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  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    I dunno, I like interplay. It's always kind of cool to be able to watch some teams you normally aren't really exposed to.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    tcaporale wrote:
    I dunno, I like interplay. It's always kind of cool to be able to watch some teams you normally aren't really exposed to.
    Yeah, it's fun, but mostly meaningless. I don't think it would be that bad of a trade off to have two balanced leagues. Either that or MLB expands or contracts by two teams to give each league an even number. Then I think we could keep inter-league play and not still be in it come September. But I don't think that is a very good idea either. I think 30 is a good number.
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    moving off topic, found this pretty interesting piece on the hardball times about the processing and handling fees teams charge when ordering online. Amazingly, only the Mets have a third fee.

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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Couple thoughts on the realignment talk...

    A) Move the Astros to the Al West: Great, make us even a worse division. Though I do agree it would be nice to have the same amount of teams in each division.

    B) Maybe it is time to call an end to inter-league play. Maybe it has run it's course. I really wouldn't miss it much.

    C) I wouldn't like a two division-less leagues, with each league's teams vying for five playoff spots. I know it used to be that way, but I wasn't alive then.

    b--i agree. interleague play is stupid at this point. it makes the schedule even more unbalanced and unfair. the phillies shouldn't only have one trip to dodger stadium each year. that just doesn't sound right. i could care less about seeing the rangers and a's like we've got coming in this year. and somehow bud selig has determined that the phillies and blue jays are natural rivals. how could that possibly be? :? :?

    c--yeah this idea does not sound good to me either. before they had divisions they just had the world series. they didn't have playoffs or championship series back then. you won the the league, you went to the world series. that's it. making it so tough to make the post season meant the regular season meant the most in baseball than the other sports. that was cool.....now? not. i'd like to see them go back to the way it was before 1994.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,531
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Couple thoughts on the realignment talk...

    A) Move the Astros to the Al West: Great, make us even a worse division. Though I do agree it would be nice to have the same amount of teams in each division.

    B) Maybe it is time to call an end to inter-league play. Maybe it has run it's course. I really wouldn't miss it much.

    C) I wouldn't like a two division-less leagues, with each league's teams vying for five playoff spots. I know it used to be that way, but I wasn't alive then.

    A - Need an even number of teams in each league, otherwise you'll always have interleague games occurring.

    B - Couldn't agree more.

    C - I LOVE the idea of eliminating divisions. It's the best way to allow mid- and small-market clubs to compete without introducing salary cap restrictions. 6 playoff teams in each league, top 2 get a bye, best-of-3 first round with all 3 games hosted by the superior record. If the Blue Jays and Rays were in the AL Central/West or NL Central/West this year, they would legitimately be contenders for the division.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Interleague is ridiculously unfair the way it's run right now. This year the Brewers play the Yanks, Sox, Rays, and Twins twice, while the Cards get the Royals twice, Jays, Orioles, and Rays. Are you effing kidding me? Doesn't matter though the crew's just gotta fuck good teams up like we've been doing.
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Liriano, perfect through 6 vs the Rangers ... lookin' nasty
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Go back to two divisions in each league. Two division winners and two wild cards in each league make playoffs. that way the shitty central teams aren't guaranteed a playoff spot every year.

    Also, a bye in baseball playoffs is an awful idea.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    The Fixer wrote:
    Go back to two divisions in each league. Two division winners and two wild cards in each league make playoffs. that way the shitty central teams aren't guaranteed a playoff spot every year.

    Also, a bye in baseball playoffs is an awful idea.

    yup. and move the brewers back to the al and get rid of interleague.

    bang. done.


    edit-- oh and get rid of the dh :thumbup: :clap:
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  • RW81233
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    No DH is the only way I'd be pleased with a Brewers move back. It's not fair to send a decent, first-place, NL team to go try and play beer league softball without having their roster built for it. Especially with the Big Veg gone next year. It was kinda funny looking at him and Pujols on first base today and thinking that in that little space two men will split approximately 1/2 a billion dollars.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,531
    I agree with Keith Law...DH in both leagues and expand to two more cities. The sport is healthy and far better off with 16 teams in each league vs. 15.
  • FenwayFaithful
    FenwayFaithful Posts: 8,626
    Tommy Hanson is a beast.

    Personally I love interleague play.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    pjl44 wrote:
    I agree with Keith Law...DH in both leagues and expand to two more cities. The sport is healthy and far better off with 16 teams in each league vs. 15.

    why does he say that--just because there's no way the players union will agree to get rid of it? the dh isn't good for the game at all. i wish they would just get rid of it all together.

    unfathomable to me that one league has had such a distinct advantage over the other for over 4 decades now.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,531
    The Juggler wrote:
    pjl44 wrote:
    I agree with Keith Law...DH in both leagues and expand to two more cities. The sport is healthy and far better off with 16 teams in each league vs. 15.

    why does he say that--just because there's no way the players union will agree to get rid of it? the dh isn't good for the game at all. i wish they would just get rid of it all together.

    unfathomable to me that one league has had such a distinct advantage over the other for over 4 decades now.

    His point (which I agree with) is that it makes for better baseball. Pitchers can't hit and they become a black hole at the bottom of the order. When managers have to manage around it as it gets into later innings, you're not focusing on what someone can do, but what they can't. It isn't "strategy," but instead a forced situation.

    With a couple rare exceptions, pitchers will never be league-average hitters. The entirety of their development is to make them as effective and durable as their skills will allow.

    As a fan, I far prefer the AL style of play for that reason. It also allows aging stars to extend their careers, which is also good for the game.

    Oh...and I agree completely on your last point. It has put the NL at a severe disadvantage; would love to see them adopt the DH.
  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    Can't get rid of the DH at this point. The AL teams are basically built for it; for instance, if there's no DH, David Ortiz has nowhere to go for the Red Sox, and he's one of their best hitters. There would be far too much outcry. I don't really find much wrong at all with the way the divisions and Wild Card spots are done now except for the fact that the AL West has four teams and the NL Central six. And good teams fluctuate with time; the White Sox won a title not very long ago, so who's to say the AL Central can't become a good division?
  • letsongsprotest
    letsongsprotest Novi, MI Posts: 552
    tcaporale wrote:
    Can't get rid of the DH at this point. The AL teams are basically built for it; for instance, if there's no DH, David Ortiz has nowhere to go for the Red Sox, and he's one of their best hitters. There would be far too much outcry. I don't really find much wrong at all with the way the divisions and Wild Card spots are done now except for the fact that the AL West has four teams and the NL Central six. And good teams fluctuate with time; the White Sox won a title not very long ago, so who's to say the AL Central can't become a good division?

    Totally agree with all points.

    ........as well as the White Sox winning it in 05, the Tigers got to the World Series in 06. And if memory serves me, Cleveland was in the ALCS in 07 with a 3-1 series lead over Boston until they tanked it.
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  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    FenwayFaithful wrote:
    Tommy Hanson is a beast.

    Personally I love interleague play.

    I'm with you on that. I think the best way is to reduce the amount of divisional games to where they were before the 2001 season that way for example the White Sox or Tigers would make two trips in to face the Yankees and so on.
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  • The Fixer
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    I prefer the NL style of play, but I kinda like the fact that the two leagues are different with the DH. I think it's cool to see the contrast in styles come world series time.

    that said I'd be fine with the NL adopting the DH. then I wouldn't have to watch ryan howard's seal hands in the field :thumbup:. or see charlie manuel try to strategize during games

    I'm indifferent about interleague play. don't really care either way.
  • RW81233
    RW81233 Posts: 2,393
    Brewers pitchers hit, pretty sure Phils do too. AL isn't even really baseball its beer league softball.
  • tcaporale
    tcaporale Posts: 1,577
    Oh spare us with the "beer league softball" comments.

    Lazy criticism at its finest.

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