NCAA College Football -

Degeneratefk

HesCalledDyer said:

To hell with Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Alabama all three.  WHY THE HELL WASN'T CENTRAL FLORIDA IN??!!!

Undefeated. Check.
Conference Champs. Check.
Manhandle the team that mandhandled both teams appearing in the CFP title game. Check.

I agree. I felt from the beginning of this playoff system that ANY undefeated team should get in. It's hard to go undefeated no matter what conference you play for. But the only way to get a team like UCF in is to expand to 6 teams. And I'm not sure that would be a good thing. I like the 4 team playoff structure.

northerndragon

Degeneratefk said:

HesCalledDyer said:

To hell with Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Alabama all three.  WHY THE HELL WASN'T CENTRAL FLORIDA IN??!!!

Undefeated. Check.
Conference Champs. Check.
Manhandle the team that mandhandled both teams appearing in the CFP title game. Check.

I agree. I felt from the beginning of this playoff system that ANY undefeated team should get in. It's hard to go undefeated no matter what conference you play for. But the only way to get a team like UCF in is to expand to 6 teams. And I'm not sure that would be a good thing. I like the 4 team playoff structure.

Dumb

darwinstheory

F Me In The Brain said:

lolobugg said:

Man, the haters are coming out on here!

Roll Muthaf*cking Tide, Wobbie!

Not sure why people like to hate on winners.  For my money, give me classic match-ups.

Lakers v Celtics?  Oh, yeah!
Yanks v Dodgers?  Yep.
Habs v Bruins?  Give me more.
Niners & Pats?  This is my dream SB.

For NCAA...the sport is better when at least a handful of the teams listed below are playing at a high level.  There cannot be too many of them excelling!

Florida
LSU
Penn State
Florida State
Miami
Michigan
Texas
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
USC
Ohio State
Alabama

This doesn't mean that I don't root for Clemson or Georgia or some program like that who turns the flame up for a period and gets some time in the spotlight.  I could argue that it might be better for there to be a traditional powerhouse or 2 and a few party crashers in the playoffs each season.  Might be more fun that way. 

Haters can root for their Royals vs. Brewers matchups all they want -- but not many people tune in when that is the scenario.

I agree with this. College football Saturdays are not just about watching my team, but monitoring the entire top 25 and really, really hating on a bunch of teams on this list (USC, Michigan and the Florida trio). But when one of these schools is in the dumps, it's no fun. When Michigan or USC just had some bad years, it took a lot of excitement out of the games/rivalries. 

I liken it to when the Cubs won the world series. The start of the year was awesome for the Cubs/Sox rivalry. Through mid-May they were about the 2 best teams in baseball. It even made the trash talk fun. By September, it just wasn't as much fun to talk shit. Now, after they won it all, I didn't give a flying rats ass, I made sure everyone I came across knew the Cubs had won the 2016 World Series.

Degeneratefk

northerndragon said:

Degeneratefk said:

HesCalledDyer said:

To hell with Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Alabama all three.  WHY THE HELL WASN'T CENTRAL FLORIDA IN??!!!

Undefeated. Check.
Conference Champs. Check.
Manhandle the team that mandhandled both teams appearing in the CFP title game. Check.

I agree. I felt from the beginning of this playoff system that ANY undefeated team should get in. It's hard to go undefeated no matter what conference you play for. But the only way to get a team like UCF in is to expand to 6 teams. And I'm not sure that would be a good thing. I like the 4 team playoff structure.

Dumb

Only dumb if you have No concept or understanding of basic football concepts. Oh wait, consider the source.

ehbacon

for the record, I root against teams like the Patriots and Alabama because if they win the championship it means nothing to them or their fans. It would mean so much more for a team like Wisconsin, who has never seen a national championship game, to get the opportunity. We hate them because there are an insane amount of FBS teams that are shit year after year, and this team gets disappointing when they don't win the championship game? fuck out of here. Plus 95% of their fans never went to their school, they are the ultimate bandwagon team. That sucks because we all know as soon as Bama turns to shit, they'll all flee the bandwagon in an instant. They have the worst fans in all of college football.

lolobugg

ehbacon said:

for the record, I root against teams like the Patriots and Alabama because if they win the championship it means nothing to them or their fans. It would mean so much more for a team like Wisconsin, who has never seen a national championship game, to get the opportunity. We hate them because there are an insane amount of FBS teams that are shit year after year, and this team gets disappointing when they don't win the championship game? fuck out of here. Plus 95% of their fans never went to their school, they are the ultimate bandwagon team. That sucks because we all know as soon as Bama turns to shit, they'll all flee the bandwagon in an instant. They have the worst fans in all of college football.

I appreciate you speaking for me and assuming that a National Championship doesn't mean anything....

It means everything, every year.... I guess you would have to pull for a team that has won one to understand.

F Me In The Brain

Bama has the worst fans? 
I don't know...I have not been to most stadiums to witness their fans -- or have the experience of their fans coming to visit a game at a stadium I was at.

I think Ohio State has some obnoxious fans...they do have a great history to back it up, and they pack their big ass stadium every home game...so it is tough to say they are bad.  They are just passionate.

Cal fans suck -- one of the big reasons is because their team always sucks.  Why do you run mouth so much when you finally have a halfway decent team?

As a fan of a traditional power in College Football I welcome the hate.  Hate, hate, and more hate.  Does USC count success by Rose Bowls, National Titles, Heisman Trophys, NFL First Round Draft Picks, and NFL Hall of Famers?  Yes.  Yes, we do.

I love SEC fans when I meet them and talk to them.  They (on average -- a generalization here) care significantly more than the rest of us do.  Are they obnoxious?  Sure.  Isn't that part of the fun?

Would it mean more to you if Wisconsin went to the title game than it would to me if USC went back to a title game? 
How do you know?  (It might...but how do I know & how do you know?)

The blanket statements made here crack me up.

I love college football -- that people feel so strongly about it is a beautiful thing.  Keep hating -- it is a strong emotion, at least, and it makes things fun!

KC138045

I didn't think Ohio State or Alabama really "deserved" to get in.  Alabama weak resume plus not winning their conference and Ohio States loss to Iowa.  Plus with JT at QB the buckeyes offense was mediocre at best against USC.  The Defense won that game.

Yes I know OSU got in last year without winning the Big 10 but they were #2 two going into the Michigan game and beat OU on the road.  Washington kept PSU out last year not the Buckeyes.

Back to this year I didn't think Alabama looked all that impressive the other night.  It was more how shitty Clemson looked.  Maybe they were the ones that should of been left out.  I know this is lame reasoning but take away the two pics in the 3rd and that was a 10-6 crappy football game.

lolobugg

KC138045 said:

I didn't think Ohio State or Alabama really "deserved" to get in.  Alabama weak resume plus not winning their conference and Ohio States loss to Iowa.  Plus with JT at QB the buckeyes offense was mediocre at best against USC.  The Defense won that game.

Yes I know OSU got in last year without winning the Big 10 but they were #2 two going into the Michigan game and beat OU on the road.  Washington kept PSU out last year not the Buckeyes.

Back to this year I didn't think Alabama looked all that impressive the other night.  It was more how shitty Clemson looked.  Maybe they were the ones that should of been left out.  I know this is lame reasoning but take away the two pics in the 3rd and that was a 10-6 crappy football game.

so who would you have voted for?

UCF? 

Bama played the best defensive game of their season (so far) on Monday night.

it helped getting 3 of our linebackers back.

northerndragon

ehbacon said:

for the record, I root against teams like the Patriots and Alabama because if they win the championship it means nothing to them or their fans. It would mean so much more for a team like Wisconsin, who has never seen a national championship game, to get the opportunity. We hate them because there are an insane amount of FBS teams that are shit year after year, and this team gets disappointing when they don't win the championship game? fuck out of here. Plus 95% of their fans never went to their school, they are the ultimate bandwagon team. That sucks because we all know as soon as Bama turns to shit, they'll all flee the bandwagon in an instant. They have the worst fans in all of college football.

Just as an FYI, being an Alabama fan is a birthright. It is in their bloodline. Through good and bad times. 
I see the same thing with many of the programs out there. 
You have no idea of what you speak. I suggest you get some age and experience on you before shooting off your mouth like that.

KC138045

lolobugg said:

KC138045 said:

I didn't think Ohio State or Alabama really "deserved" to get in.  Alabama weak resume plus not winning their conference and Ohio States loss to Iowa.  Plus with JT at QB the buckeyes offense was mediocre at best against USC.  The Defense won that game.

Yes I know OSU got in last year without winning the Big 10 but they were #2 two going into the Michigan game and beat OU on the road.  Washington kept PSU out last year not the Buckeyes.

Back to this year I didn't think Alabama looked all that impressive the other night.  It was more how shitty Clemson looked.  Maybe they were the ones that should of been left out.  I know this is lame reasoning but take away the two pics in the 3rd and that was a 10-6 crappy football game.

so who would you have voted for?

UCF? 

Bama played the best defensive game of their season (so far) on Monday night.

it helped getting 3 of our linebackers back.

No not UCF lol.  With how the chips fell it came down between Bama and OSU for the last spot.  Previous seasons neither might not of even been considered.  Alabama did play a great game defensively.  I guess it helps they had a month and a half to get healthy.

F Me In The Brain

There are lots of bandwagon fans of every dynasty, of course.  This means there are a shitload of people who are fans of Bama right now who that would never have been fans of a program representing a hee-haw state few from outside the south have ever even been to.  (Or ever really desire to visit.)

That is OK.  Part of what makes this fun.

The people that love those programs from ground up...or the people that went to those schools...they will always be there.

A lot of the bandwagon fans will stay as well, fueled by the joy associated with the good times during their big run.

HesCalledDyer

northerndragon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

To hell with Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Alabama all three.  WHY THE HELL WASN'T CENTRAL FLORIDA IN??!!!

Undefeated. Check.
Conference Champs. Check.
Manhandle the team that mandhandled both teams appearing in the CFP title game. Check.

Strength of record #77 in the league. Check
They start playing some of the big boys and beating them during reg season and you have an argument.

Ahem... Manhandle the team that mandhandled both teams appearing in the CFP title game. Check.

Anwyay, that whole "start playing the big boys" excuse isn't even an argument. This was the same argument against Utah, Boise State, and TCU and EVERY year, Utah, Boise State, and TCU would beat the pants off a "Power 5" team in a bowl game.  Chris Peterson was begging teams to put Boise on their schedule and campaigning to join the Pac-10//12 nobody but Va Tech ever stepped up to the challenge and the Pac-10 said no.

Who the hell did Alabama play this year? The only reason SEC schedules are considered "tough" is because the entire conference gets overinflated because of Alabama's recent history.  I'm sorry (not really) but a 5-3 Mississippi State ranked #13 in the nation week 9 is a complete fucking joke.  And it happens ALL the time. Kentucky starts 4-1, they're top 15, then they finish the season 5-7. Ole Miss starts 5-2, top 10, finish the season 6-6.  And this ONLY happens for SEC teams, all because Alabama has won some titles in the past decade.  When Boston College, Northwestern, Kansas, and Washington State are consistently ranked top 10 when they start a season 4-1, then you have an argument about Alabama's strength of schedule being superior. Until then, it's just SEC bias.

lolobugg

KC138045 said:

lolobugg said:

KC138045 said:

I didn't think Ohio State or Alabama really "deserved" to get in.  Alabama weak resume plus not winning their conference and Ohio States loss to Iowa.  Plus with JT at QB the buckeyes offense was mediocre at best against USC.  The Defense won that game.

Yes I know OSU got in last year without winning the Big 10 but they were #2 two going into the Michigan game and beat OU on the road.  Washington kept PSU out last year not the Buckeyes.

Back to this year I didn't think Alabama looked all that impressive the other night.  It was more how shitty Clemson looked.  Maybe they were the ones that should of been left out.  I know this is lame reasoning but take away the two pics in the 3rd and that was a 10-6 crappy football game.

so who would you have voted for?

UCF? 

Bama played the best defensive game of their season (so far) on Monday night.

it helped getting 3 of our linebackers back.

No not UCF lol.  With how the chips fell it came down between Bama and OSU for the last spot.  Previous seasons neither might not of even been considered.  Alabama did play a great game defensively.  I guess it helps they had a month and a half to get healthy.

Helped a lot.

I think OSU could've competed in the playoffs.

there are always one or two schools that get left out of the 4 team equation.

I just don't want to see it get watered down to the point of NCAA basketball.

I love that College Football regular season still means a lot.

lolobugg

F Me In The Brain said:

There are lots of bandwagon fans of every dynasty, of course.  This means there are a shitload of people who are fans of Bama right now who that would never have been fans of a program representing a hee-haw state few from outside the south have ever even been to.  (Or ever really desire to visit.)

That is OK.  Part of what makes this fun.

The people that love those programs from ground up...or the people that went to those schools...they will always be there.

A lot of the bandwagon fans will stay as well, fueled by the joy associated with the good times during their big run.

not a lot to do in the state. you can visit the Civil Rights museum or go to college games. I have done both and enjoyed it. as for bandwagon fans. they are so easy to spot.

KC138045

lolobugg said:

KC138045 said:

lolobugg said:

KC138045 said:

I didn't think Ohio State or Alabama really "deserved" to get in.  Alabama weak resume plus not winning their conference and Ohio States loss to Iowa.  Plus with JT at QB the buckeyes offense was mediocre at best against USC.  The Defense won that game.

Yes I know OSU got in last year without winning the Big 10 but they were #2 two going into the Michigan game and beat OU on the road.  Washington kept PSU out last year not the Buckeyes.

Back to this year I didn't think Alabama looked all that impressive the other night.  It was more how shitty Clemson looked.  Maybe they were the ones that should of been left out.  I know this is lame reasoning but take away the two pics in the 3rd and that was a 10-6 crappy football game.

so who would you have voted for?

UCF? 

Bama played the best defensive game of their season (so far) on Monday night.

it helped getting 3 of our linebackers back.

No not UCF lol.  With how the chips fell it came down between Bama and OSU for the last spot.  Previous seasons neither might not of even been considered.  Alabama did play a great game defensively.  I guess it helps they had a month and a half to get healthy.

Helped a lot.

I think OSU could've competed in the playoffs.

there are always one or two schools that get left out of the 4 team equation.

I just don't want to see it get watered down to the point of NCAA basketball.

I love that College Football regular season still means a lot.

I agree.  Personally I'd love to see a 6 team playoff.  The 5 power conference champs and one wild card.  1 and 2 get a bye week.

And for the UCF supporters.  They did a simulated BCS rankings and the top 8 were all the same teams just a little shuffled.  UCF was 9th.

Degeneratefk

KC138045 said:

I didn't think Ohio State or Alabama really "deserved" to get in.  Alabama weak resume plus not winning their conference and Ohio States loss to Iowa.  Plus with JT at QB the buckeyes offense was mediocre at best against USC.  The Defense won that game.

Yes I know OSU got in last year without winning the Big 10 but they were #2 two going into the Michigan game and beat OU on the road.  Washington kept PSU out last year not the Buckeyes.

Back to this year I didn't think Alabama looked all that impressive the other night.  It was more how shitty Clemson looked.  Maybe they were the ones that should of been left out.  I know this is lame reasoning but take away the two pics in the 3rd and that was a 10-6 crappy football game.

Clemsons offense looked like shit because bamas defense kicked the shit out of them. And Clemson forgot to suit up their best player. Deshaun Watson.

F Me In The Brain

KC138045 said:

lolobugg said:

KC138045 said:

I didn't think Ohio State or Alabama really "deserved" to get in.  Alabama weak resume plus not winning their conference and Ohio States loss to Iowa.  Plus with JT at QB the buckeyes offense was mediocre at best against USC.  The Defense won that game.

Yes I know OSU got in last year without winning the Big 10 but they were #2 two going into the Michigan game and beat OU on the road.  Washington kept PSU out last year not the Buckeyes.

Back to this year I didn't think Alabama looked all that impressive the other night.  It was more how shitty Clemson looked.  Maybe they were the ones that should of been left out.  I know this is lame reasoning but take away the two pics in the 3rd and that was a 10-6 crappy football game.

so who would you have voted for?

UCF? 

Bama played the best defensive game of their season (so far) on Monday night.

it helped getting 3 of our linebackers back.

No not UCF lol.  With how the chips fell it came down between Bama and OSU for the last spot.  Previous seasons neither might not of even been considered.  Alabama did play a great game defensively.  I guess it helps they had a month and a half to get healthy.

lolobugg said:

F Me In The Brain said:

There are lots of bandwagon fans of every dynasty, of course.  This means there are a shitload of people who are fans of Bama right now who that would never have been fans of a program representing a hee-haw state few from outside the south have ever even been to.  (Or ever really desire to visit.)

That is OK.  Part of what makes this fun.

The people that love those programs from ground up...or the people that went to those schools...they will always be there.

A lot of the bandwagon fans will stay as well, fueled by the joy associated with the good times during their big run.

not a lot to do in the state. you can visit the Civil Rights museum or go to college games. I have done both and enjoyed it. as for bandwagon fans. they are so easy to spot.

They are the ones with teeth?

lolobugg

F Me In The Brain said:

KC138045 said:

lolobugg said:

KC138045 said:

I didn't think Ohio State or Alabama really "deserved" to get in.  Alabama weak resume plus not winning their conference and Ohio States loss to Iowa.  Plus with JT at QB the buckeyes offense was mediocre at best against USC.  The Defense won that game.

Yes I know OSU got in last year without winning the Big 10 but they were #2 two going into the Michigan game and beat OU on the road.  Washington kept PSU out last year not the Buckeyes.

Back to this year I didn't think Alabama looked all that impressive the other night.  It was more how shitty Clemson looked.  Maybe they were the ones that should of been left out.  I know this is lame reasoning but take away the two pics in the 3rd and that was a 10-6 crappy football game.

so who would you have voted for?

UCF? 

Bama played the best defensive game of their season (so far) on Monday night.

it helped getting 3 of our linebackers back.

No not UCF lol.  With how the chips fell it came down between Bama and OSU for the last spot.  Previous seasons neither might not of even been considered.  Alabama did play a great game defensively.  I guess it helps they had a month and a half to get healthy.

lolobugg said:

F Me In The Brain said:

There are lots of bandwagon fans of every dynasty, of course.  This means there are a shitload of people who are fans of Bama right now who that would never have been fans of a program representing a hee-haw state few from outside the south have ever even been to.  (Or ever really desire to visit.)

That is OK.  Part of what makes this fun.

The people that love those programs from ground up...or the people that went to those schools...they will always be there.

A lot of the bandwagon fans will stay as well, fueled by the joy associated with the good times during their big run.

not a lot to do in the state. you can visit the Civil Rights museum or go to college games. I have done both and enjoyed it. as for bandwagon fans. they are so easy to spot.

They are the ones with teeth?

hehehehehehahahaha, oh hohohoho.

ehbacon

F Me In The Brain said:

Would it mean more to you if Wisconsin went to the title game than it would to me if USC went back to a title game? 
How do you know?  (It might...but how do I know & how do you know?)

The blanket statements made here crack me up.

I love college football -- that people feel so strongly about it is a beautiful thing.  Keep hating -- it is a strong emotion, at least, and it makes things fun!

USC hasn't had a natty in 13 years, it would definitely mean a lot to the fanbase. But if you take any team that has never seen a national championship, it would mean way more to them than it would a spoiled fan base like Alabama.

And Alabama fans aren't the worst behaviour wise, their just the worst bandwagon wise. I guarantee, two bad years and half of their fan base will suddenly vanish.