14 years and counting...

unsung

Resources have limits and are not necessarily renewable. 

unsung

I am asking H2M to tell me what jobs the caravan people will be doing since I am continually told that they are coming here to work.

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

I am asking H2M to tell me what jobs the caravan people will be doing since I am continually told that they are coming here to work.

Post a link to your 30:1 source first. Don’t act like the smartest guy in the room because you’re not. Take responsibility for your education or do you prefer to freeload?

unsung

Listening to a Democrat/leftist lecture about freeloading.  Priceless.

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

Listening to a Democrat/leftist lecture about freeloading.  Priceless.

Wow! You consider 3 sentences a lecture? Oh, the challenges.

unsung

It is painful.  Next will be telling me how America is a democracy or something ridiculous like that.

Halifax2TheMax

unsung said:

It is painful.  Next will be telling me how America is a democracy or something ridiculous like that.

Don’t you have a bunker to fortify? You know, for the invasion?

my2hands

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

Would you allow undocumented immigrants access to healthcare and educational systems?

Shit, they can get a drivers license here 

No, you can't access our health care system without a health services card, and you can't enter a school without being documented either. And they certainly can't get a driver's license. You need official documentation to do stuff in Canada (that does include people in the process of applying for some level of legal status though). I don't know why Americans don't understand that people come to America because the US system makes it so much easier for them to do such things without being documented at all.

And still there is an etimated 50,000 to 200,000 undocumented immigrants in Canada, because, of course, some people hire them and pay them under the table, and it's not that hard to find landlord willing to rent to people without credit checks and shit.

And we get a bad name for how we treat undocumented immigrants? lol 

So if a family has a 10 year old child that chikd will not be able to go to school or access healthcare? 

Hillary got ROASTED in the 2008 primaries for hesitating whether she would support drivers licenses for undocumented workers... its become pretty obvious we are far more liberal and tolerant towards immigration than a lot of our western allies that like to do a lot of American shaming. Interesting.

mace1229

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

my2hands said:

The only numbers I find about Hispanics in Canada is that only 1.5% of Canada is Latin American. No wonder they don't want to go there lol

Your food scene must be horrible... 1.5% lol

It's also considerably colder than where they are from.  Now, I live in farm country and greenhouse country, we have plenty of Mexican migrant workers.  The Mexican government even has an office in the area.

Hispanics just spent the last month painting the outside of my apartment building. They did a good job.

FYI my2hands, that stat of yours doesn't include the many Latin Americans who come here to work. Only the permanent residents and citizens. 

But it is true, our Latin American food scene isn't great in terms of numbers ... Although what we have tends to be amazing. Of course, our Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Middle Eastern food scene is huge and to die for.

Oh, and also, Canada has way smarter administrative systems when it comes to education and health care than America does, which is why illegal immigrants don't come flooding in. The way it's set up, you can't really access the health care system and education system when you're an illegal immigrant. I hear it's not really like that in the US. No wonder everyone wants to go there.

We are not allowed to ask a student their status. So ever child, legal or illegal, gets free education. Most get 2 free meals during the day too.
That's what I don;t get, why are so many so hard on US, when we do a lot for illegal immigrants? If we stopped offering free education I can promise there would be riots and we'd be called racist for doing what every country already does.

Halifax2TheMax

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

my2hands said:

The only numbers I find about Hispanics in Canada is that only 1.5% of Canada is Latin American. No wonder they don't want to go there lol

Your food scene must be horrible... 1.5% lol

It's also considerably colder than where they are from.  Now, I live in farm country and greenhouse country, we have plenty of Mexican migrant workers.  The Mexican government even has an office in the area.

Hispanics just spent the last month painting the outside of my apartment building. They did a good job.

FYI my2hands, that stat of yours doesn't include the many Latin Americans who come here to work. Only the permanent residents and citizens. 

But it is true, our Latin American food scene isn't great in terms of numbers ... Although what we have tends to be amazing. Of course, our Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Middle Eastern food scene is huge and to die for.

Oh, and also, Canada has way smarter administrative systems when it comes to education and health care than America does, which is why illegal immigrants don't come flooding in. The way it's set up, you can't really access the health care system and education system when you're an illegal immigrant. I hear it's not really like that in the US. No wonder everyone wants to go there.

We are not allowed to ask a student their status. So ever child, legal or illegal, gets free education. Most get 2 free meals during the day too.
That's what I don;t get, why are so many so hard on US, when we do a lot for illegal immigrants? If we stopped offering free education I can promise there would be riots and we'd be called racist for doing what every country already does.

That’s the Christian spirit!

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

Would you allow undocumented immigrants access to healthcare and educational systems?

Shit, they can get a drivers license here 

No, you can't access our health care system without a health services card, and you can't enter a school without being documented either. And they certainly can't get a driver's license. You need official documentation to do stuff in Canada (that does include people in the process of applying for some level of legal status though). I don't know why Americans don't understand that people come to America because the US system makes it so much easier for them to do such things without being documented at all.

And still there is an etimated 50,000 to 200,000 undocumented immigrants in Canada, because, of course, some people hire them and pay them under the table, and it's not that hard to find landlord willing to rent to people without credit checks and shit.

And we get a bad name for how we treat undocumented immigrants? lol 

So if a family has a 10 year old child that chikd will not be able to go to school or access healthcare? 

Hillary got ROASTED in the 2008 primaries for hesitating whether she would support drivers licenses for undocumented workers... its become pretty obvious we are far more liberal and tolerant towards immigration than a lot of our western allies that like to do a lot of American shaming. Interesting.

No, they will be allowed to go to school or access health care because their parents will be forced to enter the system one way or another. Also, it's not an anti-immigration tactic. It's simply a good administrative method for Canadians that doesn't happen to serve undocumented immigrants.

I'm not too sure what your attitude is about lately, but suggesting that such a system is "treating undocumented immigrants badly" seems pretty off to me. I would say that people say that about America because they are treated like sub-humans by many Americans, and are subjected to amazing levels of racism and bigotry and anger, and the way the government acts when they do start proceedings against them, and the means they use to find them, is inhumane.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

my2hands said:

The only numbers I find about Hispanics in Canada is that only 1.5% of Canada is Latin American. No wonder they don't want to go there lol

Your food scene must be horrible... 1.5% lol

It's also considerably colder than where they are from.  Now, I live in farm country and greenhouse country, we have plenty of Mexican migrant workers.  The Mexican government even has an office in the area.

Hispanics just spent the last month painting the outside of my apartment building. They did a good job.

FYI my2hands, that stat of yours doesn't include the many Latin Americans who come here to work. Only the permanent residents and citizens. 

But it is true, our Latin American food scene isn't great in terms of numbers ... Although what we have tends to be amazing. Of course, our Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Middle Eastern food scene is huge and to die for.

Oh, and also, Canada has way smarter administrative systems when it comes to education and health care than America does, which is why illegal immigrants don't come flooding in. The way it's set up, you can't really access the health care system and education system when you're an illegal immigrant. I hear it's not really like that in the US. No wonder everyone wants to go there.

We are not allowed to ask a student their status. So ever child, legal or illegal, gets free education. Most get 2 free meals during the day too.
That's what I don;t get, why are so many so hard on US, when we do a lot for illegal immigrants? If we stopped offering free education I can promise there would be riots and we'd be called racist for doing what every country already does.

That’s the Christian spirit!

Can you clarify what you meant? I just pointed out we already do a lot, what other countries require free education for illegals? And yet we are criticized for not doing more.
Whats Christian/unchristian about pointing that out?

HughFreakingDillon

mace1229 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

my2hands said:

The only numbers I find about Hispanics in Canada is that only 1.5% of Canada is Latin American. No wonder they don't want to go there lol

Your food scene must be horrible... 1.5% lol

It's also considerably colder than where they are from.  Now, I live in farm country and greenhouse country, we have plenty of Mexican migrant workers.  The Mexican government even has an office in the area.

Hispanics just spent the last month painting the outside of my apartment building. They did a good job.

FYI my2hands, that stat of yours doesn't include the many Latin Americans who come here to work. Only the permanent residents and citizens. 

But it is true, our Latin American food scene isn't great in terms of numbers ... Although what we have tends to be amazing. Of course, our Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Middle Eastern food scene is huge and to die for.

Oh, and also, Canada has way smarter administrative systems when it comes to education and health care than America does, which is why illegal immigrants don't come flooding in. The way it's set up, you can't really access the health care system and education system when you're an illegal immigrant. I hear it's not really like that in the US. No wonder everyone wants to go there.

We are not allowed to ask a student their status. So ever child, legal or illegal, gets free education. Most get 2 free meals during the day too.
That's what I don;t get, why are so many so hard on US, when we do a lot for illegal immigrants? If we stopped offering free education I can promise there would be riots and we'd be called racist for doing what every country already does.

That’s the Christian spirit!

Can you clarify what you meant? I just pointed out we already do a lot, what other countries require free education for illegals? And yet we are criticized for not doing more.
Whats Christian/unchristian about pointing that out?

let me know when canada start putting kids in cages and deports the parents so they might never see each other again.  

Halifax2TheMax

OMG! Free education? And two free meals a day too? How will the US, the greatest country in the world, ever go on? Absorb another 5,000 to 10,000? OMG! putin on the ritz is paying for it so he can collapse our civilization. Thats what it sounds like to me. We cant afford anymore charity and since no one else does it, why do we? 'Murica. For 'muricans. The supposed "christian" nation doesn't act too "christian" when addressing the less fortunate, regardless of where they come from.

PJ_Soul

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

my2hands said:

The only numbers I find about Hispanics in Canada is that only 1.5% of Canada is Latin American. No wonder they don't want to go there lol

Your food scene must be horrible... 1.5% lol

It's also considerably colder than where they are from.  Now, I live in farm country and greenhouse country, we have plenty of Mexican migrant workers.  The Mexican government even has an office in the area.

Hispanics just spent the last month painting the outside of my apartment building. They did a good job.

FYI my2hands, that stat of yours doesn't include the many Latin Americans who come here to work. Only the permanent residents and citizens. 

But it is true, our Latin American food scene isn't great in terms of numbers ... Although what we have tends to be amazing. Of course, our Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Indian, and Middle Eastern food scene is huge and to die for.

Oh, and also, Canada has way smarter administrative systems when it comes to education and health care than America does, which is why illegal immigrants don't come flooding in. The way it's set up, you can't really access the health care system and education system when you're an illegal immigrant. I hear it's not really like that in the US. No wonder everyone wants to go there.

We are not allowed to ask a student their status. So ever child, legal or illegal, gets free education. Most get 2 free meals during the day too.
That's what I don;t get, why are so many so hard on US, when we do a lot for illegal immigrants? If we stopped offering free education I can promise there would be riots and we'd be called racist for doing what every country already does.

And still the current government is riling up all the racists and acting like it's the immigrants' faults, when in fact the very government who is acting like they are all criminals set up the rules that make it easier for illegal immigrants to live there. It's like feeding someone and then beating them for eating.

The Juggler

"Operation Faithful Patriot." Ha....it's set to begin right before the election.... and end a couple weeks after. Caravan is set to get here in a month or so right?

Stop falling for the president's divisive politics, people. 

The Juggler

Perhaps one of the two, maybe three, actual real journalists on the ENITRE NETWORK

  

my2hands

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

Would you allow undocumented immigrants access to healthcare and educational systems?

Shit, they can get a drivers license here 

No, you can't access our health care system without a health services card, and you can't enter a school without being documented either. And they certainly can't get a driver's license. You need official documentation to do stuff in Canada (that does include people in the process of applying for some level of legal status though). I don't know why Americans don't understand that people come to America because the US system makes it so much easier for them to do such things without being documented at all.

And still there is an etimated 50,000 to 200,000 undocumented immigrants in Canada, because, of course, some people hire them and pay them under the table, and it's not that hard to find landlord willing to rent to people without credit checks and shit.

And we get a bad name for how we treat undocumented immigrants? lol 

So if a family has a 10 year old child that chikd will not be able to go to school or access healthcare? 

Hillary got ROASTED in the 2008 primaries for hesitating whether she would support drivers licenses for undocumented workers... its become pretty obvious we are far more liberal and tolerant towards immigration than a lot of our western allies that like to do a lot of American shaming. Interesting.

 I would say that people say that about America because they are treated like sub-humans by many Americans, and are subjected to amazing levels of racism and bigotry and anger, and the way the government acts when they do start proceedings against them, and the means they use to find them, is inhumane. 

Stereotype much? Much of what you said right there is hyperbolic bullshit

If its so evil and bad here, why do they keep coming here? 

I live in a fairly populated county, with a diverse population, been here for 40 years and have seen an influx of hispanic immigrants, and ive never really seen anything close to what you are claiming. Are there issues, obviously, but to hear you tell it we have concentration camps set up. At least we lets kids go to school and go to the hospital lol

My county is approximately 58% white, 26% black, and 10% hispanic... and we seem to be doing just fine.... 

Pretty sure California has maybe 35% white population... 8th largest economy? Progressive controlled... 

Considering humans have  feared and not trusted those that dont look the same i think my country is doing pretty fucking good considering our diversity on such a large scale. Work still needs to be done, but the picture you paint just isnt accurate.  

PJ_Soul

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

PJ_Soul said:

my2hands said:

Would you allow undocumented immigrants access to healthcare and educational systems?

Shit, they can get a drivers license here 

No, you can't access our health care system without a health services card, and you can't enter a school without being documented either. And they certainly can't get a driver's license. You need official documentation to do stuff in Canada (that does include people in the process of applying for some level of legal status though). I don't know why Americans don't understand that people come to America because the US system makes it so much easier for them to do such things without being documented at all.

And still there is an etimated 50,000 to 200,000 undocumented immigrants in Canada, because, of course, some people hire them and pay them under the table, and it's not that hard to find landlord willing to rent to people without credit checks and shit.

And we get a bad name for how we treat undocumented immigrants? lol 

So if a family has a 10 year old child that chikd will not be able to go to school or access healthcare? 

Hillary got ROASTED in the 2008 primaries for hesitating whether she would support drivers licenses for undocumented workers... its become pretty obvious we are far more liberal and tolerant towards immigration than a lot of our western allies that like to do a lot of American shaming. Interesting.

 I would say that people say that about America because they are treated like sub-humans by many Americans, and are subjected to amazing levels of racism and bigotry and anger, and the way the government acts when they do start proceedings against them, and the means they use to find them, is inhumane. 

Stereotype much? Much of what you said right there is hyperbolic bullshit

If its so evil and bad here, why do they keep coming here? 

I live in a fairly populated county, with a diverse population, been here for 40 years and have seen an influx of hispanic immigrants, and ive never really seen anything close to what you are claiming. Are there issues, obviously, but to hear you tell it we have concentration camps set up. At least we lets kids go to school and go to the hospital lol

My county is approximately 58% white, 26% black, and 10% hispanic... and we seem to be doing just fine.... 

Pretty sure California has maybe 35% white population... 8th largest economy? Progressive controlled... 

Considering humans have  feared and not trusted those that dont look the same i think my country is doing pretty fucking good considering our diversity on such a large scale. Work still needs to be done, but the picture you paint just isnt accurate.  

Are you denying that racism and inhumane treatment of migrants exists in America or what?? I'm not stereotyping. I didn't even mention a specific group, so how could I be? Surely you're aware of the terrible rhetoric being used against these migrants and other illegal immigrants by some people in the US, and by the current administration. And I know you're aware of the kids in cages, the ICE community raids, and the shady tactics used to arrest people for deportation. That is all the stuff I'm talking about. If you thought I meant every single American in the US is doing this or something, then I don't even know what to say.

And sorry, no, America doesn't seem to be "doing just fine." It is scary you think that, frankly. You seem to be in defensive mode here, turning what everyone says into black and white.

And dude, wow, you are fucking rough on here with everyone. Frankly, you seem like one of the angriest on the boards. It's a side of you that I've never seen before, and suddenly you are here with guns blazing. It's hard to know how to deal with it, lol.

mace1229

Halifax2TheMax said:

OMG! Free education? And two free meals a day too? How will the US, the greatest country in the world, ever go on? Absorb another 5,000 to 10,000? OMG! putin on the ritz is paying for it so he can collapse our civilization. Thats what it sounds like to me. We cant afford anymore charity and since no one else does it, why do we? 'Murica. For 'muricans. The supposed "christian" nation doesn't act too "christian" when addressing the less fortunate, regardless of where they come from.

I never said any of that. I asked a simple question. HFD had a good response. I don't see where you addressed my question at all or where you got any of those comments from though. No one has said any of that on here.