I live in a country where soccer/football isn't a dominant spectator sport (although it's audience is growing rapidly), but when I talk to any soccer fan during World Cup time (or during our A-League season) they can't accept the fact this is a small corner of the world that doesn't go crazy for the 'world game', nor can they accept the fact I prefer the other sports this country has to offer.
Basically, they are not fans, they are zealots, and God help you if you don't see the sporting world their way.
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Letterman had a few good ones last night for the world cup.
so lets talk about the time a game. it's 90 minutes right? well, until "OT" happens. But how long does this "ot" last? nobody knows. it just goes until the ref decides we've had enough exercise for the day and calls it a game. really, you are not going to tell the players and coachs that there is only 30 seconds left, or 5 minutes left or whatever.
i just did some math. so far there have been 18 goals in 11 games. that 1.63 combined goals per game. if you throw out the german game that was 4-0, you get 14 goals in 10 games for a 1.4 combined gaols per game avg.
it's no wonder the fans have been showing up with the annoying horns. maybe they figure if they annoy the players, they will do something
so i dug up some more data. there are 23.5 shots per game, but only 7.3 of those shots are on goal. mind, these are combined per game states. each TEAM is only getting 3.6 shots on goal. so on average, your team is going to get a shot on goal once every 25 minutes.
how exciting is that.....where do i sign up
Really, it's just an excuse to drink.
I do not get the appeal of football. I gave it a go when I first moved here and was bored to tears. I'll admit to being amused in 2006 but that was due to England's laughable collapse (which by the way, them blowing the USA game certainly comes as no surprise to me).
The argument that one never knows when something exciting is gonna happen is a poor one. It's possible the building across the street from me could burst into flames, but I'm not gonna sit there all day waiting for it.
Ties are even better. You waste all that time watching them kick the ball around midfield and at the end of the game, you're no better off than you were at the start. How lame is that?
But ties(draws) do count ... in a league system Loss = 0 points, Draw = 1 point, Win = 3 points. So to say "you're no better off than you were at the start" isn't true.
Games that aren't played in a league (group format) don't end in a draw, extra time and penalties.
ties are stupid. a sporting event should have a winner and a loser.
this goes for hockey and football too (even though they are extremely rare in football)
It didn't get that by being boring and the World Cup should not be used as a guide to the game. Invariably, league matches are much more exciting, as there is much more rivalry at stake plus a greater mix of players in the teams, offering different aspects of skill.
And, in football, when they host a World tournament, the whole world CAN actually participate in it. They don't do something idiotic like....oh, I don't know, call a tournament The World Series and then only let teams from one country play in it. :roll:
world baseball classic. look it up.
either way----when 1.6 goals are the norm, and horns are blasting NONSTOP, and there are only a few shots on goal for the whole game...its hard to argue that it's not boring. perhaps that's the reason why all the fans are playing musical instruments all game?
It didn't get that by being boring and the World Cup should not be used as a guide to the game. Invariably, league matches are much more exciting, as there is much more rivalry at stake plus a greater mix of players in the teams, offering different aspects of skill.
And, in football, when they host a World tournament, the whole world CAN actually participate in it. They don't do something idiotic like....oh, I don't know, call a tournament The World Series and then only let teams from one country play in it. :roll:
world baseball classic. look it up.
either way----when 1.6 goals are the norm, and horns are blasting NONSTOP, and there are only a few shots on goal for the whole game...its hard to argue that it's not boring. perhaps that's the reason why all the fans are playing musical instruments all game?
You'd prefer they go back to trampling the shite out of each other?
It didn't get that by being boring and the World Cup should not be used as a guide to the game. Invariably, league matches are much more exciting, as there is much more rivalry at stake plus a greater mix of players in the teams, offering different aspects of skill.
And, in football, when they host a World tournament, the whole world CAN actually participate in it. They don't do something idiotic like....oh, I don't know, call a tournament The World Series and then only let teams from one country play in it. :roll:
world baseball classic. look it up.
either way----when 1.6 goals are the norm, and horns are blasting NONSTOP, and there are only a few shots on goal for the whole game...its hard to argue that it's not boring. perhaps that's the reason why all the fans are playing musical instruments all game?
You'd prefer they go back to trampling the shite out of each other?
Kind of funny all you guys hate on soccer for being boring but when the Wall Street Journal conducted a study on Football it concluded that in a 3+ hour broadcast there is only 11 minutes of actual play....
Edit: Forgot to inculde the full article. Here it is.
Kind of funny all you guys hate on soccer for being boring but when the Wall Street Journal conducted a study on Football it concluded that in a 3+ hour broadcast there is only 11 minutes of actual play....
Edit: Forgot to inculde the full article. Here it is.
So, break it down even further and you have offense and defense playing about 5 minutes each. Makes sense. There is no way a 132 year old Favre could still be playing otherwise.
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Kind of funny all you guys hate on soccer for being boring but when the Wall Street Journal conducted a study on Football it concluded that in a 3+ hour broadcast there is only 11 minutes of actual play....
Edit: Forgot to inculde the full article. Here it is.
Kind of funny all you guys hate on soccer for being boring but when the Wall Street Journal conducted a study on Football it concluded that in a 3+ hour broadcast there is only 11 minutes of actual play....
Edit: Forgot to inculde the full article. Here it is.
And yet that 11 minutes is still 100x more exciting than 90+ minutes of (soccer) football. I say that as someone who's not even particularly fond of NFL football.
Kind of funny all you guys hate on soccer for being boring but when the Wall Street Journal conducted a study on Football it concluded that in a 3+ hour broadcast there is only 11 minutes of actual play....
Edit: Forgot to inculde the full article. Here it is.
So, break it down even further and you have offense and defense playing about 5 minutes each. Makes sense. There is no way a 132 year old Favre could still be playing otherwise.
Yes, exactly. And half the time the QB is just handing the ball off so old man Favre is probably only actually physically exerting himself for 2.5 minutes in a game.
I tried to watch US vs. England with my girlfriend.
Those horns just bugged the shit out of both of us.
The game itself was cool, but that crazy bee noise was way too much for me.
And yet that 11 minutes is still 100x more exciting than 90+ minutes of soccer.
i agree. and in that 11 minutes, they still put up more TD's than we have seen goals in teh world cup.
so i say again, F the world cup.
I still am confused as to why you feel the need to start a thread bashing an event many people here are very interested in. 95% of America could give a flying fuck about hockey but people didn't feel the need to say F the Stanley Cup Finals when you were intersted in it. If you don't like it, don't watch.
why? i dunno. why not. it's a good thread to get away from the countless world cup threads. we are getting the cup shoved down out throat. been to yahoo's home page or sports page lately? they have scores on the front page, then go to mlb, or nba or whatever, and they sneak a world cup score line at the bottom. i didn't see them doing that for the stanley cup. put all the world cup stuff on the soccer page and call it a day.
and lets not forget espn...have they even shown a soccer match in the last 5 years? WC rolls around and they go ape shit for it.
so once again, i say F the world cup. stop shoving it down my throat on great media members.
Kind of funny all you guys hate on soccer for being boring but when the Wall Street Journal conducted a study on Football it concluded that in a 3+ hour broadcast there is only 11 minutes of actual play....
Edit: Forgot to inculde the full article. Here it is.
Kind of funny all you guys hate on soccer for being boring but when the Wall Street Journal conducted a study on Football it concluded that in a 3+ hour broadcast there is only 11 minutes of actual play....
Edit: Forgot to inculde the full article. Here it is.
why? i dunno. why not. it's a good thread to get away from the countless world cup threads. we are getting the cup shoved down out throat. been to yahoo's home page or sports page lately? they have scores on the front page, then go to mlb, or nba or whatever, and they sneak a world cup score line at the bottom. i didn't see them doing that for the stanley cup. put all the world cup stuff on the soccer page and call it a day.
and lets not forget espn...have they even shown a soccer match in the last 5 years? WC rolls around and they go ape shit for it.
so once again, i say F the world cup. stop shoving it down my throat on great media members.
There is a reason they have it on the main page, it's not like they are guessing which links are getting the most clicks.
why? i dunno. why not. it's a good thread to get away from the countless world cup threads. we are getting the cup shoved down out throat. been to yahoo's home page or sports page lately? they have scores on the front page, then go to mlb, or nba or whatever, and they sneak a world cup score line at the bottom. i didn't see them doing that for the stanley cup. put all the world cup stuff on the soccer page and call it a day.
and lets not forget espn...have they even shown a soccer match in the last 5 years? WC rolls around and they go ape shit for it.
so once again, i say F the world cup. stop shoving it down my throat on great media members.
There is a reason they have it on the main page, it's not like they are guessing which links are getting the most clicks.
I hate ESPN.
just glanced at yahoo....anouther 1-1 tie and the second game is at the half tied 0-0. weeeeee
why? i dunno. why not. it's a good thread to get away from the countless world cup threads. we are getting the cup shoved down out throat. been to yahoo's home page or sports page lately? they have scores on the front page, then go to mlb, or nba or whatever, and they sneak a world cup score line at the bottom. i didn't see them doing that for the stanley cup. put all the world cup stuff on the soccer page and call it a day.
and lets not forget espn...have they even shown a soccer match in the last 5 years? WC rolls around and they go ape shit for it.
so once again, i say F the world cup. stop shoving it down my throat on great media members.
There is a reason they have it on the main page, it's not like they are guessing which links are getting the most clicks.
I hate ESPN.
just glanced at yahoo....anouther 1-1 tie and the second game is at the half tied 0-0. weeeeee
Missed the 1-1 tie but from what i hear it was an incredible finish, New Zealand scored in the 93rd minute. Current game is shaping up to be a good one as well. Not going to get into about this though.
its amazing they can fit an average of 40 some points in those 11 minutes....yet soccer manages 1.6 in 90 minutes!
Much easier when each time you score it counts for 3-7 points. I would also bet the average combined score in the NFL is not in the 40's.
Either way, completely different sports and they both are what they are.
either way, each team scores 3-4 times per game in football as opposed to 1-ish in soccer.
i used to play soccer in high school. i liked it. it just lulls me to sleep when i when i try to watch a full game. and those fucking horns...jesus.
i'll tune in for the US games though...
I hear you. A lot of people I played soccer with in college don't like watching it, I understand it. Not a fan of the horns as well but they are not as bad as I thought they were going to be.
Renaldo is a big WUSS, this part of his game sucks. Btw the way i barely hear those horns when I'm watching the game of focusing on the play and flow of the game no different than drunken singing from the fans.
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The argument that one never knows when something exciting is gonna happen is a poor one. It's possible the building across the street from me could burst into flames, but I'm not gonna sit there all day waiting for it.
81 is right on target, here.
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you can toot your own vuvuzela? :shock:
wow.
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The argument that one never knows when something exciting is gonna happen is a poor one. It's possible the building across the street from me could burst into flames, but I'm not gonna sit there all day waiting for it.
81 is right on target, here.
As long as we're applying that logic to baseball as well...
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The argument that one never knows when something exciting is gonna happen is a poor one. It's possible the building across the street from me could burst into flames, but I'm not gonna sit there all day waiting for it.
81 is right on target, here.
As long as we're applying that logic to baseball as well...
we're not
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Basically, they are not fans, they are zealots, and God help you if you don't see the sporting world their way.
Aussie soccer fans, I respect your choice of sport, please respect my choice to watch the NRL and the cricket
so lets talk about the time a game. it's 90 minutes right? well, until "OT" happens. But how long does this "ot" last? nobody knows. it just goes until the ref decides we've had enough exercise for the day and calls it a game. really, you are not going to tell the players and coachs that there is only 30 seconds left, or 5 minutes left or whatever.
ties are stupid. a sporting event should have a winner and a loser.
this goes for hockey and football too (even though they are extremely rare in football)
world baseball classic. look it up.
either way----when 1.6 goals are the norm, and horns are blasting NONSTOP, and there are only a few shots on goal for the whole game...its hard to argue that it's not boring. perhaps that's the reason why all the fans are playing musical instruments all game?
You'd prefer they go back to trampling the shite out of each other?
well if that is the alternative, then blow away.
Edit: Forgot to inculde the full article. Here it is.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 61406.html
So, break it down even further and you have offense and defense playing about 5 minutes each. Makes sense. There is no way a 132 year old Favre could still be playing otherwise.
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And yet that 11 minutes is still 100x more exciting than 90+ minutes of (soccer) football. I say that as someone who's not even particularly fond of NFL football.
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Yes, exactly. And half the time the QB is just handing the ball off so old man Favre is probably only actually physically exerting himself for 2.5 minutes in a game.
Those horns just bugged the shit out of both of us.
The game itself was cool, but that crazy bee noise was way too much for me.
i agree. and in that 11 minutes, they still put up more TD's than we have seen goals in teh world cup.
so i say again, F the world cup.
I still am confused as to why you feel the need to start a thread bashing an event many people here are very interested in. 95% of America could give a flying fuck about hockey but people didn't feel the need to say F the Stanley Cup Finals when you were intersted in it. If you don't like it, don't watch.
why? i dunno. why not. it's a good thread to get away from the countless world cup threads. we are getting the cup shoved down out throat. been to yahoo's home page or sports page lately? they have scores on the front page, then go to mlb, or nba or whatever, and they sneak a world cup score line at the bottom. i didn't see them doing that for the stanley cup. put all the world cup stuff on the soccer page and call it a day.
and lets not forget espn...have they even shown a soccer match in the last 5 years? WC rolls around and they go ape shit for it.
so once again, i say F the world cup. stop shoving it down my throat on great media members.
its amazing they can fit an average of 40 some points in those 11 minutes....yet soccer manages 1.6 in 90 minutes!
Much easier when each time you score it counts for 3-7 points. I would also bet the average combined score in the NFL is not in the 40's.
Either way, completely different sports and they both are what they are.
There is a reason they have it on the main page, it's not like they are guessing which links are getting the most clicks.
I hate ESPN.
be careful there. it's best to count td's scored vs points.
just glanced at yahoo....anouther 1-1 tie and the second game is at the half tied 0-0. weeeeee
either way, each team scores 3-4 times per game in football as opposed to 1-ish in soccer.
i used to play soccer in high school. i liked it. it just lulls me to sleep when i when i try to watch a full game. and those fucking horns...jesus.
i'll tune in for the US games though...
Missed the 1-1 tie but from what i hear it was an incredible finish, New Zealand scored in the 93rd minute. Current game is shaping up to be a good one as well. Not going to get into about this though.
I hear you. A lot of people I played soccer with in college don't like watching it, I understand it. Not a fan of the horns as well but they are not as bad as I thought they were going to be.
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i'd take that bet. the average combined score last season during the regular season was 42.9.
that would be roughly 6td's per game. i'd have to look to see what the ratio of td's to fg's are to see that total number of scoring events.
81 is right on target, here.
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wow.
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