i'm sorry but i don't see what was so crappy about this game.
there were way more crappy super bowls than this one in the 2 decades preceeding the year you mentioned.
I don't get all the talk about this being a lousy game either. Was it pristine, of course not, but It was close throughout, had plenty of 4th Q drama, had one QB start the game with 9 straight completions, had the other throw 16 straight completions at one point, several good plays, yes a few key drops, but a fairly clean game and highly competitive.
Easily beats the hell out of Ravens/Giants, Steeler/Seahawks, Bucs/Raiders, Colts/Bears and Broncos/Falcons if we're looking at games since 98. And right in line with most of the other games in that period.
Heck, even the revered Rams/Titans game which had such a dramatic finish was a horrible game at halftime, with the Rams leading a 9-0 snoozefest, this game was 10-9 at half with a score 8 seconds before the half.
i'm sorry but i don't see what was so crappy about this game.
there were way more crappy super bowls than this one in the 2 decades preceeding the year you mentioned.
I don't get all the talk about this being a lousy game either. Was it pristine, of course not, but It was close throughout, had plenty of 4th Q drama, had one QB start the game with 9 straight completions, had the other throw 16 straight completions at one point, several good plays, yes a few key drops, but a fairly clean game and highly competitive.
Easily beats the hell out of Ravens/Giants, Steeler/Seahawks, Bucs/Raiders, Colts/Bears and Broncos/Falcons if we're looking at games since 98. And right in line with most of the other games in that period.
Heck, even the revered Rams/Titans game which had such a dramatic finish was a horrible game at halftime, with the Rams leading a 9-0 snoozefest, this game was 10-9 at half with a score 8 seconds before the half.
Agreed on Steelers/Haws, Colts/Bears, Broncos/Falcons, and the Rams/Titans was the beginning of really shitty football played closely leading to overexaggeration of how good the games/teams were. However the Ravens-Giants was an awesome game when you step back and watch what one of the greatest defenses of all-time did to the Giants, same with Bucs-Raiders there was actual excellence on the field.
Where I differ from you guys is that I prefer watching a or, preferably two, team(s) on the top of their game just teeing off on the other. If it turns into the 9ers rolling the Broncos 55-10, Bears decimating the Pats 46-10, Cowboys smoking the Bills 52-17, and so on then so be it - at least we were sure the team that won was the actual best team at the end of the year. On top of that, when we did get close games they were freaking battles 9ers-Bengals I and II, Bills-Giants, Cowboys-Steelers I and II.
Now we get games so disjointed by 30 minute pre-games with needless talk of military (that was Bills-Giants fault) and ridiculous renditions of god bless tebow and america (thank a lot bin laden), 3 1/2 minute commercials, and 30 minute half-time shows that people think are edgy when someone flips the bird. This actually fundamentally changes the way the game is played (what other sport does this for its championship game?). The result is no one gets any rhythm on offense, the defense doesn't have to sub as much often dramatically tilting the game in favor of the team with the better dline (see: why the pats lost in 08, and a big help two days ago), and a game that has been made artificially close by lack of talent on the field (the drawback of the salary cap). So sure we get Pats-Rams, Panthers-Pats, Pats-Eagles (2 best teams), Rams-Tits, Steelers-Cards (I actually enjoyed this one a lot b/c Warner-Fitzgerald was epic), Gmen-Pats I and II, Pack-Steelers, Saints-Colts (2 best teams), and so on...but most of these games are overrated in their memorialization. For instance, does anyone remember how HORRIBLE eli was in his first SB, or big ben, or that Tom Brady has never taken his team any closer than the 30 yard-line on his supposed ice-in-veins GWSB drives - then relied on a kicker? The mythologizing of these QBs performances and the "close" Super Bowls make for great storytime, but don't reflect reality IMO.
, or that Tom Brady has never taken his team any closer than the 30 yard-line on his supposed ice-in-veins GWSB drives - then relied on a kicker? .
The game winner vs Carolina was a 41 yarder, so he drove them to the 23 or 24.
And as for the 2 GW drives for FG's:
A: Thats all he needed
2: They kicked because the clock was set to expire, not because the defense stopped Brady and co.,
I still marvel at the spike to stop the clock before the game winning field goal against the Rams at how cool and composed he was, bouncing the ball straight back up to his hand and flipping it around like the whole situation was just routine.
Most Qb's rely on their kicker when they are not down 4 points or more in thos 2 minute drills, just the nature of the game...just happens Bill Cundiff isn't as clutch as an Adam Vinatieri or we might be talking about Joe Flacco's MVP performance today.
, or that Tom Brady has never taken his team any closer than the 30 yard-line on his supposed ice-in-veins GWSB drives - then relied on a kicker? .
The game winner vs Carolina was a 41 yarder, so he drove them to the 23 or 24.
And as for the 2 GW drives for FG's:
A: Thats all he needed
2: They kicked because the clock was set to expire, not because the defense stopped Brady and co.,
I still marvel at the spike to stop the clock before the game winning field goal against the Rams at how cool and composed he was, bouncing the ball straight back up to his hand and flipping it around like the whole situation was just routine.
Most Qb's rely on their kicker when they are not down 4 points or more in thos 2 minute drills, just the nature of the game...just happens Bill Cundiff isn't as clutch as an Adam Vinatieri or we might be talking about Joe Flacco's MVP performance today.
there may have been a little subtle dig at pats fans superhero while they wallow in tears of sadness :twisted: . I can go further he won his first SB because of a magically invented rule (not true but fun to toss out), and a kicker, his second because a kicker launched a ball out of bounds and his kicker made one, and a third because the other team's qb puked all over himself. Since then he's impregnated a left a 2nd (if not 3rd woman) lost to Jake Plummer, Payton Manning, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, and Eli Manning...some guy :roll: .
there may have been a little subtle dig at pats fans superhero while they wallow in tears of sadness :twisted: . I can go further he won his first SB because of a magically invented rule (not true but fun to toss out), and a kicker, his second because a kicker launched a ball out of bounds and his kicker made one, and a third because the other team's qb puked all over himself. Since then he's impregnated a left a 2nd (if not 3rd woman) lost to Jake Plummer, Payton Manning, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Mark Sanchez, and Eli Manning...some guy :roll: .
yet you worship at the altar of king james who has won what again?
I'm taking my son to the game Friday for his 1st Birthday. Besides I was picking on saddened Pats fans, I thought you'd be with me on that one. Also, last I checked (def. could be wrong), Bron Bron may suck in the big moment (debatable - depending on which big moments we choose to look at since he basically carried the Heat to the Finals last year and the Cavs in '04), but he doesn't impregnate and run.
haha have you ever seen LeBron live? It's pretty ridiculous how much better he is than everyone else on the court - now if he could only consistently do that this playoffs...
fixer has been killing the tourney. 8-2 last weekend (coming off a bach party in NO where I somehow managed to win $15...was happy to be in the black since most of trip is a blur).
love the fact that shitty kansas keeps winning. lost money on unc this sunday, but it is worth it to have another chance to bet against this crap team.
and the kentucky lines cannot be made high enough. If only the sixers would lose some games so they could take gilchrist or jones. what beasts.
usually don't like faves, but kentucky and OSU both big on saturday.
fixer has been killing the tourney. 8-2 last weekend (coming off a bach party in NO where I somehow managed to win $15...was happy to be in the black since most of trip is a blur).
love the fact that shitty kansas keeps winning. lost money on unc this sunday, but it is worth it to have another chance to bet against this crap team.
and the kentucky lines cannot be made high enough. If only the sixers would lose some games so they could take gilchrist or jones. what beasts.
usually don't like faves, but kentucky and OSU both big on saturday.
This is my gambling offseason. I just can't bring myself to bet on hoops or baseball. Losing because some asshole misses a free throw or some jerkoff knocks down a meaningless 3 pointer is the worst. If I love a baseball matchup, maybe a little action. Besides that and the occasional trip to the casino for a little blackjack, I'm saving it for football season. My bachelor party in Vegas over labor day weekend will be the official kickoff to my gambling season...can't fucking wait.
fixer has been killing the tourney. 8-2 last weekend (coming off a bach party in NO where I somehow managed to win $15...was happy to be in the black since most of trip is a blur).
love the fact that shitty kansas keeps winning. lost money on unc this sunday, but it is worth it to have another chance to bet against this crap team.
and the kentucky lines cannot be made high enough. If only the sixers would lose some games so they could take gilchrist or jones. what beasts.
usually don't like faves, but kentucky and OSU both big on saturday.
This is my gambling offseason. I just can't bring myself to bet on hoops or baseball. Losing because some asshole misses a free throw or some jerkoff knocks down a meaningless 3 pointer is the worst. If I love a baseball matchup, maybe a little action. Besides that and the occasional trip to the casino for a little blackjack, I'm saving it for football season. My bachelor party in Vegas over labor day weekend will be the official kickoff to my gambling season...can't fucking wait.
dude, I hear you. I try not to bet on hoops or baseball either...just the tourney and some playoff hoops games. my bets are small though. nothing compared to the bombs I drop on football.
I hit vegas for my bach party as well a few years ago. pretty awesome. every bp should be in vegas or new orleans. people miss out otherwise. where you guys staying?
dude, I hear you. I try not to bet on hoops or baseball either...just the tourney and some playoff hoops games. my bets are small though. nothing compared to the bombs I drop on football.
I hit vegas for my bach party as well a few years ago. pretty awesome. every bp should be in vegas or new orleans. people miss out otherwise. where you guys staying?
Yeah, betting on football is definitely the way to go. Finally got my payout from my website for this past season...the super bowl was very good to me. Going w/ a bookie next year...no more messing around with these websites in Costa Rica.
We're staying at the flamingo.....big fan of that place. Great pool and nice location right in the middle of the strip. A friend of mine knows a guy out there and he's hooking us up pretty nice with a few suites and all that....that's where we always stay out there. It's a dual bachelor party for me and a friend...we have 20-25 guys going. It's going to be a fucking mess.
dude, I hear you. I try not to bet on hoops or baseball either...just the tourney and some playoff hoops games. my bets are small though. nothing compared to the bombs I drop on football.
I hit vegas for my bach party as well a few years ago. pretty awesome. every bp should be in vegas or new orleans. people miss out otherwise. where you guys staying?
Yeah, betting on football is definitely the way to go. Finally got my payout from my website for this past season...the super bowl was very good to me. Going w/ a bookie next year...no more messing around with these websites in Costa Rica.
We're staying at the flamingo.....big fan of that place. Great pool and nice location right in the middle of the strip. A friend of mine knows a guy out there and he's hooking us up pretty nice with a few suites and all that....that's where we always stay out there. It's a dual bachelor party for me and a friend...we have 20-25 guys going. It's going to be a fucking mess.
that. sounds. AWESOME
flamingo is a cool spot. right in the heart of everything.
when I read dual bach party I thought you were going to say you and your fiancee. and I was about to lose all respect for you. glad to hear that's not the case.
bookie is def the way to go. I don't trust those offshore sites
flamingo is a cool spot. right in the heart of everything.
when I read dual bach party I thought you were going to say you and your fiancee. and I was about to lose all respect for you. glad to hear that's not the case.
bookie is def the way to go. I don't trust those offshore sites
ha...I don't think I would respect myself if I was doing a dual bachelor party with the fiance. My buddy is getting married a month before me so we just figured it makes sense to combine and turn it into a complete shitshow.
Offshore sites are very shady...the way they paid me out this year was crazy. They sent me a visa gift card loaded with the money that they owed me. The gift card was sent from Europe. Then I just went to the ATM and withdrew the money. It was interesting, but at least I got paid.
Great day, first Union Rags wins and now the fight which I was sure I lost turns into a victory! Turned it off with a few seconds left, then I turn on the radio 15 minutes later to hear that Bradley won. Amazing considering he got his brains beat in for 11 of the 12 rounds.
Great day, first Union Rags wins and now the fight which I was sure I lost turns into a victory! Turned it off with a few seconds left, then I turn on the radio 15 minutes later to hear that Bradley won. Amazing considering he got his brains beat in for 11 of the 12 rounds.
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Easily beats the hell out of Ravens/Giants, Steeler/Seahawks, Bucs/Raiders, Colts/Bears and Broncos/Falcons if we're looking at games since 98. And right in line with most of the other games in that period.
Heck, even the revered Rams/Titans game which had such a dramatic finish was a horrible game at halftime, with the Rams leading a 9-0 snoozefest, this game was 10-9 at half with a score 8 seconds before the half.
Where I differ from you guys is that I prefer watching a or, preferably two, team(s) on the top of their game just teeing off on the other. If it turns into the 9ers rolling the Broncos 55-10, Bears decimating the Pats 46-10, Cowboys smoking the Bills 52-17, and so on then so be it - at least we were sure the team that won was the actual best team at the end of the year. On top of that, when we did get close games they were freaking battles 9ers-Bengals I and II, Bills-Giants, Cowboys-Steelers I and II.
Now we get games so disjointed by 30 minute pre-games with needless talk of military (that was Bills-Giants fault) and ridiculous renditions of god bless tebow and america (thank a lot bin laden), 3 1/2 minute commercials, and 30 minute half-time shows that people think are edgy when someone flips the bird. This actually fundamentally changes the way the game is played (what other sport does this for its championship game?). The result is no one gets any rhythm on offense, the defense doesn't have to sub as much often dramatically tilting the game in favor of the team with the better dline (see: why the pats lost in 08, and a big help two days ago), and a game that has been made artificially close by lack of talent on the field (the drawback of the salary cap). So sure we get Pats-Rams, Panthers-Pats, Pats-Eagles (2 best teams), Rams-Tits, Steelers-Cards (I actually enjoyed this one a lot b/c Warner-Fitzgerald was epic), Gmen-Pats I and II, Pack-Steelers, Saints-Colts (2 best teams), and so on...but most of these games are overrated in their memorialization. For instance, does anyone remember how HORRIBLE eli was in his first SB, or big ben, or that Tom Brady has never taken his team any closer than the 30 yard-line on his supposed ice-in-veins GWSB drives - then relied on a kicker? The mythologizing of these QBs performances and the "close" Super Bowls make for great storytime, but don't reflect reality IMO.
And as for the 2 GW drives for FG's:
A: Thats all he needed
2: They kicked because the clock was set to expire, not because the defense stopped Brady and co.,
I still marvel at the spike to stop the clock before the game winning field goal against the Rams at how cool and composed he was, bouncing the ball straight back up to his hand and flipping it around like the whole situation was just routine.
Most Qb's rely on their kicker when they are not down 4 points or more in thos 2 minute drills, just the nature of the game...just happens Bill Cundiff isn't as clutch as an Adam Vinatieri or we might be talking about Joe Flacco's MVP performance today.
i think rw's just hating...
yet you worship at the altar of king james who has won what again?
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went 2-1 yesterday (fsu, vandy winners; michigan loser)
Looking good today. sixers +3 hit, fsu +6, vandy +8
Love the dogs this time of year
St Marys is prob my favorite. I like cincinnati a lot (love betting against rick barnes). Creighton and Xavier.
Games look tough
love the fact that shitty kansas keeps winning. lost money on unc this sunday, but it is worth it to have another chance to bet against this crap team.
and the kentucky lines cannot be made high enough. If only the sixers would lose some games so they could take gilchrist or jones. what beasts.
usually don't like faves, but kentucky and OSU both big on saturday.
This is my gambling offseason. I just can't bring myself to bet on hoops or baseball. Losing because some asshole misses a free throw or some jerkoff knocks down a meaningless 3 pointer is the worst. If I love a baseball matchup, maybe a little action. Besides that and the occasional trip to the casino for a little blackjack, I'm saving it for football season. My bachelor party in Vegas over labor day weekend will be the official kickoff to my gambling season...can't fucking wait.
dude, I hear you. I try not to bet on hoops or baseball either...just the tourney and some playoff hoops games. my bets are small though. nothing compared to the bombs I drop on football.
I hit vegas for my bach party as well a few years ago. pretty awesome. every bp should be in vegas or new orleans. people miss out otherwise. where you guys staying?
Yeah, betting on football is definitely the way to go. Finally got my payout from my website for this past season...the super bowl was very good to me. Going w/ a bookie next year...no more messing around with these websites in Costa Rica.
We're staying at the flamingo.....big fan of that place. Great pool and nice location right in the middle of the strip. A friend of mine knows a guy out there and he's hooking us up pretty nice with a few suites and all that....that's where we always stay out there. It's a dual bachelor party for me and a friend...we have 20-25 guys going. It's going to be a fucking mess.
that. sounds. AWESOME
flamingo is a cool spot. right in the heart of everything.
when I read dual bach party I thought you were going to say you and your fiancee. and I was about to lose all respect for you. glad to hear that's not the case.
bookie is def the way to go. I don't trust those offshore sites
ha...I don't think I would respect myself if I was doing a dual bachelor party with the fiance. My buddy is getting married a month before me so we just figured it makes sense to combine and turn it into a complete shitshow.
Offshore sites are very shady...the way they paid me out this year was crazy. They sent me a visa gift card loaded with the money that they owed me. The gift card was sent from Europe. Then I just went to the ATM and withdrew the money. It was interesting, but at least I got paid.
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I cannot fucking wait for CFB
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INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18259710
Jun 09 08:41 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[1728] 1H HEAT (MIA) -4-110
220 / 200
-220
LOSE
LOSE
06/09/2012 08:25 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18259711
Jun 09 08:41 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[31341] TOTAL o32-140 POINTS BY LEBRON JAMES
70 / 50
-70
LOSE
LOSE
06/09/2012 08:25 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18259712
Jun 09 08:41 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[31345] TOTAL o5½-125 ASSISTS BY LEBRON JAMES
188 / 150
-188
LOSE
LOSE
06/09/2012 08:25 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18259713
Jun 09 08:41 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[31349] TOT PTS+REB-LEBRON JAMES o41-125
63 / 50
50
WIN
WIN
06/09/2012 08:25 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18259714
Jun 09 08:41 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[31351] TOT PTS+AST-LEBRON JAMES o37-140
70 / 50
-70
LOSE
LOSE
06/09/2012 08:25 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18259715
Jun 09 08:41 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[31353] TOT PTS+REB+AST-LEBRON JAMES o46½-140
140 / 100
-140
LOSE
LOSE
06/09/2012 08:25 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18259709
Jun 09 08:41 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[728] HEAT (MIA) -8-110
385 / 350
350
WIN
WIN
06/09/2012 08:25 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18261242
Jun 09 10:05 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[5728] 3Q HEAT (MIA) -4-115
115 / 100
100
WIN
WIN
06/09/2012 09:49 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18261155
Jun 09 10:05 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[2728] 2H HEAT (MIA) -9-110
220 / 200
200
WIN
WIN
06/09/2012 09:48 PM
INTERNET / -1 Ticket #: 18261285
Jun 09 10:07 PM
NBA
STRAIGHT BET
[6728] 4Q HEAT (MIA) - NO OT -4½-105
53 / 50
50
WIN
WIN
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congrats on the win though...that's awesome
Heat +6 tonight (small)
Surprised the Heat are that much of a dog for the series.....
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