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Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
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I agree.

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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    I don't really understand why this is a big deal. It doesnt bother me a bit. Its not like they're doing it because they have a bunch of hard-up tsa agents who are horney. They're just trying to make us safer and feel more confident to fly.

    However, I dont really understand why they are suddenly conducting more screening. Is there a heightened stage of alert or thrreats??
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  • deskilladeskilla Posts: 279
    i agree, but the profilings still happened, especially for non white and or people from other country. i know we're all wanna have the safest travel, but does profilings does the job?
  • release23420release23420 Posts: 1,176
    all i say is these few things to those flipping out over it

    1) why are you bitching you dont fly enough for it to even matter
    2) its 2010 dont you realize chemistry an what those evil fucks figured out
    3) the airport pat down is way nicer than a police pat down
    4) those that say privacy issue its 2010 would like to hack in to the cams an see its really not as private as you think,
    5) last but not least dont fly if you dont like it
  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    They need to come up with some sort of containment unit that you walk through that will set off any explosives you may be carrying.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Shawshank wrote:
    They need to come up with some sort of containment unit that you walk through that will set off any explosives you may be carrying.

    Well don't they already have this. I know when i travel through Palm Beach International you had a choice of the metal detector or the machine where you stand on 2 outlined footprints for several seconds and a puff of air is blown over you. From there I gather they can detect whether or not you are carrying explosives or you've handled explosives.

    I think this TSA patdown is being blown out of proportion, what would we rather have someone to get a plane and cause harm to travelers or for sure be safer. However, could this be more about the TSA being a government agency under President Obama and his administration is intruding on the privacy of the traveling citizenry.

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    deskilla wrote:
    i agree, but the profilings still happened, especially for non white and or people from other country. i know we're all wanna have the safest travel, but does profilings does the job?

    I fly from time to time AND most always get checked ....me.. the white guy, so the profiling thing is bullshit at the airport.

    Godfather.
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  • release23420release23420 Posts: 1,176
    Godfather. wrote:
    deskilla wrote:
    i agree, but the profilings still happened, especially for non white and or people from other country. i know we're all wanna have the safest travel, but does profilings does the job?

    I fly from time to time AND most always get checked ....me.. the white guy, so the profiling thing is bullshit at the airport.

    Godfather.


    yeah me to usually either flying out or back in, i get one or more of the extra searches tsa does
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    what i find funny is that ... they always issue new changes after a security breach ... so, after the shoe bomber - you had to take your shoes off ... now, no more printer toner cartridges ... it's pretty obvious that they will always be one step behind any terrorist ...
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    If you firmly believe the current system is the way to go, then you better believe that it is also being half-assed. What about busses? Subways? With pilots actually being able to arm themselves and airport passengers ready to sacrifice themselves to stop another 9/11, a bomb on a plane is certainly no worse than one on a double decker bus, or in the subway. So where does it end? "If you don't want to be scanned or groped-- don't ride the bus. Don't ride the train. Don't enter a Courthouse, etc..." In America, we are innocent until provent guilty and have the right to be secure in our person. 9/11 took 3,000 lives and some large buildings-- horrible. That's what the terrorists did. Since then, in the name of defending "freedom and our way of life" our own government has done MORE to remove our rights from us than the actual terrorists, and have radicalized more people overseas. We are being defeated by defeating ourselves. Let's also not forget that TSA agents do NOT go through these procedures themselves, and that they have access to plane cargo, and that one of THEM could be a "mole" with better access to blow up a plane than almost anyone else. Profiling is not the answer. Radiation and groping is not the answer. Intelligence gathering combined with a sensible use of metal detctors, baggage screening, some bomb-sniffing dogs would be a better solution in combination with no access to armed pilots in the cockpit-- and that's my solution after 5 minutes of deliberation on this. If it were my job to sit around and think of how to do it better, I definitely would. Airport security should ultimately be up to the airlines, and not the government.

    And yes, there have been some serious abuses of this current system. Janet Napolitano said these things can't store images when they clearly can, and hundreds of pictures HAVE leaked from the machines-- better looking people (especially women) have been "randomly chosen" to have their naked pictures taken, people have had their genitalia and bodies made fun of, and others have experienced actual sexual assault from the pat downs. Don't believe me? Look it up, it's out there.

    This is no solution. It's the first step in introducing this to every form of public transportation. As a terrorist, why bother trying to blow up the plane when you can easier just blow up the airport itself, or some other public place.

    Terrorists instill fear, and their only mission is to disturb someone else's way of life. The only way to beat them is to not be afraid, and go on living our lives with our natural rights fully intact. The guy on the board here, He Still Stands puts it best, to paraphrase-- "Why don't we just cover everything out there with Nerf-style padding? Everyone and everything will be much safer and no one will ever get hurt."
    Sorry if I butchered that one, dude.
  • Electric_DeltaElectric_Delta Posts: 977
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    I don't really understand why this is a big deal. It doesnt bother me a bit. Its not like they're doing it because they have a bunch of hard-up tsa agents who are horney. They're just trying to make us safer and feel more confident to fly.

    However, I dont really understand why they are suddenly conducting more screening. Is there a heightened stage of alert or thrreats??

    I don't understand why the screenings are becoming more intrusive, but this is absolutely absurd.

    You're telling me it's acceptable to touch and fondle the private parts of law-abiding citizens in the name of security? Is this happening to the Muslim women attempting to board flights?
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  • Tenzing N.Tenzing N. Posts: 466
    The airlines are a good target because it causes the greatest disturbance/damage/death with the least amount of man power and the least risk to plot loss.

    The bottom line is there's just not enough people who are willing to sacrifice thier lives or freedom to actually carry out an attack. If an organization really wanted to cause mass damage to property life and economy they would gather thousands of people and execute a simultaneous attack on something like Starbucks or Walmart or a combination. There just aren't enough people to accomplish this.

    The airlines should never attempt to do security themselves simply because of how airports are constructed. That and the pressure to cut cost would result in lapses. Additionally the current TSA has access to info that private companies could not gather.

    The current system sort of works except we all know how it's accomplished. It's a bit like letting you enemies know all of your battle plans.

    There are also some pretty glaring holes in many parts of aviation. A passenger on a private or charter aircraft would simply have to walk up to the pilots (no doors) and harm them. They do not conduct searches, pat downs, metal detection or anything. Then they would have access to 20+ tons of high velocity explosives to do what ever with.
  • ShawshankShawshank Posts: 1,018
    g under p wrote:
    Shawshank wrote:
    Well don't they already have this. I know when i travel through Palm Beach International you had a choice of the metal detector or the machine where you stand on 2 outlined footprints for several seconds and a puff of air is blown over you.

    Ya they have those puffer machines in Tampa too. No, what I'm talking about is a containment unit where your explosives are actually ignited. Kinda like when they ask you if you have anything metal in your body before you get an MRI. If you lie to them, it's going to rip it right out of you. We need something like that, if you have something explosive, you better not lie about it before you step in. :lol:
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    polaris_x wrote:
    what i find funny is that ... they always issue new changes after a security breach ... so, after the shoe bomber - you had to take your shoes off ... now, no more printer toner cartridges ... it's pretty obvious that they will always be one step behind any terrorist ...

    I hope some terrorist does not trys to hide a bomb up in his ass. :lol:


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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    I don't understand why the screenings are becoming more intrusive, but this is absolutely absurd.

    You're telling me it's acceptable to touch and fondle the private parts of law-abiding citizens in the name of security? Is this happening to the Muslim women attempting to board flights?
    ...
    Really? You don't understand why you are being screened?
    ...
    And YES... Muslim women are being body scanned ot patted down... by female TSA Agents.
    ...
    You haven't been to an airport in a while, huh?
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  • Sludge FactorySludge Factory Posts: 976
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    If you firmly believe the current system is the way to go, then you better believe that it is also being half-assed. What about busses? Subways? With pilots actually being able to arm themselves and airport passengers ready to sacrifice themselves to stop another 9/11, a bomb on a plane is certainly no worse than one on a double decker bus, or in the subway. So where does it end? "If you don't want to be scanned or groped-- don't ride the bus. Don't ride the train. Don't enter a Courthouse, etc..." In America, we are innocent until provent guilty and have the right to be secure in our person. 9/11 took 3,000 lives and some large buildings-- horrible. That's what the terrorists did. Since then, in the name of defending "freedom and our way of life" our own government has done MORE to remove our rights from us than the actual terrorists, and have radicalized more people overseas. We are being defeated by defeating ourselves. Let's also not forget that TSA agents do NOT go through these procedures themselves, and that they have access to plane cargo, and that one of THEM could be a "mole" with better access to blow up a plane than almost anyone else. Profiling is not the answer. Radiation and groping is not the answer. Intelligence gathering combined with a sensible use of metal detctors, baggage screening, some bomb-sniffing dogs would be a better solution in combination with no access to armed pilots in the cockpit-- and that's my solution after 5 minutes of deliberation on this. If it were my job to sit around and think of how to do it better, I definitely would. Airport security should ultimately be up to the airlines, and not the government.

    And yes, there have been some serious abuses of this current system. Janet Napolitano said these things can't store images when they clearly can, and hundreds of pictures HAVE leaked from the machines-- better looking people (especially women) have been "randomly chosen" to have their naked pictures taken, people have had their genitalia and bodies made fun of, and others have experienced actual sexual assault from the pat downs. Don't believe me? Look it up, it's out there.

    This is no solution. It's the first step in introducing this to every form of public transportation. As a terrorist, why bother trying to blow up the plane when you can easier just blow up the airport itself, or some other public place.

    Terrorists instill fear, and their only mission is to disturb someone else's way of life. The only way to beat them is to not be afraid, and go on living our lives with our natural rights fully intact. The guy on the board here, He Still Stands puts it best, to paraphrase-- "Why don't we just cover everything out there with Nerf-style padding? Everyone and everything will be much safer and no one will ever get hurt."
    Sorry if I butchered that one, dude.

    Vinny, I find you more often than not to be the voice of reason in situations such as this. I can't believe how many people think that this is acceptable. None of this makes us any safer, it's all for show.

    What's next? Someone hides a bomb up their ass? What then? Do we all need to be anally probed then? Polarisx, you are absolutely right that the TSA is always one step behind and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

    What about Michael Chertoff? Doesn't anyone think it is a conflict of interests that a former head of Homeland Security is also profitting off of selling all these scanners to the airports?

    The following are just several of the assaults on people by the TSA that I found doing a random internet search:

    http://lewrockwell.com/orig3/monahan1.html
    http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/201 ... h-indecent
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-now-put ... pants.html (yes, yes, I know everyone here abhors prisonplanet, but it doesn't make the fact that this happened to this person any less real so I feel this article by them is relevant)
    http://www.ourlittlechatterboxes.com/

    I really think Ron Paul has hit the nail on the head with his speech on the floor of congress here:
    http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-11-17/ron-p ... -children/

    Any one of us would go to jail if we acted in a similar matter as the TSA.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Sludge Factory wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    If you firmly believe the current system is the way to go, then you better believe that it is also being half-assed. What about busses? Subways? With pilots actually being able to arm themselves and airport passengers ready to sacrifice themselves to stop another 9/11, a bomb on a plane is certainly no worse than one on a double decker bus, or in the subway. So where does it end? "If you don't want to be scanned or groped-- don't ride the bus. Don't ride the train. Don't enter a Courthouse, etc..." In America, we are innocent until provent guilty and have the right to be secure in our person. 9/11 took 3,000 lives and some large buildings-- horrible. That's what the terrorists did. Since then, in the name of defending "freedom and our way of life" our own government has done MORE to remove our rights from us than the actual terrorists, and have radicalized more people overseas. We are being defeated by defeating ourselves. Let's also not forget that TSA agents do NOT go through these procedures themselves, and that they have access to plane cargo, and that one of THEM could be a "mole" with better access to blow up a plane than almost anyone else. Profiling is not the answer. Radiation and groping is not the answer. Intelligence gathering combined with a sensible use of metal detctors, baggage screening, some bomb-sniffing dogs would be a better solution in combination with no access to armed pilots in the cockpit-- and that's my solution after 5 minutes of deliberation on this. If it were my job to sit around and think of how to do it better, I definitely would. Airport security should ultimately be up to the airlines, and not the government.

    And yes, there have been some serious abuses of this current system. Janet Napolitano said these things can't store images when they clearly can, and hundreds of pictures HAVE leaked from the machines-- better looking people (especially women) have been "randomly chosen" to have their naked pictures taken, people have had their genitalia and bodies made fun of, and others have experienced actual sexual assault from the pat downs. Don't believe me? Look it up, it's out there.

    This is no solution. It's the first step in introducing this to every form of public transportation. As a terrorist, why bother trying to blow up the plane when you can easier just blow up the airport itself, or some other public place.

    Terrorists instill fear, and their only mission is to disturb someone else's way of life. The only way to beat them is to not be afraid, and go on living our lives with our natural rights fully intact. The guy on the board here, He Still Stands puts it best, to paraphrase-- "Why don't we just cover everything out there with Nerf-style padding? Everyone and everything will be much safer and no one will ever get hurt."
    Sorry if I butchered that one, dude.

    Vinny, I find you more often than not to be the voice of reason in situations such as this. I can't believe how many people think that this is acceptable. None of this makes us any safer, it's all for show.

    What's next? Someone hides a bomb up their ass? What then? Do we all need to be anally probed then? Polarisx, you are absolutely right that the TSA is always one step behind and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

    What about Michael Chertoff? Doesn't anyone think it is a conflict of interests that a former head of Homeland Security is also profitting off of selling all these scanners to the airports?

    The following are just several of the assaults on people by the TSA that I found doing a random internet search:

    http://lewrockwell.com/orig3/monahan1.html
    http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/201 ... h-indecent
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-now-put ... pants.html (yes, yes, I know everyone here abhors prisonplanet, but it doesn't make the fact that this happened to this person any less real so I feel this article by them is relevant)
    http://www.ourlittlechatterboxes.com/

    I really think Ron Paul has hit the nail on the head with his speech on the floor of congress here:
    http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-11-17/ron-p ... -children/

    Any one of us would go to jail if we acted in a similar matter as the TSA.
    ...
    Seriously... I would hate to be the guy that has to look up my ass. You couldn't pay me enough to look up there... I know... i seen what comes out of there and I would hate to be the guy having to dig around in that thing. It's fucking rank.
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  • TriumphantAngelTriumphantAngel Posts: 1,760
    release23420 wrote:
    the airport pat down is way nicer than a police pat down
    way nicer? bit heavy handed don't you think? this is just ridiculous.

    TSA pat-down breaks cancer survivor’s urostomy bag and leaves him covered in urine

    A retired special education teacher on his way to a wedding in Orlando, Fla., said he was left humiliated, crying and covered with his own urine after an enhanced pat-down by TSA officers recently at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.

    “I was absolutely humiliated, I couldn’t even speak,” said Thomas D. “Tom” Sawyer, 61, of Lansing, Mich.

    Sawyer is a bladder cancer survivor who now wears a urostomy bag, which collects his urine from a stoma, or opening in his stomach. “I have to wear special clothes and in order to mount the bag I have to seal a wafer to my stomach and then attach the bag. If the seal is broken, urine can leak all over my body and clothes.”

    On Nov. 7, Sawyer said he went through the security scanner at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.

    “Evidently the scanner picked up on my urostomy bag, because I was chosen for a pat-down procedure.”

    Due to his medical condition, Sawyer asked to be screened in private. “One officer looked at another, rolled his eyes and said that they really didn’t have any place to take me,” said Sawyer. “After I said again that I’d like privacy, they took me to an office.”

    Sawyer wears pants two sizes too large in order to accommodate the medical equipment he wears. He’d taken off his belt to go through the scanner and once in the office with security personnel, his pants fell down around his ankles. “I had to ask twice if it was OK to pull up my shorts,” said Sawyer, “And every time I tried to tell them about my medical condition, they said they didn’t need to know about that
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Godfather. wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    what i find funny is that ... they always issue new changes after a security breach ... so, after the shoe bomber - you had to take your shoes off ... now, no more printer toner cartridges ... it's pretty obvious that they will always be one step behind any terrorist ...

    I hope some terrorist does not trys to hide a bomb up in his ass. :lol:


    Godfather.


    i dunno godfather ... a cheap thrill before flying might just keep everyone calm. ;)8-)
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    If you firmly believe the current system is the way to go, then you better believe that it is also being half-assed. What about busses? Subways? With pilots actually being able to arm themselves and airport passengers ready to sacrifice themselves to stop another 9/11, a bomb on a plane is certainly no worse than one on a double decker bus, or in the subway. So where does it end? "If you don't want to be scanned or groped-- don't ride the bus. Don't ride the train. Don't enter a Courthouse, etc..." In America, we are innocent until provent guilty and have the right to be secure in our person. 9/11 took 3,000 lives and some large buildings-- horrible. That's what the terrorists did. Since then, in the name of defending "freedom and our way of life" our own government has done MORE to remove our rights from us than the actual terrorists, and have radicalized more people overseas. We are being defeated by defeating ourselves. Let's also not forget that TSA agents do NOT go through these procedures themselves, and that they have access to plane cargo, and that one of THEM could be a "mole" with better access to blow up a plane than almost anyone else. Profiling is not the answer. Radiation and groping is not the answer. Intelligence gathering combined with a sensible use of metal detctors, baggage screening, some bomb-sniffing dogs would be a better solution in combination with no access to armed pilots in the cockpit-- and that's my solution after 5 minutes of deliberation on this. If it were my job to sit around and think of how to do it better, I definitely would. Airport security should ultimately be up to the airlines, and not the government.

    And yes, there have been some serious abuses of this current system. Janet Napolitano said these things can't store images when they clearly can, and hundreds of pictures HAVE leaked from the machines-- better looking people (especially women) have been "randomly chosen" to have their naked pictures taken, people have had their genitalia and bodies made fun of, and others have experienced actual sexual assault from the pat downs. Don't believe me? Look it up, it's out there.

    This is no solution. It's the first step in introducing this to every form of public transportation. As a terrorist, why bother trying to blow up the plane when you can easier just blow up the airport itself, or some other public place.

    Terrorists instill fear, and their only mission is to disturb someone else's way of life. The only way to beat them is to not be afraid, and go on living our lives with our natural rights fully intact. The guy on the board here, He Still Stands puts it best, to paraphrase-- "Why don't we just cover everything out there with Nerf-style padding? Everyone and everything will be much safer and no one will ever get hurt."
    Sorry if I butchered that one, dude.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    polaris_x wrote:
    what i find funny is that ... they always issue new changes after a security breach ... so, after the shoe bomber - you had to take your shoes off ... now, no more printer toner cartridges ... it's pretty obvious that they will always be one step behind any terrorist ...
    That shoe guy is a pain in the ass. Fuck him. He didn't kill anyone, but he annoyed the shit out of anyone who traveled after him.
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  • Sludge FactorySludge Factory Posts: 976
    Cosmo wrote:
    Sludge Factory wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    If you firmly believe the current system is the way to go, then you better believe that it is also being half-assed. What about busses? Subways? With pilots actually being able to arm themselves and airport passengers ready to sacrifice themselves to stop another 9/11, a bomb on a plane is certainly no worse than one on a double decker bus, or in the subway. So where does it end? "If you don't want to be scanned or groped-- don't ride the bus. Don't ride the train. Don't enter a Courthouse, etc..." In America, we are innocent until provent guilty and have the right to be secure in our person. 9/11 took 3,000 lives and some large buildings-- horrible. That's what the terrorists did. Since then, in the name of defending "freedom and our way of life" our own government has done MORE to remove our rights from us than the actual terrorists, and have radicalized more people overseas. We are being defeated by defeating ourselves. Let's also not forget that TSA agents do NOT go through these procedures themselves, and that they have access to plane cargo, and that one of THEM could be a "mole" with better access to blow up a plane than almost anyone else. Profiling is not the answer. Radiation and groping is not the answer. Intelligence gathering combined with a sensible use of metal detctors, baggage screening, some bomb-sniffing dogs would be a better solution in combination with no access to armed pilots in the cockpit-- and that's my solution after 5 minutes of deliberation on this. If it were my job to sit around and think of how to do it better, I definitely would. Airport security should ultimately be up to the airlines, and not the government.

    And yes, there have been some serious abuses of this current system. Janet Napolitano said these things can't store images when they clearly can, and hundreds of pictures HAVE leaked from the machines-- better looking people (especially women) have been "randomly chosen" to have their naked pictures taken, people have had their genitalia and bodies made fun of, and others have experienced actual sexual assault from the pat downs. Don't believe me? Look it up, it's out there.

    This is no solution. It's the first step in introducing this to every form of public transportation. As a terrorist, why bother trying to blow up the plane when you can easier just blow up the airport itself, or some other public place.

    Terrorists instill fear, and their only mission is to disturb someone else's way of life. The only way to beat them is to not be afraid, and go on living our lives with our natural rights fully intact. The guy on the board here, He Still Stands puts it best, to paraphrase-- "Why don't we just cover everything out there with Nerf-style padding? Everyone and everything will be much safer and no one will ever get hurt."
    Sorry if I butchered that one, dude.

    Vinny, I find you more often than not to be the voice of reason in situations such as this. I can't believe how many people think that this is acceptable. None of this makes us any safer, it's all for show.

    What's next? Someone hides a bomb up their ass? What then? Do we all need to be anally probed then? Polarisx, you are absolutely right that the TSA is always one step behind and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

    What about Michael Chertoff? Doesn't anyone think it is a conflict of interests that a former head of Homeland Security is also profitting off of selling all these scanners to the airports?

    The following are just several of the assaults on people by the TSA that I found doing a random internet search:

    http://lewrockwell.com/orig3/monahan1.html
    http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/201 ... h-indecent
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-now-put ... pants.html (yes, yes, I know everyone here abhors prisonplanet, but it doesn't make the fact that this happened to this person any less real so I feel this article by them is relevant)
    http://www.ourlittlechatterboxes.com/

    I really think Ron Paul has hit the nail on the head with his speech on the floor of congress here:
    http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-11-17/ron-p ... -children/

    Any one of us would go to jail if we acted in a similar matter as the TSA.
    ...
    Seriously... I would hate to be the guy that has to look up my ass. You couldn't pay me enough to look up there... I know... i seen what comes out of there and I would hate to be the guy having to dig around in that thing. It's fucking rank.

    LOL...truly the epitome of "shitty" jobs, I'd say
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    keeponrockin wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    what i find funny is that ... they always issue new changes after a security breach ... so, after the shoe bomber - you had to take your shoes off ... now, no more printer toner cartridges ... it's pretty obvious that they will always be one step behind any terrorist ...
    That shoe guy is a pain in the ass. Fuck him. He didn't kill anyone, but he annoyed the shit out of anyone who traveled after him.
    yes that guy was a dick. the new rules should have been everyone can fly with the usual security, except for him. he gets the full cavity search...
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I pretty much wear a robe and slippers when I fly. I used to wear a lot of layers so I didn't have to pack much... but, now... since they charge me to check a bag, I pack up everything.
    So... it is t-shirt, shorts, flip-flops. The only thing I'm carrying... wallet. All that other crap goes in a backpack i carry on.
    It'll be different if I ever go to Alaska in February... but, definately packing most of that crap these days.
    ...
    Scan away, boys.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    Electric_Delta wrote:
    I don't understand why the screenings are becoming more intrusive, but this is absolutely absurd.

    You're telling me it's acceptable to touch and fondle the private parts of law-abiding citizens in the name of security? Is this happening to the Muslim women attempting to board flights?
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    Really? You don't understand why you are being screened?
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    And YES... Muslim women are being body scanned ot patted down... by female TSA Agents.
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    You haven't been to an airport in a while, huh?

    no cosmo... E_D doesnt understand why the searches have become more intrusive.


    ive always laughed when i was swabbed for explosives cause its waste of their time... i know it and they probably know it too. the only reason i am swabbed/scanned/whatever is so racial profiling can be buried amongst 'random' searches.
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  • Brock SamsonBrock Samson Posts: 328
    stop randomly selecting people for pat downs. do it to everyone.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Brock Samson wrote:
    stop randomly selecting people for pat downs. do it to everyone.


    yes cause nothing said have a pleasant flight like waiting longer just to get touched up. ;)
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    catefrances wrote:
    no cosmo... E_D doesnt understand why the searches have become more intrusive.


    ive always laughed when i was swabbed for explosives cause its waste of their time... i know it and they probably know it too. the only reason i am swabbed/scanned/whatever is so racial profiling can be buried amongst 'random' searches.
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    Oh... okay.
    I think it's because that a-hole shoe bomber... it was sort of a coincidence that we all have to remove our shoes because of that dickhead.
    Then... to make matters worst... the ball sack bomber. They aren't making us drop trou to check... so, the only thing to do is the 'Naked Me' booth.
    If you don't want anyone to see your needle dick... you can opt for a cup check. instead of getting mad at the TSA... get mad at that fucking asshole that tried to hide a bomb... under his balls!!! That's the fucking guy we should be pissed at.
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    And who knows... someday, some dick will shove a stick of dynamite up his ass... hopefully the dogs will sniff that out, because really... who's shit smells like explosives? No one's, except the guy with a stick of dynamite up his ass.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...Then... to make matters worst... the ball sack bomber. They aren't making us drop trou to check... so, the only thing to do is the 'Naked Me' booth.
    If you don't want anyone to see your needle dick... you can opt for a cup check. instead of getting mad at the TSA... get mad at that fucking asshole that tried to hide a bomb... under his balls!!! That's the fucking guy we should be pissed at...


    that mustve been one small bomb... surely not enough to cause any real damage. ;)



    the thought of being touched by a total stranger makes me more apprehensive than the thought of the plane being hijacked or blown up. i cant really abide strnagers touching me. *shiver*
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