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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,056
    Remember when everyone thought Arraez might hit .400 this year in June? Well he's at like .350 now and Freeman is like 10 points behind him now :lol:

    Kinda weird that only like 10 players are batting over .300 this year so far.

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    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    eeriepadave said:
    Remember when everyone thought Arraez might hit .400 this year in June? Well he's at like .350 now and Freeman is like 10 points behind him now :lol:

    Kinda weird that only like 10 players are batting over .300 this year so far.

    You're laughing at 350 though?  That's pretty damn good.

    Freeman has been on FIRE.  Betts too.  I still give the MVP to Acuna though.  Dude has 54 SB's?

    As far as the lack of 300 hitters, the players dont care anymore.  They drive in more runs than get on base it's a better payday for them.  Stupid analytics.  Bregman discussed this where he would rather be at 260 and drive in 100 runs than bat 300.  I tried looking for the interview but can't find it.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,056
    tempo_n_groove said:
    eeriepadave said:
    Remember when everyone thought Arraez might hit .400 this year in June? Well he's at like .350 now and Freeman is like 10 points behind him now :lol:

    Kinda weird that only like 10 players are batting over .300 this year so far.

    You're laughing at 350 though?  That's pretty damn good.

    Freeman has been on FIRE.  Betts too.  I still give the MVP to Acuna though.  Dude has 54 SB's?

    As far as the lack of 300 hitters, the players dont care anymore.  They drive in more runs than get on base it's a better payday for them.  Stupid analytics.  Bregman discussed this where he would rather be at 260 and drive in 100 runs than bat 300.  I tried looking for the interview but can't find it.
    I wasn't laughing at his BA per se. Was more laughing at everyone ("baseball experts") who thought he had a shot at .400.

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    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
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    9/2/18- Boston, MA
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    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    No one is gonna hit .400. The pitchers are too good and they throw too many fiery relievers at you these days. Back in 1941 (and it was really hard to hit .400 then) you got to hit off the starter 3, 4 or 5 times and get familiar with him. And you only played 7 different teams. They made a huge deal of Bob Feller supposedly throwing 100 MPH and now like a quarter of the pitchers do that.
    Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; WF Center 10/21/13; WF Center 10/22/13; Baltimore 10/27/13;
    WF Center 4/28/16; WF Center 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
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  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,056
    Last person to come close I think was Tony Gwynn when he hit like .395 about 30 years ago. I do remember George Brett hitting .390 during the '80 season. Did Ichiro ever come close?
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Royce Lewis grand slam in back to back games. That kid is good if he can stay healthy, but he's  got some Buxton health luck.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    eeriepadave said:
    Last person to come close I think was Tony Gwynn when he hit like .395 about 30 years ago. I do remember George Brett hitting .390 during the '80 season. Did Ichiro ever come close?
    Tony Gwynn was amazing. He hit .324 in his final season...at age 41
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Posts: 11,600
    eeriepadave said:
    Last person to come close I think was Tony Gwynn when he hit like .395 about 30 years ago. I do remember George Brett hitting .390 during the '80 season. Did Ichiro ever come close?
    Yeah the '94 strike ruined Gwynn's chances. Although if he was over .400 at the time I guess that would've counted.

    But yeah, forget 1941, pitching has changed drastically since 1994.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    Johnny Abruzzo said:
    No one is gonna hit .400. The pitchers are too good and they throw too many fiery relievers at you these days. Back in 1941 (and it was really hard to hit .400 then) you got to hit off the starter 3, 4 or 5 times and get familiar with him. And you only played 7 different teams. They made a huge deal of Bob Feller supposedly throwing 100 MPH and now like a quarter of the pitchers do that.
    If you go way, way back when guys were routinely hitting .350, gloves were the size of your hand. Can’t really compare eras.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    eeriepadave said:
    Last person to come close I think was Tony Gwynn when he hit like .395 about 30 years ago. I do remember George Brett hitting .390 during the '80 season. Did Ichiro ever come close?
    Lots of people did 370.  Only Gwynn and Brett hit 390 and that is highest since Ted Williams' 406.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave Posts: 42,056
    ah here we go:

    Top 10 Highest Batting Averages Since 1941
    1. Tony Gwynn, San Diego (1994) .394
    2. George Brett, Kansas City (1980) .390
    3. Ted Williams, Boston (1957) .388
      Rod Carew, Minnesota (1977) .388
    5. Larry Walker, Colorado (1999) .379
    6. Stan Musial, St. Louis (1948) .376
    7. Tony Gwynn, San Diego (1997) .372
      Nomar Garciaparra, Boston (2000) .372
      Todd Helton, Colorado (2000) .372
      Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle (2004) .372

    Damn almost forgot about Rod Carew and I did forget about Larry Walker.
    8/28/98- Camden, NJ
    10/31/09- Philly
    5/21/10- NYC
    9/2/12- Philly, PA
    7/19/13- Wrigley
    10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
    10/21/13- Philly, PA
    10/22/13- Philly, PA
    10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
    4/28/16- Philly, PA
    4/29/16- Philly, PA
    5/1/16- NYC
    5/2/16- NYC
    9/2/18- Boston, MA
    9/4/18- Boston, MA
    9/14/22- Camden, NJ
    9/7/24- Philly, PA
    9/9/24- Philly, PA
    Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
    Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
    RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,266
    eeriepadave said:
    ah here we go:

    Top 10 Highest Batting Averages Since 1941
    1. Tony Gwynn, San Diego (1994) .394
    2. George Brett, Kansas City (1980) .390
    3. Ted Williams, Boston (1957) .388
      Rod Carew, Minnesota (1977) .388
    5. Larry Walker, Colorado (1999) .379
    6. Stan Musial, St. Louis (1948) .376
    7. Tony Gwynn, San Diego (1997) .372
      Nomar Garciaparra, Boston (2000) .372
      Todd Helton, Colorado (2000) .372
      Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle (2004) .372

    Damn almost forgot about Rod Carew and I did forget about Larry Walker.
    I was at a game where he caught the ball in right and gave it to a fan, thinking it was the 3rd out.
    Have seen that replay so many times....crazy.
    Larry Walker was great.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    eeriepadave said:
    ah here we go:

    Top 10 Highest Batting Averages Since 1941
    1. Tony Gwynn, San Diego (1994) .394
    2. George Brett, Kansas City (1980) .390
    3. Ted Williams, Boston (1957) .388
      Rod Carew, Minnesota (1977) .388
    5. Larry Walker, Colorado (1999) .379
    6. Stan Musial, St. Louis (1948) .376
    7. Tony Gwynn, San Diego (1997) .372
      Nomar Garciaparra, Boston (2000) .372
      Todd Helton, Colorado (2000) .372
      Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle (2004) .372

    Damn almost forgot about Rod Carew and I did forget about Larry Walker.
    I wasn't counting anything further back than what Brett did.

    What's interesting is that even lowering the mound never made the players batting averages shoot up high.  I do know more 300 hitters happened after that.

    1968 Yaz led w an abysmal 301.  That one always stands out to me.

    So what is crazy about Gwynns 372 is that year Walker was on a triple crown threat and batted, get this, 362 and was second to Gwynn that year.  Walkers teammate Galarraga had 140.  What a damn year with those stats.

    Clemens had a WAR of 12 and he's a damn pitcher!
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    I remember John Olerud had a nice run at it for a bit in 1993
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,991
    Paul O'Neill was flirting with .400 in 1994. Made it to June. Ended up with. 359 then the lockout happened 
    I miss igotid88
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    igotid88 said:
    Paul O'Neill was flirting with .400 in 1994. Made it to June. Ended up with. 359 then the lockout happened 
    Bagwell was killing everything then got hit by a damn pitch and was out.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    tempo_n_groove said:
    igotid88 said:
    Paul O'Neill was flirting with .400 in 1994. Made it to June. Ended up with. 359 then the lockout happened 
    Bagwell was killing everything then got hit by a damn pitch and was out.
    Steroid Bagwell? The HOFer? :angry:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    Halos dumping everyone on the waiver wire. wait ‘til next year, tempo.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    gonna be interesting to see who picks up who from the angels. I gotta think all the teams fighting for the 2nd and 3rd wild cards will be players.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    igotid88 said:
    Paul O'Neill was flirting with .400 in 1994. Made it to June. Ended up with. 359 then the lockout happened 
    Bagwell was killing everything then got hit by a damn pitch and was out.
    Steroid Bagwell? The HOFer? :angry:
    I'm tired of the steroid argument...
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Wobbie said:
    gonna be interesting to see who picks up who from the angels. I gotta think all the teams fighting for the 2nd and 3rd wild cards will be players.
    They all stunk on the Halos so good luck.

    I would have kept Giolito unless they are bringing up everyone from the minors.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Acuna is going to have like 70 SB's this year.  Wow.

    Can he make 40/40?
  • markymark550markymark550 Posts: 5,154
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Acuna is going to have like 70 SB's this year.  Wow.

    Can he make 40/40?
    I want him to get 40/40, but don't think he will. He's definitely got the power to get to 40, as he hit 41 a few years ago and was on pace to get 40 before his knee injury in 2021. I just don't think he's going to get enough pitches to drive to get there. It seems that teams would rather let him get on base and take their chances with the other guys that are more feast or famine type hitters.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    markymark550 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Acuna is going to have like 70 SB's this year.  Wow.

    Can he make 40/40?
    I want him to get 40/40, but don't think he will. He's definitely got the power to get to 40, as he hit 41 a few years ago and was on pace to get 40 before his knee injury in 2021. I just don't think he's going to get enough pitches to drive to get there. It seems that teams would rather let him get on base and take their chances with the other guys that are more feast or famine type hitters.
    Albies Riley and Olson following isn't exactly a pitchers dream, lol!
  • markymark550markymark550 Posts: 5,154
    edited August 2023
    tempo_n_groove said:
    markymark550 said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Acuna is going to have like 70 SB's this year.  Wow.

    Can he make 40/40?
    I want him to get 40/40, but don't think he will. He's definitely got the power to get to 40, as he hit 41 a few years ago and was on pace to get 40 before his knee injury in 2021. I just don't think he's going to get enough pitches to drive to get there. It seems that teams would rather let him get on base and take their chances with the other guys that are more feast or famine type hitters.
    Albies Riley and Olson following isn't exactly a pitchers dream, lol!
    It's not ideal for a pitcher, but those guys are also hitting 60-70 points less than Acuna. Personally, I would probably rather give Acuna something better to hit and bet on myself to get groundouts/strikeouts against the other 3, but it doesn't seem to be the case right now.
    Post edited by markymark550 on
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    manny machado: fucking loser.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Wobbie said:
    manny machado: fucking loser.
    Kelenic did the same thing but kicked it and broke his foot.  That's just dumb...
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    manny machado: fucking loser.
    Kelenic did the same thing but kicked it and broke his foot.  That's just dumb...
    I was just talking in general. Mr. “hustling’s not really my thing.” He’ll never win shit.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    manny machado: fucking loser.
    Kelenic did the same thing but kicked it and broke his foot.  That's just dumb...
    I was just talking in general. Mr. “hustling’s not really my thing.” He’ll never win shit.
    Apparently mixing him w Tatis and Soto equals to that, not winning shit, lol!
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,174
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Wobbie said:
    manny machado: fucking loser.
    Kelenic did the same thing but kicked it and broke his foot.  That's just dumb...
    I was just talking in general. Mr. “hustling’s not really my thing.” He’ll never win shit.
    Apparently mixing him w Tatis and Soto equals to that, not winning shit, lol!

    I think Soto is the only one of those three with any "heart"....and I'm not even sure of that.
    If I had known then what I know now...

    Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
    VIC 07
    EV LA1 08
    Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
    Columbus 10
    EV LA 11
    Vancouver 11
    Missoula 12
    Portland 13, Spokane 13
    St. Paul 14, Denver 14
    Philly I & II, 16
    Denver 22
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