The Official 2011 Toronto Blue Jay (2013-14 Champs)

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  • MrMerkinball
    MrMerkinball Posts: 1,978
    The Yanks, Sox and Rays all are missing key parts. We get Santos back in 2 weeks. I think, we are a First Basemen away from the playoffs. I just think that Lind is a black hole of offense in the #4 spot. In the AL, you have to have a big bat at first.

    I haven’t read this anywhere, so there is no basis for it, but perhaps the jays could pick up Konerko.

    The white Sox are paying him 12 million, this year and next year
    He intends to retire after the 2013 season
    The white Sox are not going to compete this year or next – (they said themselves they are re-building)
    You may get him for a couple of rookies…and Lind
    AA and Kenny Williams have already connected on a deal or two.
  • tvismyfriend
    tvismyfriend Posts: 2,118
    MrMerkinball wrote:
    The Yanks, Sox and Rays all are missing key parts. We get Santos back in 2 weeks. I think, we are a First Basemen away from the playoffs. I just think that Lind is a black hole of offense in the #4 spot. In the AL, you have to have a big bat at first.

    I haven’t read this anywhere, so there is no basis for it, but perhaps the jays could pick up Konerko.

    The white Sox are paying him 12 million, this year and next year
    He intends to retire after the 2013 season
    The white Sox are not going to compete this year or next – (they said themselves they are re-building)
    You may get him for a couple of rookies…and Lind
    AA and Kenny Williams have already connected on a deal or two.
    The only problem with that is Konerko should have 10 and 5 rights and he might not want to come to Toronto.
  • smarchee
    smarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    1. Romero
    2. Morrow
    3. Alvarez
    4. Drabek

    this front 4 could be the best in the AL shortly
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
  • uninnocent-
    uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    The Jays have signed Vladimir Guerrero to a minor league deal. I guess that they are giving warning to Lind, either he shapes up or Encarnacion takes first base and Vlad takes over as the designated bat.
  • kenshunt
    kenshunt London, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,863
    vlad did hit .290 last year which would be highest average on the team right now
    London 2005
    Toronto 2011 night 2
    Hamilton 2011
    London 2013
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    i do think this team lacks some veteran leadership ... one that plays ... i'm sure omar is a good influence and if the amount of double plays this team has turned has been influenced by him - all the better ...

    what to do about lind/bautista? ... bautista is up there guessing ...
  • uninnocent-
    uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    I have no idea what to think of Bautista's slump this season. He had two and a half seasons of great numbers (though his average did take a dive in the second half last year), so he can't just be a flash-in-the-pan player. He's got the skill, but I have a tough time figuring out what can get this guy going.

    As for Lind, well he's on his last legs now. The team can't afford to have a corner infielder not producing at the plate.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    uninnocent- wrote:
    I have no idea what to think of Bautista's slump this season. He had two and a half seasons of great numbers (though his average did take a dive in the second half last year), so he can't just be a flash-in-the-pan player. He's got the skill, but I have a tough time figuring out what can get this guy going.

    As for Lind, well he's on his last legs now. The team can't afford to have a corner infielder not producing at the plate.

    it seems that both those guys just don't want to take what's given to them ... no shame in hitting opposite field singles ... bautista seems like he's trying to hit home runs every at bat ... what is really troubling is his approach with 2 strikes ...
  • uninnocent-
    uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    polaris_x wrote:
    uninnocent- wrote:
    I have no idea what to think of Bautista's slump this season. He had two and a half seasons of great numbers (though his average did take a dive in the second half last year), so he can't just be a flash-in-the-pan player. He's got the skill, but I have a tough time figuring out what can get this guy going.

    As for Lind, well he's on his last legs now. The team can't afford to have a corner infielder not producing at the plate.

    it seems that both those guys just don't want to take what's given to them ... no shame in hitting opposite field singles ... bautista seems like he's trying to hit home runs every at bat ... what is really troubling is his approach with 2 strikes ...

    And he seems to always taking the first-pitch strike. If he swung the bat at those fastballs down the middle, he might have a better average.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    uninnocent- wrote:
    And he seems to always taking the first-pitch strike. If he swung the bat at those fastballs down the middle, he might have a better average.

    proof he is guessing ... he should be given a night off like pujols ... he's definitely starting to press way too much ...
  • uninnocent-
    uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    polaris_x wrote:
    uninnocent- wrote:
    And he seems to always taking the first-pitch strike. If he swung the bat at those fastballs down the middle, he might have a better average.

    proof he is guessing ... he should be given a night off like pujols ... he's definitely starting to press way too much ...
    Oh he should absolutely be given a night off. If a player's not producing it's only natural that you bench him.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,075
    First big trade talk comes out of Toronto. Although I am sure it has about zero percent of happening, it sounds like the Jays have had some type of conversation with the Phillies about Victorino and/or Hamels.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    First big trade talk comes out of Toronto. Although I am sure it has about zero percent of happening, it sounds like the Jays have had some type of conversation with the Phillies about Victorino and/or Hamels.

    I don't see them going for both but i could see them going for Victorino depending on what the phillies want in return
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,075
    fife wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    First big trade talk comes out of Toronto. Although I am sure it has about zero percent of happening, it sounds like the Jays have had some type of conversation with the Phillies about Victorino and/or Hamels.

    I don't see them going for both but i could see them going for Victorino depending on what the phillies want in return

    Agreed, I can't see them going for Hamels. It would take too much and unless they are right there and have a chance to win it all this year, it's pointless since they won't pay him. Would imagine this is a ways off though and is all dependent on what happens with the Phillies over the next couple months.
  • uninnocent-
    uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    I'm sure AA is working the phones with all the other GMs in the league. This is just the one that got leaked. I wouldn't mind either player, but ultimately I agree that the price on Hamels would be too dear for the short-term success he'd give the team.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    trades with AA don't usually get leaked ... i would put this as a fraud lead aimed at an ulterior motive ...
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,075
    polaris_x wrote:
    trades with AA don't usually get leaked ... i would put this as a fraud lead aimed at an ulterior motive ...

    Firing up the Phillies?
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    trades with AA don't usually get leaked ... i would put this as a fraud lead aimed at an ulterior motive ...

    Firing up the Phillies?

    that would be my guess ... either that or he's got something brewing with another al east team ...
  • uninnocent-
    uninnocent- Posts: 5,959
    Two solo jacks for Bautista this far tonight, maybe he's gonna start to pull it together. Then again this stadium had always been kind to him...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    lind demoted ... gomes coming up ... first brazilian born player to play in the big leagues ...

    this team just not playing to its potential ... starting pitching has saved this team so far ...

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