this is a quite a Celtics-Mavs game going on now. Also was last night's Spurs-Lakers' game discussed yet?
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I've a bad feeling about this game for the C's. :(
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What did I tell ya but it's not quite over yet.
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Also was last night's Spurs-Lakers' game discussed yet?
I made some money off of that game while in Vegas. It felt good to be drunk at the bar and shout at the TV and actually have a valid reason for doing so.
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Also was last night's Spurs-Lakers' game discussed yet?
I made some money off of that game while in Vegas. It felt good to be drunk at the bar and shout at the TV and actually have a valid reason for doing so.
I would never bet on basketball, too many meaningless baskets affecting point spreads. But that being said, I'd love to sit at the sports book on a 14-game NBA night and watch all the people who know nothing about various teams just go through the ebbs and flows of the games as the spread and over-unders are reached or not reached.
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Also was last night's Spurs-Lakers' game discussed yet?
I made some money off of that game while in Vegas. It felt good to be drunk at the bar and shout at the TV and actually have a valid reason for doing so.
I would never bet on basketball, too many meaningless baskets affecting point spreads. But that being said, I'd love to sit at the sports book on a 14-game NBA night and watch all the people who know nothing about various teams just go through the ebbs and flows of the games as the spread and over-unders are reached or not reached.
I bet on the terms that the Spurs would score the first 15 points. Luckily, I was right. I had faith in them coming out strong. I overall agree with you though, betting on basketball seems pretty risky.
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hey DC, you getting tickets for wednesday's game. :?:
hey DC, you getting tickets for wednesday's game. :?:
I'd like to...
Need to check the prices to see if I can swing it. The game is the day before payday. :evil:
If I can't make it in person though, I'll for sure be watching on the boob tube.
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not a ton of seats even for sale on this site or stub hub.
I had a feeling those tickets would go quick with the return of three former Jazzmen and everything.
I still only miss Korver. :twisted:
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how good are the seats in the upper deck?
anyways, it's a good game for you to skip, Bulls are going to put a beat down on the Jazz, or so i hope. Bulls are currently one of only a handful of teams without a 3 game skid this year.
anyways, it's a good game for you to skip, Bulls are going to put a beat down on the Jazz, or so i hope. Bulls are currently one of only a handful of teams without a 3 game skid this year.
As much as I love my team and will watch for support, I don't expect a win. Although the crowd should be great and that sometimes really propels our team to make a mad dash for the W.
Seats in the upper deck aren't bad if you're at the front of your section. Everything remaining for sale is either middle of, or in the complete back of those sections. I don't know, I'm already short for cash on this upcoming paycheck... I don't want to spend what money I have left on mediocre tickets when I can sit at home and watch the game and have beer for significantly cheaper.
With that being said...down with Chicago. I predict Boozer will play a big game, as will Big Al (who's been really taking off lately) and Rose will proove to us all again why he should no doubt be in the conversation of MVP.
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anyways, it's a good game for you to skip, Bulls are going to put a beat down on the Jazz, or so i hope. Bulls are currently one of only a handful of teams without a 3 game skid this year.
As much as I love my team and will watch for support, I don't expect a win. Although the crowd should be great and that sometimes really propels our team to make a mad dash for the W.
Seats in the upper deck aren't bad if you're at the front of your section. Everything remaining for sale is either middle of, or in the complete back of those sections. I don't know, I'm already short for cash on this upcoming paycheck... I don't want to spend what money I have left on mediocre tickets when I can sit at home and watch the game and have beer for significantly cheaper.
With that being said...down with Chicago. I predict Boozer will play a big game, as will Big Al (who's been really taking off lately) and Rose will proove to us all again why he should no doubt be in the conversation of MVP.
looking at the power ratings hollinger has the sixers as the 10th...jazz are 20th....bulls are 6.
:shock:
anyways, it's a good game for you to skip, Bulls are going to put a beat down on the Jazz, or so i hope. Bulls are currently one of only a handful of teams without a 3 game skid this year.
As much as I love my team and will watch for support, I don't expect a win. Although the crowd should be great and that sometimes really propels our team to make a mad dash for the W.
Seats in the upper deck aren't bad if you're at the front of your section. Everything remaining for sale is either middle of, or in the complete back of those sections. I don't know, I'm already short for cash on this upcoming paycheck... I don't want to spend what money I have left on mediocre tickets when I can sit at home and watch the game and have beer for significantly cheaper.
With that being said...down with Chicago. I predict Boozer will play a big game, as will Big Al (who's been really taking off lately) and Rose will proove to us all again why he should no doubt be in the conversation of MVP.
looking at the power ratings hollinger has the sixers as the 10th...jazz are 20th....bulls are 6.
:shock:
We're 6th in the West and are at 30-22, I think. But that sounds about the right power rating. Our play went from totally awesome at the beginning of the season and now we're starting to look unfocused, and not concerned.
It's annoying as shit. Sloan just signed yet another 1-year contract too.
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looking at the power ratings hollinger has the sixers as the 10th...jazz are 20th....bulls are 6.
:shock:
who is this hollinger? he clearly is overrating the sixers. i'd say udner rating the jazz. bulls might be a tick high as well.
espn insider.
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quick glance.
i'd have the Bulls at 5 behind Boston, Miami, LA and SA. I assume mr insider has dallas ahead of the bulls as well. imo, dallas is the most over rated team in the nba.
i'd put philly at 15
and i'd have utah somewhere in between. maybe 12
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i'd have the Bulls at 5 behind Boston, Miami, LA and SA. I assume mr insider has dallas ahead of the bulls as well. imo, dallas is the most over rated team in the nba.
i'd put philly at 15
and i'd have utah somewhere in between. maybe 12
they got two power rankings on espn....one is a more generic version that has the sixers one notch below the knicks at 17. jazz are 15 and bulls are 5.
this hollinger cat uses newer efficiency ratings/margin of vicories/sos/etc etc etc. this is the one with the sixers at 10. .....also projects final records based on simulating each team's remaining games 5,000 times each. he's got the sixers in the 6th seed at 42-40, 4 games behind the hawks........bulls with the 3 seed at 55 wins....jazz as the 8th seed in the west with 43 wins.
i'd have the Bulls at 5 behind Boston, Miami, LA and SA. I assume mr insider has dallas ahead of the bulls as well. imo, dallas is the most over rated team in the nba.
i'd put philly at 15
and i'd have utah somewhere in between. maybe 12
they got two power rankings on espn....one is a more generic version that has the sixers one notch below the knicks at 17. jazz are 15 and bulls are 5.
this hollinger cat uses newer efficiency ratings/margin of vicories/sos/etc etc etc. this is the one with the sixers at 10. .....also projects final records based on simulating each team's remaining games 5,000 times each. he's got the sixers in the 6th seed at 42-40, 4 games behind the hawks........bulls with the 3 seed at 55 wins....jazz as the 8th seed in the west with 43 wins.
I'm confident that we'll finish at the least #7. But I could be wrong.
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Breaking news here at the Salt Lake Tribune is saying that "Hearing reports that Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan and assistant coach Phil Johnson are planning to resign"
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Breaking news here at the Salt Lake Tribune is saying that "Hearing reports that Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan and assistant coach Phil Johnson are planning to resign"
:shock: :(
before the end of the season??
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Breaking news here at the Salt Lake Tribune is saying that "Hearing reports that Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan and assistant coach Phil Johnson are planning to resign"
Breaking news here at the Salt Lake Tribune is saying that "Hearing reports that Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan and assistant coach Phil Johnson are planning to resign"
Sloan just signed an contract extension :?:
reading the salt lake tribune now.
I know, but apparently he has his choice as to whether he definitely will remain at the end of the season. So my question is, what's the point of the contract then if he can go back on it??
If it's true, this will be a sad, sad day in Salt Lake City.
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3 p.m. Mountain Time @ The Jazz's practice center.
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This sucks. Looks like Utah might be stepping down from the top 8 of the West too?
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8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
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I'm goign to agree with some of the reports and say that Deron Williams compalining to the media about Sloan's system may have been the straw that broke the camel's back.
Deron, you're not the greatest leader either my friend.
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wow...
maybe williams should call up stockton and ask for his thoughts on the system.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
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I would never bet on basketball, too many meaningless baskets affecting point spreads. But that being said, I'd love to sit at the sports book on a 14-game NBA night and watch all the people who know nothing about various teams just go through the ebbs and flows of the games as the spread and over-unders are reached or not reached.
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I bet on the terms that the Spurs would score the first 15 points. Luckily, I was right. I had faith in them coming out strong. I overall agree with you though, betting on basketball seems pretty risky.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
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Need to check the prices to see if I can swing it. The game is the day before payday. :evil:
If I can't make it in person though, I'll for sure be watching on the boob tube.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
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http://www.redlinetickets.com/tickets/s ... tion=74626
not a ton of seats even for sale on this site or stub hub.
I had a feeling those tickets would go quick with the return of three former Jazzmen and everything.
I still only miss Korver. :twisted:
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
anyways, it's a good game for you to skip, Bulls are going to put a beat down on the Jazz, or so i hope. Bulls are currently one of only a handful of teams without a 3 game skid this year.
Seats in the upper deck aren't bad if you're at the front of your section. Everything remaining for sale is either middle of, or in the complete back of those sections. I don't know, I'm already short for cash on this upcoming paycheck... I don't want to spend what money I have left on mediocre tickets when I can sit at home and watch the game and have beer for significantly cheaper.
With that being said...down with Chicago. I predict Boozer will play a big game, as will Big Al (who's been really taking off lately) and Rose will proove to us all again why he should no doubt be in the conversation of MVP.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
looking at the power ratings hollinger has the sixers as the 10th...jazz are 20th....bulls are 6.
:shock:
We're 6th in the West and are at 30-22, I think. But that sounds about the right power rating. Our play went from totally awesome at the beginning of the season and now we're starting to look unfocused, and not concerned.
It's annoying as shit. Sloan just signed yet another 1-year contract too.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
who is this hollinger? he clearly is overrating the sixers. i'd say udner rating the jazz. bulls might be a tick high as well.
espn insider.
i'd have the Bulls at 5 behind Boston, Miami, LA and SA. I assume mr insider has dallas ahead of the bulls as well. imo, dallas is the most over rated team in the nba.
i'd put philly at 15
and i'd have utah somewhere in between. maybe 12
they got two power rankings on espn....one is a more generic version that has the sixers one notch below the knicks at 17. jazz are 15 and bulls are 5.
this hollinger cat uses newer efficiency ratings/margin of vicories/sos/etc etc etc. this is the one with the sixers at 10. .....also projects final records based on simulating each team's remaining games 5,000 times each. he's got the sixers in the 6th seed at 42-40, 4 games behind the hawks........bulls with the 3 seed at 55 wins....jazz as the 8th seed in the west with 43 wins.
I'm confident that we'll finish at the least #7. But I could be wrong.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
:shock: :(
before the end of the season??
Sloan just signed an contract extension :?:
reading the salt lake tribune now.
If it's true, this will be a sad, sad day in Salt Lake City.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
crazy...
i am shocked by this.
any word on when the press confrence is?
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
This sucks. Looks like Utah might be stepping down from the top 8 of the West too?
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
Deron, you're not the greatest leader either my friend.
6/12/08 - Tampa, FL
8/23/09 - Chicago, IL
9/28/09 - Salt Lake City, UT (11 years too long!!!)
9/03/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 1
9/04/11 - East Troy, WI - PJ20 - Night 2
maybe williams should call up stockton and ask for his thoughts on the system.