...Then... to make matters worst... the ball sack bomber. They aren't making us drop trou to check... so, the only thing to do is the 'Naked Me' booth.
If you don't want anyone to see your needle dick... you can opt for a cup check. instead of getting mad at the TSA... get mad at that fucking asshole that tried to hide a bomb... under his balls!!! That's the fucking guy we should be pissed at...
that mustve been one small bomb... surely not enough to cause any real damage.
the thought of being touched by a total stranger makes me more apprehensive than the thought of the plane being hijacked or blown up. i cant really abide strnagers touching me. *shiver*
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Then, go through the scanner. I've had to... it's funny. I tilt my head, crack a big smile and point at my crotch and the guy tells me to 'Keep you arm out, sir'. The other passengers in line get a kick out of it.
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...Then... to make matters worst... the ball sack bomber. They aren't making us drop trou to check... so, the only thing to do is the 'Naked Me' booth.
If you don't want anyone to see your needle dick... you can opt for a cup check. instead of getting mad at the TSA... get mad at that fucking asshole that tried to hide a bomb... under his balls!!! That's the fucking guy we should be pissed at...
that mustve been one small bomb... surely not enough to cause any real damage.
the thought of being touched by a total stranger makes me more apprehensive than the thought of the plane being hijacked or blown up. i cant really abide strnagers touching me. *shiver*
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Then, go through the scanner. I've had to... it's funny. I tilt my head, crack a big smile and point at my crotch and the guy tells me to 'Keep you arm out, sir'. The other passengers in line get a kick out of it.
oh i have no doubt id go through the scanner. might even tape a smilie face to my belly just for fun. or even better the bird.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
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stop randomly selecting people for pat downs. do it to everyone.
yes cause nothing said have a pleasant flight like waiting longer just to get touched up.
lol, if they're patting everyone down, you're not waiting any longer than anyone else.
i did like the one idea mentioned earlier in the thread...a self containing chamber that detonates any explosive devices. kinda like the chamber superman went in to make his powers disappear.
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Amazing that most of you have no problem going through a porno scanner or being sexually assaulted by some ignorant TSA thug, but you lose sleep and have serious issues with people from Arizona being asked for an ID.
Amazing that most of you have no problem going through a porno scanner or being sexually assaulted by some ignorant TSA thug, but you lose sleep and have serious issues with people from Arizona being asked for an ID.
the drama, oh, the drama and the false equivalence...
you sound like a Real Housewife of Beverly Hills...
Amazing that most of you have no problem going through a porno scanner or being sexually assaulted by some ignorant TSA thug, but you lose sleep and have serious issues with people from Arizona being asked for an ID.
When you use the melodramatic overtones like 'porno' and 'sexually assulted' and 'fondle', most half intelligent people realize that you are using scare tactics. Good angle though.. :roll:
When you use the melodramatic overtones like 'porno' and 'sexually assulted' and 'fondle', most half intelligent people realize that you are using scare tactics. Good angle though.. :roll:
So you have no problem with a stranger touching your penis/vagina and also having it done to your SO?
When you use the melodramatic overtones like 'porno' and 'sexually assulted' and 'fondle', most half intelligent people realize that you are using scare tactics. Good angle though.. :roll:
So you have no problem with a stranger touching your penis/vagina and also having it done to your SO?
Once again, your wording doesnt make sense to me. Of course I have a problem with someone touching my penis. Is anyone touching penises? No. They are essenttially frisking with more detail. Its over in 3 seconds.
Pat down my g/f's private area?.. I could care less. I know they are doing a job. Again its over in 3 seconds.
not sure, but I was under the impression that this was a govt thing.
When you use the melodramatic overtones like 'porno' and 'sexually assulted' and 'fondle', most half intelligent people realize that you are using scare tactics. Good angle though.. :roll:
So you have no problem with a stranger touching your penis/vagina and also having it done to your SO?
None... Like I've said in other threads, I've faced similar pat downs at concerts... If it bothered me that much, I wouldn't go... The scanner doesn't bother me in the least bit. I really don't care if some random person sees my junk...
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When you use the melodramatic overtones like 'porno' and 'sexually assulted' and 'fondle', most half intelligent people realize that you are using scare tactics. Good angle though.. :roll:
So you have no problem with a stranger touching your penis/vagina and also having it done to your SO?
again with the false equivalence...
do I want some stranger to touch my junk...? first question: is she hot...
seriously, I love how this is the talking point...huckabee has been peddling this one...as was some right-winger on the C. Matthews show last night...
When you use the melodramatic overtones like 'porno' and 'sexually assulted' and 'fondle', most half intelligent people realize that you are using scare tactics. Good angle though.. :roll:
So you have no problem with a stranger touching your penis/vagina and also having it done to your SO?
Once again, your wording doesnt make sense to me. Of course I have a problem with someone touching my penis. Is anyone touching penises? No. They are essenttially frisking with more detail. Its over in 3 seconds.
Pat down my g/f's private area?.. I could care less. I know they are doing a job. Again its over in 3 seconds.
not sure, but I was under the impression that this was a govt thing.
Uh...they are in fact touching penises and vaginas:
So you have no problem with a stranger touching your penis/vagina and also having it done to your SO?
Once again, your wording doesnt make sense to me. Of course I have a problem with someone touching my penis. Is anyone touching penises? No. They are essenttially frisking with more detail. Its over in 3 seconds.
Pat down my g/f's private area?.. I could care less. I know they are doing a job. Again its over in 3 seconds.
not sure, but I was under the impression that this was a govt thing.
Uh...they are in fact touching penises and vaginas:
Or look up Owen JJ Stone and his ordeal with the TSA agents and how one of them put his hands down Mr. Stone's pants for his search.
Really, they do that to everybody?! that's standard procedure now?
this is obviously an extreme case and that particular employee should be arrested and fired if there is concrete evidence that she did that to her.
The ones that are following the rules I have no problem with.
if they keep hiring people to do these searches that are lowlifes, there are going to be lawsuits galore. But if they are done properly, there shouldnt be a problem.
Amazing that most of you have no problem going through a porno scanner or being sexually assaulted by some ignorant TSA thug, but you lose sleep and have serious issues with people from Arizona being asked for an ID.
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Air travel is not a right. We CHOOSE to fly from here to there and back again. We can choose NOT to abide by the rules and laws set forth by air carriers and law enforcement by choosing not to fly. And it does not single out one segment of our citizens and give the rest of us a free pass.
It has just become part of the routine that comes with our choice to fly safely from L.A. to New York. You can avoid a pat down by simply passing through the scanner.
Finally... if you think someone is jacking off to a black and white image of someone standing there with arms streched out when there are hundreds or thousands of free pictures and videos of people fucking on the Internet... well... I don't even know what to say about that.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
stop randomly selecting people for pat downs. do it to everyone.
yes cause nothing said have a pleasant flight like waiting longer just to get touched up.
lol, if they're patting everyone down, you're not waiting any longer than anyone else.
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of course therell be a wait if the pat down is done correctly. youll be standing in a line waiting to be patted down wont you as opposed to the old days when you just waltzed through a metal detector?? and if theres no wait then its really not much of a pat down in the first place.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I've come to expect my doctor to put on that rubber glove, dab it in a jar of Vasaline and stick his finger up my ass. Molestation? If done by some random dude in a bar... Yup. In a doctor's office... Nope. It is just part of the deal and if I didn't want his finger up my ass... I'd stop going to see him.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Pat down my g/f's private area?.. I could care less. I know they are doing a job.
not sure, but I was under the impression that this was a govt thing.
Ok so you are ok with your girlfriend having her vagina touched by a stranger. So you don't have an issue if you are in a bar and someone does it?
now you're just being obtuse...
Is he?
Maybe Johnny's response will be that some random guy touching his girl's vagina isn't ok, but it is ok for the bouncer to do it? After all, the bouncer's role is safety of the bar.
Really, they do that to everybody?! that's standard procedure now?
this is obviously an extreme case and that particular employee should be arrested and fired if there is concrete evidence that she did that to her.
The ones that are following the rules I have no problem with.
if they keep hiring people to do these searches that are lowlifes, there are going to be lawsuits galore. But if they are done properly, there shouldnt be a problem.
From all appearances it is standard procedure now (see the Owen JJ Stone story if you haven't already). Regardless of whether or not the TSA actually has officially stated it. This is how they are going about many of their searches.
Regarding the lady who was sexually assaulted, the only reason I can see that they are admitting it was wrong was because the TSA agent failed to inform her before she was touched inappropriately, not that she was actually touched inappropriately. If you read the link I posted, it specifically says this:
"During our first conversation, the TSA acting manager of the shift told me that the TSA agent who sexually assaulted me was supposed to inform me about the new search procedure and tell me when and where she was going to touch me. He also apologized on behalf of himself and on behalf of the agent who sexually assaulted me. I was not allowed to speak to the agent who sexually assaulted me, nor did the acting manager provide me with her name. (I did not have the presence of mind to look at her nameplate, as I was in shock.)"
The acting manager apoligizes, not because she was sexually assualted, no, he apologizes because she wasn't informed prior to the assault just when and where and how she was to be assautled.
So, no, this is not obviously an extreme case. All you have to do is a quick internet search on TSA abuses and MULTIPLE cases are going to pop up. Not obviously extreme in the least.
Maybe Johnny's response will be that some random guy touching his girl's vagina isn't ok, but it is ok for the bouncer to do it? After all, the bouncer's role is safety of the bar.
ahh...move the goal posts to fit the narrative...
nicely done...
and yes, I feel s/he is being obtuse...
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Exactly. Substitute government for bouncer. It's ok to allow it if the government is doing it. If it happened at a bar it would be sexual assault, the government gets a pass though.
When did people start giving up their Rights so easily?
dude the airpot pat down takes like 30sec an there not talking shit to you while they do it ,, now the polce they like to be dick sometimes because they think they have power
the airport pat down is way nicer than a police pat down
way nicer? bit heavy handed don't you think? this is just ridiculous.
TSA pat-down breaks cancer survivor’s urostomy bag and leaves him covered in urine
A retired special education teacher on his way to a wedding in Orlando, Fla., said he was left humiliated, crying and covered with his own urine after an enhanced pat-down by TSA officers recently at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.
“I was absolutely humiliated, I couldn’t even speak,” said Thomas D. “Tom” Sawyer, 61, of Lansing, Mich.
Sawyer is a bladder cancer survivor who now wears a urostomy bag, which collects his urine from a stoma, or opening in his stomach. “I have to wear special clothes and in order to mount the bag I have to seal a wafer to my stomach and then attach the bag. If the seal is broken, urine can leak all over my body and clothes.”
On Nov. 7, Sawyer said he went through the security scanner at Detroit Metropolitan Airport.
“Evidently the scanner picked up on my urostomy bag, because I was chosen for a pat-down procedure.”
Due to his medical condition, Sawyer asked to be screened in private. “One officer looked at another, rolled his eyes and said that they really didn’t have any place to take me,” said Sawyer. “After I said again that I’d like privacy, they took me to an office.”
Sawyer wears pants two sizes too large in order to accommodate the medical equipment he wears. He’d taken off his belt to go through the scanner and once in the office with security personnel, his pants fell down around his ankles. “I had to ask twice if it was OK to pull up my shorts,” said Sawyer, “And every time I tried to tell them about my medical condition, they said they didn’t need to know about that
Amazing that most of you have no problem going through a porno scanner or being sexually assaulted by some ignorant TSA thug, but you lose sleep and have serious issues with people from Arizona being asked for an ID.
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Air travel is not a right. We CHOOSE to fly from here to there and back again. We can choose NOT to abide by the rules and laws set forth by air carriers and law enforcement by choosing not to fly. And it does not single out one segment of our citizens and give the rest of us a free pass.
It has just become part of the routine that comes with our choice to fly safely from L.A. to New York. You can avoid a pat down by simply passing through the scanner.
Finally... if you think someone is jacking off to a black and white image of someone standing there with arms streched out when there are hundreds or thousands of free pictures and videos of people fucking on the Internet... well... I don't even know what to say about that.
In the same breath unwarranted searches and seizures of American citizens is not a right that the government was granted. In fact they were specifically told that they COUDN'T do that.
When you purchase an air line ticket you do not wave your rights as an American citizen. It is a contract between you and the airline. Not you, the airline, and the government.
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I've come to expect my doctor to put on that rubber glove, dab it in a jar of Vasaline and stick his finger up my ass. Molestation? If done by some random dude in a bar... Yup. In a doctor's office... Nope. It is just part of the deal and if I didn't want his finger up my ass... I'd stop going to see him.
So now you are comparing someone who has attended 12+ years of medical school to someone who only needs a GED for a job?
Exactly. Substitute government for bouncer. It's ok to allow it if the government is doing it. If it happened at a bar it would be sexual assault, the government gets a pass though.
When did people start giving up their Rights so easily?
who's forcing you to go into that bar...?
you see, you have a right...a right to enter a bar or not enter a bar...
Exactly. Substitute government for bouncer. It's ok to allow it if the government is doing it. If it happened at a bar it would be sexual assault, the government gets a pass though.
When did people start giving up their Rights so easily?
When we all started to believe it was the government's job to take care of us from cradle to the grave apparently.
Amazing that most of you have no problem going through a porno scanner or being sexually assaulted by some ignorant TSA thug, but you lose sleep and have serious issues with people from Arizona being asked for an ID.
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Air travel is not a right. We CHOOSE to fly from here to there and back again. We can choose NOT to abide by the rules and laws set forth by air carriers and law enforcement by choosing not to fly. And it does not single out one segment of our citizens and give the rest of us a free pass.
It has just become part of the routine that comes with our choice to fly safely from L.A. to New York. You can avoid a pat down by simply passing through the scanner.
Finally... if you think someone is jacking off to a black and white image of someone standing there with arms streched out when there are hundreds or thousands of free pictures and videos of people fucking on the Internet... well... I don't even know what to say about that.
In the same breath unwarranted searches and seizures of American citizens is not a right that the government was granted. In fact they were specifically told that they COUDN'T do that.
When you purchase an air line ticket you do not wave your rights as an American citizen. It is a contract between you and the airline. Not you, the airline, and the government.
when you buy your ticket, you're aware you'll be searched...right...?
Exactly. Substitute government for bouncer. It's ok to allow it if the government is doing it. If it happened at a bar it would be sexual assault, the government gets a pass though.
When did people start giving up their Rights so easily?
When we all started to believe it was the government's job to take care of us from cradle to the grave apparently.
yeah, and screw the drinking age too...damn gov't, squashing the rights of teens to drink in a bar...
oh wait, that doesn't bother you...so you ignore it...funny how that works...
I've come to expect my doctor to put on that rubber glove, dab it in a jar of Vasaline and stick his finger up my ass. Molestation? If done by some random dude in a bar... Yup. In a doctor's office... Nope. It is just part of the deal and if I didn't want his finger up my ass... I'd stop going to see him.
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Then, go through the scanner. I've had to... it's funny. I tilt my head, crack a big smile and point at my crotch and the guy tells me to 'Keep you arm out, sir'. The other passengers in line get a kick out of it.
Hail, Hail!!!
oh i have no doubt id go through the scanner. might even tape a smilie face to my belly just for fun. or even better the bird.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
lol, if they're patting everyone down, you're not waiting any longer than anyone else.
i did like the one idea mentioned earlier in the thread...a self containing chamber that detonates any explosive devices. kinda like the chamber superman went in to make his powers disappear.
the drama, oh, the drama and the false equivalence...
you sound like a Real Housewife of Beverly Hills...
When you use the melodramatic overtones like 'porno' and 'sexually assulted' and 'fondle', most half intelligent people realize that you are using scare tactics. Good angle though.. :roll:
So you have no problem with a stranger touching your penis/vagina and also having it done to your SO?
Once again, your wording doesnt make sense to me. Of course I have a problem with someone touching my penis. Is anyone touching penises? No. They are essenttially frisking with more detail. Its over in 3 seconds.
Pat down my g/f's private area?.. I could care less. I know they are doing a job. Again its over in 3 seconds.
not sure, but I was under the impression that this was a govt thing.
again with the false equivalence...
do I want some stranger to touch my junk...? first question: is she hot...
seriously, I love how this is the talking point...huckabee has been peddling this one...as was some right-winger on the C. Matthews show last night...
Uh...they are in fact touching penises and vaginas:
http://www.ourlittlechatterboxes.com/20 ... sault.html
Or look up Owen JJ Stone and his ordeal with the TSA agents and how one of them put his hands down Mr. Stone's pants for his search.
Really, they do that to everybody?! that's standard procedure now?
this is obviously an extreme case and that particular employee should be arrested and fired if there is concrete evidence that she did that to her.
The ones that are following the rules I have no problem with.
if they keep hiring people to do these searches that are lowlifes, there are going to be lawsuits galore. But if they are done properly, there shouldnt be a problem.
Ok so you are ok with your girlfriend having her vagina touched by a stranger. So you don't have an issue if you are in a bar and someone does it?
Air travel is not a right. We CHOOSE to fly from here to there and back again. We can choose NOT to abide by the rules and laws set forth by air carriers and law enforcement by choosing not to fly. And it does not single out one segment of our citizens and give the rest of us a free pass.
It has just become part of the routine that comes with our choice to fly safely from L.A. to New York. You can avoid a pat down by simply passing through the scanner.
Finally... if you think someone is jacking off to a black and white image of someone standing there with arms streched out when there are hundreds or thousands of free pictures and videos of people fucking on the Internet... well... I don't even know what to say about that.
Hail, Hail!!!
of course therell be a wait if the pat down is done correctly. youll be standing in a line waiting to be patted down wont you as opposed to the old days when you just waltzed through a metal detector?? and if theres no wait then its really not much of a pat down in the first place.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
now you're just being obtuse...
Hail, Hail!!!
Is he?
Maybe Johnny's response will be that some random guy touching his girl's vagina isn't ok, but it is ok for the bouncer to do it? After all, the bouncer's role is safety of the bar.
From all appearances it is standard procedure now (see the Owen JJ Stone story if you haven't already). Regardless of whether or not the TSA actually has officially stated it. This is how they are going about many of their searches.
Regarding the lady who was sexually assaulted, the only reason I can see that they are admitting it was wrong was because the TSA agent failed to inform her before she was touched inappropriately, not that she was actually touched inappropriately. If you read the link I posted, it specifically says this:
"During our first conversation, the TSA acting manager of the shift told me that the TSA agent who sexually assaulted me was supposed to inform me about the new search procedure and tell me when and where she was going to touch me. He also apologized on behalf of himself and on behalf of the agent who sexually assaulted me. I was not allowed to speak to the agent who sexually assaulted me, nor did the acting manager provide me with her name. (I did not have the presence of mind to look at her nameplate, as I was in shock.)"
The acting manager apoligizes, not because she was sexually assualted, no, he apologizes because she wasn't informed prior to the assault just when and where and how she was to be assautled.
So, no, this is not obviously an extreme case. All you have to do is a quick internet search on TSA abuses and MULTIPLE cases are going to pop up. Not obviously extreme in the least.
ahh...move the goal posts to fit the narrative...
nicely done...
and yes, I feel s/he is being obtuse...
When did people start giving up their Rights so easily?
In the same breath unwarranted searches and seizures of American citizens is not a right that the government was granted. In fact they were specifically told that they COUDN'T do that.
When you purchase an air line ticket you do not wave your rights as an American citizen. It is a contract between you and the airline. Not you, the airline, and the government.
So now you are comparing someone who has attended 12+ years of medical school to someone who only needs a GED for a job?
And those doctors NEVER abuse patients, right?
who's forcing you to go into that bar...?
you see, you have a right...a right to enter a bar or not enter a bar...
ouch, that was hard...
When we all started to believe it was the government's job to take care of us from cradle to the grave apparently.
when you buy your ticket, you're aware you'll be searched...right...?
you do know that...right...? this is not new...
yeah, and screw the drinking age too...damn gov't, squashing the rights of teens to drink in a bar...
oh wait, that doesn't bother you...so you ignore it...funny how that works...
and what's your point...?