14 years and counting...

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

rgambs said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

RPut yourself in the mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished and dangerous place who risks their life to make it to a wonderful place you hear about every day where everyone eats and drives and is safe.  A glorious place of freedom where everyone has a chance to make their childrens' lives better...
Now read your posts (and this one ^^ in particular) back to yourself and try to see how bitter, petty, and small you sound.

Yes, it also took sacrifices of many generations to get Canada to the point to where it is.  Including many who fought in world wars to get to where we are. "Mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished", this describes many First Nation reserves ... how is that fair?  The European conquerers continue to keep them impoverished while they continue to bring in aasylum seekers who are treated better than our First Nations.  Our First Nations people should start claiming asylum.

Again, more narrow minded, uninformed opinion. It shows how you don't really understand the very intricate First Nations issue either (which is a very real issue, but that you think it would somehow be improved by zero tolerance immigration reform, or that First Nations would fucking want to claim asylum somehow, proves that you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to solutions or the most complex parts of the issue). Dude, you're just fucking mad, and I think you have let that really work against you. You've rendered yourself incapable of thinking about these issues in a rational and complex way.

Meltdown99

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

rgambs said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

RPut yourself in the mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished and dangerous place who risks their life to make it to a wonderful place you hear about every day where everyone eats and drives and is safe.  A glorious place of freedom where everyone has a chance to make their childrens' lives better...
Now read your posts (and this one ^^ in particular) back to yourself and try to see how bitter, petty, and small you sound.

Yes, it also took sacrifices of many generations to get Canada to the point to where it is.  Including many who fought in world wars to get to where we are. "Mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished", this describes many First Nation reserves ... how is that fair?  The European conquerers continue to keep them impoverished while they continue to bring in aasylum seekers who are treated better than our First Nations.  Our First Nations people should start claiming asylum.

Again, more narrow minded, uninformed opinion. It shows how you don't really understand the very intricate First Nations issue either (which is a very real issue, but that you think it would somehow be improved by zero tolerance immigration reform, or that First Nations would fucking want to claim asylum somehow, proves that you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to solutions or the most complex parts of the issue). Dude, you're just fucking mad, and I think you have let that really work against you. You've rendered yourself incapable of thinking about these issues in a rational and complex way.

I enjoy being lectured by such open minded descendants of immigrants who live on stolen land and dictate European bullshit laws to our First Nations.  I know I am living on stolen land and I want to absolutely to see the government make right ... by the way First Nations people are not expecting us to leave, they are expecting us to treat them as good as immigrants if not better.  Thats nots too much too ask.  I would say you as a descendent of European immigrants have a narrow view ... 

HughFreakingDillon

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

rgambs said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

RPut yourself in the mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished and dangerous place who risks their life to make it to a wonderful place you hear about every day where everyone eats and drives and is safe.  A glorious place of freedom where everyone has a chance to make their childrens' lives better...
Now read your posts (and this one ^^ in particular) back to yourself and try to see how bitter, petty, and small you sound.

Yes, it also took sacrifices of many generations to get Canada to the point to where it is.  Including many who fought in world wars to get to where we are. "Mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished", this describes many First Nation reserves ... how is that fair?  The European conquerers continue to keep them impoverished while they continue to bring in aasylum seekers who are treated better than our First Nations.  Our First Nations people should start claiming asylum.

Again, more narrow minded, uninformed opinion. It shows how you don't really understand the very intricate First Nations issue either (which is a very real issue, but that you think it would somehow be improved by zero tolerance immigration reform, or that First Nations would fucking want to claim asylum somehow, proves that you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to solutions or the most complex parts of the issue). Dude, you're just fucking mad, and I think you have let that really work against you. You've rendered yourself incapable of thinking about these issues in a rational and complex way.

I enjoy being lectured by such open minded descendants of immigrants who live on stolen land and dictate European bullshit laws to our First Nations.  I know I am living on stolen land and I want to absolutely to see the government make right ... by the way First Nations people are not expecting us to leave, they are expecting us to treat them as good as immigrants if not better.  Thats nots too much too ask.  I would say you as a descendent of European immigrants have a narrow view ... 

one issue has zero to do with the other. what happened and continues to happen to first nations is an atrocity, but I have no idea what that has to do with helping people from other countries, especially when your only argument against is economical, when it has been proven that immigration HELPS the economy. 

don't let your blind hatred of Trudea mask everything. 

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

rgambs said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

RPut yourself in the mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished and dangerous place who risks their life to make it to a wonderful place you hear about every day where everyone eats and drives and is safe.  A glorious place of freedom where everyone has a chance to make their childrens' lives better...
Now read your posts (and this one ^^ in particular) back to yourself and try to see how bitter, petty, and small you sound.

Yes, it also took sacrifices of many generations to get Canada to the point to where it is.  Including many who fought in world wars to get to where we are. "Mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished", this describes many First Nation reserves ... how is that fair?  The European conquerers continue to keep them impoverished while they continue to bring in aasylum seekers who are treated better than our First Nations.  Our First Nations people should start claiming asylum.

Again, more narrow minded, uninformed opinion. It shows how you don't really understand the very intricate First Nations issue either (which is a very real issue, but that you think it would somehow be improved by zero tolerance immigration reform, or that First Nations would fucking want to claim asylum somehow, proves that you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to solutions or the most complex parts of the issue). Dude, you're just fucking mad, and I think you have let that really work against you. You've rendered yourself incapable of thinking about these issues in a rational and complex way.

I enjoy being lectured by such open minded descendants of immigrants who live on stolen land and dictate European bullshit laws to our First Nations.  I know I am living on stolen land and I want to absolutely to see the government make right ... by the way First Nations people are not expecting us to leave, they are expecting us to treat them as good as immigrants if not better.  Thats nots too much too ask.  I would say you as a descendent of European immigrants have a narrow view ... 

Again, you're just making no sense. Why you keep changing the subject like this is totally beyond me, but it makes it literally impossible to discuss the current immigration issue with you. So I guess I'm just going to ignore you completely in this thread now. You're either unwilling or unable to consider the topic at hand rationally.

Meltdown99

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

rgambs said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

RPut yourself in the mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished and dangerous place who risks their life to make it to a wonderful place you hear about every day where everyone eats and drives and is safe.  A glorious place of freedom where everyone has a chance to make their childrens' lives better...
Now read your posts (and this one ^^ in particular) back to yourself and try to see how bitter, petty, and small you sound.

Yes, it also took sacrifices of many generations to get Canada to the point to where it is.  Including many who fought in world wars to get to where we are. "Mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished", this describes many First Nation reserves ... how is that fair?  The European conquerers continue to keep them impoverished while they continue to bring in aasylum seekers who are treated better than our First Nations.  Our First Nations people should start claiming asylum.

Again, more narrow minded, uninformed opinion. It shows how you don't really understand the very intricate First Nations issue either (which is a very real issue, but that you think it would somehow be improved by zero tolerance immigration reform, or that First Nations would fucking want to claim asylum somehow, proves that you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to solutions or the most complex parts of the issue). Dude, you're just fucking mad, and I think you have let that really work against you. You've rendered yourself incapable of thinking about these issues in a rational and complex way.

I enjoy being lectured by such open minded descendants of immigrants who live on stolen land and dictate European bullshit laws to our First Nations.  I know I am living on stolen land and I want to absolutely to see the government make right ... by the way First Nations people are not expecting us to leave, they are expecting us to treat them as good as immigrants if not better.  Thats nots too much too ask.  I would say you as a descendent of European immigrants have a narrow view ... 

Again, you're just making no sense. Why you keep changing the subject like this is totally beyond me, but it makes it literally impossible to discuss the current immigration issue with you. So I guess I'm just going to ignore you completely in this thread now. You're either unwilling or unable to consider the topic at hand rationally.

Address the issue .... First Nation are essentially second class citizens to some European descendants...

Meltdown99

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

no, it seems you don't know what's going on. it has been proven time and again that immigrants and refugees actually create a boon to the economy, which means more money for government services and aid, which in turn gives them more money to help the people here. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

no, it seems you don't know what's going on. it has been proven time and again that immigrants and refugees actually create a boon to the economy, which means more money for government services and aid, which in turn gives them more money to help the people here. 

So if we spend 33000 on 3 kids to educate a year ... how is that a net benefit?  

HughFreakingDillon

Meltdown99 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

no, it seems you don't know what's going on. it has been proven time and again that immigrants and refugees actually create a boon to the economy, which means more money for government services and aid, which in turn gives them more money to help the people here. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

no, it seems you don't know what's going on. it has been proven time and again that immigrants and refugees actually create a boon to the economy, which means more money for government services and aid, which in turn gives them more money to help the people here. 

So if we spend 33000 on 3 kids to educate a year ... how is that a net benefit?  

look at the links I provided earlier. 

PJ_Soul

Someone I'm ignoring doesn't understand what a long game is, haha.

HughFreakingDillon

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

rgambs said:

Meltdown99 said:

dignin said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

You fail to see it because you fail to do the research to come up with an educated answer. Throughout every thread related to immigration the info has been been provided.

I fully know what's going on ... our government hand out millions upon ,millions to non taxpayers/non Canadians while veterans am\nd homeless people continue to struggle...YOU FAIL TO SEE HOW FUCKED UP OUR GOVERNMENT IS...you want fucking immigrants, first prioritize Canadian problems and fix them first...

RPut yourself in the mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished and dangerous place who risks their life to make it to a wonderful place you hear about every day where everyone eats and drives and is safe.  A glorious place of freedom where everyone has a chance to make their childrens' lives better...
Now read your posts (and this one ^^ in particular) back to yourself and try to see how bitter, petty, and small you sound.

Yes, it also took sacrifices of many generations to get Canada to the point to where it is.  Including many who fought in world wars to get to where we are. "Mindframe of someone from an extremely impoverished", this describes many First Nation reserves ... how is that fair?  The European conquerers continue to keep them impoverished while they continue to bring in aasylum seekers who are treated better than our First Nations.  Our First Nations people should start claiming asylum.

Again, more narrow minded, uninformed opinion. It shows how you don't really understand the very intricate First Nations issue either (which is a very real issue, but that you think it would somehow be improved by zero tolerance immigration reform, or that First Nations would fucking want to claim asylum somehow, proves that you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to solutions or the most complex parts of the issue). Dude, you're just fucking mad, and I think you have let that really work against you. You've rendered yourself incapable of thinking about these issues in a rational and complex way.

I enjoy being lectured by such open minded descendants of immigrants who live on stolen land and dictate European bullshit laws to our First Nations.  I know I am living on stolen land and I want to absolutely to see the government make right ... by the way First Nations people are not expecting us to leave, they are expecting us to treat them as good as immigrants if not better.  Thats nots too much too ask.  I would say you as a descendent of European immigrants have a narrow view ... 

Again, you're just making no sense. Why you keep changing the subject like this is totally beyond me, but it makes it literally impossible to discuss the current immigration issue with you. So I guess I'm just going to ignore you completely in this thread now. You're either unwilling or unable to consider the topic at hand rationally.

Address the issue .... First Nation are essentially second class citizens to some European descendants...

the issue is current immigration. 

dignin

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Ledbetterman10

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

HughFreakingDillon

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

we were just having a conversation. many times people request links/research to back up someone's claim. what he did was no different. 

rgambs

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

You could take it a step further and think about why you take it with a grain of salt when it's vetted info from sourced material and why you jump to agree with someone's unvetted or sourced (and grumpy as shit lol) opinion.
Confirmation bias is more deeply rooted in the human psychology than many people realize and most people need to actively work to avoid it.

Ledbetterman10

rgambs said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

You could take it a step further and think about why you take it with a grain of salt when it's vetted info from sourced material and why you jump to agree with someone's unvetted or sourced (and grumpy as shit lol) opinion.
Confirmation bias is more deeply rooted in the human psychology than many people realize and most people need to actively work to avoid it.

I already took a step farther two pages ago when I responded to PJ_Soul with this post where I basically admit a confirmation bias on this topic. Here's a copy and paste.....

"That's fair enough. After all, he didn't exactly have anything to back up his numbers. And yet, when HughFreakinDillion linked to a study that seems to be from credible source, I took THAT with a grain of salt. Why? Well I hate to admit it, but maybe I'm looking to be convinced that someone like Meltdown is right about immigration. I guess I'm just on the conservative side of the fence on this immigration thing."

dignin

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

I apologize for being pretty harsh. No need for it.

Ledbetterman10

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

I apologize for being pretty harsh. No need for it.

No big deal. 

mrussel1

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

I apologize for being pretty harsh. No need for it.

No big deal. 

Often Reading posted this on the Trump thread, you may have missed it.  It was before page 666.

Trump administration officials, under pressure from the White House to provide a rationale for reducing the number of refugees allowed into the United States next year, rejected a study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/refugees-revenue-cost-report-trump.html

Halifax2TheMax

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

I apologize for being pretty harsh. No need for it.

No big deal. 

Often Reading posted this on the Trump thread, you may have missed it.  It was before page 666.

Trump administration officials, under pressure from the White House to provide a rationale for reducing the number of refugees allowed into the United States next year, rejected a study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/refugees-revenue-cost-report-trump.html

Facts have no place in delusions of grandeur.

RoleModelsinBlood31

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

dignin said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

I apologize for being pretty harsh. No need for it.

No big deal. 

Often Reading posted this on the Trump thread, you may have missed it.  It was before page 666.

Trump administration officials, under pressure from the White House to provide a rationale for reducing the number of refugees allowed into the United States next year, rejected a study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/refugees-revenue-cost-report-trump.html

Facts have no place in delusions of grandeur.

It goes both ways though. Several articles available for your reading pleasure that say those findings aren’t entirely legit.

https://cis.org/Report/Costs-Immigration

doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that immigration costs country’s and therefore taxpayers a lot of money.  Whether or not it’s offset by an ESTIMATE of whether they’ll end up making the country or municipality money in the long run is up for debate. Left says yes, right says maybe not.

PJ_Soul

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Toronto faces having to close community centres, cancel programs to house migrant tide from U.S.

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/toronto-faces-having-to-close-community-centres-cancel-programs-to-house-migrant-tide-from-u-s?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1530021674

Nah there no price to pay for illegal migrants...

There always will be, but in the end the benefit outweighs it, if it's done right. why are they jamming all of these people in one of the most densely populated cities in canada?

What's the benefit? I'm asking this seriously because I really don't know the answer.

economically. 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance but again, I'm not following you. How do asylum seekers and refugees help the economy?

And I made a point here to say "asylum seekers and refugees" because that's what the article says. Meltdown99, who posted the article, referred to it as illegal immigration, which is different.

I fail to see how they help the economy?  The Ontario government spends around 11000 per child to educate, Many of the asylum seeker have more than 3 kids ... 3 kids alone is $33000/ year in services ... these asylum seekers will never pay that amount of tax, not the mention the extra strain on our government run health care.

Yeah this was the answer I kinda looking for. I think it's a stress on the American (or in this case, Canadian) government to provide for these asylum seekers. It doesn't seem like it helps the economy like HFD has suggested it does.

Wait? Instead of doing a little research to find some facts you settle for "the answer I kinda looking for", from a guy providing an uniformed opinion? 

Yikes.

Well you're not exactly adding much here are you? At least he provided something and left it up to me to give a shit or not to follow-up. And then HughFreakinDillion linked to a study about it that was a good enough follow-up for me.

Yikes.

The point is stop being lazy. I've posted articles related to the benefits of immigration in this forum dozens of time of the years as have others. I searched out the info myself because I didn't need it spoon fed to me.

Hey I said I read the article that HFD posted, thought it was interesting, but took it with a grain of salt.

I apologize for being pretty harsh. No need for it.

No big deal. 

Often Reading posted this on the Trump thread, you may have missed it.  It was before page 666.

Trump administration officials, under pressure from the White House to provide a rationale for reducing the number of refugees allowed into the United States next year, rejected a study by the Department of Health and Human Services that found that refugees brought in $63 billion more in government revenues over the past decade than they cost.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/18/us/politics/refugees-revenue-cost-report-trump.html

Facts have no place in delusions of grandeur.

It goes both ways though. Several articles available for your reading pleasure that say those findings aren’t entirely legit.

https://cis.org/Report/Costs-Immigration

doesnt take a rocket scientist to know that immigration costs country’s and therefore taxpayers a lot of money.  Whether or not it’s offset by an ESTIMATE of whether they’ll end up making the country or municipality money in the long run.

That is from 1994, lol.