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Empty Glass

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

never understood the need for people to try an defend players that play on the teams they cheer for. not sure how being on your team makes a guys transgressions somehow less than if he was on your rival. I'm guessing FSU fans would take the same position if Winston was playing at Florida...uhh no.

I'm not solely defending him because he's on my team. I just think for the stuff he's done, people are really blowing it way out of proportion. Yes, he was accused (again, key word) of rape. But that's all that ever came from it - an accusation. The other stuff, while completely asinine, is nothing to really get so worked up about.

Part of it is media...we'll use this topic as an example.

Espn: Heisman winner James accused of rape. Then "rape, rape, rape, rape" shoved down the nations throat ever hour on the hour for weeks. The crawl on every sports channel scrolls it over and over.

After a few weeks, oh...turns out the girl is a nut. ESPN will air that briefly, once, and move on while full details were given in Tallahassee.

Rinse and repeat every news story.

Cliffy6745

Empty Glass said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

never understood the need for people to try an defend players that play on the teams they cheer for. not sure how being on your team makes a guys transgressions somehow less than if he was on your rival. I'm guessing FSU fans would take the same position if Winston was playing at Florida...uhh no.

I'm not solely defending him because he's on my team. I just think for the stuff he's done, people are really blowing it way out of proportion. Yes, he was accused (again, key word) of rape. But that's all that ever came from it - an accusation. The other stuff, while completely asinine, is nothing to really get so worked up about.

Part of it is media...we'll use this topic as an example.

Espn: Heisman winner James accused of rape. Then "rape, rape, rape, rape" shoved down the nations throat ever hour on the hour for weeks. The crawl on every sports channel scrolls it over and over.

After a few weeks, oh...turns out the girl is a nut. ESPN will air that briefly, once, and move on while full details were given in Tallahassee.

Rinse and repeat every news story.

I feel like you have a specific grudge, haha.

Wobbie

Empty Glass said:

I don't want to derail this, as it's a college football thread...but Bonds the greatest of all time? C'mon. In all honesty, I have zero opinion on Bonds. I think he cheated (bad), I think he was a dick in public, media wise (who cares), but I also think he was a good ball player. Nowhere close to the greatest ever.

actually, most polls have put him #3, behind Ruth and Mays. He was pretty fucking good.

Go Bucks. Go Utes.

Empty Glass

Cliffy6745 said:

Empty Glass said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

never understood the need for people to try an defend players that play on the teams they cheer for. not sure how being on your team makes a guys transgressions somehow less than if he was on your rival. I'm guessing FSU fans would take the same position if Winston was playing at Florida...uhh no.

I'm not solely defending him because he's on my team. I just think for the stuff he's done, people are really blowing it way out of proportion. Yes, he was accused (again, key word) of rape. But that's all that ever came from it - an accusation. The other stuff, while completely asinine, is nothing to really get so worked up about.

Part of it is media...we'll use this topic as an example.

Espn: Heisman winner James accused of rape. Then "rape, rape, rape, rape" shoved down the nations throat ever hour on the hour for weeks. The crawl on every sports channel scrolls it over and over.

After a few weeks, oh...turns out the girl is a nut. ESPN will air that briefly, once, and move on while full details were given in Tallahassee.

Rinse and repeat every news story.

I feel like you have a specific grudge, haha.

No grudges....Fuck ESPN

Empty Glass

imalive said:

Empty Glass said:

I don't want to derail this, as it's a college football thread...but Bonds the greatest of all time? C'mon. In all honesty, I have zero opinion on Bonds. I think he cheated (bad), I think he was a dick in public, media wise (who cares), but I also think he was a good ball player. Nowhere close to the greatest ever.

actually, most polls have put him #3, behind Ruth and Mays. He was pretty fucking good.

Go Bucks. Go Utes.

Go Bucks? Hell, Go "little" 10. Try to win a weekend.

pjhawks

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

never understood the need for people to try an defend players that play on the teams they cheer for. not sure how being on your team makes a guys transgressions somehow less than if he was on your rival. I'm guessing FSU fans would take the same position if Winston was playing at Florida...uhh no.

I'm not solely defending him because he's on my team. I just think for the stuff he's done, people are really blowing it way out of proportion. Yes, he was accused (again, key word) of rape. But that's all that ever came from it - an accusation. The other stuff, while completely asinine, is nothing to really get so worked up about.

so we agree to disagree which is fine but i think he is a punk. i have no time for thieves and i think anyone that yells out what he yelled out in a middle of a public place is an asshole especially someone accused of rape. shows a real low level of respect for women by doing that after being accused. again doubt you would have the same attitude if he played for Florida.

Empty Glass

Winston out whole game - Clemson is the bet

Empty Glass

DJ Crook!!

Cliffy6745

Empty Glass said:

DJ Crook!!

Yessir. O'connor keeps the red shirt status. That pass to geno was a thing of beauty.

Oh and announcers, the offensive line didn't get the run game going. Playing umass did

Last-12-Exit

imalive said:

Empty Glass said:

I don't want to derail this, as it's a college football thread...but Bonds the greatest of all time? C'mon. In all honesty, I have zero opinion on Bonds. I think he cheated (bad), I think he was a dick in public, media wise (who cares), but I also think he was a good ball player. Nowhere close to the greatest ever.

actually, most polls have put him #3, behind Ruth and Mays. He was pretty fucking good.

Go Bucks. Go Utes.

Since you guys are talking about it here, before steroids, Bonds was a top 15 player of all time. I don't count his steroids era stats. He was a Hall of famer without steroids. He was just jealous of the attention everyone else got. So he juiced to get more "recognition."

Last-12-Exit

pjhawks said:

HesCalledDyer said:

pjhawks said:

never understood the need for people to try an defend players that play on the teams they cheer for. not sure how being on your team makes a guys transgressions somehow less than if he was on your rival. I'm guessing FSU fans would take the same position if Winston was playing at Florida...uhh no.

I'm not solely defending him because he's on my team. I just think for the stuff he's done, people are really blowing it way out of proportion. Yes, he was accused (again, key word) of rape. But that's all that ever came from it - an accusation. The other stuff, while completely asinine, is nothing to really get so worked up about.

so we agree to disagree which is fine but i think he is a punk. i have no time for thieves and i think anyone that yells out what he yelled out in a middle of a public place is an asshole especially someone accused of rape. shows a real low level of respect for women by doing that after being accused. again doubt you would have the same attitude if he played for Florida.

He was accused of rape and caught stealing things twice. I'm sure he's stolen other things before and just didn't get caught. What he said on that table isn't worthy of a one game suspension, IF it was a first offense. Or even if he was a no name player. But the fact is, he is a heisman trophy winner with a reputation of an immature punk kid. The kid thinks he's invincible. Whether he likes it or not, he is held to a higher standard.

I agree with Kirk Herbstreet, ANYONE with a rape allegation hanging over his head doesn't need to be standing in a table screaming f®©k her in the p#&@y.

Empty Glass

I will say, Austin Scott - a PA RB stud, had a rape allegation. Paterno put him 5th string for his last 3 years. Turned out, after he graduated, he didn't do anything (short story). Things get fucked up for some of these kids. Sucks, but it happens. Attention is a bitch.

Cliffy, am I wrong comparing Scott with Jamison ?

Last-12-Exit

Cant believe that Clemson fumbled in field goal range! They deserve to lose now.

CROJAM95

FSU has to have a higher power rooting for them

You can't find more ways to lose a game than Clemson did

Great game

F Me In The Brain

I despise Barry Bonds.

USC didnt blow an easy game this weekend, woo-hoo! (Not playing makes that a certainty.)

Empty Glass

Had a soccer game at 9 this morning and another at noon. DVR'd game and sped thru first 1/2 before our 3:30 baseball game. Needless to say, I won't watch the 2nd half. That o-line has regressed. Don't lose to Michigan. Bowl eligible may be tough.

Ohio St
Maryland
Temple
Michigan St.

Can all beat us. 6 may be tough. The Indiana team can win too. Still proud of them, I hope today was a fluke, but I have a feeling other teams watch film

Wobbie

F Me In The Brain said:

I despise Barry Bonds.

USC didnt blow an easy game this weekend, woo-hoo! (Not playing makes that a certainty.)

Hey, hey, hey! What brought THAT on?

so, I sat in a cold rain last night, watching utah take 21-0 lead six minutes in and then score 6 more points in the next 54 minutes and lose by a point. Fuck me. I'll probably come down with pneumonia later today.

F Me In The Brain

crap I didnt see that WSU came back and won.

Life is good, SC took care of weak Oregon State.
Hope Stanford blows out ND this coming week.

eeriepadave

ROCK BOTTOM!!!

Wobbie

boat shoes + visor + white shorts = deserved that......and more.

Jason P

The Rock is gonna go down Know Your Role Boulevard, hang that right at Jabroni Drive, and proceed to check your candy ass in at the Smackdown Hotel

Cliffy6745

Yeah what a disaster last weekend at penn state. Should have seen it coming

norm

go ducks!

F Me In The Brain

Wow the Cats beat the Ducks. Again.

Wobbie

norm said:

go ducks!

whoops

Jason P

Purdue's QB sucks. I wonder what Scott Bakula is up to and if he has any eligibility left ...

Cliffy6745

Considering I have watched every down of Penn State football so far this year, I am looking forward to a weekend off.

Empty Glass

Cliffy6745 said:

Considering I have watched every down of Penn State football so far this year, I am looking forward to a weekend off.

Quite a few good games tomorrow. Bye scheduled at the right time.

Wobbie

B Y who?

sorry boys.....not going undefeated, even against that putrid schedule

The Juggler

Jason P said:

Purdue's QB sucks. I wonder what Scott Bakula is up to and if he has any eligibility left ...

no. he's way too old.