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  • KatKat Posts: 4,938
    There isn't anything unfair at all in this change, in my opinion.


    but in other peoples opinions there is. what the problem here is the people who in their opinion think there is nothing wrong with it jumping down the throats of those who do. people have stated their reasons for why they think it's a bad change, people have stated why they think it's not. everyone is just saying the same shit and not listening to anyone else. which is all that ever happens round here. even the people saying try and be positive and stop whinging are themselves being negative and whinging.

    this is getting way beyond a fucking joke you are not right for thinking the changes are good, others aren't right for thinking the changes are bad. if people can see value in paying double to get a shirt and boot good on them. if others also think the $20 option is bullshit well good on them and it's their right to think that, no matter how many times people say it's only 2 cents a day or a couple dollars a month ain't gonna change the way people feel.

    everyone needs to get the fuck over themselves and realise that they are no better then anyone else around here.

    This isn't helping anything to tell people to get the fuck over themselves. See the Posting Guidelines and follow them please.

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  • threefish10threefish10 Posts: 7,392
    edited January 2011
    Kat wrote:
    This isn't helping anything to tell people to get the fuck over themselves. See the Posting Guidelines and follow them please.

    Admin


    ha, being Australian we swear alot. but it's true, everyone needs to get over themselves. no one's opinion is more valid then anyone else's or more right and wrong. that's pretty much all the last 60 or so pages come down to. the same people saying the same things over and over, from both sides.
    Post edited by threefish10 on
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  • ZiggyStarZiggyStar Posts: 14,328
    being Australian we swear alot.

    This Australian sure as hell doesn't swear much at all!! :mrgreen:

    I agree with you fishy....same crap over and over. Going nowhere. Just lock the stupid thread already. If I'd started it, it would have been locked days ago.
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  • wrong.

    i got an email from tenclub stating, "rest assured you will receive the deep magazine and holiday single for 2011."

    i renewed my membership in december prior to the change even though my membership wasn't up until jan. this is my email from 10C when i asked to clarify whether or not i would receive the 2011 single.

    "Your Jan 25 2010-2011 fall under the old system. Your Jan 25 2011-2012 and Jan 2012-2013 fall under the new 2011 system at the $20 level. Therefore you will get the 2010 single, but you will not get any more singles after that one.

    If you want to be switched to analog let us know and we’ll combine your 2 $20 payments into 1 year ($40) of Analog membership. This will ensure you get the 2011 single. Just let us know.

    Best,
    10
    c"

    anyone else get anything different?
  • FrankBauer wrote:

    wrong.

    i got an email from tenclub stating, "rest assured you will receive the deep magazine and holiday single for 2011."

    i renewed my membership in december prior to the change even though my membership wasn't up until jan. this is my email from 10C when i asked to clarify whether or not i would receive the 2011 single.

    "Your Jan 25 2010-2011 fall under the old system. Your Jan 25 2011-2012 and Jan 2012-2013 fall under the new 2011 system at the $20 level. Therefore you will get the 2010 single, but you will not get any more singles after that one.

    If you want to be switched to analog let us know and we’ll combine your 2 $20 payments into 1 year ($40) of Analog membership. This will ensure you get the 2011 single. Just let us know.

    Best,
    10
    c"

    anyone else get anything different?

    To me, this is the worst thing 10C has done. The prices can be argued day and night but I don't know how anyone can justify 10C changing the terms for what was paid for. If theyu did not intend to honour their end they should have never taken payment for multi-year renewals. In the more extreme cases they have taken the money upfront, collected the interest and are now asking for more money from members in order to retain the rights to what they had already paid for. That's shameful business.
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  • To me, this is the worst thing 10C has done. The prices can be argued day and night but I don't know how anyone can justify 10C changing the terms for what was paid for. If theyu did not intend to honour their end they should have never taken payment for multi-year renewals. In the more extreme cases they have taken the money upfront, collected the interest and are now asking for more money from members in order to retain the rights to what they had already paid for. That's shameful business.
    yah i'm surprised i haven't seen anyone upset about this... seems sketchy as hell... i wonder what 10C's counter would be if someone actually held their feet to the fire

    if nothing else the upgrade fee should be less than $20... like $20 less the cost of the vinyl and mag... probably $10 or 15
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  • crazygeocrazygeo Posts: 2,380
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    To me, this is the worst thing 10C has done. The prices can be argued day and night but I don't know how anyone can justify 10C changing the terms for what was paid for. If theyu did not intend to honour their end they should have never taken payment for multi-year renewals. In the more extreme cases they have taken the money upfront, collected the interest and are now asking for more money from members in order to retain the rights to what they had already paid for. That's shameful business.
    yah i'm surprised i haven't seen anyone upset about this... seems sketchy as hell... i wonder what 10C's counter would be if someone actually held their feet to the fire

    if nothing else the upgrade fee should be less than $20... like $20 less the cost of the vinyl and mag... probably $10 or 15


    As a fan of this band from almost the beginning in 1990, in Phila. suburbs. I have grown to respect, appreciate and overall have been happy with the 10 Club and all of it's benefits. It does sadden me, in a sort of not way, of all the issues this has opposed to the pearl jam family.......

    it just goes to show that all the capitalistic greed that alot of grunge bands were ALL AGAINST has maybe bitten the hand that feeds them, with some...

    Either way I am in on anything Pearl jam does...and to the rest...NO WAY
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  • To me, this is the worst thing 10C has done. The prices can be argued day and night but I don't know how anyone can justify 10C changing the terms for what was paid for. If theyu did not intend to honour their end they should have never taken payment for multi-year renewals. In the more extreme cases they have taken the money upfront, collected the interest and are now asking for more money from members in order to retain the rights to what they had already paid for. That's shameful business.

    im with you on this. they permitted multi-year renewals, and the the way the ship is run here for this board, you follow the rules as a member and agree to the 10C terms. these rules are closely monitored and enforced by the admin. if anything, the membership can be considered a contract. and we paid before the change, so we should be grandfathered into the old benefits.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    FrankBauer wrote:
    To me, this is the worst thing 10C has done. The prices can be argued day and night but I don't know how anyone can justify 10C changing the terms for what was paid for. If theyu did not intend to honour their end they should have never taken payment for multi-year renewals. In the more extreme cases they have taken the money upfront, collected the interest and are now asking for more money from members in order to retain the rights to what they had already paid for. That's shameful business.

    im with you on this. they permitted multi-year renewals, and the the way the ship is run here for this board, you follow the rules as a member and agree to the 10C terms. these rules are closely monitored and enforced by the admin. if anything, the membership can be considered a contract. and we paid before the change, so we should be grandfathered into the old benefits.
    For anyone and everyone who thinks they have a legal case against the Ten Club because of whatever reasons, really should familiarize yourselves with the Ten Clubs legal disclaimer: http://www.pearljam.com/content/legal-disclaimer
  • Oz JammerOz Jammer Posts: 9,858
    edited January 2011
    FrankBauer wrote:
    To me, this is the worst thing 10C has done. The prices can be argued day and night but I don't know how anyone can justify 10C changing the terms for what was paid for. If theyu did not intend to honour their end they should have never taken payment for multi-year renewals. In the more extreme cases they have taken the money upfront, collected the interest and are now asking for more money from members in order to retain the rights to what they had already paid for. That's shameful business.

    im with you on this. they permitted multi-year renewals, and the the way the ship is run here for this board, you follow the rules as a member and agree to the 10C terms. these rules are closely monitored and enforced by the admin. if anything, the membership can be considered a contract. and we paid before the change, so we should be grandfathered into the old benefits.

    We really have no way of arguing this fact due to the email I received last year while renewing my membership.

    member number 263xxx.
    Expiration Date Wed Nov 21 00:00:00 PST 2012.
    Welcome to the Ten Club

    We have received your membership/renewal fee and you are now officially
    geared up to receive all of the Ten Club benefits throughout the upcoming
    year with Pearl Jam.

    You will enjoy:


    -Newsletter
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    In the past we have done our best to provide each member with access to
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    At no point does it mention physical copies of both the newsletter or annual gift.
    Post edited by Oz Jammer on
  • JK109224JK109224 Posts: 633
    If you renewed for multiple years recently, and you can't get the upgrade, that's rubbish.
    Come to send, not condescend...
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    JK109224 wrote:
    If you renewed for multiple years recently, and you can't get the upgrade, that's rubbish.
    http://www.pearljam.com/content/legal-disclaimer

    "THE INFORMATION, PRODUCTS, AND SERVICES INCLUDED IN OR AVAILABLE THROUGH THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES MAY INCLUDE INACCURACIES OR TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS. CHANGES ARE PERIODICALLY MADE TO THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES AND TO THE INFORMATION THEREIN. TEN CLUB AND/OR ITS RESPECTIVE SUPPLIERS MAY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND/OR CHANGES IN THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES AT ANY TIME. ADVICE RECEIVED VIA THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES SHOULD NOT BE RELIED UPON FOR PERSONAL, MEDICAL, LEGAL OR FINANCIAL DECISIONS AND YOU SHOULD CONSULT AN APPROPRIATE PROFESSIONAL FOR SPECIFIC ADVICE TAILORED TO YOUR SITUATION."
  • aNiMaL wrote:
    JK109224 wrote:
    If you renewed for multiple years recently, and you can't get the upgrade, that's rubbish.
    http://www.pearljam.com/content/legal-disclaimer

    "THE INFORMATION, PRODUCTS, AND SERVICES INCLUDED IN OR AVAILABLE THROUGH THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES MAY INCLUDE INACCURACIES OR TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS. CHANGES ARE PERIODICALLY MADE TO THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES AND TO THE INFORMATION THEREIN. TEN CLUB AND/OR ITS RESPECTIVE SUPPLIERS MAY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND/OR CHANGES IN THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES AT ANY TIME. ADVICE RECEIVED VIA THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES SHOULD NOT BE RELIED UPON FOR PERSONAL, MEDICAL, LEGAL OR FINANCIAL DECISIONS AND YOU SHOULD CONSULT AN APPROPRIATE PROFESSIONAL FOR SPECIFIC ADVICE TAILORED TO YOUR SITUATION."
    awfully dodgy language there, friend... "improvements and/or changes to 10C services" does not imply anything about pricing... im no legal expert but would something that vague actually protect them? more importantly would anyone actually sue a fan club? :P

    based on what i read in those disclaimers (and i was bored enough to read the whole thing) 10C isn't responsible for ANYTHING
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    aNiMaL wrote:
    JK109224 wrote:
    If you renewed for multiple years recently, and you can't get the upgrade, that's rubbish.
    http://www.pearljam.com/content/legal-disclaimer

    "THE INFORMATION, PRODUCTS, AND SERVICES INCLUDED IN OR AVAILABLE THROUGH THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES MAY INCLUDE INACCURACIES OR TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS. CHANGES ARE PERIODICALLY MADE TO THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES AND TO THE INFORMATION THEREIN. TEN CLUB AND/OR ITS RESPECTIVE SUPPLIERS MAY MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND/OR CHANGES IN THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES AT ANY TIME. ADVICE RECEIVED VIA THE TEN CLUB SITES/SERVICES SHOULD NOT BE RELIED UPON FOR PERSONAL, MEDICAL, LEGAL OR FINANCIAL DECISIONS AND YOU SHOULD CONSULT AN APPROPRIATE PROFESSIONAL FOR SPECIFIC ADVICE TAILORED TO YOUR SITUATION."
    awfully dodgy language there, friend... "improvements and/or changes to 10C services" does not imply anything about pricing... im no legal expert but would something that vague actually protect them? more importantly would anyone actually sue a fan club? :P

    based on what i read in those disclaimers (and i was bored enough to read the whole thing) 10C isn't responsible for ANYTHING
    I really like the fact that you are not supposed to take the medical advise here seriously. :lol:
  • aNiMaL wrote:
    I really like the fact that you are not supposed to take the medical advise here seriously. :lol:
    or say anything sexually explicit :lol::lol:
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  • JoJo Posts: 2,098
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    some political leader that has a big effect on our everyday lives!...this is not a knock on Tim! This is a great community of people with a common interest, .

    I'll drink to that. :)
  • I'm really not fussed by this. My hubby-to-be and I are both members and currently we get TWO vinyls and TWO Deep mags. I know for a fact that I will be buying the Analogue membership and he'll buy the Digital... it works out well for us... and the way I sees it, it's a pretty standard price that amount of membership perks.
    Been to this many PJ shows: Reading 2006 London 2007 Manchester & London 2009 Dublin, Belfast, London, Nijmegen & Berlin 2010 Manchester 1 & Manchester 2 2012...

    ... and I still think Drive-By Truckers are better.
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    I'm really not fussed by this. My hubby-to-be and I are both members and currently we get TWO vinyls and TWO Deep mags. I know for a fact that I will be buying the Analogue membership and he'll buy the Digital... it works out well for us... and the way I sees it, it's a pretty standard price that amount of membership perks.
    That's how we're doing it.

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  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 4,997
    That how we should be doing it... My wife has been free loading on me for so long! ;)
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  • My Wife and I are both going Analog.
    Member 164xxx

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    More to Come....
  • I am confused. I renewed prior to this announcement being made under the assumption that I would be receiving all of the items I usually receive.

    Am I now required to send more money just so I can get what I was led to believe I already paid for? Will I be receiving the holiday single 45 I usually get or will a crappy mp3 be substituted? Does this apply to my next renewal or the one I already paid for?

    Please clarify because I don't want to lose out on getting any PJ vinyl.
  • rdeal1999 wrote:
    I am confused. I renewed prior to this announcement being made under the assumption that I would be receiving all of the items I usually receive.

    Am I now required to send more money just so I can get what I was led to believe I already paid for? Will I be receiving the holiday single 45 I usually get or will a crappy mp3 be substituted? Does this apply to my next renewal or the one I already paid for?

    Please clarify because I don't want to lose out on getting any PJ vinyl.
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  • rdeal1999 wrote:
    I am confused. I renewed prior to this announcement being made under the assumption that I would be receiving all of the items I usually receive.

    Am I now required to send more money just so I can get what I was led to believe I already paid for? Will I be receiving the holiday single 45 I usually get or will a crappy mp3 be substituted? Does this apply to my next renewal or the one I already paid for?

    Please clarify because I don't want to lose out on getting any PJ vinyl.


    My wife renewed on December 28, 2010(3 days before the announcement) and will get the vinyl and issue of deep but will not get the bootleg download code and t-shirt until she renews in December 2011. If she wants to renew earlier than December she can pay her $40 Analog price at any time during the year including today.

    We actually called them to better understand the policy. We are just both going to renew in April when its my turn to renew so we get the shirt and downloads at the same time.
    Member 164xxx

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  • I think I paid $25 before for my International membership, so don't have a problem with $50 if it adds a shirt and a bootleg to my membership.

    Can sort of understand why people are upset, it would certainly be better that if they're going to charge that much more money, there could be more communication, and getting the holiday single out in the holidays etc, but we still get a lot more than some other fan clubs, so $50 a year isn't to bad in my opinion
  • I think I paid $25 before for my International membership, so don't have a problem with $50 if it adds a shirt and a bootleg to my membership.

    Can sort of understand why people are upset, it would certainly be better that if they're going to charge that much more money, there could be more communication, and getting the holiday single out in the holidays etc, but we still get a lot more than some other fan clubs, so $50 a year isn't to bad in my opinion

    Why is there a need for better communication? Just email them or call them if your question is so important and they will answer any question you have. This message board isn't where questions are to be answered. Who actually cares when the Holiday single comes to your door as long as it does? I have been a member forever and I can't remember the last time it came before New Years if it ever has.
    Member 164xxx

    8/15/92, 9/28/96, 8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/18/98, 8/3/00, 8/9/00, 8/10/00, 8/23/00, 8/25/00, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 6/18/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/1/04, 10/3/05, 6/19/08, 10/27/09, 10/31/09, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/21/13

    More to Come....
  • Why should I have to email them to just get a stock response? Look at what happened with Live On Ten Legs, took them ages to announce anything, and just gave generic answers to anyone that did mail them.
  • Why should I have to email them to just get a stock response? Look at what happened with Live On Ten Legs, took them ages to announce anything, and just gave generic answers to anyone that did mail them.
    contact 10c and will solve your issues..better than anyone in the forum
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  • bazzerbazzer Posts: 3,126
    Why is there a need for better communication? Just email them or call them if your question is so important and they will answer any question you have. This message board isn't where questions are to be answered. Who actually cares when the Holiday single comes to your door as long as it does? I have been a member forever and I can't remember the last time it came before New Years if it ever has.
    I sort of agree with you, but I guess you've never emailed them with a question only to receive a stock answer that doesn't really address the issue you raised? Anyway, they do alright in my book so I'm not complaining.

    We've definitely received the Christmas single before New Years before, in the not too distant past. I live in NZ and I think even we got it before Christmas!
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