Hippies - Crying Over Dead Trees

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  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    chadwick wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    I am not reading your bullshit statistics due to the fact that I am positive it is old news I have covered many times.

    I'm not against you on this topic, but dismissing someone's research merely because you don't think it's relevant does not help your cause.
    im not dismissing the research that was presented to me. i have read that kinda shit for years. i don't have time this morning to fuck with it. show me something i can cover in a quick read. show me a quick read of something that i do not already know. like i said i've been researching in the field of environmental science in school and for entertainment purposes for my own educational purposes.

    i do not own a tv. i write books and do reseach on the topics i love.

    btw, i am sorry if i seem arrogant.
    i have an incredible redwood tree's video you folks should watch.
    i'll try and find it.



    So let me get this straight . you want to dismiss the stats I presented to you b/c you dont want to be bothered by it ,but we should watch your video ? :roll: Arogant ??? Naw.. Not at all.. :roll:

    So you write books huh???
    Im just curious.. :eh:
    Exactly what kind of material are those books printed on ?
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Even when forest are "replanted" it is a cold, compromised version of the diverse ecosystem that once existed. Typically, a wide variety of trees are replaced by a single kind - often it is lodge pole pines because they grow so straight they make great lumber.

    and this book you have coming out... printed on what exactly? ;)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    dunkman wrote:
    well i'm offended that you're offended... they are crying about dead trees for fucks sake... if i came on here and posted about that I cried at the 27 dead flies on my car windscreen I'd be open to ridicule and rightly so... are you saying you've never made fun of anyone? I seriously seriously doubt that...

    i'm not saying i've never made fun of anyone but does it make it right? ... see, the problem with your reasoning and everyone else's is pure ignorance ... you guys don't know shit about their rituals but yet you find it open to ridicule ...

    as for your dead flies ... you may be ridiculed but it still doesn't make it right ... you want respect in this world - you should treat others with respect as well ...
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    Last night I laid in bed thinking about this thread. Please don't judge the incredible lameness of my life. ;) Anyway, I remembered this concept that I try to adhere to and I think it applies well to this situation and fixes the disagreements therein entirely.

    If everyone just said "seems" instead of "is" there would be much less bickering; "those hippies SEEM pathetic to me based on my life experiences and general perspective based on 29 years on this planet" rather than "they are pathetic."

    We (none of us) know what anything "is" we just know what things "seem to be." It is all opinion and everyone's opinion is valid as everyone else's and it may teach us something about ourselves and the world in general.

    Nobody, as far as I can tell, has said that the environment should be disregarded and thrown in the trash heap. So we're all in agreement on that. We're just bickering about our perspectives and there is NO SINGLE concrete perspective, no vantage point on this planet, that is the "correct" perspective. So this is a pointless argument. I'm moving on. Happy Friday, remember to recycle, and kick a hippie. :D (that is a joke, btw)
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Last night I laid in bed thinking about this thread. Please don't judge the incredible lameness of my life. ;) Anyway, I remembered this concept that I try to adhere to and I think it applies well to this situation and fixes the disagreements therein entirely.

    If everyone just said "seems" instead of "is" there would be much less bickering; "those hippies SEEM pathetic to me based on my life experiences and general perspective based on 29 years on this planet" rather than "they are pathetic."

    We (none of us) know what anything "is" we just know what things "seem to be." It is all opinion and everyone's opinion is valid as everyone else's and it may teach us something about ourselves and the world in general.

    Nobody, as far as I can tell, has said that the environment should be disregarded and thrown in the trash heap. So we're all in agreement on that. We're just bickering about our perspectives and there is NO SINGLE concrete perspective, no vantage point on this planet, that is the "correct" perspective. So this is a pointless argument. I'm moving on. Happy Friday, remember to recycle, and kick a hippie. :D (that is a joke, btw)


    You seem to be drunk. ;)
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    polaris_x wrote:
    dunkman wrote:
    well i'm offended that you're offended... they are crying about dead trees for fucks sake... if i came on here and posted about that I cried at the 27 dead flies on my car windscreen I'd be open to ridicule and rightly so... are you saying you've never made fun of anyone? I seriously seriously doubt that...

    i'm not saying i've never made fun of anyone but does it make it right? ... see, the problem with your reasoning and everyone else's is pure ignorance ... you guys don't know shit about their rituals but yet you find it open to ridicule ...

    as for your dead flies ... you may be ridiculed but it still doesn't make it right ... you want respect in this world - you should treat others with respect as well ...

    i could study their 'rituals' for the next 3 years and I still wouldn't comprehend the need to cry about a dead tree... just as I wouldnt understand why women do that flappy hand thing in front of their face when they are about to cry...

    as the other guy above me just said... I am in no way ridiculing what their stance is, it's actually very admirable.. but to shed tears about a dead tree deserves the same mockery from me as if i had just seen an extremely fat person sob because she just saw her last cake being squashed by a car...

    this world has become so fucking boring because of its politically correctness its unreal... we can't laugh at people these days? fuck that... I'll continue to mock and laugh at stupidity all i want... and i find crying about a dead tree stupid... just as I find the national dress of England stupid... ergo, I laugh.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Last night I laid in bed thinking about this thread. Please don't judge the incredible lameness of my life. ;) Anyway, I remembered this concept that I try to adhere to and I think it applies well to this situation and fixes the disagreements therein entirely.

    If everyone just said "seems" instead of "is" there would be much less bickering; "those hippies SEEM pathetic to me based on my life experiences and general perspective based on 29 years on this planet" rather than "they are pathetic."

    We (none of us) know what anything "is" we just know what things "seem to be." It is all opinion and everyone's opinion is valid as everyone else's and it may teach us something about ourselves and the world in general.

    Nobody, as far as I can tell, has said that the environment should be disregarded and thrown in the trash heap. So we're all in agreement on that. We're just bickering about our perspectives and there is NO SINGLE concrete perspective, no vantage point on this planet, that is the "correct" perspective. So this is a pointless argument. I'm moving on. Happy Friday, remember to recycle, and kick a hippie. :D (that is a joke, btw)


    You seem to be drunk. ;)

    i hope not as that would offend me... raping the world of valuable hops, barley and water so that he can drink beer!!! fucking evil that is... unless of course he's drunk on Budweiser in which case he has only destroyed buffalo urine... which is easily replaceable.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    dunkman wrote:
    this world has become so fucking boring because of its politically correctness its unreal... we can't laugh at people these days? fuck that... I'll continue to mock and laugh at stupidity all i want... and i find crying about a dead tree stupid... just as I find the national dress of England stupid... ergo, I laugh.

    i have no doubt that you will
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Who is talking about volcanoes? Our destruction is far too fast for natural cycles to keep pace and filter the problems. Here is the very tip of the iceberg. Don't look below the surface, or you might be horrified. When the world's water is poison, what are you and Heidi going to drink?
    To answer your question, I will be drinking Coke Zero and an occasional Summit Extra Pale Ale.

    I wasn’t comparing a volcano to whatever effects mankind is creating. I was just pointing out how resilient life is in reclaiming an area that suffered massive fallout in a very short period of time.

    And I understand our impact on the earth and I'm doing my best to help preserve it.

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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    prfctlefts wrote:
    So let me get this straight . you want to dismiss the stats I presented to you b/c you dont want to be bothered by it ,but we should watch your video ? :roll: Arogant ??? Naw.. Not at all.. :roll:

    So you write books huh???
    Im just curious.. :eh:
    Exactly what kind of material are those books printed on ?

    yesterday was the first day i ran into some of you clowns. i felt it necessary to introduce myself. hi im chadwick, blah, blah, blah. i admit i got excited. however i didn't lie, i do study the environmental sciences and write essays on it, i do my own research by living. and i write poetry like an obsessed wildman.

    i live in a badger's den under a tree. i plant whiskers and grow vikings. out in my garden i have an army of berzerkers that'll whip a mother's ass in a hurry. they like trees. i have heard they chop up trees and build sea worthy crafts. i'm positive they manage forests quite nicely. they do enjoy axe skull fighting. but more exciting than that is the "battle hammer broken shoulder competition." we have fun together.
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    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    chadwick wrote:

    yesterday was the first day i ran into some of you clowns. i felt it necessary to introduce myself. hi im chadwick, blah, blah, blah. i admit i got excited. however i didn't lie, i do study the environmental sciences and write essays on it, i do my own research by living. and i write poetry like an obsessed wildman.


    Don't be so modest. You didn't just "study the environmental sciences and write essays on it" you "excelled at and wrote incredible papers" on environmental studies. ;)

    You have an amazing way with words.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    chadwick wrote:

    yesterday was the first day i ran into some of you clowns. i felt it necessary to introduce myself. hi im chadwick, blah, blah, blah. i admit i got excited. however i didn't lie, i do study the environmental sciences and write essays on it, i do my own research by living. and i write poetry like an obsessed wildman.


    Don't be so modest. You didn't just "study the environmental sciences and write essays on it" you "excelled at and wrote incredible papers" on environmental studies. ;)

    You have an amazing way with words.
    yeah i have and it was exciting. i had a boner the entire time doing research on things like trees and salamanders.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    dunkman wrote:
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Even when forest are "replanted" it is a cold, compromised version of the diverse ecosystem that once existed. Typically, a wide variety of trees are replaced by a single kind - often it is lodge pole pines because they grow so straight they make great lumber.

    and this book you have coming out... printed on what exactly? ;)

    You and Heidi pooling your brilliant logic? Maybe I should kill myself for being a hypocrite... Oh wait, I never said I don't use resources. In fact, I said all life competes for them. But humans could do it a whole lot better, they are just so full of apathy, they won't. If I had a choice of product, it would have been human flesh, but I didn't get a choice. It isn't my company. However, I can tell you that when given a choice, I always choose recycled goods. I also recycle every single thing I can and like I said, I try to consume local organic sustainable food as much as possible. I also write to try and educate people on appreciating the environment, so maybe a tree will forgive me if I can convince 100 or a 1,000 humans to rethink their daily choices and maybe even save a few down the road. It's a game of balance, but at least I play, rather then mock those who care.

    Oh, and for the record, I never even watched the video. :lol:
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    eyedclaar wrote:
    dunkman wrote:
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Even when forest are "replanted" it is a cold, compromised version of the diverse ecosystem that once existed. Typically, a wide variety of trees are replaced by a single kind - often it is lodge pole pines because they grow so straight they make great lumber.

    and this book you have coming out... printed on what exactly? ;)

    You and Heidi pooling your brilliant logic? Maybe I should kill myself for being a hypocrite... Oh wait, I never said I don't use resources. In fact, I said all life competes for them. But humans could do it a whole lot better, they are just so full of apathy, they won't. If I had a choice of product, it would have been human flesh, but I didn't get a choice. It isn't my company. However, I can tell you that when given a choice, I always choose recycled goods. I also recycle every single thing I can and like I said, I try to consume local organic sustainable food as much as possible. I also write to try and educate people on appreciating the environment, so maybe a tree will forgive me if I can convince 100 or a 1,000 humans to rethink their daily choices and maybe even save a few down the road. It's a game of balance, but at least I play, rather then mock those who care.

    Oh, and for the record, I never even watched the video. :lol:

    rather then mock those who care? then? man, that doesn't even make sense. ;)

    I never said you never used resources... i'm saying it's fairly hypocritical of you to say that it's more pathetic to cry about a dead human rather than a dead tree and then actually be someone who has a book published on aforementioned dead tree... it's also hypocritical of you to say "Even when forest are "replanted" it is a cold, compromised version of the diverse ecosystem that once existed." when you are partly responsible for that forest getting replanted... be like me saying all fish should be free to roam in rivers and the sea and then buy shares in a fish farm... kinda. ish.

    I watched it on mute... I could see them wailing though. That was embarrassing enough.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    chadwick wrote:
    i had a boner the entire time doing research on things like trees

    wood for wood...
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    dunkman wrote:

    I never said you never used resources... i'm saying it's fairly hypocritical of you to say that it's more pathetic to cry about a dead human rather than a dead tree and then actually be someone who has a book published on aforementioned dead tree... it's also hypocritical of you to say "Even when forest are "replanted" it is a cold, compromised version of the diverse ecosystem that once existed." when you are partly responsible for that forest getting replanted... be like me saying all fish should be free to roam in rivers and the sea and then buy shares in a fish farm... kinda. ish.

    I watched it on mute... I could see them wailing though. That was embarrassing enough.

    That is such a cop out excuse for people who really don't care to not ever get involved and help. Well, gee, it's so hypocritical of me to eat food and use paper, that I can't suggest there might be a better way. Guess what, I am comfortable with my level of hypocrisy because I do my best to offset it in other ways. I donate money and my time and my art to help these causes. I support green industries. I ride my bike whenever possible. What do you do?

    I suppose everyone who uses a resource should just shut up and go about their business. That ought to solve our problems.
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  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    eyedclaar wrote:
    dunkman wrote:

    I never said you never used resources... i'm saying it's fairly hypocritical of you to say that it's more pathetic to cry about a dead human rather than a dead tree and then actually be someone who has a book published on aforementioned dead tree... it's also hypocritical of you to say "Even when forest are "replanted" it is a cold, compromised version of the diverse ecosystem that once existed." when you are partly responsible for that forest getting replanted... be like me saying all fish should be free to roam in rivers and the sea and then buy shares in a fish farm... kinda. ish.

    I watched it on mute... I could see them wailing though. That was embarrassing enough.

    That is such a cop out excuse for people who really don't care to not ever get involved and help. Well, gee, it's so hypocritical of me to eat food and use paper, that I can't suggest there might be a better way. Guess what, I am comfortable with my level of hypocrisy because I do my best to offset it in other ways. I donate money and my time and my art to help these causes. I support green industries. I ride my bike whenever possible. What do you do?

    I suppose everyone who uses a resource should just shut up and go about their business. That ought to solve our problems.

    to be honest i lost all respect for you the minute you hit reply on that post with your 'than/then' fuck up.

    anyway, clearly this is serious stuff for you... so i'll answer... i do quite a few of the above things. I cycle a lot, i buy recycled products for everything that we can... i have a compost bin... my wife grows herbs... we bought a car last year that is in the lowest emissions bracket for the UK...

    we try.

    but what we don't do is cry about a fucking tree... nor do I act like a ecological saviour and try and lambast people who find someone crying about a tree slightly pathetic... nor do i blame all of humanity for what would appear to be a problem caused by a small percentage of that humanity... nor do i display a pompousness as to what other people might do or not do in regards to the environment and its care...

    everyone uses a resource... but sitting sobbing about a murdered branch isnt going to do fuck all to restore those resources... if anything the salt in that wailing hairy womans tears will probably have killed about 4 tiny arachnids that were quite happily living in the soil just before she plonked her braless arse down on the ground.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    really ... this isn't about the environment ...

    it's about the right for people to be dicks
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    There are a lot of incredibly funny comments in this thread ... Kudos! :lol:
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    edited June 2010
    dunkman wrote:

    to be honest i lost all respect for you the minute you hit reply on that post with your 'than/then' fuck up.

    anyway, clearly this is serious stuff for you... so i'll answer... i do quite a few of the above things. I cycle a lot, i buy recycled products for everything that we can... i have a compost bin... my wife grows herbs... we bought a car last year that is in the lowest emissions bracket for the UK...

    we try.

    but what we don't do is cry about a fucking tree... nor do I act like a ecological saviour and try and lambast people who find someone crying about a try slightly pathetic... nor do i blame all of humanity for what would appear to be a problem caused by a small percentage of that humanity... nor do i display a pompousness as to what other people might do or not do in regards to the environment and its care...

    everyone uses a resource... but sitting sobbing about a murdered branch isnt going to do fuck all to restore those resources... if anything the salt in that wailing hairy womans tears will probably have killed about 4 tiny arachnids that were quite happily living in the soil just before she plonked her braless arse down on the ground.

    You should probably focus on your own sentences. Plenty of mistakes. But nice try to discredit me over so little an issue. And you don't diplay pompousness? You're the most arrogant person on this board. Also, you keep going back to the wailing hippies that I never even watched, when clearly, I am talking about a much larger issue. But that's alright, they are easy prey. Like punching orphans. I suppose you would support their stance if they were slitting throats instead of crying? Somehow, I don't think you would. I think you know that I'm not the type to sit around crying about something. For the sake of all things legal, I can't mention the things I have done. However, I also know that not everyone is willing to react the same way I do.

    And you are right, I take environmental causes seriously. I can't think of a more important cause. There isn't a more important cause.
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  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    polaris_x wrote:
    really ... this isn't about the environment ...

    it's about the right for people to be dicks

    remember, "it SEEMS to be about the right for people to be dicks"

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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,158
    There are a lot of incredibly funny comments in this thread ... Kudos! :lol:
    The unintentional comedy factor of hippies is outstanding. :D

    Several things I have observed:

    1) Don't do drugs while post-editing a video
    2) Focus your crying on clear cut forests, not a tree that died of natural causes somewhere in Georgia.
    3) Don't do drugs while post-editing a video

    If anything, maybe a few of us will think a little more about what we can personally do to help out and preserve this unique planet (no matter what our independent views are).
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Jason P wrote:
    There are a lot of incredibly funny comments in this thread ... Kudos! :lol:
    The unintentional comedy factor of hippies is outstanding. :D

    Several things I have observed:

    1) Don't do drugs while post-editing a video
    2) Focus your crying on clear cut forests, not a tree that died of natural causes somewhere in Georgia.
    3) Don't do drugs while post-editing a video

    If anything, maybe a few of us will think a little more about what we can personally do to help out and preserve this unique planet (no matter what our independent views are).
  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Jason P wrote:
    There are a lot of incredibly funny comments in this thread ... Kudos! :lol:
    The unintentional comedy factor of hippies is outstanding. :D

    Several things I have observed:

    1) Don't do drugs while post-editing a video
    2) Focus your crying on clear cut forests, not a tree that died of natural causes somewhere in Georgia.
    3) Don't do drugs while post-editing a video

    If anything, maybe a few of us will think a little more about what we can personally do to help out and preserve this unique planet (no matter what our independent views are).

    Agreed ... I am firmly in the pro-hippies camp, by and large. Still, good material. :lol:
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Jason P wrote:
    There are a lot of incredibly funny comments in this thread ... Kudos! :lol:
    The unintentional comedy factor of hippies is outstanding. :D

    Several things I have observed:

    1) Don't do drugs while post-editing a video
    2) Focus your crying on clear cut forests, not a tree that died of natural causes somewhere in Georgia.
    3) Don't do drugs while post-editing a video

    If anything, maybe a few of us will think a little more about what we can personally do to help out and preserve this unique planet (no matter what our independent views are).

    Agreed ... I am firmly in the pro-hippies camp, by and large. Still, good material. :lol:

    At some point, I am going to take their bongs away and teach them to use an AR-15.
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    eyedclaar wrote:
    At some point, I am going to take their bongs away and teach them to use an AR-15.

    I can help with that ... sounds like good times.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    polaris_x wrote:
    really ... this isn't about the environment ...

    it's about the right for people to be dicks

    remember, "it SEEMS to be about the right for people to be dicks"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

    sorry ... my bad ...
  • he still standshe still stands Posts: 2,835
    polaris_x wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    really ... this isn't about the environment ...

    it's about the right for people to be dicks

    remember, "it SEEMS to be about the right for people to be dicks"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ

    sorry ... my bad ...

    no problem. You seem to be a very nice individual. I seem to be a verb.
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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    eyedclaar wrote:
    At some point, I am going to take their bongs away and teach them to use an AR-15.

    I can help with that ... sounds like good times.

    Well, I'd let them have their bongs back at night once the daily mission was accomplished. I'm not a total hard-ass. An army of hippy commandos, now that's frightening! :)
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    eyedclaar wrote:
    Well, I'd let them have their bongs back at night once the daily mission was accomplished. I'm not a total hard-ass. An army of hippy commandos, now that's frightening! :)

    Might not even need the weaponry ... Their innate powers of repulsion might be sufficient. One of my friends in Vancouver says it best: "People should not smell organic".
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