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PJ20 Anniversary Location - Your Best Guess? **1/31 UPDATE**

vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,083
edited April 2011 in The Porch
So I know speculation and anticipation has pretty much gone through the roof here, but I'm trying to narrow down where the show might actually be. Logically, if we all put our heads together (particularly those of us who live "somewhere in the middle of the country"), we could narrow down the most likely locations, couldn't we? From there, we could probably narrow down dates, right? Let's give it a shot.

***1/31/11 Update***I've added a few more locations but there are still a lot of locations posted by people. If you posted it, provide the details for it! There's been some comments from Jeff lately that make a lot of us concerned that a weekend festival may not be happening, but we still have no "official" news. Here's to hoping for a summer weekend festival. If you posted the location, provide the details.

-Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI
-Outdoor ampitheatre - Detroit Lakes, MN
-Chillicothe, IL (north-central, IL)
-Wrigley Field/Soldier Field/Grant Park - Chicago, IL
-Outdoor venue - St. Louis, MO
-Iowa State Fair - Des Moines, IA
-Mulberry Mountain - Ozark, AR
-Aurora, CO
-Bonner Springs, KS
Capacity: 18,000
Camping: no; 15 miles from Kansas City
Seating: 3,100 boxed/reserved seats, rest is general admission
Weather: average for August is 87 F
Venue: open air ampitheater
Availability: venue is available last weekend of August
-Rothbury, MI
-Great Stage Park - Manchester, TN (where Bonnaroo is)
Capacity: 90,000?
Camping: yes
Seating: general admission
Weather: 80-85 in August
Venue: park/lawn
Availability: no summer lineup yet
-Red Rocks Ampitheater - Morrison, CO
Capacity: 9,450
Camping: yes
Seating: shows can be all reserved or all general admission
Weather: August is 80-90s
Venue: Ampitheater
Availability: summer lineup announced in March/April
-Austin, TX
-Verizon Music Center - Noblesville, IN
Capacity: 24,000
Camping: yes; hotels nearby
Seating: 6,000 pavilion seasts; 18,000 general admission lawn seats
Weather: 75-85 F in late August
Venue: Ampitheater
Availability: Late summer not announced yet

Of these locations, what are the capacities for attendance? Do they have camping? Reserved seating in parts? How accessible are they? Hotels nearby? What's the weather like in that area in August? Is the venue an ampitheatre? What is the date availability for August at the location?

If you posted the location, try to provide answers to the questions above. Then, we can start eliminating locations if they don't sound like viable options.

Ok, you've got some tasks...go!
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    The Gorge in George, WA.
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    EquallyWorthlessEquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    The Gorge or somewhere in Chicago
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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,083
    Ok the Gorge in Washington can't be your best guess because that's clearly not in "somewhere in the middle of the country." I thought we cleared that up. This isn't "where do you hope the show will be?"; its "what's your best guess where the show will be?"

    In addition to Lollapalooza, let's add the Gorge to the list. And anywhere else that's not "somewhere in the middle of the country."
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    Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    could be chillicothe, IL... home of the jam band summercamp festival

    never been but i hear theres plenty of space

    i for one am hoping its not some big empty field or nascar track as some have suggested... doesn't seem very PJ to me for whatever reason
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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,083
    Kilgore_Trout wrote:
    could be chillicothe, IL... home of the jam band summercamp festival

    never been but i hear theres plenty of space

    i for one am hoping its not some big empty field or nascar track as some have suggested... doesn't seem very PJ to me for whatever reason

    See? This is what I'm talking about. I've never heard of Chillicothe (because I'm not from IL), but that's as good a guess as any. There's gotta be hundreds of outdoor venues (I suppose I'm assuming its outdoors) throughout the middle of the country. If we compile a list, some good venue options might start to appear.

    Good call!
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    DedvwDedvw Posts: 245
    Nativa Festival, Maine.
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    vant0037 wrote:
    Ok the Gorge in Washington can't be your best guess because that's clearly not in "somewhere in the middle of the country." I thought we cleared that up. This isn't "where do you hope the show will be?"; its "what's your best guess where the show will be?"

    In addition to Lollapalooza, let's add the Gorge to the list. And anywhere else that's not "somewhere in the middle of the country."
    Well, then Chicago is out too.

    So, are we limited to the state of Kansas? It actually is in the middle of the country.
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    vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,083
    aNiMaL wrote:
    vant0037 wrote:
    Ok the Gorge in Washington can't be your best guess because that's clearly not in "somewhere in the middle of the country." I thought we cleared that up. This isn't "where do you hope the show will be?"; its "what's your best guess where the show will be?"

    In addition to Lollapalooza, let's add the Gorge to the list. And anywhere else that's not "somewhere in the middle of the country."
    Well, then Chicago is out too.

    So, are we limited to the state of Kansas? It actually is in the middle of the country.

    Defining the middle of the country is tough, but I think its safe to say the coasts are definitely out. So that means no Gorge and no Maine. I'm looking at you Dedvw!

    I think its reasonable to call "the middle of the country" anywhere from MN/WI/IL to KS/MO the "middle of the country." I don't include MN because I'm from there, but because that whole area is referred to as "the midwest." Probably a safe assumption. That's why I'm looking for show locales in those areas, just to get a raw list of possibilities. Maybe, as the excitement picks up, we can start to narrow down available weekends from that list and see where it might realistically be held.

    In any event, no matter how you define the "middle of the country," it doesn't include the coasts. Sorry Gorge. I'd love to make a trip there but I don't think that's where the show's going to be...
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    Eh, that is your interpretation. ;)

    I am sticking with The Gorge.
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 88,821
    - Alpine Valley Music Theatre, East Troy, Wisconsin
    - Wrigley Field, Chicago, Illinois
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    I get what you are saying though, dude. I just hope it is somewhere cool, and that I can afford to get there.

    Bring on some kick ass PJ weekend somewhere cool! :mrgreen:
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    thefixer9thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    YEAH!!! THE GORGE!! It's my best guess because even though they said in the middle of the US they could have changed their mind. I mean come on, they should play in their homestate!!! It makes more sense!!! :D
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    uglybabouglybabo Posts: 518
    Why do people automatically interpret 'middle of the country' to mean the middle of the US?

    It could just mean not in the city.
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    Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    demetrios wrote:
    - Wrigley Field, Chicago, Illinois
    GOD PLEASE NO!

    even as a cubs/wrigley field/wrigleyville fan i can not imagine a worse place to see a concert

    i do not get the infatuation with seeing something other than baseball there

    not to mention i would prefer a place without a curfew :D
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    sometimesicringesometimesicringe Vancouver, BC Posts: 86
    I don't think it will be a 'venue'...
    with the early hype they are creating for this event, and the possibility of it being a festival style, multiple band celebration, I say it going to be held in a festival style field setup, complete with camping...

    by the way, who said it would be in the middle of the US country?
    what happened to those Toronto rumors 2 summers ago for Downsview park?

    haha...just kidding...I have not doubt it will be in the states
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    thefixer9 wrote:
    YEAH!!! THE GORGE!! It's my best guess because even though they said in the middle of the US they could have changed their mind. I mean come on, they should play in their homestate!!! It makes more sense!!! :D
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    SK143562 wrote:
    I don't think it will be a 'venue'...
    with the early hype they are creating for this event, and the possibility of it being a festival style, multiple band celebration, I say it going to be held in a festival style field setup, complete with camping...
    You just pretty much described The Gorge.
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    sometimesicringesometimesicringe Vancouver, BC Posts: 86
    aNiMaL wrote:
    SK143562 wrote:
    I don't think it will be a 'venue'...
    with the early hype they are creating for this event, and the possibility of it being a festival style, multiple band celebration, I say it going to be held in a festival style field setup, complete with camping...
    You just pretty much described The Gorge.

    Gorge has a capacity though...
    I mean somewhere with a fairly unlimited number of tickets

    a) I don't think the 10c will want to listen to people whine about not getting tickets
    b) I don't think the 10c will want to listen to the people who got tickets whine about where their tickets are located
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    thefixer9thefixer9 Posts: 9,376
    aNiMaL wrote:
    thefixer9 wrote:
    YEAH!!! THE GORGE!! It's my best guess because even though they said in the middle of the US they could have changed their mind. I mean come on, they should play in their homestate!!! It makes more sense!!! :D
    I am with this kid! :mrgreen:

    Yeah!!!! :D
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 88,821
    Kilgore_Trout wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    - Wrigley Field, Chicago, Illinois
    GOD PLEASE NO!

    even as a cubs/wrigley field/wrigleyville fan i can not imagine a worse place to see a concert

    i do not get the infatuation with seeing something other than baseball there

    not to mention i would prefer a place without a curfew :D

    Gotcha. I've never been there before & never seen the band play @ a baseball field. Would be cool to see someday up on the jumbo tron & take in some cracker jacks.
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    Better DanBetter Dan Posts: 5,684
    Unfortunately, I missed out on the other Gorge shows, but it looks like an amazing place for a concert. I would definitely travel there this year.

    http://festivalagogo.com/wp-content/upl ... -gorge.jpg

    http://pearljam.com/i/tourphotos/20060722/2.jpg

    Maybe when they said "middle of the country" they meant out in the country like middle of nowhere :D

    Honestly though, I have a feeling its going to be somwehere in the midwest.
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    Cool Face RyanCool Face Ryan Posts: 1,254
    Definitely in some parking lot literally in the middle of the country. Rockin it, drop in the park style.
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    dugangsxrdugangsxr Covington KY Posts: 676
    Kansas is like in the middle of the US. I hope close to OH. :?
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    Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    where does this "middle of the country" assumption come from?
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    SkeeterBSkeeterB If I knew where it was, I would take you there... Posts: 422
    SK143562 wrote:
    I don't think it will be a 'venue'...
    by the way, who said it would be in the middle of the US country?
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    Ummmm....Kelly Curtis said it.

    2-1 odds it's Alpine. it's the place that makes the most sense. lake geneva is not too far off, so hotels are relatively close by for the out of towners. They have camping available, it holds 35K-40K or something, so unlimited TC tickets shouldn't be an issue (probably everyone would be able to get pavilion seats since the pavilion is rather large), and it's Alpine, one of the best places to see an outdoor show in the country. Plus, although Alpine was supposed to happen in 2009, it hasn't seen PJ since 2003 (which just so happened to be one of the highlights of the 2003 tour).
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    Nittany1bnNittany1bn Near Philadelphia Posts: 214
    make it a destination like a "destination wedding" Jamaica, Sonoma, Hawaii, Tahiti....
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,404
    The Gorge isn't in the middle of the country....

    My guesses...Chicago or St.Louis
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    realmgeorgerealmgeorge Posts: 298
    mfc2006 wrote:
    The Gorge isn't in the middle of the country....

    My guesses...Chicago or St.Louis


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    Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    realmgeorge wrote:
    mfc2006 wrote:
    The Gorge isn't in the middle of the country....

    My guesses...Chicago or St.Louis


    If it's in STL you all can stay at my place.
    that outdoor venue there isnt bad... saw radiohead there... but it'd be way too small IMO... dunno what else y'all got down there tho
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    realmgeorgerealmgeorge Posts: 298
    Nothing worthwhile....

    Would love to make my return to East Troy or even Grant Park in Chicago.... I'll be at Grant Park about 3 weeks earlier for Lolla anyway.
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