conservatives?? ...
fourthly ... i suspect that you have always wanted to vote conservative which was why i was shocked to read the things you posted the last few weeks ... i don't think its possible to defend a vote for the conservatives unless as you say - the only person you care about is yourself and your family ... 3 conservative voters i know (who vote conservative in EVERY election) will be voting Green today because under no circumstances can one reward the corruption and attack on democracy that exists in Ottawa ... sadly ... you will reward them ...
and lastly ... no hockey team ever won a stanley cup with players playing for themselves only ... it takes teamwork and a cohesive unit to fight for a common good and everyone playing their part ... i believe society is similar ...
You can :roll: all you want...those first 2 points are major policy, especially for seniors...both those policies benefit my parents and mother and father in law...first government that has gave them a real break...both are saving money and have a more comfortable retirement. If you think we should all pay more to support more social programs...you can pay more in tax yourself, file your return and refuse any refund...I'm sure the government will not force you 2 take you refund .
As for voting...people can choose to protest any way they want...Ontario had a protest vote...we got Rae...
first of all ... my parents taught me to not think solely of myself in life ... so, we have two different value systems ...
secondly ... can you tell me how your two major points are different under the NDP? ...
thirdly ... you seem to label all the parties as equally corrupt which is absolutely absurd ... how are the NDP anywhere close to as corrupt as the Conservatives?? ...
fourthly ... i suspect that you have always wanted to vote conservative which was why i was shocked to read the things you posted the last few weeks ... i don't think its possible to defend a vote for the conservatives unless as you say - the only person you care about is yourself and your family ... 3 conservative voters i know (who vote conservative in EVERY election) will be voting Green today because under no circumstances can one reward the corruption and attack on democracy that exists in Ottawa ... sadly ... you will reward them ...
and lastly ... no hockey team ever won a stanley cup with players playing for themselves only ... it takes teamwork and a cohesive unit to fight for a common good and everyone playing their part ... i believe society is similar ...
So where in the Jack Layton platform has he mentioned TFSA or Pension Splitting.
My parents raised me just fine and are outstanding people...you me not like to hear this they taught me not to depend on the government.
As for Layton...1 thing tells me what kind of government we'll get, capping inymterest rates on credit cards...do not use them if you can't afford them...another nanny politician.
I never said they were equally corrupt...i said they were all corrupt bullshitters who won't get my vote.
I also don't label myself...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The hockey analogy is kind of bad...those on a team consider themselves family so there for arwme working for the good of their extended family on the team... I doubt any are overly concerned about any winning it all but themselves...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
So where in the Jack Layton platform has he mentioned TFSA or Pension Splitting.
My parents raised me just fine and are outstanding people...you me not like to hear this they taught me not to depend on the government.
As for Layton...1 thing tells me what kind of government we'll get, capping inymterest rates on credit cards...do not use them if you can't afford them...another nanny politician.
I never said they were equally corrupt...i said they were all corrupt bullshitters who won't get my vote.
I also don't label myself...
the tfsa was brought about in a minority gov't ... granted the ndp would not double the allotment which would only benefit the rich ... and you can read the ndp's platform on pensions which is a major platform issue for them ... and this is something on conservatives and pensions ...
i'm not saying your parents aren't fine people ... all i'm saying is that we were raised with different values ... it's the me vs. we thing again ... it has nothing to do with relying on gov't ... i believe what is good for the whole is good for me ... you are vice-versa ... which again is why i am not shocked to hear you go back to the conservatives ...
and again - you may not like the ndp ideology ... based on your historical posts and the ones today, i'm not surprised ... but all your comments on corruption and democracy are really hot air now ... the conservatives are by far the most corrupt and i'm sure you are one of the ones that will never let the liberals forget their corruptness but you will now reward the conservatives for theirs ...
The hockey analogy is kind of bad...those on a team consider themselves family so there for arwme working for the good of their extended family on the team... I doubt any are overly concerned about any winning it all but themselves...
not really ... imagine if everyone wanted to play on the PP and get the most ice time ... imagine a team that had guys taking extra long shifts ... that's a team with players playing for themselves ... a good team has players who make sacrifices ... guys who block shots ... guys who go into the corners ... guys who stand in front of the net and get cross-checked ... those guys make sacrifices for the good of the team and put their own stats/health below that of the team ...
For one...i'm not voting conservative...i said their all corrupt bullshitters, and will not get my vote. It's cumulation of all parties going back to at least Mulroney is whats formed my opinion that their all corrupt...don't how you figure I am voting conservative...all said was if I was voting, and stated why. I for one have stated that all parties have usable ideas.
As for hockey a team is a family...and those players are only working for each not the good of the league which i guess is the country.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
For one...i'm not voting conservative...i said their all corrupt bullshitters, and will not get my vote. It's cumulation of all parties going back to at least Mulroney is whats formed my opinion that their all corrupt...don't how you figure I am voting conservative...all said was if I was voting, and stated why. I for one have stated that all parties have usable ideas.
As for hockey a team is a family...and those players are only working for each not the good of the league which i guess is the country.
i see now that i misread and thought you were voting conservative ... i take my :roll: back and apologize for misreading your post ... the thought of someone voting conservative is troubling to me and it caused me to read improperly ... ... at least that's my excuse and i'm sticking with it ...
i hear what you are saying ... i didn't vote ndp either and utlimately, i was allowed to vote for who i really wanted ... if i were you - i would go anyways if the line isn't too long and just write in NONE of the ABOVE or yoda .. whatever works for you ...
As for hockey a team is a family...and those players are only working for each not the good of the league which i guess is the country.
i take the team to be the country ... everyone making sacrifices ... not thinking of their won stats for the good of the team ...
even if we took the league to be the country ... it still requires sacrifices by each team in order for the league to survive ... that's means a salary cap and collective bargaining agreements ... it's why players pay into pensions ... etc ... it's why we have league minimum salaries ...
Poor analogy comparing millionaire hockey players to the rest of society...
ok ... take any example you want ... i am pretty sure ... working together and putting the wants/needs of the whole will always outshine a society that places personal wants/needs above others ...
i'll give you another example ... 20 people get stranded on an island ... 10 people decide to work together to gather food, shelter, water ... 10 people go it alone ... which 10 you think will survive the longest?
Poor analogy comparing millionaire hockey players to the rest of society...
ok ... take any example you want ... i am pretty sure ... working together and putting the wants/needs of the whole will always outshine a society that places personal wants/needs above others ...
i'll give you another example ... 20 people get stranded on an island ... 10 people decide to work together to gather food, shelter, water ... 10 people go it alone ... which 10 you think will survive the longest?
Terrible example. There's no political context. No political party is asking you to go it alone. If anything, the Conservatives are the ones working together. We would be happy if everyone would work with us, it would make the island so much stronger, but we're not going to force you to participate, and we're also not going to give you what we gather, just because you're on the island with us. So stop crying, cut that thing into a halter-top and start shammying down my coconut-tree yacht!
"If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit." - Mitch Hedberg
Terrible example. There's no political context. No political party is asking you to go it alone. If anything, the Conservatives are the ones working together. We would be happy if everyone would work with us, it would make the island so much stronger, but we're not going to force you to participate, and we're also not going to give you what we gather, just because you're on the island with us. So stop crying, cut that thing into a halter-top and start shammying down my coconut-tree yacht!
uhhh ... that's what an analogy is about ... :?
do you work for the conservative party?? ... it would appear so as you stick to talking points that sound like the conservative script ... no foundation ... just the same old points that have no foundation ...
in any case ... sadly - a congratulations is in order i fear as the vote-split and the undemocratic voting system will give your party the majority it so wants ...
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Answer: NONE. People with money don't protest because they know it's a waste of time and money. Besides, after they vote Conservative, they can get into their fully-paid-for Prius and head over to the Organic Coffee Shoppe and afford themselves a pound of Fair Trade Dark Roast made from beans that ferment in the belly of an endangered wildcat found in the misty mountains of Guatemala which they brew back at their 3000 sq. ft. condo and toast their intelligence and wealth.
There has been no scandal that would make me think a Liberal or NDP government is preferable to a Conservative government. I don't care how many dread-locked peaceniks got their right to protest revoked and thrown in jail during the G8/G20; I don't care WHERE the money came from to hire all the extra police who threw those hippies in the paddy wagons; I ESPECIALLY don't care which Member of Parliament's wife-to-be used to be an escort. Hell, even Bev Oda and the KAIRO funding cuts would have been on page 18 below the cut, and disappeared the next day if the Opposition hadn't already smelled blood.
The Conservatives have been doing their job and have kept Canada running in the black. Are they giving tax cuts to big corporations? ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS ECONOMICS 101. (You notice none of the opposition remember to mention that there's also been over 80 tax cuts for us little guys over the last 3 years, too.) Funding cuts for social programs so we can buy 9 F-35's at $9 BILLION? YES, PLEASE! Having big corporations and a state-of-the-art military keeps Canada as a strong global power, which is needed if we want to keep growing our way of life. I hope that one day we don't need soldiers, but until that day comes, I want the brave men and women who do that job to have the best arsenal available to keep them safe. Don't you?
The Conservatives believe that money earned should be kept in the individual's pocket and that we as individuals are smart enough to spend our own money. In my household, we give to charity on a monthly basis, and it comes right off our paycheck. When we make less money, whether from a tax increase, or our car needing repair, or vet bills, the amount goes down. This is a micro-example of how the Conservative Government works. They will spend everything they can based on how much they have coming in or going out to other places at any given time. When something comes up, like a GLOBAL ECONOMIC RECESSION, plans must change in order to keep the budget balanced. Tough choices are made and funds are cut to LESS essential programs (If ALL programs could be funded, there would be no government. We would be living in a utopia).
I think the Liberals are fairly close to the Conservatives on many points, I'd like to see them staunch that bleeding-heart vein and take a pill to relax all that flip-floppiness. No examples needed. You've stated some past doings in previous posts.
NDP? Fuuuuu--- it's like, dude. We WHAT?!?!? We got a whole county? How are we going to pay for it? Do you accept Canadian Express? NDP is all about the buy buy buy NOW NOW NOW. But ask them how they're going to pick up the check… Now there's a political stonewall NO-ONE could climb over.
I hope I answered your question.
Please vote Conservative on Monday. Then go to your nearest ATM and check your balance. If you voted Conservative, add 15% to your balance. Vote Liberal? Minus 20%. Vote NDP? Burn the bank to the ground. Game over. The mice are running the cheese factory.
IF another party did what Stephen Harper has done (contempt of parliament, G20 stuff, etc) would you NOT be one of the first people to crucify them? Kind of hypocritical wouldn't you say? That said you are entitled to your opinion.
btw: the only people who's bank accounts will go up under Stephen Harper are those with the fully paid prius, big house, and daily trips to the Organic Coffee shop. You must be pretty well off if your bank account has gone up the last 2 terms cause I can't think of anyone in the middle or working class who can say the same.
Yes he lowered the GST by 2% but he also RAISED personal income tax for the middle class to compensate for that loss of revenue. Robbing Peter to pay Paul. Yes I get the economic reasons for cutting corporate taxes, BUT don't you thing the timing is all wrong?? We're in the worst recession since the great depression a tax cut to the big corporations isn't going to make the rest of the population any more able to afford the BUY from these large corporations. Our dollar is riding high, but I don't see prices going down do you?? They won't with this tax cut either. The taxes were cut before and the corporations took that extra revenue and put it in their pocket....did NOT create new jobs at all. Btw he has to make up that loss of revenue somewhere. Where's he gonna cut? What other tax will he raise this time??? THINK ABOUT IT!!
You can keep your blinders on and vote however you like....just don't come back here and bitch about anything later should Harper get his majority cause you'll get no sympathy here.
I hope you never find yourself out of work, strapped for cash and dependant on the programs Mr. Harper will cut (and Mike Harris already has if you are in surburban Ontario) if he gets his majority. Though with your blind loyalty to this contemptible man I'm inclined to guess you are from Alberta. Am I right?
i'm gonna say even odds that dude here works for the conservative gov't in one form or another ...
anyhoo - today is the big day!! ... anything but a harper majority ... please!! ...
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I'm still not convinced about Quebec...in the end they are always more concerned about themselves.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
not sure on the laws on polling results ...
i think there will be significant change in quebec ... i think quebecers/sovereignists realize the bloc is a useless entity in ottawa ... the fight is in quebec city not ottawa ... they have voted the bloc in because of leftist policies - might as well vote ndp and have the same representation at the federal level ...
we shall see ... it sounds like it'll be an exciting night either way ...
4 reasons why
1. Allows income splitting of pension...will be of great benefit to me at time of retirement, since my wife has no pension.
2. Tax Free Savings Account...of great benefit to me because I have pension so RRSP is not a very good option for myself.
3. Allowed more wireless competition...saving $$$$$ on cell bill
4. Overturned CRTC decision on internet service providers...if decision was allowed to stand I think we'd be paying more for less bandwidth.
But the 1 and 2 are just to big for me to overlook.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Could anyone have predicted this when the writ dropped? One thought I can't get out of my brain is that Conservative plus Liberal seats exceeds 155, and the Libs prop them up for the next 2 years while they try to figure out what the hell just happened.
You might be right about that. I also read another article on the weekend where the author predicted the Tories with the same amount of seats they have now, the NDP in second and Liberals in third and a the Bloc with major seat loos...he predicted the bloc would prop up the Tories. I tried to find the article...and can not. So who really knows.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
To paraphrase, this is why they play the game...at around 11p EDT tonight we'll know the party order, but it'll be weeks (e.g. Throne speech/budget) before we'll know what it really means.
Unless it's a majority...i wouldn't want the governor generals job...I have seen a few analyst on TV stating that the GG will want written confirmation and signatures from parties holding enough seats to hold onto power for probably 24 months...these analyst said that the last time they tried to form a coalition the bloc would not sign, just gave their verbal word...if these analyst are correct and the bloc does not sign, then what would the GG do...he'll have some tough decisions.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
You can :roll: all you want...those first 2 points are major policy, especially for seniors...both those policies benefit my parents and mother and father in law...first government that has gave them a real break...both are saving money and have a more comfortable retirement. If you think we should all pay more to support more social programs...you can pay more in tax yourself, file your return and refuse any refund...I'm sure the government will not force you 2 take you refund
As for voting...people can choose to protest any way they want...Ontario had a protest vote...we got Rae...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
first of all ... my parents taught me to not think solely of myself in life ... so, we have two different value systems ...
secondly ... can you tell me how your two major points are different under the NDP? ...
thirdly ... you seem to label all the parties as equally corrupt which is absolutely absurd ... how are the NDP anywhere close to as corrupt as the Conservatives?? ...
fourthly ... i suspect that you have always wanted to vote conservative which was why i was shocked to read the things you posted the last few weeks ... i don't think its possible to defend a vote for the conservatives unless as you say - the only person you care about is yourself and your family ... 3 conservative voters i know (who vote conservative in EVERY election) will be voting Green today because under no circumstances can one reward the corruption and attack on democracy that exists in Ottawa ... sadly ... you will reward them ...
and lastly ... no hockey team ever won a stanley cup with players playing for themselves only ... it takes teamwork and a cohesive unit to fight for a common good and everyone playing their part ... i believe society is similar ...
So where in the Jack Layton platform has he mentioned TFSA or Pension Splitting.
My parents raised me just fine and are outstanding people...you me not like to hear this they taught me not to depend on the government.
As for Layton...1 thing tells me what kind of government we'll get, capping inymterest rates on credit cards...do not use them if you can't afford them...another nanny politician.
I never said they were equally corrupt...i said they were all corrupt bullshitters who won't get my vote.
I also don't label myself...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
the tfsa was brought about in a minority gov't ... granted the ndp would not double the allotment which would only benefit the rich ... and you can read the ndp's platform on pensions which is a major platform issue for them ... and this is something on conservatives and pensions ...
http://www.canadianlabour.ca/news-room/ ... cpp-reform
i'm not saying your parents aren't fine people ... all i'm saying is that we were raised with different values ... it's the me vs. we thing again ... it has nothing to do with relying on gov't ... i believe what is good for the whole is good for me ... you are vice-versa ... which again is why i am not shocked to hear you go back to the conservatives ...
and again - you may not like the ndp ideology ... based on your historical posts and the ones today, i'm not surprised ... but all your comments on corruption and democracy are really hot air now ... the conservatives are by far the most corrupt and i'm sure you are one of the ones that will never let the liberals forget their corruptness but you will now reward the conservatives for theirs ...
not really ... imagine if everyone wanted to play on the PP and get the most ice time ... imagine a team that had guys taking extra long shifts ... that's a team with players playing for themselves ... a good team has players who make sacrifices ... guys who block shots ... guys who go into the corners ... guys who stand in front of the net and get cross-checked ... those guys make sacrifices for the good of the team and put their own stats/health below that of the team ...
As for hockey a team is a family...and those players are only working for each not the good of the league which i guess is the country.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
i see now that i misread and thought you were voting conservative ... i take my :roll: back and apologize for misreading your post ... the thought of someone voting conservative is troubling to me and it caused me to read improperly ...
i hear what you are saying ... i didn't vote ndp either and utlimately, i was allowed to vote for who i really wanted ... if i were you - i would go anyways if the line isn't too long and just write in NONE of the ABOVE or yoda .. whatever works for you ...
i take the team to be the country ... everyone making sacrifices ... not thinking of their won stats for the good of the team ...
even if we took the league to be the country ... it still requires sacrifices by each team in order for the league to survive ... that's means a salary cap and collective bargaining agreements ... it's why players pay into pensions ... etc ... it's why we have league minimum salaries ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
ok ... take any example you want ... i am pretty sure ... working together and putting the wants/needs of the whole will always outshine a society that places personal wants/needs above others ...
i'll give you another example ... 20 people get stranded on an island ... 10 people decide to work together to gather food, shelter, water ... 10 people go it alone ... which 10 you think will survive the longest?
Terrible example. There's no political context. No political party is asking you to go it alone. If anything, the Conservatives are the ones working together. We would be happy if everyone would work with us, it would make the island so much stronger, but we're not going to force you to participate, and we're also not going to give you what we gather, just because you're on the island with us. So stop crying, cut that thing into a halter-top and start shammying down my coconut-tree yacht!
the election is done before they even count our votes in BC.
uhhh ... that's what an analogy is about ... :?
do you work for the conservative party?? ... it would appear so as you stick to talking points that sound like the conservative script ... no foundation ... just the same old points that have no foundation ...
in any case ... sadly - a congratulations is in order i fear as the vote-split and the undemocratic voting system will give your party the majority it so wants ...