isnt' that the worst possible outcome? what we fear so much that iran will do?
war is killing little kids by the thousands, it is humanity at its worst. and any mention of iran is an attempt to demonize them or their leader......what is the point of that talk? do you want to see an invasion?
I do not want to see an invasion. But the way things are going, it looks more and more like Iran is bent on forcing a conflict. Either that, or they are delusional, and have utterly misread how other countries will react to their provocations.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
I do not want to see an invasion. But the way things are going, it looks more and more like Iran is bent on forcing a conflict. Either that, or they are delusional, and have utterly misread how other countries will react to their provocations.
your logic is flawed.
few countries, i would say none ever in the history of countries, would do something knowing it would lead to their destruction.
these are human beings in Iran, just like everybody else.
i am not taking your bait, but i said that because you and others foolishly assume that people like me "automatically take the anti-israel side" which is utterly and completely false.
i do not support netanyahu or most of his policies. i am entitled to my opinion. and as long as he is committing human rights violations (or allowing them to happen, blockade, flotilla, etc) and screwing around with the peace negotiations by asking for one of OUR prisoners, a spy for israel, to be freed in order to stop the settlements, he is wide open to criticism.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
You are certainly entitled to your opinions. But that wasn't meant as bait. I would like to know what you meant when you said that I am always "pro-Israel"?
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
Joe, I don't think there is much of a practical difference.
I know, but some people here are just so clever in disguising their true feelings, it is difficult to recognize the difference .
true feelings = defending Palestinians basic human rights and being critical of the Israeli government for the role they play in absuing those rights and defending an invasion of Iran which would see thousands of innocent people killed, including children.
or are you another one who thinks you can get away with wrongly accusing someone of being antisemetic in a sly, gutless, devious way?
because i'm making it known im sick to death of it. if it doesn't stop, and the mods continue to sit back and let it happen any longer, i'll take it further.
Commy, you're assuming that the Iranian regime is rational. The entire fear is that they aren't rational, that they actually believe their apocalyptic ideology/theology, and would be willing to act on it.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
Commy, you're assuming that the Iranian regime is rational. The entire fear is that they aren't rational, that they actually believe their apocalyptic ideology/theology, and would be willing to act on it.
where did that idea come from"?
iran's crime is being outside the empire.....as was Iraq's, as was afghanistans. it is being demonized and people led to believe they are irrational because they aren't under washington's jurisdiction, washington want's to change that.
(the axis of evil comment from junior bush included 3 countries outside the empire as well)
I do not want to see an invasion. But the way things are going, it looks more and more like Iran is bent on forcing a conflict. Either that, or they are delusional, and have utterly misread how other countries will react to their provocations.
And Israel isn't bent on forcing a conflict? Let's be honest: all the talk of war has come from Israel. In fact the Israeli leadership talks of war with Iran on an almost daily basis. But I can see how it may look to be the other way around if you turn reality on it's head.
Joe, I don't think there is much of a practical difference.
I know, but some people here are just so clever in disguising their true feelings, it is difficult to recognize the difference .
true feelings = defending Palestinians basic human rights and being critical of the Israeli government for the role they play in absuing those rights and defending an invasion of Iran which would see thousands of innocent people killed, including children.
or are you another one who thinks you can get away with wrongly accusing someone of being antisemetic in a sly, gutless, devious way?
because i'm making it known im sick to death of it. if it doesn't stop, and the mods continue to sit back and let it happen any longer, i'll take it further.
Sly, gutless & devious, eh? Now I have 3 words that best describe myself in case I am asked that question at a job interview!
If someone can round up some parchment paper and a pair of trumpetors, we will have one heck of a cool proclomation scene! Maybe add in the term "here-by" to make it even sound more official!
I know, but some people here are just so clever in disguising their true feelings, it is difficult to recognize the difference .
true feelings = defending Palestinians basic human rights and being critical of the Israeli government for the role they play in absuing those rights and defending an invasion of Iran which would see thousands of innocent people killed, including children.
or are you another one who thinks you can get away with wrongly accusing someone of being antisemetic in a sly, gutless, devious way?
because i'm making it known im sick to death of it. if it doesn't stop, and the mods continue to sit back and let it happen any longer, i'll take it further.
Sly, gutless & devious, eh? Now I have 3 words that best describe myself in case I am asked that question at a job interview!
If someone can round up some parchment paper and a pair of trumpetors, we will have one heck of a cool proclomation scene! Maybe add in the term "here-by" to make it even sound more official!
so you're sticking by what you said then? wrongful accusations of antisemetism?
Commy, I believe that Afghanistan, rather than being guilty of being "outside the empire," was actually guilty of sheltering the terrorist organization that, you know, flew a couple planes into a bunch of buildings and killed a whole lot of people.
And yeah, B, you know it's really weird that Israel would be hostile towards a country whose leaders talk about the destruction of Israel, who fund, train, and arm not one, but two terrorist organizations that regularly threaten and/or attack Israel, and that is developing nuclear weapons. I really can't for the life of me understand that. :roll:
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
I took it to be a reference to hostility towards Israel. I believe the discussion was about whether apologists for Iran are really motivated by hatred/dislike of Israel.
you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane
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isnt' that the worst possible outcome? what we fear so much that iran will do?
war is killing little kids by the thousands, it is humanity at its worst. and any mention of iran is an attempt to demonize them or their leader......what is the point of that talk? do you want to see an invasion?
Do you think they are apologizing for Iran, or automatically taking the anti-Israel stance?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I know, but some people here are just so clever in disguising their true feelings, it is difficult to recognize the difference
Enjoy your special status, my brother!
few countries, i would say none ever in the history of countries, would do something knowing it would lead to their destruction.
these are human beings in Iran, just like everybody else.
i do not support netanyahu or most of his policies. i am entitled to my opinion. and as long as he is committing human rights violations (or allowing them to happen, blockade, flotilla, etc) and screwing around with the peace negotiations by asking for one of OUR prisoners, a spy for israel, to be freed in order to stop the settlements, he is wide open to criticism.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
true feelings = defending Palestinians basic human rights and being critical of the Israeli government for the role they play in absuing those rights and defending an invasion of Iran which would see thousands of innocent people killed, including children.
or are you another one who thinks you can get away with wrongly accusing someone of being antisemetic in a sly, gutless, devious way?
because i'm making it known im sick to death of it. if it doesn't stop, and the mods continue to sit back and let it happen any longer, i'll take it further.
iran's crime is being outside the empire.....as was Iraq's, as was afghanistans. it is being demonized and people led to believe they are irrational because they aren't under washington's jurisdiction, washington want's to change that.
(the axis of evil comment from junior bush included 3 countries outside the empire as well)
And Israel isn't bent on forcing a conflict? Let's be honest: all the talk of war has come from Israel. In fact the Israeli leadership talks of war with Iran on an almost daily basis. But I can see how it may look to be the other way around if you turn reality on it's head.
Sly, gutless & devious, eh? Now I have 3 words that best describe myself in case I am asked that question at a job interview!
If someone can round up some parchment paper and a pair of trumpetors, we will have one heck of a cool proclomation scene! Maybe add in the term "here-by" to make it even sound more official!
what did you think he meant by it seeming you have decided to offer your opinion?
Are you saying that someone on the internet offered their opinion, even though they weren't asked to do so?
And yeah, B, you know it's really weird that Israel would be hostile towards a country whose leaders talk about the destruction of Israel, who fund, train, and arm not one, but two terrorist organizations that regularly threaten and/or attack Israel, and that is developing nuclear weapons. I really can't for the life of me understand that. :roll:
care to explain what you meant when you said "disguising their true feelings, and without having Yosi speak for you?
that might be of some help.
edit: because you did suggest people automatically take the anti-israel stance. right?
meaning?
He isn't speaking for me..he answered your question.
It is difficult to take you seriously when you take such a tone.
which has changed in the last 2 hours. funny about that.
It sounds as if you are an attorney trying to lead a witness!
that's all. you silence on that speaks volumes.
I am not being silent. I am just avoiding whatever little game you are playing.
it looks to me like you can't answer a simple fucking question.