MLB 2025 Season

F Me In The Brain

He can impose whatever he wants.
Guess they'll have all of those minor Leaguers they fired to line up and play ball as scabs.

tempo_n_groove

F Me In The Brain said:

He can impose whatever he wants.
Guess they'll have all of those minor Leaguers they fired to line up and play ball as scabs.

Time to start working out the ol' soup bone again!

cutz

Baseball has more important things to deal with right now?

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1977021

Federal judge orders letter unsealed that could link Yankees to sign-stealing

Jason Wilson

4h ago

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A federal judge has given the New York Yankees until noon on Monday, June 15 to unseal a 2017 letter from Major League Baseball that may link the team to sign-stealing, according to Evan Drellich of The Athletic.

The Yankees argued that making the contents of the letter public would result in "significant reputational injury," judge Jed Rakoff said Friday in his order stemming from a lawsuit that fantasy sports contestants filed against the team and the league. The lawsuit was dismissed in April.

"There is no justification for public disclosure of the letter," said Yankees lawyer Jonathan Schiller. "The plaintiff has no case anymore, and the court held that what MLB wrote in confidence was irrelevant to the court’s dismissal of the plaintiff’s case. Under established law, this supports the Yankees’ right to confidentiality required by the commissioner of Baseball."

MLB investigated the Yankees in 2017, and a press release states the club was, at worst, guilty of minor infractions. The lawsuit argues the sealed letter proved otherwise.

"Plaintiffs alleged that the 2017 press release falsely suggested that the investigation found that the Yankees had only engaged in a minor technical infraction, whereas, according to plaintiffs, the investigation had in fact found that the Yankees engaged in a more serious, sign-stealing scheme," Rakoff wrote Friday.

The investigation revealed the Boston Red Sox used an Apple Watch to relay signs, but it also indicated the Yankees were involved in schemes too, though specifics weren't detailed. The letter may shed light on the Yankees' specific behavior at the time.

Schiller maintains there's no basis for the letter, which is a confidential document, to be made public. MLB is arguing that making the disciplinary findings public could undermine its ability to conduct further internal investigations.

It's the latest chapter in MLB's sign-stealing saga. Following the investigation into the 2017 Astros, general manager Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch were both fired and suspended for one year. Red Sox manager - and former Astros bench coach - Alex Cora was let go due to his involvement in the scandal. The New York Mets also parted ways with new skipper Carlos Beltran, who played for the Astros in 2017, before he managed a single game.

Current and former Yankees players have been some of the most vocal with their criticisms of the Astros following the league's findings. Retired left-hander CC Sabathia said Houston's conduct made him feel cheated, while Giancarlo Stanton said he would have hit 80 home runs if he knew what pitches were coming.

tempo_n_groove

Should be interesting.

Wobbie

did any of you read the SI article on COVID and the minor leagues?

the minors are in a world of hurt.

F Me In The Brain

Yes they are but I didn't see that article - is there a link to share?

Poncier

F Me In The Brain said:

Yes they are but I didn't see that article - is there a link to share?

Wob would probably have to mail you his hard copy of his magazine that he got a football phone with when he signed up for the subscription.

F Me In The Brain

True!

Wobbie

Poncier said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Yes they are but I didn't see that article - is there a link to share?

Wob would probably have to mail you his hard copy of his magazine that he got a football phone with when he signed up for the subscription.

I think I got Dallas Cowboys Zubaz pants!

https://www.si.com/mlb/2020/05/19/minor-league-baseball-is-in-crisis

F Me In The Brain

Thanks Wobbie I will read it.

The owners are driving the bus off a cliff.

HardballTalk : Players reject MLB offer, ask league to set a 2020 schedule

https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2020/06/14/players-reject-mlb-offer-ask-league-to-set-a-2020-schedule/

xavier mcdaniel

I've gotten a sense many owners don't want to play. this kind of confirms that belief.  https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1272632885397291008

The Juggler

These fucking idiots

Wobbie

xavier mcdaniel said:

I've gotten a sense many owners don't want to play. this kind of confirms that belief.  https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1272632885397291008

wasn’t manfred 100% sure there WOULD be a season, only a couple of days ago?

can’t say I really care....Giants were gonna suck.

The Juggler

I guess this is obvious, but they're going to do long lasting damage to this sport if there is no season this year. 

A bunch of fucking billionaires and millionaires arguing about money when 40 million people lost their jobs is not a good look.

F Me In The Brain

xavier mcdaniel said:

I've gotten a sense many owners don't want to play. this kind of confirms that belief.  https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1272632885397291008

And if Passan reports it, it is exactly the message MLB wants out there.

It is so bad....I don't know that they would have fit a while season in but at least we would have something.

As a Reds fan it sucks even more....expanding the playoff field would give us a deal chance for a change.

The Juggler

F Me In The Brain said:

xavier mcdaniel said:

I've gotten a sense many owners don't want to play. this kind of confirms that belief.  https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1272632885397291008

And if Passan reports it, it is exactly the message MLB wants out there.

It is so bad....I don't know that they would have fit a while season in but at least we would have something.

As a Reds fan it sucks even more....expanding the playoff field would give us a deal chance for a change.

Whoever won the world series in a 50 some game season though, would have to have an enormous asterisk next to that title. 

F Me In The Brain

I would take that.  Haven't celebrated a world series win for my favorite squad since I was in High School and they beat the As.

I was at two out of three games of the last playoff series reds won.  Cool?  Not when you know it was the NLDS in 1995.

MayDay10

Im hoping for no season to be honest, even if it would be terrible for the Indians.

I want to see the economic system for professional baseball burned down to the studs and re-built.  It is the worst of the 4 major sports and is not sustainable.  

Might as well use this pandemic, already lost half or more of the season, and make it 'the big one' to break the Union, much like the NHL in 2005.  

F Me In The Brain

MayDay10 said:

Im hoping for no season to be honest, even if it would be terrible for the Indians.

I want to see the economic system for professional baseball burned down to the studs and re-built.  It is the worst of the 4 major sports and is not sustainable.  

Might as well use this pandemic, already lost half or more of the season, and make it 'the big one' to break the Union, much like the NHL in 2005.  

Don't you think the problem with this is that the NHL teams were in trouble in general and MLB has never made more money than it did last year?

I'm all for your idea if the end result is lower pricing to fans in comparable fashion

We know that is unlikely, though.

Don't agree with the players being the boogie man in all of this 
Should they get such huge salaries?
Sure, if TV contracts and team revenues are what they are.

MayDay10

F Me In The Brain said:

MayDay10 said:

Im hoping for no season to be honest, even if it would be terrible for the Indians.

I want to see the economic system for professional baseball burned down to the studs and re-built.  It is the worst of the 4 major sports and is not sustainable.  

Might as well use this pandemic, already lost half or more of the season, and make it 'the big one' to break the Union, much like the NHL in 2005.  

Don't you think the problem with this is that the NHL teams were in trouble in general and MLB has never made more money than it did last year?

I'm all for your idea if the end result is lower pricing to fans in comparable fashion

We know that is unlikely, though.

Don't agree with the players being the boogie man in all of this 
Should they get such huge salaries?
Sure, if TV contracts and team revenues are what they are.

The things that have hurt professional baseball is both the large markets and the MLBPA.  Both have selfishly pushed the status quo for too long, and that dope Manfred (ironically now) was a product of that.

With these leagues, I am a big fan of the socialized approach where revenue is shared, and the Players' Association negotiates a % of the total revenues (then all the smaller things fall in line like FA age, and other machinations). 

Players should get a % of the revenue.  Like it is now, it is off kilter.  You are getting this class of players where the top tier is way too out of whack/extreme (like contracts approaching a half-billion).  A team like my Indians can never afford to keep their own best players and it sucks as a fan and drains interest.  A large part of baseball is the nostalgia and the iconic players who are identified with teams.  

And the stunt with vaporizing much of MiLB is also counter-productive and will help snuff out baseball in a generation.  I always say that in 50 years, at this trajectory, baseball will have gone the way of Boxing and Horse Racing.