MLB 2025 Season

The Juggler

F Me In The Brain said:

Joe Buck is hilarious 

Looks like owners are starting to come around....

Buck was a condescending douche for years.

He's so much better now than before, in part, because he's not as uptight as he used to be. That whole hair plug thing really kind of changed him for the better. 

F Me In The Brain

The Juggler said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Joe Buck is hilarious 

Looks like owners are starting to come around....

Buck was a condescending douche for years.

He's so much better now than before, in part, because he's not as uptight as he used to be. That whole hair plug thing really kind of changed him for the better. 

Seeing him outside of his announcing job and how funny he can be changed my opinion of him.
He may still be a douche, but he a really funny one.

F Me In The Brain

How much fun do you think he and Aikman get into?
Aikman on Sunday mornings look like he was out partying like he was 24.

Cliffy6745

The Juggler said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Joe Buck is hilarious 

Looks like owners are starting to come around....

Buck was a condescending douche for years.

He's so much better now than before, in part, because he's not as uptight as he used to be. That whole hair plug thing really kind of changed him for the better. 

Was super uptight.  Realized he didn't need to be his dad and got better.  Plus, yeah, plugs gave him more confidence it seems lol

Cliffy6745

Here's my thing with all of this. I think they are going to play baseball. There is too much money to lose for everyone.  I think that no one will remember this when all is said and done, which is why I haven't gotten all worked up over it.  It's just a product of the 24 hour news cycle.

Wobbie

pjhawks said:

saw a story on Twitter that Mookie Betts becomes a free agent after this year even if there is no season. so he may never play a game for the Dodgers.  If that is true kind of funny.

love it!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1270085769856610306

Wobbie

well, fuck.

in essence, a 4 second video with "thanks for watching" at the end.

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

That Boras wanted to pay his people when baseball won't?  Yeah, sure, I think that is admirable.  You seem to be really opposed to people getting paid. 

For what? lol.  We're not talking about some slimy middle of the road agent.  Dude is the owner of one of the top few most powerful sports agencies in the world and probably one of the 5 most powerful people in baseball.  Dude ain't taking some random fall.  

There are really two people I don't get the hate for in sports, Scott Boras and Joe Buck (since he has grown into himself)

he's slimy as fuck. just hasn't had anyone get their screws in him yet.  it will happen eventually and he will go down hard. patience my friend.

and minor league players have been getting screwed for years but now Boras cares about them?  

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

That Boras wanted to pay his people when baseball won't?  Yeah, sure, I think that is admirable.  You seem to be really opposed to people getting paid. 

For what? lol.  We're not talking about some slimy middle of the road agent.  Dude is the owner of one of the top few most powerful sports agencies in the world and probably one of the 5 most powerful people in baseball.  Dude ain't taking some random fall.  

There are really two people I don't get the hate for in sports, Scott Boras and Joe Buck (since he has grown into himself)

he's slimy as fuck. just hasn't had anyone get their screws in him yet.  it will happen eventually and he will go down hard. patience my friend.

and minor league players have been getting screwed for years but now Boras cares about them?  

The dude has one job and he has built one of the biggest agencies on the face of the planet. He’s had people coming for him for 20 years. Pretty sure he’s in the clear.

You sound like a hater. Don’t like sports agents, don’t like players making money...

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

Cliffy6745 said:

That Boras wanted to pay his people when baseball won't?  Yeah, sure, I think that is admirable.  You seem to be really opposed to people getting paid. 

For what? lol.  We're not talking about some slimy middle of the road agent.  Dude is the owner of one of the top few most powerful sports agencies in the world and probably one of the 5 most powerful people in baseball.  Dude ain't taking some random fall.  

There are really two people I don't get the hate for in sports, Scott Boras and Joe Buck (since he has grown into himself)

he's slimy as fuck. just hasn't had anyone get their screws in him yet.  it will happen eventually and he will go down hard. patience my friend.

and minor league players have been getting screwed for years but now Boras cares about them?  

The dude has one job and he has built one of the biggest agencies on the face of the planet. He’s had people coming for him for 20 years. Pretty sure he’s in the clear.

You sound like a hater. Don’t like sports agents, don’t like players making money...

actually in normal times I don't care how much money pro players make. In fact I usually will defend how much pro players make because I understand it comes from the demand that us fans provide (dumbest argument in the world is look at how much athletes make compared to teachers).  that being said I think in the case of a global pandemic, where no fans can attend games, alas shrinking demand, the fact that players will not even consider working with the owners on costs I have a problem with. and a big part of that stance comes from Boras. 

I acknowledge Boras is great for his clients, but he is bad for the game.  As a Yankees fan I get it, you don't give a shit that 28 teams can't afford to have the top stars (or more than 1) on their payroll, but don't tell me that is good for the game.  it's just not in my opinion.

F Me In The Brain

Boo hoo poor owners.  Been taking in the millions every year for how long?

pjhawks

F Me In The Brain said:

Boo hoo poor owners.  Been taking in the millions every year for how long?

revenues will be reportedly down about 40% with no fans, yet the players want their same per game salary. in what business would this be acceptable?

F Me In The Brain

You can turn that around about a number of things relative to players asking questions.
We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.  

Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot.  If people are playing we are paying.

When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance.  That is why we are owners and take that risk.

pjhawks

F Me In The Brain said:

You can turn that around about a number of things relative to players asking questions.
We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.  

Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot.  If people are playing we are paying.

When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance.  That is why we are owners and take that risk.

I think most reasonable people can understand revenues drive pay...well maybe not baseball players.  So for your employees no extra bonuses in big years?  So i get paid the same if company does good or great? So no incentive to be great I guess is what you are saying. 

The Juggler

So.....there's gonna be a season now?

Cliffy6745

pjhawks said:

F Me In The Brain said:

You can turn that around about a number of things relative to players asking questions.
We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.  

Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot.  If people are playing we are paying.

When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance.  That is why we are owners and take that risk.

I think most reasonable people can understand revenues drive pay...well maybe not baseball players.  So for your employees no extra bonuses in big years?  So i get paid the same if company does good or great? So no incentive to be great I guess is what you are saying. 

We don’t really have to go over the difference between a bonus and a salary do we? Baseball players get bonuses when their company does well too 

pjhawks

The Juggler said:

So.....there's gonna be a season now?

Universal DH. Fuck that too

pjhawks

Cliffy6745 said:

pjhawks said:

F Me In The Brain said:

You can turn that around about a number of things relative to players asking questions.
We've had the discussion....I don't believe what the owners are saying.  

Also....my business is down more than 40% as are a lot.  If people are playing we are paying.

When we make more in a normal year we don't pay them more in accordance.  That is why we are owners and take that risk.

I think most reasonable people can understand revenues drive pay...well maybe not baseball players.  So for your employees no extra bonuses in big years?  So i get paid the same if company does good or great? So no incentive to be great I guess is what you are saying. 

We don’t really have to go over the difference between a bonus and a salary do we? Baseball players get bonuses when their company does well too 

Nope but you might want to reread the post that I was replying too. I took it to mean his business doesn’t give extra in good years but maybe I’m misinterpreting.

F Me In The Brain

If you are commission or bonus eligible you get it.  Part of the deal and with bonus specifically, it is a drop in the bucket.
Do well and keep getting your good salary

Don't and get fired.

The majority of people working don't get more if their companies do well.  Don't fool yourself.

People don't own businesses, in general, as charity.  

Cliffy is right - this is about salary and not bonus structure.

tempo_n_groove

Are we doing the degenerate league this year?  Is there a point?