If you like it, great. If not, don't listen. It's that simple. Not liking it is no reason to shit all over the people that do though. When someone starts a thread in Other Music about a band that I don't care for, I don't go in the thread posting negative comments, I keep it to myself. Have a great day everyone!
You've still not written a book, directed a movie or built your own car yet have you?
anyway, I DO like Radiohead... have done since Pablo Honey and no one is shitting on people for liking this album, actually it's people who love this album that are shitting on us... claiming we cannot 'comprehend' it.. that it is too layered... I cannot comprehend the size of the Universe, but an album?
You know what the funny thing is? I bet the people who don't like TKoL probably listen to it more than the people who actually DO like it!
I can verify, far and away and without a shadow of a doubt, that this statement is factually incorrect. I have no intention whatsoever of listening to this album ever again.
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I think you've misunderstood - people are angry because they are being told by certain people on here that if they don't like it that they haven't tried hard enough to 'get it'.
+1000000
I can hear layers and some subtle instruments and all that crap. But the fucking songs just aren't that good. IMO
Yeah, Kid A was all electronics too, but the songs were awesome. There's nothing in the same ballpark (or even the same sport) on this album as How to Disappear Completely.
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I think Codex is in that ballbark and Separator might not be that far behind. There's nothing on the Avacado or Backspacer that's as good as Sad and that's a b-side
I think Codex is in that ballbark and Separator might not be that far behind. There's nothing on the Avacado or Backspacer that's as good as Sad and that's a b-side
I tihnk that's a tribute to how great Sad is (and what a ridiculous decision it was to leave it off Binaural) rather than reflecting poorly on Avo & B/S. Although I'd put Inside Job up there with Sad (I know many here disagree).
P.S. - Light Years/Sad would've been the best double A-side single Pearl Jam ever made.
I'll listen to TKoL some more, when I can get motivated for it. It really drags my mood down. :roll:
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I think Codex is in that ballbark and Separator might not be that far behind. There's nothing on the Avacado or Backspacer that's as good as Sad and that's a b-side
That's very subjective, I think Sad is a pretty average PJ song. Songs like Inside Job and Unthought Known do more for me.
I agree on Codex though, my favourite on the record
If it really drags your mood down don't listen. It sounds like you haven't made it past Feral. It's uplifting after that.
Listened to the whole thing 3 or 4 times, I think. I'll be listening more - keep the prozac handy . Hopefully I reverse course at some point and join the side that likes it. I have to keep listening, as I've come to expect great things from these guys. But I've never had even close to as tough a time liking a Radiohead album (except Pablo Honey, which really isn't that good of course).
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Actually, since you insist on bringing it up repeatedly, I have in fact written a book, directed a movie and built my own car. Seriously, they were all for school projects at one time or another throughout my academic career.
hmmmmmmmmm... :shifty:
In school i once built a spaceship using an old toilet roll tube, glue and some tin foil... I am now speed dial 5 on NASA's list of experts.
Cool. Who Cares? I see what your point is but it's pretty stupid and doesn't mean anything to me as it's way out of proportion.
I can verify, far and away and without a shadow of a doubt, that this statement is factually incorrect. I have no intention whatsoever of listening to this album ever again.
Oh yeah? HAha....and how would you know??? You're one person...what do you have some kind of access to that information that others aren't privy to?
I can verify, far and away and without a shadow of a doubt, that this statement is factually incorrect. I have no intention whatsoever of listening to this album ever again.
i feel that way with backspacer.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I can verify, far and away and without a shadow of a doubt, that this statement is factually incorrect. I have no intention whatsoever of listening to this album ever again.
Oh yeah? HAha....and how would you know??? You're one person...what do you have some kind of access to that information that others aren't privy to?
No, I was merely pointing out that your suggestion that people who hate King Of Limbs, such as myself, listen to it more than the people who do like it, such as yourself, was wrong.
My criticism of this album is fuelled by my utter despair and regret that Radiohead have changed their sound so much so that they are almost unrecognisable from those five guys who I watched at Warrington back in 2000, open mouthed with chills running down my spine, walking back to my car glassy eyed and mesmerised.
Yes I know bands can't stay still, that they must evolve and change their sound but....I can't really put it into words. If you'd experienced the whole Bends/Ok Computer/Kid A era with the same intensity that I and others did, if you'd waited to see them with as much anticipation as I had and then had all your expectations lifted beyond anything you could imagine, then you'd understand why I'm so pissed off.
I'm glad that people take pleasure from listening to this album, I'm happy people think it's great but there is this nagging doubt at the back of my mind that some people are blinkered and can't bring themselves to criticise their beloved Radiohead.
Actually, since you insist on bringing it up repeatedly, I have in fact written a book, directed a movie and built my own car. Seriously, they were all for school projects at one time or another throughout my academic career.
hmmmmmmmmm... :shifty:
In school i once built a spaceship using an old toilet roll tube, glue and some tin foil... I am now speed dial 5 on NASA's list of experts.
Cool. Who Cares? I see what your point is but it's pretty stupid and doesn't mean anything to me as it's way out of proportion.
my point is nowhere near as stupid as yours... which i shall remind you and others of... it was, that unless we can make a better album then we have no right to an opinion on the matter.
That's the infantile argument of a 7 year old stopping a game of football because its his ball.
Like I am 100% sure you have called an album 'shit' in your life... but then I suppose at your school you probably made an album as part of a school project... along with a car, a movie and a book... some school that... at what corner of Utopia does it sit?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
No, I was merely pointing out that your suggestion that people who hate King Of Limbs, such as myself, listen to it more than the people who do like it, such as yourself, was wrong.
My criticism of this album is fuelled by my utter despair and regret that Radiohead have changed their sound so much so that they are almost unrecognisable from those five guys who I watched at Warrington back in 2000, open mouthed with chills running down my spine, walking back to my car glassy eyed and mesmerised.
Yes I know bands can't stay still, that they must evolve and change their sound but....I can't really put it into words. If you'd experienced the whole Bends/Ok Computer/Kid A era with the same intensity that I and others did, if you'd waited to see them with as much anticipation as I had and then had all your expectations lifted beyond anything you could imagine, then you'd understand why I'm so pissed off.
I'm glad that people take pleasure from listening to this album, I'm happy people think it's great but there is this nagging doubt at the back of my mind that some people are blinkered and can't bring themselves to criticise their beloved Radiohead.
You have no way of knowing that for sure. Maybe YOU don't, but that doesn't necessarily mean others don't. So you really have no merit to call me wrong in this case.
It's one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" things. If Radiohead never changed their sound and kept making the same or similar albums over and over, people would complain. If they change their sound, people complain.
I am definitely not "blinkered" as you put it. I can criticize Radiohead easily...for example, I think some of the songs on OK Computer suck and that is the favorite of a lot of Radiohead fans. I also think In Rainbows is overrated and not as good as a lot of people thought.
my point is nowhere near as stupid as yours... which i shall remind you and others of... it was, that unless we can make a better album then we have no right to an opinion on the matter.
That's the infantile argument of a 7 year old stopping a game of football because its his ball.
Like I am 100% sure you have called an album 'shit' in your life... but then I suppose at your school you probably made an album as part of a school project... along with a car, a movie and a book... some school that... at what corner of Utopia does it sit?
No. Of course you have the right to an opinion on the matter. Everyone does. That's not what I meant. All I really meant was I think it's funny that a lot of people are criticizing this album when you and I and everyone know that they really couldn't do any better. I can see how you and others might think that's stupid, but that does not make it untrue. And again, of course you can have an opinion. Obviously opinions will differ. Some will like the album and some won't, and that's true for pretty much any album in existence.
I don't see how it really goes with the 7 year old/football game example but...okay, man. If you're going to drag it out like that, if it's his ball, he has the right to take it. One could argue, if you want to play a game of football, buy your own ball.
Yes of course I think certain albums suck. I am not saying that people can't call TKoL "shit" or that they are required to like it...that's ridiculous. I just simply disagree with that notion.
I have not had the pleasure of making an album but I was in a band once. (We were awesome.) Yes, I really have made the other stuff. Since you seem so insistent on that, I will divulge. Everyone in my class wrote and published a number of books in elementary school. They were very short stories but we learned the process of literally creating a book, with the binding and everything. Also in high school I wrote a screenplay for a project in a film class. I also created a number of short movies and videos for various class projects in various subjects. Again, it's not like I directed a major motion picture but we did learn the process and actually go through it at least on some scale. I could go on with more details but that is enough.
As your patronizing smugness shows, I am sure you will have more to say. I eagerly await your reply.
No, I was merely pointing out that your suggestion that people who hate King Of Limbs, such as myself, listen to it more than the people who do like it, such as yourself, was wrong.
My criticism of this album is fuelled by my utter despair and regret that Radiohead have changed their sound so much so that they are almost unrecognisable from those five guys who I watched at Warrington back in 2000, open mouthed with chills running down my spine, walking back to my car glassy eyed and mesmerised.
Yes I know bands can't stay still, that they must evolve and change their sound but....I can't really put it into words. If you'd experienced the whole Bends/Ok Computer/Kid A era with the same intensity that I and others did, if you'd waited to see them with as much anticipation as I had and then had all your expectations lifted beyond anything you could imagine, then you'd understand why I'm so pissed off.
I'm glad that people take pleasure from listening to this album, I'm happy people think it's great but there is this nagging doubt at the back of my mind that some people are blinkered and can't bring themselves to criticise their beloved Radiohead.
You have no way of knowing that for sure. Maybe YOU don't, but that doesn't necessarily mean others don't. So you really have no merit to call me wrong in this case.
It's one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" things. If Radiohead never changed their sound and kept making the same or similar albums over and over, people would complain. If they change their sound, people complain.
I am definitely not "blinkered" as you put it. I can criticize Radiohead easily...for example, I think some of the songs on OK Computer suck and that is the favorite of a lot of Radiohead fans. I also think In Rainbows is overrated and not as good as a lot of people thought.
I have to agree that it was rather presumptuous of me to say that, but equally you can not even begin to suggest that people who dislike the album listen to it more than those who don’t.
And, if I can correct you, I did not suggest you were blinkered. I said “some people” including the media.
You do make a valid point in that Radiohead are damned either way for the albums they produce. I can appreciate that there must be an enormous weight of expectancy after producing their past albums but this doesn’t hide my disappointment at the direction their music has now gone.
And I agree with your view of In Rainbows. I hated that too, it sounded too….safe.
As your patronizing smugness shows, I am sure you will have more to say. I eagerly await your reply.
my patronising smugness never reared its head until I opened up this Radiohead thread... to then be told that some of us couldn't comprehend this album, which suggests, to me at least, that we are sitting bereft of any musical knowledge and would be much happier listening to a troglodyte beating his head with a club.
But then you come into the fray and tell people that they can't comment on something if they can't do better. Which is equally as patronising. We are all critics in some way... I look at new wallpaper with my wife and she says "oh i hate that, it's disgusting", should I then turn to her and say "you can't be saying that now... i mean after all, you couldn't design a better one"
But you can't say we can't make a personal emotive choice on whether we like things or not simply because we couldn't make a better one... that's a corrupt viewpoint... and I was merely pointing that out. Just as I'll point out that this is a shit car
But I couldn't make a better one... I don't know how... But it doesn't provoke a favourable emotion from me, just as King Of Limbs doesn't... nor does 80s based fashion.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
As your patronizing smugness shows, I am sure you will have more to say. I eagerly await your reply.
my patronising smugness never reared its head until I opened up this Radiohead thread... to then be told that some of us couldn't comprehend this album, which suggests, to me at least, that we are sitting bereft of any musical knowledge and would be much happier listening to a troglodyte beating his head with a club.
But then you come into the fray and tell people that they can't comment on something if they can't do better. Which is equally as patronising. We are all critics in some way... I look at new wallpaper with my wife and she says "oh i hate that, it's disgusting", should I then turn to her and say "you can't be saying that now... i mean after all, you couldn't design a better one"
But you can't say we can't make a personal emotive choice on whether we like things or not simply because we couldn't make a better one... that's a corrupt viewpoint... and I was merely pointing that out. Just as I'll point out that this is a shit car
But I couldn't make a better one... I don't know how... But it doesn't provoke a favourable emotion from me, just as King Of Limbs doesn't... nor does 80s based fashion.
Agree with Dunk here. Your comments and attitude have been very childish on this matter and suggesting that because somebody doesn't like an album or whatever that they can have no opinion on it because they haven't done better or released an album? You need to take a little step back here, re-read your comments and have a think.
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oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Dunkman - your posts in this thread have been priceless.
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I have to agree that it was rather presumptuous of me to say that, but equally you can not even begin to suggest that people who dislike the album listen to it more than those who don’t.
And, if I can correct you, I did not suggest you were blinkered. I said “some people” including the media.
You do make a valid point in that Radiohead are damned either way for the albums they produce. I can appreciate that there must be an enormous weight of expectancy after producing their past albums but this doesn’t hide my disappointment at the direction their music has now gone.
And I agree with your view of In Rainbows. I hated that too, it sounded too….safe.
No big deal, but just to be clear, I was not implying that you suggested I was blinkered. I was simply stating that I am not of the people who are blinkered.
my patronising smugness never reared its head until I opened up this Radiohead thread... to then be told that some of us couldn't comprehend this album, which suggests, to me at least, that we are sitting bereft of any musical knowledge and would be much happier listening to a troglodyte beating his head with a club.
But then you come into the fray and tell people that they can't comment on something if they can't do better. Which is equally as patronising. We are all critics in some way... I look at new wallpaper with my wife and she says "oh i hate that, it's disgusting", should I then turn to her and say "you can't be saying that now... i mean after all, you couldn't design a better one"
But you can't say we can't make a personal emotive choice on whether we like things or not simply because we couldn't make a better one... that's a corrupt viewpoint... and I was merely pointing that out. Just as I'll point out that this is a shit car
But I couldn't make a better one... I don't know how... But it doesn't provoke a favourable emotion from me, just as King Of Limbs doesn't... nor does 80s based fashion.
I have already acknowledged that I realize my argument was not the best one to make and yet you keep repeating the same rebuttal over and over. Again, as I've already stated, OF COURSE you have the right to make a personal emotive choice or have an opinion or however you want to put it. People are bound to disagree; that's just the way it is. There is really nothing you can say that will make me go, "Oh, hmm you know, he's right!" And on the flipside, I'm sure there is nothing I can say that will make you go, "Oh you know what, he's right!" So go ahead and keep arguing all you want. Nobody is really right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinion. I am over it. Listen to it if you want, don't listen if you don't want. It's that simple. Case closed. Good day.
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I can verify, far and away and without a shadow of a doubt, that this statement is factually incorrect. I have no intention whatsoever of listening to this album ever again.
+1000000
I can hear layers and some subtle instruments and all that crap. But the fucking songs just aren't that good. IMO
Yeah, Kid A was all electronics too, but the songs were awesome. There's nothing in the same ballpark (or even the same sport) on this album as How to Disappear Completely.
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I tihnk that's a tribute to how great Sad is (and what a ridiculous decision it was to leave it off Binaural) rather than reflecting poorly on Avo & B/S. Although I'd put Inside Job up there with Sad (I know many here disagree).
P.S. - Light Years/Sad would've been the best double A-side single Pearl Jam ever made.
I'll listen to TKoL some more, when I can get motivated for it. It really drags my mood down. :roll:
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That's very subjective, I think Sad is a pretty average PJ song. Songs like Inside Job and Unthought Known do more for me.
I agree on Codex though, my favourite on the record
Listened to the whole thing 3 or 4 times, I think. I'll be listening more - keep the prozac handy
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Cool. Who Cares? I see what your point is but it's pretty stupid and doesn't mean anything to me as it's way out of proportion.
Oh yeah? HAha....and how would you know??? You're one person...what do you have some kind of access to that information that others aren't privy to?
i feel that way with backspacer.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
No, I was merely pointing out that your suggestion that people who hate King Of Limbs, such as myself, listen to it more than the people who do like it, such as yourself, was wrong.
My criticism of this album is fuelled by my utter despair and regret that Radiohead have changed their sound so much so that they are almost unrecognisable from those five guys who I watched at Warrington back in 2000, open mouthed with chills running down my spine, walking back to my car glassy eyed and mesmerised.
Yes I know bands can't stay still, that they must evolve and change their sound but....I can't really put it into words. If you'd experienced the whole Bends/Ok Computer/Kid A era with the same intensity that I and others did, if you'd waited to see them with as much anticipation as I had and then had all your expectations lifted beyond anything you could imagine, then you'd understand why I'm so pissed off.
I'm glad that people take pleasure from listening to this album, I'm happy people think it's great but there is this nagging doubt at the back of my mind that some people are blinkered and can't bring themselves to criticise their beloved Radiohead.
my point is nowhere near as stupid as yours... which i shall remind you and others of... it was, that unless we can make a better album then we have no right to an opinion on the matter.
That's the infantile argument of a 7 year old stopping a game of football because its his ball.
Like I am 100% sure you have called an album 'shit' in your life... but then I suppose at your school you probably made an album as part of a school project... along with a car, a movie and a book... some school that... at what corner of Utopia does it sit?
You have no way of knowing that for sure. Maybe YOU don't, but that doesn't necessarily mean others don't. So you really have no merit to call me wrong in this case.
It's one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" things. If Radiohead never changed their sound and kept making the same or similar albums over and over, people would complain. If they change their sound, people complain.
I am definitely not "blinkered" as you put it. I can criticize Radiohead easily...for example, I think some of the songs on OK Computer suck and that is the favorite of a lot of Radiohead fans. I also think In Rainbows is overrated and not as good as a lot of people thought.
No. Of course you have the right to an opinion on the matter. Everyone does. That's not what I meant. All I really meant was I think it's funny that a lot of people are criticizing this album when you and I and everyone know that they really couldn't do any better. I can see how you and others might think that's stupid, but that does not make it untrue. And again, of course you can have an opinion. Obviously opinions will differ. Some will like the album and some won't, and that's true for pretty much any album in existence.
I don't see how it really goes with the 7 year old/football game example but...okay, man. If you're going to drag it out like that, if it's his ball, he has the right to take it. One could argue, if you want to play a game of football, buy your own ball.
Yes of course I think certain albums suck. I am not saying that people can't call TKoL "shit" or that they are required to like it...that's ridiculous. I just simply disagree with that notion.
I have not had the pleasure of making an album but I was in a band once. (We were awesome.) Yes, I really have made the other stuff. Since you seem so insistent on that, I will divulge. Everyone in my class wrote and published a number of books in elementary school. They were very short stories but we learned the process of literally creating a book, with the binding and everything. Also in high school I wrote a screenplay for a project in a film class. I also created a number of short movies and videos for various class projects in various subjects. Again, it's not like I directed a major motion picture but we did learn the process and actually go through it at least on some scale. I could go on with more details but that is enough.
As your patronizing smugness shows, I am sure you will have more to say. I eagerly await your reply.
I have to agree that it was rather presumptuous of me to say that, but equally you can not even begin to suggest that people who dislike the album listen to it more than those who don’t.
And, if I can correct you, I did not suggest you were blinkered. I said “some people” including the media.
You do make a valid point in that Radiohead are damned either way for the albums they produce. I can appreciate that there must be an enormous weight of expectancy after producing their past albums but this doesn’t hide my disappointment at the direction their music has now gone.
And I agree with your view of In Rainbows. I hated that too, it sounded too….safe.
my patronising smugness never reared its head until I opened up this Radiohead thread... to then be told that some of us couldn't comprehend this album, which suggests, to me at least, that we are sitting bereft of any musical knowledge and would be much happier listening to a troglodyte beating his head with a club.
But then you come into the fray and tell people that they can't comment on something if they can't do better. Which is equally as patronising. We are all critics in some way... I look at new wallpaper with my wife and she says "oh i hate that, it's disgusting", should I then turn to her and say "you can't be saying that now... i mean after all, you couldn't design a better one"
But you can't say we can't make a personal emotive choice on whether we like things or not simply because we couldn't make a better one... that's a corrupt viewpoint... and I was merely pointing that out. Just as I'll point out that this is a shit car
But I couldn't make a better one... I don't know how... But it doesn't provoke a favourable emotion from me, just as King Of Limbs doesn't... nor does 80s based fashion.
Agree with Dunk here. Your comments and attitude have been very childish on this matter and suggesting that because somebody doesn't like an album or whatever that they can have no opinion on it because they haven't done better or released an album? You need to take a little step back here, re-read your comments and have a think.
http://youtu.be/m0VPPJscIL4
Haha, that was fucking brilliant!
that was fantastic!!!
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No big deal, but just to be clear, I was not implying that you suggested I was blinkered. I was simply stating that I am not of the people who are blinkered.
I have already acknowledged that I realize my argument was not the best one to make and yet you keep repeating the same rebuttal over and over. Again, as I've already stated, OF COURSE you have the right to make a personal emotive choice or have an opinion or however you want to put it. People are bound to disagree; that's just the way it is. There is really nothing you can say that will make me go, "Oh, hmm you know, he's right!" And on the flipside, I'm sure there is nothing I can say that will make you go, "Oh you know what, he's right!" So go ahead and keep arguing all you want. Nobody is really right or wrong, it's all a matter of opinion. I am over it. Listen to it if you want, don't listen if you don't want. It's that simple. Case closed. Good day.
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What a simple-minded arrogant fuck head. He wouldn't know art, creativity or grace if it stared him in the face.
It's ok if other people don't like them, guys.
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I don't see why this has to turn into a shit-fest.
Anyway, talking about the actual music here, "Give Up the Ghost" is hitting hard for me at the moment. Had it on repeat for awhile.
Give Up the Ghost is a stunningly awesome song! :!: