they sway a ton of their fans who hang on everything they say and do. Which is why this thread was started to begin with.
That's the point of "celebrity endorsement," can you name one major candidate who doesn't have a famous supporter? Sometimes it works, though most of the time it doesn't.
The reason I started this thread was because they've been vocal during the last two Presidential races (2000 & '04). Just curious about their (as a group and individuals) plans this year.
He's basically said that if we dug up the body of a former US president and gave him the role of POTUS, that he would be better than what we have now.
( I actually couldn't understand everything he said even though I wasn't so far away because ya know- it's Ed)
You must be the change you want to see in the world
-Gandhi
Pearl Jam doesn't know shit about politics.....their ridiculous support of Ralph Nader in 2000, brought us Bush. And the whole vote for change thing didn't do much good for us either. I'd say the person they aren't supporting will win.
What is there to know about politics? You either have an opinion about something one way or another.
All anyone could ask is that you form an opinion off of the facts.
What should it matter what Ed or the others vote for? All that matters is that feeling in your gut when you vote that tells you this is the person who is going to give your future a chance. That you truly know what your pick for prez really stands for, not just the hype, but the facts, past and present.
I just have to say;
It literally hurts to read those who deny the right of woman to be president, based not on her ability or experience, but instead on her possible, but unknown PMS problems.
Or to deny a man who stands proudly black calling him a "tiger woods". What the hell does that mean?
What the hell is wrong with either of them? What does it have to do with what they stand for. Do you honestly know the facts on their stands?
By the way, human beings cry, men, women and children. It's emotion, it means your not a robot for christ sakes. If you say you've never had the emotion to cry, you honestly have not lived a life.
Pure and simple, ignorance is the thing that pisses me off beyond everything else.
Pearl Jam doesn't know shit about politics.....their ridiculous support of Ralph Nader in 2000, brought us Bush. And the whole vote for change thing didn't do much good for us either. I'd say the person they aren't supporting will win.
What is there to know about politics? You either have an opinion about something one way or another.
I'm sure if the band is consist of idiots, they wouldn't be supporting any of these causes. "Politics" doesn't have to be associated solely on government laws and policies. Being an activist is being political too. http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/PearlJam/activism/alist.html
Admittedly, I'm not too concern with some of the listed organization PJ endorsed. But I'm not gonna say they're meaningless or they're shit.
All anyone could ask is that you form an opinion off of the facts.
What should it matter what Ed or the others vote for? All that matters is that feeling in your gut when you vote that tells you this is the person who is going to give your future a chance. That you truly know what your pick for prez really stands for, not just the hype, but the facts, past and present.
I just have to say;
It literally hurts to read those who deny the right of woman to be president, based not on her ability or experience, but instead on her possible, but unknown PMS problems.
Or to deny a man who stands proudly black calling him a "tiger woods". What the hell does that mean?
What the hell is wrong with either of them? What does it have to do with what they stand for. Do you honestly know the facts on their stands?
By the way, human beings cry, men, women and children. It's emotion, it means your not a robot for christ sakes. If you say you've never had the emotion to cry, you honestly have not lived a life.
Pure and simple, ignorance is the thing that pisses me off beyond everything else.
I really appreciate the sentiment of the above post, strong work.
If anyone actually wants a good website to view what these candidates actually stand for on certain issues please visit the following:
You can look at all of the major players and compare them quickly on 16 majore issues. This put together by a bunch of Harvard students who do it for free and without bias as a way to educate (primarily younger) voters. Personally, I'm with Stone and I like Obama for a lot of reasons but probably mostly because I'm inspired that the U.S. might actually be something that I could have patriotism in again - or for the first time in my life. Starting wars, ruining the environment, leaving the poor out to rot, and falling off the map in education and science research doesn't exactly have my pride swelling these days.
All anyone could ask is that you form an opinion off of the facts.
What should it matter what Ed or the others vote for? All that matters is that feeling in your gut when you vote that tells you this is the person who is going to give your future a chance. That you truly know what your pick for prez really stands for, not just the hype, but the facts, past and present.
I just have to say;
It literally hurts to read those who deny the right of woman to be president, based not on her ability or experience, but instead on her possible, but unknown PMS problems.
Or to deny a man who stands proudly black calling him a "tiger woods". What the hell does that mean?
What the hell is wrong with either of them? What does it have to do with what they stand for. Do you honestly know the facts on their stands?
By the way, human beings cry, men, women and children. It's emotion, it means your not a robot for christ sakes. If you say you've never had the emotion to cry, you honestly have not lived a life.
Pure and simple, ignorance is the thing that pisses me off beyond everything else.
people cry.....no doubt....
and people who voted for hillary because she cried....
should be kicked right in the ass.....
like you said.....ignorance pisses me off....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
All anyone could ask is that you form an opinion off of the facts.
What should it matter what Ed or the others vote for? All that matters is that feeling in your gut when you vote that tells you this is the person who is going to give your future a chance. That you truly know what your pick for prez really stands for, not just the hype, but the facts, past and present.
I just have to say;
It literally hurts to read those who deny the right of woman to be president, based not on her ability or experience, but instead on her possible, but unknown PMS problems.
Or to deny a man who stands proudly black calling him a "tiger woods". What the hell does that mean?
What the hell is wrong with either of them? What does it have to do with what they stand for. Do you honestly know the facts on their stands?
By the way, human beings cry, men, women and children. It's emotion, it means your not a robot for christ sakes. If you say you've never had the emotion to cry, you honestly have not lived a life.
Pure and simple, ignorance is the thing that pisses me off beyond everything else.
wow, ok. so much gets lost in translation here. So, here goes.......
Ok. I think everyone should be able to cry......that simple. I do, however, think that I do not trust Hillary Clinton---based on MY perception, that's all and so her "crying" was (to me ) the equal of her hubby saying t people, "I feel your pain", total manipulative bullshit. She did it to appeal to the women--I think and I have heard a news reporter who said the same thing the very next morning of me thinking that after it happened...so I am not alone in that nor am I original......
"I" (as in me, alone and I don't need you or anyone to agree with me to validate this opinion---it is mine,is all) do not think a woman should be president........(did I mention I am a woman??).
I think that we all have strengths and weaknesses and I am mature enough to accept mine as an individual as well as a gender and strive to strengthen the ones that are my strengths, fix or achieve what yet hasn't been, and don't mourn over what is just the way it is, and waste my time. Here's an example of what I mean...........
women went into the workplace........great we should be able to support ourselves as well as contribute to society, etc. But som of those same women are wives and mothers, so here now we the total opposite of the whole "women's rights" thing going on because now, in contradiction of the "advertisements" that show working woman's home life, where the man is helping out doing 50% of the home stuff and she the other, more women come home, and then still have to do all of the work as if she didn't work all day as well as he did. So I look at the hole women's movement thing as a big fat guy with a cigar saying, "Ok honey, you go to work" and then come home and clean, take care of the kids, etc. while her hubby veges out on the couch because "he" worked all day. Maybe in Seattle it's different but here, I have seen this more than the other way of him helping too.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
All anyone could ask is that you form an opinion off of the facts.
What should it matter what Ed or the others vote for? All that matters is that feeling in your gut when you vote that tells you this is the person who is going to give your future a chance. That you truly know what your pick for prez really stands for, not just the hype, but the facts, past and present.
I just have to say;
It literally hurts to read those who deny the right of woman to be president, based not on her ability or experience, but instead on her possible, but unknown PMS problems.
Or to deny a man who stands proudly black calling him a "tiger woods". What the hell does that mean?
What the hell is wrong with either of them? What does it have to do with what they stand for. Do you honestly know the facts on their stands?
By the way, human beings cry, men, women and children. It's emotion, it means your not a robot for christ sakes. If you say you've never had the emotion to cry, you honestly have not lived a life.
Pure and simple, ignorance is the thing that pisses me off beyond everything else.
Ok, here is part 2 of your issues with my opinion.......
you remind me of that guy who goes on you tube defending Britney Spears and cries over her life without a clue on the truth.....so here goes.
I do not care if a black man is president----his morals, values, strengths and outlooks on the world would determine whether or not I liked him and was going to vote for him or not.
That said, Obama is not a "black guy", he is a priveleged young man who knows little about what the average black man, or woman for that matter go throught in there lives. I doubt it very many black people would think that he represents them truly because his life is not at all like theirs may habve been as a whole race, even in recent days with the things they have to come against on a daily basis in order to rise above their circumstances. And this is 2008, and still happening, so they do have a lot to go through if they want to achieve certain things that they have not yet seen.
So, I still stand on my beliefs and opinions here, and if I am alone in them then let's just agree to disagree and get over it.
I don't need to talk anyone into my thinking---I don't care to nor need to, but because you seem to have missed the whole point of why I think what i think, I wanted to clear things up just for the sake of clarity.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
yeah, as a woman, myself, I still do not believe that a woman should be president. That has nothing to do with whether or not they are intelligent or equipt for the job or any of that; there are many many smart woman in the world. I just think that our qualities we are born with, genetically, or if you could say (cause I am saying this is my reasoning)God given strengths that are given to each sex to balance it all out.
And as for me, many days during this war, during my emotional times by mood or calendar, I would have pressed the red button or whatever the heck the thing is that just puts places into crumbles........
so count me out. a man for president is better for me as long as he is honestly trying to do his job.
And shit, didn';t Hillary see A League Of Their Own
THERE'S NO CRYING IN POLITICS!!!HILLARY...
(she didn't even cry when her hubby did that chick with the cigar
oh no now I get it.........people say she is a lesbian---he has to have sex with a cigar, get it?)
if not feel free to let me sit here and talk to myself...........I understand me
nope, I'm #1) old
#2) scared
#3) paranoid
#4)trust no one
#5)I have kids so I am voting republican too.............
otherwise God knows what will be considered the norm. I Have no problem with new ideas, I just hate it when I see these political figures go back and forth so much you gotta wonder just WHAT IT IS they stand for? You know?
I haven't done too much individual research on them...I only know Hillary is out for me because #1, she is a woman and number 2, I do not respect her for what she put up with when her husband was in office and I can see people voting for Obama because (excuse the comparison---I am just pointing out how sick us "white folk" can be.......)he is like Tiger Woods; a fair skinned black man, (i.e.,my Greek aunts saying something like, 'you know that young fellow could pass for an Italian'. get my point? any other republicans for consideration?
I think Eddie would agree with Ron Paul on a lot of things, but would also disagree vehemently on a few things. Paul is a strict pro-lifer for one. My guess is they'll probably come out for Obama if he gets the nod, and for Nader if Hillary gets the nod, which looks to be the only way Nader would run
nope, I'm #1) old
#2) scared
#3) paranoid
#4)trust no one
#5)I have kids so I am voting republican too.............
otherwise God knows what will be considered the norm. I Have no problem with new ideas, I just hate it when I see these political figures go back and forth so much you gotta wonder just WHAT IT IS they stand for? You know?
I haven't done too much individual research on them...I only know Hillary is out for me because #1, she is a woman and number 2, I do not respect her for what she put up with when her husband was in office and I can see people voting for Obama because (excuse the comparison---I am just pointing out how sick us "white folk" can be.......)he is like Tiger Woods; a fair skinned black man, (i.e.,my Greek aunts saying something like, 'you know that young fellow could pass for an Italian'. get my point? any other republicans for consideration?
If I was in Pearljam I would not want you as a fan!!!! From what I have gathered in this post and many of the others you have written, you are a bigot, a racist, looking to blow people up, and pretty much a psycho religious fanatic!! I'm sorry it came to this. I will not respond to your posts again.
If I was in Pearljam I would not want you as a fan!!!! From what I have gathered in this post and many of the others you have written, you are a bigot, a racist, looking to blow people up, and pretty much a psycho religious fanatic!! I'm sorry it came to this. I will not respond to your posts again.
and you are a god..........
get over yourself. I never asked for you to like me or respond. These threads are suppose to ask each other questions that we are grown up enough to take it that not everyone thinks like we do. I have never insulted anyone here until I have gotten so sick of the crybabies like you who can't take it when someone disagrees with them. grow up.
And Pearl Jam can probably care less about just what I or anyone else think,they have lives and are ALL adults who understand that only when we are young do we get all fired up because someone might not agree. you must really need to be agreed with for some reason.
Say what you want, do not respond if you still feel that way, but I will say just as a statement to those people I have responded to here as well as you that I am not any of those things that you have called me. I have always been humble and said that my thoughts come from my own life and never do I want nor expect to hurt anyone or judge anyone because I do not claim all of my convictions as anything more than a temporary thought that can be ripped away from me at anytime upon something else happening to me in my life that may blow me away, kick me in the shins, bring me to my knees and let me know once again.........I am nothing in the grand scope of this universe. I am sorry that I offended you .............
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I think Eddie would agree with Ron Paul on a lot of things, but would also disagree vehemently on a few things. Paul is a strict pro-lifer for one. My guess is they'll probably come out for Obama if he gets the nod, and for Nader if Hillary gets the nod, which looks to be the only way Nader would run
I don't think Ed would support R. Paul. Ed blabs on about anti-war and all that, but if he had a choice between someone who really is anti-war (Paul) and someone who pretends to be anti-war but also leans more toward socialism (see all democrats except maybe Kucinich & Gravel-maybe), he'd pick the socialism candidate.
Not that my speculation on who Ed would vote for matters, but it just seems to me that socialism is more important to Ed than the war.
For example, Noam Chomsky, a person known for his anti-war stance recently said he'd vote for Hillary over Paul. Even though Paul voted against the war and Hillary voted for it. He just can't handle Paul's solid belief in the free market.
Not that Chomsky and Vedder are the same person, but I think they share similar ideas. Just an example.
(1) How many people on here miss overwhelmingly obvious sarcasm, and
(2) How a thread asking if Ed/PJ have publicly endorsed a candidate can be interpreted as "Who do you personally like and why... oh, and if you have any racist or sexist comments to make, please make them now."
"You are everything, and everything is you. Me, you... you, me -- it's all related."
I hope to Christ that they don't waste their time, any effort or money, or encourage their fans to vote for a useless third party candidate.
Look what happened last time we had one of those.
"If you're looking for someone to pull you out of that ditch, you're out of luck."
Pearl Jam doesn't know shit about politics.....their ridiculous support of Ralph Nader in 2000, brought us Bush. And the whole vote for change thing didn't do much good for us either. I'd say the person they aren't supporting will win.
Ignorance!
You have zero knowledge of American politics! PJ supported someone they believed in and campaigned for him... Period.
Now...did that have an effect on the Dems vs the GOP?...somewhat...but why should they give their support to a candidate they didn't really stand behind?
Here's how it works: Find someone you believe in more than any other candidate (take the time to read up and listen to all of them). Get out and be active (volunteer or take part in intelligent conversations about why you think they are the right choice).Then make sure you get out and vote on Tuesday!
One other thing. It appears to me that the people who don't know shit about politics are the ones who voted GW in for the second time...or the liberals who couldn't get off their asses to go out vote and make a difference!
This time however...is already proving to be a different ballgame.
Yes...I am a liberal...and a patriot.
Make a difference! Get out and vote!
"Had my eyes peeled both wide open, and I got a glimpse...of my innocense, got back my inner sence, baby got it...still got it"
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...he also said he just got a Bush in '09 tattoo...
San Diego 2003
Grand Rapids 2004
Grand Rapids 2006
Detroit 2006
Columbus 2010
"With my own two hands I can change the world."
The reason I started this thread was because they've been vocal during the last two Presidential races (2000 & '04). Just curious about their (as a group and individuals) plans this year.
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that seems to be the norm......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Ever heard the song Bu$hleager? PROOF!!!
http://www.myspace.com/lizardkings1
(This Post May Have Been Edited By AT&T)
Ever heard Ed rant?
He's basically said that if we dug up the body of a former US president and gave him the role of POTUS, that he would be better than what we have now.
( I actually couldn't understand everything he said even though I wasn't so far away because ya know- it's Ed)
-Gandhi
All anyone could ask is that you form an opinion off of the facts.
What should it matter what Ed or the others vote for? All that matters is that feeling in your gut when you vote that tells you this is the person who is going to give your future a chance. That you truly know what your pick for prez really stands for, not just the hype, but the facts, past and present.
I just have to say;
It literally hurts to read those who deny the right of woman to be president, based not on her ability or experience, but instead on her possible, but unknown PMS problems.
Or to deny a man who stands proudly black calling him a "tiger woods". What the hell does that mean?
What the hell is wrong with either of them? What does it have to do with what they stand for. Do you honestly know the facts on their stands?
By the way, human beings cry, men, women and children. It's emotion, it means your not a robot for christ sakes. If you say you've never had the emotion to cry, you honestly have not lived a life.
Pure and simple, ignorance is the thing that pisses me off beyond everything else.
http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/PearlJam/activism/alist.html
Admittedly, I'm not too concern with some of the listed organization PJ endorsed. But I'm not gonna say they're meaningless or they're shit.
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I really appreciate the sentiment of the above post, strong work.
If anyone actually wants a good website to view what these candidates actually stand for on certain issues please visit the following:
http://votegopher.com/index.php
You can look at all of the major players and compare them quickly on 16 majore issues. This put together by a bunch of Harvard students who do it for free and without bias as a way to educate (primarily younger) voters. Personally, I'm with Stone and I like Obama for a lot of reasons but probably mostly because I'm inspired that the U.S. might actually be something that I could have patriotism in again - or for the first time in my life. Starting wars, ruining the environment, leaving the poor out to rot, and falling off the map in education and science research doesn't exactly have my pride swelling these days.
and people who voted for hillary because she cried....
should be kicked right in the ass.....
like you said.....ignorance pisses me off....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
this is hilarious!
Why contain yourself like any other book on the shelf?
Subtle voices in the wind hear the truth they're telling.
A world begins where the road ends.
Watch me leave it all behind.
ah, yeah, just listen to one of the many "Bush" banter/bashings at countless shows.
that should be proof enough.
Why contain yourself like any other book on the shelf?
Subtle voices in the wind hear the truth they're telling.
A world begins where the road ends.
Watch me leave it all behind.
wow, ok. so much gets lost in translation here. So, here goes.......
Ok. I think everyone should be able to cry......that simple. I do, however, think that I do not trust Hillary Clinton---based on MY perception, that's all and so her "crying" was (to me ) the equal of her hubby saying t people, "I feel your pain", total manipulative bullshit. She did it to appeal to the women--I think and I have heard a news reporter who said the same thing the very next morning of me thinking that after it happened...so I am not alone in that nor am I original......
"I" (as in me, alone and I don't need you or anyone to agree with me to validate this opinion---it is mine,is all) do not think a woman should be president........(did I mention I am a woman??).
I think that we all have strengths and weaknesses and I am mature enough to accept mine as an individual as well as a gender and strive to strengthen the ones that are my strengths, fix or achieve what yet hasn't been, and don't mourn over what is just the way it is, and waste my time. Here's an example of what I mean...........
women went into the workplace........great we should be able to support ourselves as well as contribute to society, etc. But som of those same women are wives and mothers, so here now we the total opposite of the whole "women's rights" thing going on because now, in contradiction of the "advertisements" that show working woman's home life, where the man is helping out doing 50% of the home stuff and she the other, more women come home, and then still have to do all of the work as if she didn't work all day as well as he did. So I look at the hole women's movement thing as a big fat guy with a cigar saying, "Ok honey, you go to work" and then come home and clean, take care of the kids, etc. while her hubby veges out on the couch because "he" worked all day. Maybe in Seattle it's different but here, I have seen this more than the other way of him helping too.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Ok, here is part 2 of your issues with my opinion.......
you remind me of that guy who goes on you tube defending Britney Spears and cries over her life without a clue on the truth.....so here goes.
I do not care if a black man is president----his morals, values, strengths and outlooks on the world would determine whether or not I liked him and was going to vote for him or not.
That said, Obama is not a "black guy", he is a priveleged young man who knows little about what the average black man, or woman for that matter go throught in there lives. I doubt it very many black people would think that he represents them truly because his life is not at all like theirs may habve been as a whole race, even in recent days with the things they have to come against on a daily basis in order to rise above their circumstances. And this is 2008, and still happening, so they do have a lot to go through if they want to achieve certain things that they have not yet seen.
So, I still stand on my beliefs and opinions here, and if I am alone in them then let's just agree to disagree and get over it.
I don't need to talk anyone into my thinking---I don't care to nor need to, but because you seem to have missed the whole point of why I think what i think, I wanted to clear things up just for the sake of clarity.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Nothing was lost in translation.
I wonder how Mike "Evolution is not true, Earth is 6000 years old" Huckabee would react if he heard Cropduster
And I think Ed is supporting the grammar candidate
I think Eddie would agree with Ron Paul on a lot of things, but would also disagree vehemently on a few things. Paul is a strict pro-lifer for one. My guess is they'll probably come out for Obama if he gets the nod, and for Nader if Hillary gets the nod, which looks to be the only way Nader would run
Thats intelligent, lets put a Muslim in charge of the country so we can roll over and get into position for the ass-raping that will surely follow.
good, then.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
...and believe when I say this I'm more afraid of Christians than I am of Muslims. Most of them are millions of miles far away from me.
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MOST of them are; but I am a Christian and I am NOT. but I am not like anyone else........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
If I was in Pearljam I would not want you as a fan!!!! From what I have gathered in this post and many of the others you have written, you are a bigot, a racist, looking to blow people up, and pretty much a psycho religious fanatic!! I'm sorry it came to this. I will not respond to your posts again.
and you are a god..........
get over yourself. I never asked for you to like me or respond. These threads are suppose to ask each other questions that we are grown up enough to take it that not everyone thinks like we do. I have never insulted anyone here until I have gotten so sick of the crybabies like you who can't take it when someone disagrees with them. grow up.
And Pearl Jam can probably care less about just what I or anyone else think,they have lives and are ALL adults who understand that only when we are young do we get all fired up because someone might not agree. you must really need to be agreed with for some reason.
Say what you want, do not respond if you still feel that way, but I will say just as a statement to those people I have responded to here as well as you that I am not any of those things that you have called me. I have always been humble and said that my thoughts come from my own life and never do I want nor expect to hurt anyone or judge anyone because I do not claim all of my convictions as anything more than a temporary thought that can be ripped away from me at anytime upon something else happening to me in my life that may blow me away, kick me in the shins, bring me to my knees and let me know once again.........I am nothing in the grand scope of this universe. I am sorry that I offended you .............
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Fixed that for you.
I don't think Ed would support R. Paul. Ed blabs on about anti-war and all that, but if he had a choice between someone who really is anti-war (Paul) and someone who pretends to be anti-war but also leans more toward socialism (see all democrats except maybe Kucinich & Gravel-maybe), he'd pick the socialism candidate.
Not that my speculation on who Ed would vote for matters, but it just seems to me that socialism is more important to Ed than the war.
For example, Noam Chomsky, a person known for his anti-war stance recently said he'd vote for Hillary over Paul. Even though Paul voted against the war and Hillary voted for it. He just can't handle Paul's solid belief in the free market.
Not that Chomsky and Vedder are the same person, but I think they share similar ideas. Just an example.
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(1) How many people on here miss overwhelmingly obvious sarcasm, and
(2) How a thread asking if Ed/PJ have publicly endorsed a candidate can be interpreted as "Who do you personally like and why... oh, and if you have any racist or sexist comments to make, please make them now."
Look what happened last time we had one of those.
Ignorance!
You have zero knowledge of American politics! PJ supported someone they believed in and campaigned for him... Period.
Now...did that have an effect on the Dems vs the GOP?...somewhat...but why should they give their support to a candidate they didn't really stand behind?
Here's how it works: Find someone you believe in more than any other candidate (take the time to read up and listen to all of them). Get out and be active (volunteer or take part in intelligent conversations about why you think they are the right choice).Then make sure you get out and vote on Tuesday!
One other thing. It appears to me that the people who don't know shit about politics are the ones who voted GW in for the second time...or the liberals who couldn't get off their asses to go out vote and make a difference!
This time however...is already proving to be a different ballgame.
Yes...I am a liberal...and a patriot.
Make a difference! Get out and vote!