both Max and Lewis have legitimate beefs Max at the start and Lewis at the end
again, wish it was clean with no room for controversy
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You can't argue that it was the best decision for the spectators and the sport ... an exciting 1 lap finish to a championship season.
Agreed. And if Hamilton had pitted, Max would have stayed out, taking the lead. Then it would have been Hamilton on fresh tyres chasing Max that last lap. Mercedes played it safe and it cost them.
Both teams gambled at the end, and it paid off for one, but not the other. Safety car is the great equalizer in F1. Hate to see the championship decided on a controversial decision, but I understand the decision (let'em race to the end), and no one wants the final race decided by the safety car.
Both teams gambled at the end, and it paid off for one, but not the other. Safety car is the great equalizer in F1. Hate to see the championship decided on a controversial decision, but I understand the decision (let'em race to the end), and no one wants the final race decided by the safety car.
Agreed, but looks like it may be decided by lawyers, which will be a shame
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Both teams gambled at the end, and it paid off for one, but not the other. Safety car is the great equalizer in F1. Hate to see the championship decided on a controversial decision, but I understand the decision (let'em race to the end), and no one wants the final race decided by the safety car.
Agreed, but looks like it may be decided by lawyers, which will be a shame
“The FIA Stewards have dismissed Mercedes’ protests against the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix final classification,” Formula 1 said on its official Twitter feed.
I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess!
I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess!
I'm not sure about that. Mercedes barely had any time to decide whether to pit or not after Latifi hit the wall. There's no way they could have known how long the yellow would go on for.
I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess!
I think I agree, under Charlie Whiting, the race ends under the safety car. Masi and his team were very inconsistent the last few races with its decisions on cutting corners, track limits, causing contact etc. Just a shame the championship outcome is the result of a controversial call. Lewis had him beat.
I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess!
I think I agree, under Charlie Whiting, the race ends under the safety car. Masi and his team were very inconsistent the last few races with its decisions on cutting corners, track limits, causing contact etc. Just a shame the championship outcome is the result of a controversial call. Lewis had him beat.
I understand people want the championship to end as a race and not with the safety car but rules should be the rules and not enforced because it makes a better spectacle. There was no way this race shouldn’t have ended under the safety car and with that in mind merc made the right call not to pit. Looks foolish with hindsight once Masi decided to implement his own rules. What an absolute mess!
I think I agree, under Charlie Whiting, the race ends under the safety car. Masi and his team were very inconsistent the last few races with its decisions on cutting corners, track limits, causing contact etc. Just a shame the championship outcome is the result of a controversial call. Lewis had him beat.
That was f@#$#d. They (FIA) really seemed to have a focus on providing more actual racing but it was certainly done with inconsistency and questionable choices. That said I'm glad the DC record still stands tied.
I miss the days when BMW, Jaguar, Toyota and Honda were still around two tire/tyre suppliers and when you refueled in the pits. Added a lot more elements to the race
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didn’t want to see it end that way though
both Max and Lewis have legitimate beefs
Max at the start and Lewis at the end
again, wish it was clean with no room for controversy
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2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
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2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
I dont think it will end here
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2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
Yep, major dollars on the line.
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I’m not sure which is worse - seeing Little Man Horner whine like a bitch when they lose, or his smug face when they win.
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I think I agree, under Charlie Whiting, the race ends under the safety car. Masi and his team were very inconsistent the last few races with its decisions on cutting corners, track limits, causing contact etc. Just a shame the championship outcome is the result of a controversial call. Lewis had him beat.
This is a good discussion of the Abu Dhabi madness:
https://www.youtube.com/c/peterwindsor/videos
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two tire/tyre suppliers and when you refueled in the pits. Added a lot more elements to the race
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
cannot wait for the new season to begin! New modifications, hopefully a more competitive field, and some new tracks
and I need a new driver to cheer for now that Kimi retired
2003: St. Paul
2005: Thunder Bay
2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
2010: Boston
2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
2012: Missoula
2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
2022: Hamilton, Toronto
2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II