MLB 2025 Season

polaris_x

metsfan wrote:

polaris_x wrote:

do the Nats really think they are that close? ... gonna be a nasty division next year ...

Yes they do and they will win the wild card. They have a great core.

has the word on the second wild card come down yet? ... if it's just one ... they will have to be better than the marlins ... and with all the divisional games - i think it's gonna be tough ...

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

What a fucking horrible trade for Washington. 3 top 10 prospects for Gio. Quite happy the yanks are not getting involved in this nonsense. These starting pitcher trades are insane

I kinda like it for them. That division is much improved

The Fixer

imalive wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

2 years, $26 mil. Not too bad.

fuck....we give huff $22 for 2 but we can't do a little better to keep beltran? :wtf:

how'd that trade work out for you??

how the fuck did sabean win a title?????? so god damn lucky

Indifference71

Cliffy6745 wrote:

What a fucking horrible trade for Washington. 3 top 10 prospects for Gio. Quite happy the yanks are not getting involved in this nonsense. These starting pitcher trades are insane

They did give up a lot, but Gio is a very good pitcher.....only 26 and he's just going to get better pitching in the NL. The White Sox traded him TWICE....fuck me.

Bronx Bombers

Cliffy6745 wrote:

What a fucking horrible trade for Washington. 3 top 10 prospects for Gio. Quite happy the yanks are not getting involved in this nonsense. These starting pitcher trades are insane

Yeah I'm glad we didn't make that trade Washington gave up a ton for Gio.

Cliffy6745

I don't know guys, I think Gio is a bit overrated, certainly not worth 3 top 10 organizational prospects. The guy has walked more batters than any pitcher in baseball over the past two seasons and I havent looked at his home/road splits but I pretty sure pitching half your games in Oakland isn't going to hurt your numbers. Good pitcher, no doubt, not worth that trade value to me though. The Nats are obviously stacked with prospects so they can afford it and Gio is under control for a while, I just don't think he's that great

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I don't know guys, I think Gio is a bit overrated, certainly not worth 3 top 10 organizational prospects. The guy has walked more batters than any pitcher in baseball over the past two seasons and I havent looked at his home/road splits but I pretty sure pitching half your games in Oakland isn't going to hurt your numbers. Good pitcher, no doubt, not worth that trade value to me though. The Nats are obviously stacked with prospects so they can afford it and Gio is under control for a while, I just don't think he's that great

yeah, I don't think the guys the nats gave up are anything special. cole is a top prospect. norris could become a starting catcher (he broke the same hamate bone that ended nomars career...his star has taken a hit since that injury). the other guys are nothing special (I know peacock had a good year last year, but most of what I've read on him projects back of rotation or bullpen).

The nats system wasn't that strong before this trade. Adding gio (like him or not) will give them a chance to compete for a playoff spot, which is something they have never done. I don't love the trade either way, but I can see that nats justification for going this route. If they are set on playing harper in RF I think signing fielder makes a ton of sense for them

Cliffy6745

Logan Morrison is absolutely awesome

http://twitter.com/lomomarlins

Fucking with people telling them Prince is going to Seattle

Just heard from my boy that Prince to Seattle is a done deal.

Then this stuff on Darvish is great

In real @MLB Hot Stove news, Yu Darvish is dating Kim Kardashian...

Just programmed my DVR to record this springs newest hit reality show Darvish does Dallas! #PoorDebbie #NoHomoJustLoMo

Baseball needs more players like him. Hoping he has a big season.

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Logan Morrison is absolutely awesome

http://twitter.com/lomomarlins

Fucking with people telling them Prince is going to Seattle

Just heard from my boy that Prince to Seattle is a done deal.

Then this stuff on Darvish is great

In real @MLB Hot Stove news, Yu Darvish is dating Kim Kardashian...

Just programmed my DVR to record this springs newest hit reality show Darvish does Dallas! #PoorDebbie #NoHomoJustLoMo

Baseball needs more players like him. Hoping he has a big season.

haha, that is funny.

I love morrison's approach...he's always a tough out. pretty much the opposite of everyone in the phils lineup not named utley

Cliffy6745

The Fixer wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I don't know guys, I think Gio is a bit overrated, certainly not worth 3 top 10 organizational prospects. The guy has walked more batters than any pitcher in baseball over the past two seasons and I havent looked at his home/road splits but I pretty sure pitching half your games in Oakland isn't going to hurt your numbers. Good pitcher, no doubt, not worth that trade value to me though. The Nats are obviously stacked with prospects so they can afford it and Gio is under control for a while, I just don't think he's that great

yeah, I don't think the guys the nats gave up are anything special. cole is a top prospect. norris could become a starting catcher (he broke the same hamate bone that ended nomars career...his star has taken a hit since that injury). the other guys are nothing special (I know peacock had a good year last year, but most of what I've read on him projects back of rotation or bullpen).

The nats system wasn't that strong before this trade. Adding gio (like him or not) will give them a chance to compete for a playoff spot, which is something they have never done. I don't love the trade either way, but I can see that nats justification for going this route. If they are set on playing harper in RF I think signing fielder makes a ton of sense for them

I hear what you're saying, I am just not all that sold on Gio. Cole is obviously a big prospect and I know there are a lot of mixed opinions on Peacock. There is only one legit prospect in the trade but the others could certainly contribute and be decent big leaguers and like I said, I am just not that big of a fan of Gio. I hate walks. That said, if he continues to put up big numbers, Strasburg, Zimmerman and Gonzalez is a pretty legit rotation.

I guess my point was that any system with Harper and Rendon, is pretty good in my book.

Cliffy6745

The Fixer wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Logan Morrison is absolutely awesome

http://twitter.com/lomomarlins

Fucking with people telling them Prince is going to Seattle

Just heard from my boy that Prince to Seattle is a done deal.

Then this stuff on Darvish is great

In real @MLB Hot Stove news, Yu Darvish is dating Kim Kardashian...

Just programmed my DVR to record this springs newest hit reality show Darvish does Dallas! #PoorDebbie #NoHomoJustLoMo

Baseball needs more players like him. Hoping he has a big season.

haha, that is funny.

I love morrison's approach...he's always a tough out. pretty much the opposite of everyone in the phils lineup not named utley

Yeah, he definitely needs to work on his OBP but that will come with time, I'm sure.

Cliffy6745

Was going to post this in the yanks thread but figured I would post it here since I find it pretty awesome. For fenways 100th anniversary in April, the yanks will be wearing old school 1912 uniforms. I find this all kinds of awesome. That will be a lot of fun. Two historic teams, playing Americas pastime in a historic stadium in some old school duds is pretty fucking cool in my book

Wobbie

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Was going to post this in the yanks thread but figured I would post it here since I find it pretty awesome. For fenways 100th anniversary in April, the yanks will be wearing old school 1912 uniforms. I find this all kinds of awesome. That will be a lot of fun. Two historic teams, playing Americas pastime in a historic stadium in some old school duds is pretty fucking cool in my book

:yawn:

The Fixer

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Was going to post this in the yanks thread but figured I would post it here since I find it pretty awesome. For fenways 100th anniversary in April, the yanks will be wearing old school 1912 uniforms. I find this all kinds of awesome. That will be a lot of fun. Two historic teams, playing Americas pastime in a historic stadium in some old school duds is pretty fucking cool in my book

fenway blows

Wobbie

from Buster Olney:

TOP ROTATIONS

1. Phillies

2. Rays

3. Angels (with Jerome Williams as the fifth starter!)

4. Giants

5. Diamondbacks

6. Rangers

7. Tigers

8. Nationals

9. Mariners

10 (tie) Braves, Dodgers

TOP BULLPENS

1. Braves

2. Yankees

3. Giants

4. Indians

5. Diamondbacks

6. Brewers

7. Cardinals

8. Nationals

9. Marlins

10. (tie) Rangers, Phillies, Reds

glad to see the best the dod*ers could do is one tie for 10th

DewieCox

imalive wrote:

from Buster Olney:

TOP ROTATIONS

1. Phillies

2. Rays

3. Angels (with Jerome Williams as the fifth starter!)

4. Giants

5. Diamondbacks

6. Rangers

7. Tigers

8. Nationals

9. Mariners

10 (tie) Braves, Dodgers

TOP BULLPENS

1. Braves

2. Yankees

3. Giants

4. Indians

5. Diamondbacks

6. Brewers

7. Cardinals

8. Nationals

9. Marlins

10. (tie) Rangers, Phillies, Reds

glad to see the best the dod*ers could do is one tie for 10th

How can the Cardinals not be one of the top rotations? Carpenter/Wainright/Garcie is a pretty fuckin awesome top half if you ask me

Wobbie

DewieCox wrote:

How can the Cardinals not be one of the top rotations? Carpenter/Wainright/Garcie is a pretty fuckin awesome top half if you ask me

maybe Buster had them at #11 :?

Wobbie

this is hilarious...I knew dunn had an epicly bad season....but since no one gives two shits about the white sox, I didn't know how truly bad it was...

Did Adam Dunn's season really happen -- I mean, in real life? I've seen the numbers, printed on actual paper, so apparently it did. But really, friends, it ought to be impossible to do all this:

• On his road to hitting a mind-rattling .159, this guy had more trips to the plate when he DIDN'T put a ball in play (256) than trips when he did (240).

• He had 52 multi-strikeout games but only 12 multi-hit games. Seriously.

• He got six hits all season -- six -- against left-handed pitchers (in 94 at-bats). Just for comparison's sake, Adrian Gonzalez (who also bats left-handed, last time we looked) got six hits off left-handed pitchers in one SERIES (June 20-22 against the Cubs).

• Other than May, when the Dunner hit a not exactly Ty Cobb-esque .204, he never had a batting average higher than .160 IN ANY MONTH.

• You realize that Dunn went into this season with a higher career slugging percentage (.521) than Gonzalez, Paul Konerko and Troy Tulowitzki (among billions of others), right? You can look that up. He then went out and slugged an incomprehensible .277. That was 50 points worse than Juan Pierre, 63 behind Willie Bloomquist, 69 back of Aaron Miles and 82 lower than Elvis Andrus. You can look that up, too.

• This man had 111 more strikeouts (177) than hits (66). So how many other American Leaguers in history have had 100 more whiffs than hits in a season? That would be nada, obviously.

• And one more thing: If you ignore little technicalities like decimal points, Dunn's batting average (.159) was lower than his strikeout total (177). Other than Mark Reynolds, who pulled that off in 2010, no position player has ever done that in a season where he got more than 40 -- yes, 40 -- plate appearances. And with good reason!

gotta love those guaranteed contracts! :wtf:

The Fixer

imalive wrote:

DewieCox wrote:

How can the Cardinals not be one of the top rotations? Carpenter/Wainright/Garcie is a pretty fuckin awesome top half if you ask me

maybe Buster had them at #11 :?

who are 4 and 5? rotation = 5 starters

Cliffy6745

Who are the phillies 4th and 5th starters?