Teabagger Terrorism Continues, Law Enforcement called in.

unsung

arthurdent wrote:

unsung wrote:

They have done more damage to this country than any tea party member.

I'll stipulate that, BUT have you noticed that for the most part, eco-terrorists usually target property, not people. You CAN'T say the same thing about Tea Party.

Has the tea party murdered anyone? Has anyone even been harmed?

arthurdent

mb262200 wrote:

It's really fucking fustrating how these fucking news reporters go photo shopping and shooting video of these people, then they go back to the station and get rid of all the smart people they talked to and put together a bunch of crap that makes the whole thing look rediculous. And then people buy right into it. Are there any fucking nut jobs at a tea party? Fuckin a right there is! I've seen a couple wackos at a Pearl Jam show once or twice also. So I guess WE ALL ARE!!!

uh, huh. You've never worked in a newsroom, have you? We don't put words in peoples' mouths. All we do is hand them a microphone. It's not our fault they're a bunch of gibbering idiots.

arthurdent

unsung wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

unsung wrote:

They have done more damage to this country than any tea party member.

I'll stipulate that, BUT have you noticed that for the most part, eco-terrorists usually target property, not people. You CAN'T say the same thing about Tea Party.

Has the tea party murdered anyone? Has anyone even been harmed?

Again, I lead you back to OKC and George Tiller.

OnTheEdge

arthurdent wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

It's really fucking fustrating how these fucking news reporters go photo shopping and shooting video of these people, then they go back to the station and get rid of all the smart people they talked to and put together a bunch of crap that makes the whole thing look rediculous. And then people buy right into it. Are there any fucking nut jobs at a tea party? Fuckin a right there is! I've seen a couple wackos at a Pearl Jam show once or twice also. So I guess WE ALL ARE!!!

uh, huh. You've never worked in a newsroom, have you? We don't put words in peoples' mouths. All we do is hand them a microphone. It's not our fault they're a bunch of gibbering idiots.

Thats not what i'm saying. I don't believe that everybody they talk to comes across as an idiot.....they just don't show them.

arthurdent

mb262200 wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

mb262200 wrote:

It's really fucking fustrating how these fucking news reporters go photo shopping and shooting video of these people, then they go back to the station and get rid of all the smart people they talked to and put together a bunch of crap that makes the whole thing look rediculous. And then people buy right into it. Are there any fucking nut jobs at a tea party? Fuckin a right there is! I've seen a couple wackos at a Pearl Jam show once or twice also. So I guess WE ALL ARE!!!

uh, huh. You've never worked in a newsroom, have you? We don't put words in peoples' mouths. All we do is hand them a microphone. It's not our fault they're a bunch of gibbering idiots.

Thats not what i'm saying. I don't believe that everybody they talk to comes across as an idiot.....they just don't show them.

Honestly, if we could find someone to hold a coherent conversation, we would. Because gibbering idiots make the news media look bad, too.

OnTheEdge

Sorry....I don't believe that for a second.

You mean to tell me that when you go to a tea party there is not one member there that says:

I'm here because I am angry at larger government, closed door deals, bribery, for not listening to the people they work for, for bailouts that do nothing biut provide large bonuses, for stimulus that create no jobs.etc....

give me a fucking break.

arthurdent

mb262200 wrote:

Sorry....I don't believe that for a second.

up the long ladder, down the short rope :roll:

Starfall

Shawshank wrote:

You guys are right. Those wacky tea partiers are just OUT OF CONTROL! I personally don't see why the government hasn't set up internment camps yet for these radical killing machines. I mean, you only have to go to the news recently to see it just chalk full of Tea Party violence right? Well, I haven't seen much so far, but I know it has to be happening. Maybe I just don't recall the incidents.

Oh that's right, now I remember. They took that poor census worker and hung him. Oh wait, no that was suicide.

Oh, yeah, I forgot, they did do over $50,000 in damage during the G20 summit in Pittsburg last year. Wait a minute...no....that was those peace loving left wing radicals.

Well, I know that it was a Tea Partier who shot and killed a number of her university co-workers recently. Oh, wait. Dammit, that was some left wing nut job that professed to be an ardent Obama supporter.

It was Tea Partiers who toppled two radio towers in Seattle late last year. Crap, good thing I just checked my facts, because that was another left-wing group.

We know that it had to be Tea Partiers who broke 11 windows out at the Colorado Democratic Headquarters last year. I'm just confused why the person who did this worked for the Democratic party going door-to-door in support of Democrat Mollie Cullom.

I'm positive that Tea Partiers were going around a while back setting SUV's on fire. Shit, nope, wasn't them. Another left wing group.

I for one am hoping they can get this tea party group under control, because who knows what they may be capable of. :roll:

So bascially, just because a bunch of wackos and terrorists like the Red Army Faction and the MNLF committed assault, vandalism and murder people, the Teabagger movement should be absolved of all accountability. :roll:

What you have posted is a classic strawman argument. Put something up that has nothing to do with the issue at hand, then proceed to attack it.

arthurdent

Starfall wrote:

What you have posted is a classic strawman argument. Put something up that has nothing to do with the issue at hand, then proceed to attack it.

+1

Shawshank

arthurdent wrote:

Again, I lead you back to OKC and George Tiller.

You're right....I knew I saw Scott Roeder and Tim McVeigh at those rallies. Damn Tea Partiers. Hang em all. :roll:

arthurdent

Shawshank wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

Again, I lead you back to OKC and George Tiller.

You're right....I knew I saw Scott Roeder and Tim McVeigh at those rallies. Damn Tea Partiers. Hang em all. :roll:

What, you act like this whole "Tea Party" thing is some new-fangled, grass-roots movement? BULLSHIT. The "Tea party" brand may be new, but it's the same old compost pile. The only difference now is that you have an easily identifiable name.

*They may have changed their name to "Altria", but they're still "Phillip Morris."*

aerial

Shawshank wrote:

You guys are right. Those wacky tea partiers are just OUT OF CONTROL! I personally don't see why the government hasn't set up internment camps yet for these radical killing machines. I mean, you only have to go to the news recently to see it just chalk full of Tea Party violence right? Well, I haven't seen much so far, but I know it has to be happening. Maybe I just don't recall the incidents.

Oh that's right, now I remember. They took that poor census worker and hung him. Oh wait, no that was suicide.

Oh, yeah, I forgot, they did do over $50,000 in damage during the G20 summit in Pittsburg last year. Wait a minute...no....that was those peace loving left wing radicals.

Well, I know that it was a Tea Partier who shot and killed a number of her university co-workers recently. Oh, wait. Dammit, that was some left wing nut job that professed to be an ardent Obama supporter.

It was Tea Partiers who toppled two radio towers in Seattle late last year. Crap, good thing I just checked my facts, because that was another left-wing group.

We know that it had to be Tea Partiers who broke 11 windows out at the Colorado Democratic Headquarters last year. I'm just confused why the person who did this worked for the Democratic party going door-to-door in support of Democrat Mollie Cullom.

I'm positive that Tea Partiers were going around a while back setting SUV's on fire. Shit, nope, wasn't them. Another left wing group.

I for one am hoping they can get this tea party group under control, because who knows what they may be capable of. :roll:

Thank YOU!!
Thank YOU!!

Shawshank

Starfall wrote:

So bascially, just because a bunch of wackos and terrorists like the Red Army Faction and the MNLF committed assault, vandalism and murder people, the Teabagger movement should be absolved of all accountability. :roll:

What you have posted is a classic strawman argument. Put something up that has nothing to do with the issue at hand, then proceed to attack it.

Jesus, is it really that hard to understand? I'm trying to dumb it down as much as I can. My point is, show me where Tea Partiers have committed this violence. I can keep going with my list if you want me to. Show me where the fear is justified. If the Tea Party group starts issuing orders for it's members to attack and cause hell, then yes they have to be accountable. I haven't seen anything that comes anywhere near that. Are people pissed? Yes. Do they say stupid things? Yes. Do they go out killing and vandalizing? No. But the nutjobs will. There are fucking wacko nut jobs on every side....EVERY SIDE. Do you understand that? You guys make it sound like conservatives who supported the Tea Party movement are condoning and encouraging violence. The only violence I see so far has come from the left, and much of it self-inflicted.

arthurdent

Shawshank wrote:

arthurdent wrote:

Again, I lead you back to OKC and George Tiller.

You're right....I knew I saw Scott Roeder and Tim McVeigh at those rallies. Damn Tea Partiers. Hang em all. :roll:

“Based on observations of the policies of my own government, I viewed this action as an acceptable option.”
_Timothy McVeigh quote


“Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or ill it teaches the whole people by its example.”
_Timothy McVeigh quote





if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

Starfall

Shawshank wrote:

Jesus, is it really that hard to understand? I'm trying to dumb it down as much as I can. My point is, show me where Tea Partiers have committed this violence. I can keep going with my list if you want me to. Show me where the fear is justified.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. What I am pointing out is that the rhetoric and the threats are ratcheting up higher and higher, where Congressmen are now asking for police protection. And if you don't think a gas line being cut at the home of a Congressman's brother who has 4 children under 8 isn't cause for fear, then you obviously don't have kids.

If the Tea Party group starts issuing orders for it's members to attack and cause hell, then yes they have to be accountable. I haven't seen anything that comes anywhere near that.

We've already seen a Teabagger blogger call for his followers to vandalize Democratic Congressmen's offices by breaking their windows... and even took credit for the attacks. From simply shouting down elected Representatives last summer, to telling people where a Congressman's house is and telling people to "pay him a visit". (Not that it matters that the address was actually the Congressman's brother's house, as I indicated above.)

Are people pissed? Yes. Do they say stupid things? Yes. Do they go out killing and vandalizing? No. But the nutjobs will. There are fucking wacko nut jobs on every side....EVERY SIDE. Do you understand that? You guys make it sound like conservatives who supported the Tea Party movement are condoning and encouraging violence.

And when left wing nutjobs commit violence and ratchet up violent rhetoric against our elected Representatives, I will condemn them also. But that's not what's happening now, is it?
(BTW, you read Boehner's statement and Sarah Palin's tweet I posted earlier? They're not the only ones.)

The only violence I see so far has come from the left, and much of it self-inflicted.

Obviously your vision needs checking, as the Oklahoma CIty bombing, the worst domestic terrorist attack on this country, was committed by a right wing fanatic.

But thank you for proving my point and completely ignoring the fact that you're putting up a strawman.

Shawshank

TriumphantAngel wrote:

i have some questions for you two if that's ok.
which of the tea parties policies best supports your view on things? are you critical of any of their policies?

who did you support prior to the tea party?

I'll start by saying I didn't support George Bush. I supported our troops, but I never supported the war effort, or his bailout of the financial industry. I don't hug the nuts of who ever is in office just because they have an R at the end of their name. I really don't care for either party. There are good people on both sides, but for the most part, both sides are nearly corrupt beyond repair.

As far as policies which the Tea Party movement supports, the biggest driving factor behind the movement was the fiscal irresponsibility of our government. That is a point that I strongly agree with and it is the foundation of the movement. People don't realize that government would actually do more for people, if it spent less and was more responsible. Just like any business, it needs to make cuts. And I'm talking all types of spending cuts....even cuts in defense spending. Spending less, means a smaller tax burden on everyone, and more revenue that can be put into better social programs (yes I'm a bit of a socialist). Even though only 33% of the population pays 100% of the income tax, what's left of the middle class and the poor are still taxed at insane rates through other avenues. It's the wastefulness that I think people are growing tired of.

One of the policies I don't agree with, is how they have let some Republicans latch onto the movement. I personally wouldn't let any of them speak at a Rally.

Smellyman

fiscal freaking responsibiltiy. gimme a break.

R's and baggers could give two sh!ts about it.

Two biggest spenders and debt creators Reagon Maximus and GW are their heroes!!

More wars! Mor Military! More tax cuts! bigger debt. The republican way!!

then let the dems figure out how to fix it.

aerial

Starfall wrote:

Shawshank wrote:

Jesus, is it really that hard to understand? I'm trying to dumb it down as much as I can. My point is, show me where Tea Partiers have committed this violence. I can keep going with my list if you want me to. Show me where the fear is justified.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get at. What I am pointing out is that the rhetoric and the threats are ratcheting up higher and higher, where Congressmen are now asking for police protection. And if you don't think a gas line being cut at the home of a Congressman's brother who has 4 children under 8 isn't cause for fear, then you obviously don't have kids.

If the Tea Party group starts issuing orders for it's members to attack and cause hell, then yes they have to be accountable. I haven't seen anything that comes anywhere near that.

We've already seen a Teabagger blogger call for his followers to vandalize Democratic Congressmen's offices by breaking glass. From simply shouting down elected Representatives last summer, to telling people where a Congressman's house is and telling people to "pay him a visit". (Not that it matters that the address was actually the Congressman's brother's house, as I indicated above.)

Are people pissed? Yes. Do they say stupid things? Yes. Do they go out killing and vandalizing? No. But the nutjobs will. There are fucking wacko nut jobs on every side....EVERY SIDE. Do you understand that? You guys make it sound like conservatives who supported the Tea Party movement are condoning and encouraging violence.

And when left wing nutjobs commit violence and ratchet up violent rhetoric against our elected Representatives, I will condemn them also. But that's not what's happening now, is it?
(BTW, you read Boehner's statement and Sarah Palin's tweet I posted earlier? They're not the only ones.)

The only violence I see so far has come from the left, and much of it self-inflicted.

Obviously your vision needs checking, as the Oklahoma CIty bombing, the worst domestic terrorist attack on this country, was committed by a right wing fanatic.

But thank you for proving my point and completely ignoring the fact that you're putting up a strawman.

I do not Condone violence or vandalism....but come on it was a propane gas line on his outside gas Grill....if that was a threat on his life I would say “ it was a joke”

aerial

Smellyman wrote:

fiscal freaking responsibiltiy. gimme a break.

R's and baggers could give two sh!ts about it.

Two biggest spenders and debt creators Reagon Maximus and GW are there heroes!!

More wars! Mor Military! More tax cuts! bigger debt. The republican way!!

then let the dems figure out how to fix it.

Were are you getting this information....are you making it up? There not my heroes

Starfall

Shawshank wrote:

As far as policies which the Tea Party movement supports, the biggest driving factor behind the movement was the fiscal irresponsibility of our government.

The fiscal irresponsibility had been going on for 8 years under the Bush Administration, and yet they only decided to show up when a Democrat - a black man - is elected President. Couple that with all the racist language and imagery, I'm seriously doubting that fiscal responsibility is the primary thrust of the movement.

One of the policies I don't agree with, is how they have let some Republicans latch onto the movement. I personally wouldn't let any of them speak at a Rally.

And yet not only have a lot of people and organizations with known Republican ties latched onto the movement, the movement itself is 74% pro-Republican or lean Republican.
I'm not convinced that the movement is as independent as some people make them appear to be.