Living without weed

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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    matabele wrote:
    eyedclaar wrote:
    kenny olav wrote:

    I suppose weed is not for everyone, but some of us would be less than ourselves without it. Others are less than themselves with it... I don't dispute that. It's very strange...

    It keeps me from twisting heads and snapping necks. So, it's good for everyone (in my general vicinity), not just me.
    Funny thing is that I used to think the same way when I was wasted 24/7, when I slowed down to once a day and then once a week people commented on how much more relaxed I was.

    I don't "think" that way, I know that way. You are just going to have to trust me on this one. And how does one get "wasted" on marijuana anyway? I've been wasted drunk, I've been hopped to the gills on speed, coke, and acid. I've sat comotose in chairs from opiates, but I have never been wasted on weed. Pretty goddamn high, but never wasted.
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  • matabelematabele Posts: 277
    I don't "think" that way, I know that way. You are just going to have to trust me on this one. And how does one get "wasted" on marijuana anyway? I've been wasted drunk, I've been hopped to the gills on speed, coke, and acid. I've sat comotose in chairs from opiates, but I have never been wasted on weed. Pretty goddamn high, but never wasted.[/quote]
    My man gets this stuff he calls blue cheese, it brings a new dimension to getting stoned, also try a ground pipe, the local yardies thought they had been high until I made them one of those.
  • 8181 Needing a ride to Forest Hills and a ounce of weed. Please inquire within. Thanks. Or not. Posts: 58,276
    legalize it already
    81 is now off the air

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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Sour Deisel, that is all.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i suggest reading a poem by pablo neruda - "opium in the east"
    sure, opium isn't marijuana, we all know that.
    but this poem makes me wanna get my hands on a big ole bowl fulla that stuff.

    something something about a bench's lethargic occupant
    very awesome
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    chadwick wrote:
    i suggest reading a poem by pablo neruda - "opium in the east"
    sure, opium isn't marijuana, we all know that.
    but this poem makes me wanna get my hands on a big ole bowl fulla that stuff.

    something something about a bench's lethargic occupant
    very awesome


    you have to supply the poem, everybody's too stoned to google it.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    KO282453 wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    i suggest reading a poem by pablo neruda - "opium in the east"
    sure, opium isn't marijuana, we all know that.
    but this poem makes me wanna get my hands on a big ole bowl fulla that stuff.

    something something about a bench's lethargic occupant
    very awesome


    you have to supply the poem, everybody's too stoned to google it.
    i'll have to transfer it all by way of typing
    the entire poem, ive never found online.
    i'll see what i can do.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    chadwick wrote:
    KO282453 wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    i suggest reading a poem by pablo neruda - "opium in the east"
    sure, opium isn't marijuana, we all know that.
    but this poem makes me wanna get my hands on a big ole bowl fulla that stuff.

    something something about a bench's lethargic occupant
    very awesome


    you have to supply the poem, everybody's too stoned to google it.
    i'll have to transfer it all by way of typing
    the entire poem, ive never found online.
    i'll see what i can do.


    that's too much work. it's late, were all tired, it's miller time. lets all go home and get a good nights sleep, we'll pick this up in the morning.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    KO282453 wrote:
    that's too much work. it's late, were all tired, it's miller time. lets all go home and get a good nights sleep, we'll pick this up in the morning.
    it is joy for me, not work at all.
    i will find the book, the poem and type it out for us all.
    in fact, if you smoke the words you will become the lethargic occupant.

    sound fun?

    now wish me luck in finding the book.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Ever use Bible paper, your not a real stoner until you do. there's those 3 empty pages in the back, but after that i recommend starting with the old testament.
  • blenderman69blenderman69 philly Posts: 2,104
    KO282453 wrote:
    Sour Deisel, that is all.
    :thumbup: :clap: :crazy:
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    KO282453 wrote:
    Ever use Bible paper, your not a real stoner until you do. there's those 3 empty pages in the back, but after that i recommend starting with the old testament.
    I used THE page from Revelations :twisted:
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    well, i decided to take a short break from smoking and am so glad i did! i ran out roughly 2 days ago and today i had a job interview. i've passed every drug test i've taken by drinking an entire 8pack of 20o of gatorade with a lot of vitamin b12 to make it yellow and eating red meat for creatine. so, i followed the same precautions today only to find out they do a mouth swab!! :o :shock:

    i thought for sure i was fucked but i passed! i looked it up later and it said it only stays in your saliva roughly 48-72hrs. what great timing!
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    well, i decided to take a short break from smoking and am so glad i did! i ran out roughly 2 days ago and today i had a job interview. i've passed every drug test i've taken by drinking an entire 8pack of 20o of gatorade with a lot of vitamin b12 to make it yellow and eating red meat for creatine. so, i followed the same precautions today only to find out they do a mouth swab!! :o :shock:

    i thought for sure i was fucked but i passed! i looked it up later and it said it only stays in your saliva roughly 48-72hrs. what great timing!


    Lucky bastard!!! :lol: it stays in your urine for 4 to 6 weeks, with out that drink from GNC, but if your going into law enforcement it stays in your hair for 6 months.
  • pjfan021pjfan021 Posts: 684
    KO282453 wrote:
    Sour Deisel, that is all.

    :D but i'd prefer OG kush....esp out of a volcano.
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    pjfan021 wrote:
    KO282453 wrote:
    Sour Deisel, that is all.

    :D but i'd prefer OG kush....esp out of a volcano.


    sadly beyond my experience, i've heard of OG Kush, legendery from what i've heard.
  • Lost_ClayLost_Clay Posts: 1,085
    I smoked just about everyday for ten years or so, really heavy/chronic when i had roomates, little more relaxed less when i had my own apt.

    I never felt the need to get high to go to work or get thru an annoying outing or whatnot, it was more of an enhancer when i wanted to go see a gig, movie @ the theatre or just even shot some hoops around the corner, I for one, no for a fact that "the munchies" seriously helped my appetite/eating habits, there was some pretty poor bachelor days (off weed back then i might add) where i could only afford one half assed meal a day, and it seemed that when i rebounded got more money my eating habits didnt change, well not until i started getting high :arrow:

    but to echo some of the statements here, i found it very relaxing especially after a work day or commitments around the house were done, but that was then, this is now.

    now i might have a haul/puff/bowl once or twice a month if i'm out, and it's usually while im on the booze, i tend to be careful when i choose to smoke during a drinking night, cuz for me anyways, nothing kills a buzz, well not a buzz but a trying to get drunk glow than having some pot too early in the night, do i miss it? sure sometimes, but i think im gettin more stuff done now, more clear headed now? not so much,

    in closing, i've smoked with my father twice, he's a full on child on the sixties, i'm 34 now, he's 64 do the math, he's been a fulltime smoker all these years from what i can tell, but i'm noticing a lot of the bad side effects in recent years from heavy usage, id go into more detail but it's sort of personal
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  • matabelematabele Posts: 277
    I don't know how many people are aware of the recent European study on marijuana use, turns out that the country that has the lowest use is the one you can by it legally from the coffee shop and the country who has the highest number of pot heads just happens to be Pearl Jams favorite country to play in?
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    matabele wrote:
    I don't know how many people are aware of the recent European study on marijuana use, turns out that the country that has the lowest use is the one you can by it legally from the coffee shop and the country who has the highest number of pot heads just happens to be Pearl Jams favorite country to play in?

    That's intresting!, do you think the taboo of it draws people in? it's not what got me into it, it was that Wonderful Smell :mrgreen: .
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    well i finally got it typed out, word for word, exactly like it is in the book.
    it's not living without weed.
    enjoy greatly.



    Opium in the East (by Pablo Neruda)

    From Singapore on, there was a smell of opium.
    The honest Englishman was well aware of it.
    In Geneva he denounced
    the undercover dealers,
    but in the colonies each port
    gave off a cloud of legal smoke,
    numbered, juicily licensed, legalized.
    The gentleman from London,
    impeccably dressed like a nightingale
    (striped pants, starched armor),
    raged against sellers of dreams,
    but here in the East
    he took off his mask
    and peddled lethargy on every corner.

    I wanted to know. I went in. Every bench
    had its recumbent occupant
    Nobody spoke. Nobody laughed. I thought
    they smoked in a total silence,
    but pipes crackled beside me
    when the needle met the flame,
    and with that inhaled coolness,
    an ecstatic joy came with the milky smoke,
    some far door
    opened on a luscious emptiness.
    Opium was the flower of torpor,
    paralyzed joy,
    pure activity without movement.
    Everything was pure or seemed pure.
    Everything moved like an oiled hinge
    to become a sheer existence.
    Nothing burned, nothing wept.
    There was no room for anguish.
    There was no fuel for anger.

    I looked around. Poor victims,
    slaves, coolies from the rickshaws and plantations,
    run-down workhorses,
    street dogs,
    poor abused people.
    Here, after their wounds,
    after being not human being but feet,
    after being not men but beasts of burden,
    after walking and walking and sweating and sweating,
    sweating blood, having no soul,
    there they were,
    lonely,
    stretched out,
    lying down at last, the hard-footed people.
    Each one had exchanged hunger
    for an obscure right to pleasure,
    and under the crown of lethargy,
    dream or deception, luck or death, they were
    at last at rest, what they looked for all their lives,
    respected at last, on a star of their own.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    I haven't touched the stuff in probably 4-5 years.
    I smoked the shit outta it in college (when I last smoked). :lol:
    It's not that I don't like it or choose not to smoke it, but in my professional life the option isn't there anymore.

    I think it should be legal and at the least de-criminalized and as someone who works in cancer research I've seen more people than I care to die in agony who could have benefited from this "illegal" drug. :cry:
  • I tried it a few years ago..


    I found it very strange. I didn't like it, but I didn't NOT like it if that makes any sense. It didn't make me feel better or worse, it was just different. Like I was on autopilot or something.

    I have nothing against people who want to smoke. As long as they are responsible and know to not let it take control of their lives.
  • matabelematabele Posts: 277
    KO282453 wrote:
    matabele wrote:
    I don't know how many people are aware of the recent European study on marijuana use, turns out that the country that has the lowest use is the one you can by it legally from the coffee shop and the country who has the highest number of pot heads just happens to be Pearl Jams favorite country to play in?

    That's intresting!, do you think the taboo of it draws people in? it's not what got me into it, it was that Wonderful Smell :mrgreen: .
    chadwick, thanks for taking the time, very well written piece.

    KO282453 I don't really think it has anything to do with the taboo but more with the wild side/go against the grain/new horizons type of mentality that is in many of us.
    The real sad fact is that the suits are correct to an extent when they say it leads to other drugs, you go round to pick up some weed and the dealer offers you some speed or other pharmaceutical, most people will say no but eventually they might give it a go and that's when it all falls apart.
    In the coffee shop/legal environment a person can walk in and buy one joint every 6 weeks just to have a blast, the idiots who make policy cannot see this and hence we have countries full of druggies who might never have tried crack if the system was run correctly.
    The old argument stands, walk into a bottle store buy a bottle of bourbon, down it and die, no problem. Get caught smoking something that grows naturally and you are a criminal, insane or what?
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    chadwick wrote:
    well i finally got it typed out, word for word, exactly like it is in the book.
    it's not living without weed.
    enjoy greatly.



    Opium in the East (by Pablo Neruda)

    From Singapore on, there was a smell of opium.
    The honest Englishman was well aware of it.
    In Geneva he denounced
    the undercover dealers,
    but in the colonies each port
    gave off a cloud of legal smoke,
    numbered, juicily licensed, legalized.
    The gentleman from London,
    impeccably dressed like a nightingale
    (striped pants, starched armor),
    raged against sellers of dreams,
    but here in the East
    he took off his mask
    and peddled lethargy on every corner.

    I wanted to know. I went in. Every bench
    had its recumbent occupant
    Nobody spoke. Nobody laughed. I thought
    they smoked in a total silence,
    but pipes crackled beside me
    when the needle met the flame,
    and with that inhaled coolness,
    an ecstatic joy came with the milky smoke,
    some far door
    opened on a luscious emptiness.
    Opium was the flower of torpor,
    paralyzed joy,
    pure activity without movement.
    Everything was pure or seemed pure.
    Everything moved like an oiled hinge
    to become a sheer existence.
    Nothing burned, nothing wept.
    There was no room for anguish.
    There was no fuel for anger.

    I looked around. Poor victims,
    slaves, coolies from the rickshaws and plantations,
    run-down workhorses,
    street dogs,
    poor abused people.
    Here, after their wounds,
    after being not human being but feet,
    after being not men but beasts of burden,
    after walking and walking and sweating and sweating,
    sweating blood, having no soul,
    there they were,
    lonely,
    stretched out,
    lying down at last, the hard-footed people.
    Each one had exchanged hunger
    for an obscure right to pleasure,
    and under the crown of lethargy,
    dream or deception, luck or death, they were
    at last at rest, what they looked for all their lives,
    respected at last, on a star of their own.

    :clap: that was cool, makes it sound pretty good, i've always steered away from something that sounded this good, like i want to get hi, but i want to keep my life at the same time, altho weed did take over for awhile, i never stopped caring about everything else.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    edited July 2010
    KO282453 wrote:
    matabele wrote:
    I don't know how many people are aware of the recent European study on marijuana use, turns out that the country that has the lowest use is the one you can by it legally from the coffee shop and the country who has the highest number of pot heads just happens to be Pearl Jams favorite country to play in?

    That's intresting!, do you think the taboo of it draws people in? it's not what got me into it, it was that Wonderful Smell :mrgreen: .


    i think it was in kevin booth's documentary 'american war on drugs' that i saw it but it said in countries like the netherlands, where it is legal but regulated, they actually have a smaller % of underage people that smoke it compared to countries that have it illegal like the us. they also have a much lower rate s of heroin addicts. i think it was their health minister or something said they had succeeded in making marijuana boring.

    it also showed clips of people like our drug czar talking about how there's so many addicts in the street of amsterdam and then alternated between shots of the streets of the netherlands and different streets in us cities and it wasn't them who had junkies lying on the sidewalk.

    i think it has to do with countries like the netherlands are more honest about drugs, they don't just try to scare them straight. like the first time i smoked pot it was nothing like i had heard my whole life. we even watched videos in school about it. my favorite was of this girl who was a straight a student and loved her parents but because of peer pressure and wanting to be cool she tried weed....then she started flunking all her classes and being really mean to her parents snapping at them and yelling at them over nothing...and then she drops out of school and becomes a heroin addict where she dies :roll:

    i think when some people try it and see it's nothing like they were told for decades they think 'maybe they lied about other drugs'

    a good book on the subject, at least how the rampage got started here in the states, is 'smoke & mirrors: the american war on drugs and the politics of failure' i forgot who wrote it but it was very informative and shows how carter dropped the ball and created the backlash that lead to all those parents groups that turned to reagan to get tough on it

    but kevin booth's doc is really good. it shows how wasteful the war on drugs is, just california alone spends over $1billion fighting drugs with the states money, not federal $ and yet marijuana is the #1 cash crop in the state. i was able to get it from my local library.

    all that aside....gave a friend a ride home last night and he gave me some afghani kush 8-)
    Post edited by Pepe Silvia on
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,672
    a friend with weed
    is a friend indeed

    a friend with afghani kush
    is a friend i need
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ed243421 wrote:
    a friend with weed
    is a friend indeed

    a friend with afghani kush
    is a friend i need
    Afghanistan weed is quite outrageous.
    my brothers and i smoked some Afghan joints i stole from our dad.
    the highest i've ever been off of weed in my life.
    it was so strong it was like eating acid.
    at least 6-8 hrs of being blasted.

    i want some.
    and i want some now.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    KO282453 wrote:
    well, i decided to take a short break from smoking and am so glad i did! i ran out roughly 2 days ago and today i had a job interview. i've passed every drug test i've taken by drinking an entire 8pack of 20o of gatorade with a lot of vitamin b12 to make it yellow and eating red meat for creatine. so, i followed the same precautions today only to find out they do a mouth swab!! :o :shock:

    i thought for sure i was fucked but i passed! i looked it up later and it said it only stays in your saliva roughly 48-72hrs. what great timing!


    Lucky bastard!!! :lol: it stays in your urine for 4 to 6 weeks, with out that drink from GNC, but if your going into law enforcement it stays in your hair for 6 months.


    tell me about it! it was so nerve wracking. first he said i had to put it on 1 side of my mouth for some minutes then the other side for the same amount....but when it came time to switch he said don't worry about it...then the swab had to sit in the thing for a set time, then he had to crush these 2 things in it and allow that to distribute for a while and then the strip is pushed down into it and that takes even more time....it probably took 30 min at least while we sat there talking with the back of the test facing me so i couldn't see anything :shock: :?

    finally he turned it around and i showed negative for all 6 drugs they tested for, though, weed is the only thing i do. i couldn't believe it! i was so sure i was screwed
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • JeanwahJeanwah Posts: 6,363

    tell me about it! it was so nerve wracking. first he said i had to put it on 1 side of my mouth for some minutes then the other side for the same amount....but when it came time to switch he said don't worry about it...then the swab had to sit in the thing for a set time, then he had to crush these 2 things in it and allow that to distribute for a while and then the strip is pushed down into it and that takes even more time....it probably took 30 min at least while we sat there talking with the back of the test facing me so i couldn't see anything :shock: :?

    finally he turned it around and i showed negative for all 6 drugs they tested for, though, weed is the only thing i do. i couldn't believe it! i was so sure i was screwed
    Can you tell us what the 6 drugs they test you for, strictly out of curiosity? I didn't think a mouth swab was identifiable for pot use. :?:
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Jeanwah wrote:
    Can you tell us what the 6 drugs they test you for, strictly out of curiosity? I didn't think a mouth swab was identifiable for pot use. :?:


    cocaine, opiates, amphetamines, pcp, meth and thc. thc can be in your saliva for around 48-72hrs after use
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
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