most sports "hatred" is not rational.....I hate tiger just like so many people hate the yankees or the cowboys.
Irrational sports hatred is fun. When I watch any team play the Heat (especially the Bulls), I'm like a fucking basket case.
there you go....I hate tiger because it's fun. don't ruin my fun
it was also fun to see him give half a billion to elin
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personally thought it was great to see Tiger get back to winning ways
a true great, and a legend of the sport......i hope he takes the masters and the makes the statement we all know he can
i dont judge him by his personal life, i just admire the player he was and i hope he will be again
Exactly.
It's also great to see the best at anything BE the best...
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I know Tiger isn't a role model but as a golfer he is...well, the best. Why do you hate him so much? Really.
he claims it's bc tiger is "entitled" and surrounded by enablers, which may be true, but the same argument can be made about just about every single golfer on tour. this includes alive's tubby favorite phil mickelson whose as country club asshat as anyone else, bangs around on his wife, treats tournament interns like a d-bag, etc. thus his hatred on tiger makes no sense.
whoa, whoa, whoa RW....I didn't know I had a press secretary
yeah, I like phil over tiger but he's hardly my "favorite." I'm really not much of a fan of anyone in the white belt crowd.
I dislike tiger for his phoniness. my most accounts, he's pretty much a POS person. I hope he never wins another major. most sports "hatred" is not rational.....I hate tiger just like so many people hate the yankees or the cowboys.
fuck tiger
I don't hate the Yankees I just dislike them very very much. i do like to watch Tiger and golf when he's winning. Due to such hatred of Tiger he'll probably go on and win another major or two.
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"hate" is a strong word. I probably don't literally hate tiger. I just hope for the worst when it comes to him :x
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arnold palmer...ya know, great golfer...tiger won his tourney yesterday...he was hospitalized yesterday
I've heard of that dude . didn't know he was having problems....I don't follow him on twitter
I grew up in a house divided....dad was a jack guy; mom loved arnie. of course, back then, all the ladies went for arnie
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Speaking of Tiger, PGA Golf 13 hits the shelves on Tuesday.
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tigers victory i dont think means much. I dont think anyone says he's the same player he was in 2000. He's gotten old it seems. I dont think the players fear him like they used to. I also think his personal demons had more of an impact on him than we will ever know. My belief is that he got bored. He was coasting, Winning and winning and winning. And i think he got bored of it. Maybe not consciously, more subconsciously. And what he said about it mirrors my analysis, he talked about how he felt priveledged and deserved things, and i think this goes along with the idea of being bored. He went into tournaments not expecting to win, but rather seemingly on hole 1 wanting the prize right then and there. Like his mere prescence at the tournament guaranteed he'd win.
I dont think tiger will ever win another major, and I think his tour victories will be few and far between. I think its a combination of his age, his body seemingly breaking down, and the mental mindset he is in in the wake of the scandal.
I think he also isnt playing as much as he used to. He's said his priorties were out of whack during the years of cheating. He makes it sound like he wasnt much of a dad or husband. Now it sounds like he spends alot more time with his kids, and that takes up most of his time. So he isnt practicing and playing as much. And that certainly has an impact on whether he wins on the course.
As recently as last year he was interviewed and he made it sound like he has no desire to play golf the rest of his life, and plans on doing something else. I didnt get the sense he's talking about retiring in his 50's or 60s. I got a sense it was in the near future. And he seemed okay with that.
i was a huge fan of the guys in the early 2000's. But its hard to follow him now, I dont respect him, and i dont know, what he did was just so far out of the realm of just common decency, its hard to even talk about. He has or had a huge problem.
i have no idea if he was sincere in his talk about the scandal and what happened, but it sounds like as i said, it had a major impact on him, the realization either that he was caught, or a genuine reflection that what he was doing was harming his children and wife. The impact of all that not only on his golf game but on his personal life, his kids lives, his ex wife, his friends and family, I dont think its accurately reflected in him not winning in a while prior to the other day. I think when he isnt on the golf course, and even when he is, I think he's most likely thinking about alot more than the shot he's hitting. And that has an impact
Tiger moves the needle, huh? Most golf chat in here in a while.
Who knows if he is fully back. But he concluded 8 days of golf with his first win in years and looked damn good doing it. And it wasn't an easy course by any stretch of the imagination. I think there were only 3 sub 70 rounds on Sunday including his 69. Was awesome to see him walk up 18 with it in hand. Can't wait for Augusta. Easter Sunday could be a lot of fun.
Tiger moves the needle, huh? Most golf chat in here in a while.
Who knows if he is fully back. But he concluded 8 days of golf with his first win in years and looked damn good doing it. And it wasn't an easy course by any stretch of the imagination. I think there were only 3 sub 70 rounds on Sunday including his 69. Was awesome to see him walk up 18 with it in hand. Can't wait for Augusta. Easter Sunday could be a lot of fun.
I agree with you about Easter; going to be a lot of fun flipping back and forth with the Yankees and Augusta.
I think this win for Tiger is a huge confidence booster for him.
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Tiger moves the needle, huh? Most golf chat in here in a while.
Who knows if he is fully back. But he concluded 8 days of golf with his first win in years and looked damn good doing it. And it wasn't an easy course by any stretch of the imagination. I think there were only 3 sub 70 rounds on Sunday including his 69. Was awesome to see him walk up 18 with it in hand. Can't wait for Augusta. Easter Sunday could be a lot of fun.
I agree with you about Easter; going to be a lot of fun flipping back and forth with the Yankees and Augusta.
I think this win for Tiger is a huge confidence booster for him.
Definitely, dude. That will be great. Love me the spring.
Yeah, definitely. At least reassurance that his hard work is paying off. Yesterday was the first time in a long time where you knew he was going to win and he was in complete control.
Tiger moves the needle, huh? Most golf chat in here in a while.
Who knows if he is fully back. But he concluded 8 days of golf with his first win in years and looked damn good doing it. And it wasn't an easy course by any stretch of the imagination. I think there were only 3 sub 70 rounds on Sunday including his 69. Was awesome to see him walk up 18 with it in hand. Can't wait for Augusta. Easter Sunday could be a lot of fun.
I agree with you about Easter; going to be a lot of fun flipping back and forth with the Yankees and Augusta.
I think this win for Tiger is a huge confidence booster for him.
Definitely, dude. That will be great. Love me the spring.
Yeah, definitely. At least reassurance that his hard work is paying off. Yesterday was the first time in a long time where you knew he was going to win and he was in complete control.
Same here.
I caught a little bit yesterday. When Tiger is on, he's unstoppable.
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tigers victory i dont think means much. I dont think anyone says he's the same player he was in 2000. He's gotten old it seems. I dont think the players fear him like they used to. I also think his personal demons had more of an impact on him than we will ever know. My belief is that he got bored. He was coasting, Winning and winning and winning. And i think he got bored of it. Maybe not consciously, more subconsciously. And what he said about it mirrors my analysis, he talked about how he felt priveledged and deserved things, and i think this goes along with the idea of being bored. He went into tournaments not expecting to win, but rather seemingly on hole 1 wanting the prize right then and there. Like his mere prescence at the tournament guaranteed he'd win.
I dont think tiger will ever win another major, and I think his tour victories will be few and far between. I think its a combination of his age, his body seemingly breaking down, and the mental mindset he is in in the wake of the scandal.
I think he also isnt playing as much as he used to. He's said his priorties were out of whack during the years of cheating. He makes it sound like he wasnt much of a dad or husband. Now it sounds like he spends alot more time with his kids, and that takes up most of his time. So he isnt practicing and playing as much. And that certainly has an impact on whether he wins on the course.
As recently as last year he was interviewed and he made it sound like he has no desire to play golf the rest of his life, and plans on doing something else. I didnt get the sense he's talking about retiring in his 50's or 60s. I got a sense it was in the near future. And he seemed okay with that.
i was a huge fan of the guys in the early 2000's. But its hard to follow him now, I dont respect him, and i dont know, what he did was just so far out of the realm of just common decency, its hard to even talk about. He has or had a huge problem.
really? an athlete isn't the same now as he was 12 years ago?
there is really no need for me to read the rest of that post.
what made jordan so brilliant was how when he came back in 1995, he was probably a better player than he was in the previous incarnation. He was older. He couldnt dunk as much. And he completely rearranged his game, and came up with the fadeaway jumper and shots on the perimeter which was as lethal and unstoppable as any shot he ever had.
With tiger, he's been retooling and changing his swing for as long as i can remember. its been years of that. his age obviously effects him, and he isnt going to be driving the ball 300 plus yards anymore. he just isnt. Those insane shots arent there anymore. And this is how he seems different from MJ. Tiger isnt the same player he was in 2000. And so far his multiple attempts to change his game have failed. The tiger of 2012 isnt lethal, nor is he feared. the jordan of 1995 and 1996 was just as feared as the jordan of 1991 and 1992.
One of the major things ive always admired about jordan is how proving people wrong drives him. Kobe is the same way. They thrive on people saying "he's old, he's washed up" "he cant do this". With tiger that seems to have evaporated on that Thanksgiving night a few years ago. He's got many people, myself included, saying he's never going to win another major again, and that his tour victories will be few and far between. He's lost millions of fans, disappointed millions, lost endorsements, and hasnt won a major in years, and has only won 1 tour event in years. the desire to prove people wrong isnt there. the desire to prove naysayers wrong doesnt seem to be motivating tiger. and im not sure if it ever did. i think he wanted 19 majors. i think thats all thats driven him since he was a youngster. thats been the motivator.
for whatever reason he hasnt been able to come up with a way to dominate the game like he once did. and i think the scandal didnt help in this matter, and only made things worse.
could tiger rearrange his game and tailor it to his strengths as a veteran and "older" player now and be as dominant and deadly as he was in 2000? sure. but i dont think he will.
i dont think he will win at augusta, nor do i think he will ever win another major
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Irrational sports hatred is fun. When I watch any team play the Heat (especially the Bulls), I'm like a fucking basket case.
there you go....I hate tiger because it's fun. don't ruin my fun
it was also fun to see him give half a billion to elin
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a true great, and a legend of the sport......i hope he takes the masters and the makes the statement we all know he can
i dont judge him by his personal life, i just admire the player he was and i hope he will be again
It's also great to see the best at anything BE the best...
I don't hate the Yankees I just dislike them very very much.
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btw, i hope arnie gets better
barry kept it real
who's arnie? :?
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I've heard of that dude
I grew up in a house divided....dad was a jack guy; mom loved arnie. of course, back then, all the ladies went for arnie
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shoulda had some perkins waitresses and assorted floozies on the cover.
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I dont think tiger will ever win another major, and I think his tour victories will be few and far between. I think its a combination of his age, his body seemingly breaking down, and the mental mindset he is in in the wake of the scandal.
I think he also isnt playing as much as he used to. He's said his priorties were out of whack during the years of cheating. He makes it sound like he wasnt much of a dad or husband. Now it sounds like he spends alot more time with his kids, and that takes up most of his time. So he isnt practicing and playing as much. And that certainly has an impact on whether he wins on the course.
As recently as last year he was interviewed and he made it sound like he has no desire to play golf the rest of his life, and plans on doing something else. I didnt get the sense he's talking about retiring in his 50's or 60s. I got a sense it was in the near future. And he seemed okay with that.
i was a huge fan of the guys in the early 2000's. But its hard to follow him now, I dont respect him, and i dont know, what he did was just so far out of the realm of just common decency, its hard to even talk about. He has or had a huge problem.
Who knows if he is fully back. But he concluded 8 days of golf with his first win in years and looked damn good doing it. And it wasn't an easy course by any stretch of the imagination. I think there were only 3 sub 70 rounds on Sunday including his 69. Was awesome to see him walk up 18 with it in hand. Can't wait for Augusta. Easter Sunday could be a lot of fun.
I think this win for Tiger is a huge confidence booster for him.
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Definitely, dude. That will be great. Love me the spring.
Yeah, definitely. At least reassurance that his hard work is paying off. Yesterday was the first time in a long time where you knew he was going to win and he was in complete control.
I caught a little bit yesterday. When Tiger is on, he's unstoppable.
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really? an athlete isn't the same now as he was 12 years ago?
there is really no need for me to read the rest of that post.
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Like the article said, a perfect opening for them to.
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With tiger, he's been retooling and changing his swing for as long as i can remember. its been years of that. his age obviously effects him, and he isnt going to be driving the ball 300 plus yards anymore. he just isnt. Those insane shots arent there anymore. And this is how he seems different from MJ. Tiger isnt the same player he was in 2000. And so far his multiple attempts to change his game have failed. The tiger of 2012 isnt lethal, nor is he feared. the jordan of 1995 and 1996 was just as feared as the jordan of 1991 and 1992.
One of the major things ive always admired about jordan is how proving people wrong drives him. Kobe is the same way. They thrive on people saying "he's old, he's washed up" "he cant do this". With tiger that seems to have evaporated on that Thanksgiving night a few years ago. He's got many people, myself included, saying he's never going to win another major again, and that his tour victories will be few and far between. He's lost millions of fans, disappointed millions, lost endorsements, and hasnt won a major in years, and has only won 1 tour event in years. the desire to prove people wrong isnt there. the desire to prove naysayers wrong doesnt seem to be motivating tiger. and im not sure if it ever did. i think he wanted 19 majors. i think thats all thats driven him since he was a youngster. thats been the motivator.
for whatever reason he hasnt been able to come up with a way to dominate the game like he once did. and i think the scandal didnt help in this matter, and only made things worse.
could tiger rearrange his game and tailor it to his strengths as a veteran and "older" player now and be as dominant and deadly as he was in 2000? sure. but i dont think he will.
i dont think he will win at augusta, nor do i think he will ever win another major