How much do you tip?

Kel Varnsen

markymark550 wrote:

dunkman wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

so i guess this is the 2011 tip thread then?

i prefer 2007's

shit Juggles you must have a good memory... they all merge into one for me... basically 3 europeans trying to explain our system to 47 americans who are getting angrier and angrier by the second because they can't comprehend our dislike of the US system...

I live in the US and I dislike the US system, but it's the system in place so I have to live and deal with it. If I knew that service wouldn't suffer, I'd be 100% in favor of waitstaff having a salary of at least minimum wage. However, I think service would suffer tremendously. Those servers that are good and can earn a lot of tips would lose a lot of income and would be less motivated to do well at their job. The servers who already don't do their job well would just have more incentive to remain crappy at their job. Why give more effort if you know you're getting a decent salary anyways. Just a lose-lose situation imo.

That's why I don't mind the tipping system since it gives me some control in the price of my meal. If the service sucks it costs me less than if the service is good. If there were no tips then the price of a meal would go up across the board to pay for waiters salaries.

That said when I was in London England a few years ago I went to a ton of pubs and loved the system there. Order your food at the bar, when you get your drinks and pay then. They give you a little number card and when your food is ready the bartender brings it to your table. Other than that moment there is no actual table service, and you don't have to tip. It was awesome, and actually super fast. Plus it meant that the pub only needed to have a couple of bartenders on staff rather than a bunch of waiters.

Kel Varnsen

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Kel Varnsen wrote:

JonnyPistachio wrote:

Everyone should remember that servers often get like $2-3 bucks an hour and DEPEND on your tips.

On the flip side the average restuarant bill is probably what $30? So if a decent waiter is handling 4 tables an hour, even if they are getting 10% they are still making an extra 12 bucks an hour on top of that. If everyone tips 20% the waiter is making 24 bucks an hour plus their salary just to write down orders and bring people food.

That is very true, but they also often work 6-7 hour shifts where is is only busy for two hours. So that average goes down after the dinner or lunch rush is over. Then they are required to roll siverware, stock supplies, clean their areas, etc.. SO they make 24 bucks an hour for two hours, then maybe 5-15 the off hours. Come off a 7 hour shift with under 90 bucks isnt that great. Then there are Monday shifts where its not busy at all.

But even 90 bucks for a 7 hour shift is still around $12.60 an hour for taking orders and bringing people food. Seems like a pretty awesome wage to me for a job that requires no formal education.

RKCNDY

markymark550 wrote:

dunkman wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

so i guess this is the 2011 tip thread then?

i prefer 2007's

shit Juggles you must have a good memory... they all merge into one for me... basically 3 europeans trying to explain our system to 47 americans who are getting angrier and angrier by the second because they can't comprehend our dislike of the US system...

I live in the US and I dislike the US system, but it's the system in place so I have to live and deal with it. If I knew that service wouldn't suffer, I'd be 100% in favor of waitstaff having a salary of at least minimum wage. However, I think service would suffer tremendously. Those servers that are good and can earn a lot of tips would lose a lot of income and would be less motivated to do well at their job. The servers who already don't do their job well would just have more incentive to remain crappy at their job. Why give more effort if you know you're getting a decent salary anyways. Just a lose-lose situation imo.

there are still places that don't pay the waitstaff minimum wage? Last I remember hearing about it was in the south...they got paid something like $3-4/hr and the rest was tips...thought they changed that.
Here in Washington our minimum wage is the highest in the country...$8.67/hr, and most restaurants pay $9-10/hr+tips. Usually it's the coffee girls or small cafes that pay minimum wage.

he.who.forgets

before graduating college all i ever really did was wait tables at a variety of restaurants from BBQ joints to cafes to nice expensive restuarants. I never received any more than $2.15 per hour, granted that I'm sure that wage has increased a little over the last 8 years. I'll tell you what though, while waiting tables does not require any formal education; it can be a very demanding job. Believe it or not it can be very stressful if you are in the weeds...you stress b/c your pay depends on the service you are providing. And a lot of times your service appears to be shitty when really it's the fault of the kitchen (fucking up orders or simply taking way too long). Well even it it's not your fault, your tips usually suffer. And you'd be fucking shocked at how poorly some people tip. You also have to deal with some extremely rude people. I tip no less than 20% wherever I go unless the service is noticably very bad.

acoustic guy

At least 20 % always....I never have REAL bad service. if I did then ok it depends but nromakl service 20 %.

Phantom Pain

ms. wes c.addle wrote:

This is why I love my profession.

Men are pigs and can be easily turned-on. I am not above (or below) wearing nice perfume and low-cut tops to earn my keep. The men that opt for a wash and massage are in for a treat- I find that if I can get them to moan a bit, I've done my job. Momma needs a new pair o' shoes...
Plus the fact that I can shoot the shit with them and not be a pretentious dumbfuck helps.

As for women, they all want to be complimented, and some, flirted with.

My men are amazing tippers!

It Moved..

81

sooo....

lets say you go out to dinner to two different places on two different nights.

night 1 @ Outback, bill is $50 tip @ 20% is $10
night 2 @ Gibsons, bill is $125 tip @ 20% is $25

serivce was equal.

why is the Gibson dinner tip more?

RKCNDY

81 wrote:

sooo....

lets say you go out to dinner to two different places on two different nights.

night 1 @ Outback, bill is $50 tip @ 20% is $10
night 2 @ Gibsons, bill is $125 tip @ 20% is $25

serivce was equal.

why is the Gibson dinner tip more?

because Gibson's food costs twice as much...is the food any better? (and what is Gibsons?)

81

RKCNDY wrote:

81 wrote:

sooo....

lets say you go out to dinner to two different places on two different nights.

night 1 @ Outback, bill is $50 tip @ 20% is $10
night 2 @ Gibsons, bill is $125 tip @ 20% is $25

serivce was equal.

why is the Gibson dinner tip more?

because Gibson's food costs twice as much...is the food any better? (and what is Gibsons?)

Gibsons is a high end steak house, 125 would be cheap there.

here is the menu
http://www.gibsonssteakhouse.com/pdf/Gi ... Dinner.pdf

but the point is.....

both servers stopped by, took your drink orders, delivered drinks, took order, delievered food, refilled drinks and checked on food quality, brought check.

both servers were equally compentent and did an equal job. why does the second one get $15 more for doing the same work?

Ms. Wes C.addle

Phantom Pain wrote:

ms. wes c.addle wrote:

This is why I love my profession.

Men are pigs and can be easily turned-on. I am not above (or below) wearing nice perfume and low-cut tops to earn my keep. The men that opt for a wash and massage are in for a treat- I find that if I can get them to moan a bit, I've done my job. Momma needs a new pair o' shoes...
Plus the fact that I can shoot the shit with them and not be a pretentious dumbfuck helps.

As for women, they all want to be complimented, and some, flirted with.

My men are amazing tippers!

It Moved..

Prime example

RKCNDY

81 wrote:

Gibsons is a high end steak house, 125 would be cheap there.

here is the menu
http://www.gibsonssteakhouse.com/pdf/Gi ... Dinner.pdf

but the point is.....

both servers stopped by, took your drink orders, delivered drinks, took order, delievered food, refilled drinks and checked on food quality, brought check.

both servers were equally compentent and did an equal job. why does the second one get $15 more for doing the same work?

I get it...prob for the same reason that the same goober working at Macy's gets paid more than the goober working at Target, they both stock clothes and clean the dressing rooms...and the guy at Gibsons prob has to learn how to cork the wine and all that other fancy shmancy stuff. Been to nice restuarants and they tend to fawn over you a little more than the Outback guy.

JonnyPistachio

81 wrote:

RKCNDY wrote:

81 wrote:

sooo....

lets say you go out to dinner to two different places on two different nights.

night 1 @ Outback, bill is $50 tip @ 20% is $10
night 2 @ Gibsons, bill is $125 tip @ 20% is $25

serivce was equal.

why is the Gibson dinner tip more?

because Gibson's food costs twice as much...is the food any better? (and what is Gibsons?)

Gibsons is a high end steak house, 125 would be cheap there.

here is the menu
http://www.gibsonssteakhouse.com/pdf/Gi ... Dinner.pdf

but the point is.....

both servers stopped by, took your drink orders, delivered drinks, took order, delievered food, refilled drinks and checked on food quality, brought check.

both servers were equally compentent and did an equal job. why does the second one get $15 more for doing the same work?

Very good point. But i'll bet that guy at Gibsons has to wear a silly bow-tie.

81

i'm going to a $10 flat rate.

or maybe $1 per person per table visit

he.who.forgets

81 wrote:

sooo....

lets say you go out to dinner to two different places on two different nights.

night 1 @ Outback, bill is $50 tip @ 20% is $10
night 2 @ Gibsons, bill is $125 tip @ 20% is $25

serivce was equal.

why is the Gibson dinner tip more?

You have to work your way up to wait tables at fancy joints like that. A buddy of mine started washing dishes and took like 18 months to finally wait tables at Ruth's Chris. Dishwasher, kitchen help, bus boy, host, food runner, then finally waiter

MayDay10

I usually tip about 20-25%.

if the service is exceptionally bad, I will tip very low. It takes a lot of failure to accomplish that though.
If the service/experience is exceptionally great, I will tip even more generously.

norm

dunkman wrote:

Worst ever experience I've had was in a Hooters in Florida... the waitress couldnt give one fucking shit that we were there and that we wanted more drinks... why? cos she had 5 guys fawning all over her and she was obviously whoring herself out for a bigger tip than me... well she got it... cos i left her absolutely fucking nothing.

you came all the way from Scotland and went to a hooters? you should get bad service

RKCNDY

norm wrote:

dunkman wrote:

Worst ever experience I've had was in a Hooters in Florida... the waitress couldnt give one fucking shit that we were there and that we wanted more drinks... why? cos she had 5 guys fawning all over her and she was obviously whoring herself out for a bigger tip than me... well she got it... cos i left her absolutely fucking nothing.

you came all the way from Scotland and went to a hooters? you should get bad service

Hooters always has crap service. Went there with some friends because they wanted to go and were too scared to go by themselves (I don't know why). After an hour the manager comes by...'how was your meal?' I said, 'Well I hope it's pretty damn good since we haven't even got a chance to order yet'. He just walked away, and then 20 minutes later some girl comes by, does not even give a half ass excuse. My tab was $14.63, and I left her $15.
I wanted to leave, but my friends were so insistent on eating there. That Hooters got shut down for bad service a few months later.

norm

RKCNDY wrote:

norm wrote:

dunkman wrote:

Worst ever experience I've had was in a Hooters in Florida... the waitress couldnt give one fucking shit that we were there and that we wanted more drinks... why? cos she had 5 guys fawning all over her and she was obviously whoring herself out for a bigger tip than me... well she got it... cos i left her absolutely fucking nothing.

you came all the way from Scotland and went to a hooters? you should get bad service

Hooters always has crap service. Went there with some friends because they wanted to go and were too scared to go by themselves (I don't know why). After an hour the manager comes by...'how was your meal?' I said, 'Well I hope it's pretty damn good since we haven't even got a chance to order yet'. He just walked away, and then 20 minutes later some girl comes by, does not even give a half ass excuse. My tab was $14.63, and I left her $15.
I wanted to leave, but my friends were so insistent on eating there. That Hooters got shut down for bad service a few months later.

i've never set foot in a hooters...besides quasi-attractive women in hot pants and push up bras, what is the appeal? i've never heard anything good about the food and it seems like the service is just as bad

Kel Varnsen

he.who.forgets wrote:

before graduating college all i ever really did was wait tables at a variety of restaurants from BBQ joints to cafes to nice expensive restuarants. I never received any more than $2.15 per hour, granted that I'm sure that wage has increased a little over the last 8 years. I'll tell you what though, while waiting tables does not require any formal education; it can be a very demanding job. Believe it or not it can be very stressful if you are in the weeds...you stress b/c your pay depends on the service you are providing. And a lot of times your service appears to be shitty when really it's the fault of the kitchen (fucking up orders or simply taking way too long). Well even it it's not your fault, your tips usually suffer. And you'd be fucking shocked at how poorly some people tip. You also have to deal with some extremely rude people. I tip no less than 20% wherever I go unless the service is noticably very bad.

Your pay depends on the service you are providing so sure sometimes it sucks when it is slow, but at the same time you have potential to make a ton of money. This is why I imagine a lot of people decide to be waiters. I mean if you prefer a steady guaranteed hourly salary that is higher, there is always retail or fast food.

81

hooters blows....well, hooters are nice, but the eatery blows.