Yeah Pearl Jam should just go broke being one of the best live bands in the world. They don't deserve being paid for working at something for 20+ years. They totally don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. They don't donate personal items and signed shit for charities and people. None of that right? :roll:
do you really think they are going broke? Phish can play the garden for 50 bucks a pop yet Pearl Jam is starving at 85 bucks a pop?
Has anybody ever thought about how much $ the 10c brings in on renewals and newbies ? My # is in the 400's so does that mean that there are 400 ? something members ?
If so wouldn't that be 400,xxx x $20 ?
There have been over 400,000 people that have ever been in the 10c, yes. But that doesn't include the number of people that have not renewed (ever). We don't know how many people are currently active, but it's not 400,000.
How much I would LOVE to give my opinion, on this little $3.50 service charge....
But I am going to keep my mouth shut.....For now, anyways....
Just say it i know you can express your self better than me oh by the way ..
NY is overrated or like you say fuck NY
I am trying to be a "Kinder, Gentler SPEEDY" these days...hehehehehehe....So I am going to keep my mouth shut on this topic, at least for a few minutes, until I have had my coffee....hehehehehehehehehehe
Fuck NY
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
The way I see it is....someone has to sort organize and handle the ticket ordering and also the handing out of the 10 club tickets at the gates. That costs money and so far the folks have done a very good job judging by my past experiences, my tickets were always there in hand in less than a minute with no problems.
So you could complain now because you had to pay extra or you could complain later while waiting in a long line of people at the gate because they had to hire some loser for pennies who messed up all the tickets.
Oh dear dad
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
with this kind of argumentative skill you should be a highly paid lawyer... or a playground monitor... either or.
well I certainly wouldn't buy anything that I was so skeptical of.....especially for a $3.50 fee
I mean seriously....why don't you whiners form a protest and burn your bras or something meaningful instead of bitching about it on a message board?
You do a really good job at saying nothing meaningful at all. Sometimes people prefer to question things instead of following blindly. I'm not even buying US tickets but I'd love to know why there's a $7 handling charge per order. If you are happy paying whatever is asked of you, fine, but others have a right to question it. And when the supposed reasoning in totally misleading, even more so.
The way I see it is....someone has to sort organize and handle the ticket ordering and also the handing out of the 10 club tickets at the gates. That costs money and so far the folks have done a very good job judging by my past experiences, my tickets were always there in hand in less than a minute with no problems.
So you could complain now because you had to pay extra or you could complain later while waiting in a long line of people at the gate because they had to hire some loser for pennies who messed up all the tickets.
who handed the tickets out 2 years ago when there was no ten club handling fee?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
They could always outsource the ticket selling and handling job to China and then we could all sit here bitching about not having a job or move to China ??
Oh dear dad
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
They could always outsource the ticket selling and handling job to China and then we could all sit here bitching about not having a job or move to China ??
The way I see it is....someone has to sort organize and handle the ticket ordering and also the handing out of the 10 club tickets at the gates. That costs money and so far the folks have done a very good job judging by my past experiences, my tickets were always there in hand in less than a minute with no problems.
So you could complain now because you had to pay extra or you could complain later while waiting in a long line of people at the gate because they had to hire some loser for pennies who messed up all the tickets.
who handed the tickets out 2 years ago when there was no ten club handling fee?
This is making excuses anyway (and poor ones at that). SLH himself in this thread said that the $3.50 was for the credit card transaction fee, but that is very misleading.
The way I see it is....someone has to sort organize and handle the ticket ordering and also the handing out of the 10 club tickets at the gates. That costs money and so far the folks have done a very good job judging by my past experiences, my tickets were always there in hand in less than a minute with no problems.
So you could complain now because you had to pay extra or you could complain later while waiting in a long line of people at the gate because they had to hire some loser for pennies who messed up all the tickets.
who handed the tickets out 2 years ago when there was no ten club handling fee?
This is making excuses anyway (and poor ones at that). SLH himself in this thread said that the $3.50 was for the credit card transaction fee, but that is very misleading.
exactly how is it misleading?....seems pretty direct to me
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
who handed the tickets out 2 years ago when there was no ten club handling fee?
I never asked for a name but it does look like a tedious job. All those little envelopes in shoe boxes in alphabetical order!
I bet they got a well deserved raise.
its a tedious job because its a simple job.... i very much doubt that the $3.50 per ticket went to some person who sits in a portacabin looking out peoples tickets.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
This is making excuses anyway (and poor ones at that). SLH himself in this thread said that the $3.50 was for the credit card transaction fee, but that is very misleading.
exactly how is it misleading?....seems pretty direct to me
I'll explain it again even though I've already done so and give your reading comprehension the benefit of the doubt.
1. The ticket pages themselves say that each ticket includes a fee of $3.50. EACH. TICKET. Members cannot purchase single tickets. THEREFORE there is a $7 fee per transaction for 2 tickets.
2. SLH said $3.50 covers the transaction fee. What about the other $3.50 then, from the second ticket, where does that go?
3. As I have shown, credit card transaction fees are tops 3% and usually lower. Three percent of a transaction of $150 is $4.50 so in that instance where does the other $2.50 go?
Please tell me exactly how that isn't misleading? Seems pretty direct to me.
its a tedious job because its a simple job.... i very much doubt that the $3.50 per ticket went to some person who sits in a portacabin looking out peoples tickets.
Well I do know credit card processors take anywhere from 1.5 to 4.5% of the total sale price as well so if a ticket is 80.00 the credit card processor gets anywhere from 1.20 to 3.60 per ticket.
Oh dear dad
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
This is making excuses anyway (and poor ones at that). SLH himself in this thread said that the $3.50 was for the credit card transaction fee, but that is very misleading.
exactly how is it misleading?....seems pretty direct to me
I'll explain it again even though I've already done so and give your reading comprehension the benefit of the doubt.
1. The ticket pages themselves say that each ticket includes a fee of $3.50. EACH. TICKET. Members cannot purchase single tickets. THEREFORE there is a $7 fee per transaction for 2 tickets.
2. SLH said $3.50 covers the transaction fee. What about the other $3.50 then, from the second ticket, where does that go?
3. As I have shown, credit card transaction fees are tops 3% and usually lower. Three percent of a transaction of $150 is $4.50 so in that instance where does the other $2.50 go?
Please tell me exactly how that isn't misleading? Seems pretty direct to me.
well as a business owner I can tell you that yes a credit card fee might be anywhere from 1.5% to 3.5% or higher for AMEX....PLUS you have to pay a monthly processing fee based on volume PLUS you might have to pay other fees for foreign currency translations, etc.
but go on with your conspiracy theory....there's something there man
Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
its a tedious job because its a simple job.... i very much doubt that the $3.50 per ticket went to some person who sits in a portacabin looking out peoples tickets.
Well I do know credit card processors take anywhere from 1.5 to 4.5% of the total sale price as well so if a ticket is 80.00 the credit card processor gets anywhere from 1.20 to 3.60 per ticket.
well i think we're straying from the point a bit here... the point being that you need to learn how to use the quote function.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
i very much doubt that the $3.50 per ticket went to some person who sits in a portacabin looking out peoples tickets.[/i]
Well I do know credit card processors take anywhere from 1.5 to 4.5% of the total sale price as well so if a ticket is 80.00 the credit card processor gets anywhere from 1.20 to 3.60 per ticket.[/quote]
well i think we're straying from the point a bit here... the point being that you need to learn how to use the quote function. [/quote]
What He Said!!!!
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I'll explain it again even though I've already done so and give your reading comprehension the benefit of the doubt.
1. The ticket pages themselves say that each ticket includes a fee of $3.50. EACH. TICKET. Members cannot purchase single tickets. THEREFORE there is a $7 fee per transaction for 2 tickets.
2. SLH said $3.50 covers the transaction fee. What about the other $3.50 then, from the second ticket, where does that go?
3. As I have shown, credit card transaction fees are tops 3% and usually lower. Three percent of a transaction of $150 is $4.50 so in that instance where does the other $2.50 go?
Please tell me exactly how that isn't misleading? Seems pretty direct to me.
well as a business owner I can tell you that yes a credit card fee might be anywhere from 1.5% to 3.5% or higher for AMEX....PLUS you have to pay a monthly processing fee based on volume PLUS you might have to pay other fees for foreign currency translations, etc.
but go on with your conspiracy theory....there's something there man
10C only accepts Visa and Mastercard. Besides no matter how you slice it there's at least an extra $2 per order (being very generous) not accounted for by the fee. That adds up over alllllllllllllll the orders. So yeah, I'm not at all convinced, but carry on with your blind faith.
Im glad I realized that pj's business practices were taking a U-turn several years ago. Therefore these 'news of change' has stopped bothering me. The golden years of both pj and ten c are gone, but thankfully pj can still put on a great show (which in the end is the most important thing).
And please stop feeling sorry for pj's wallet. Those are all in healthy condition and to think otherwise is crazyness. I bet even Dave Krusen still enjoys his ten royalties.
no man I'm with you.....what could it be? funding the contras? buying smack through the CIA money laundering dry cleaning shops?
what? what is it? I gots ta no.....
Yes, because this seems like it's Ticketmaster-esque bullshit, I obviously believe it's a conspiracy. It's hypocritical and I don't buy the supposed excuse. It really is that simple. But hey, I'm sure someone here finds you at least partially amusing.
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There have been over 400,000 people that have ever been in the 10c, yes. But that doesn't include the number of people that have not renewed (ever). We don't know how many people are currently active, but it's not 400,000.
Fuck NY
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
well I certainly wouldn't buy anything that I was so skeptical of.....especially for a $3.50 fee
I mean seriously....why don't you whiners form a protest and burn your bras or something meaningful instead of bitching about it on a message board?
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
So you could complain now because you had to pay extra or you could complain later while waiting in a long line of people at the gate because they had to hire some loser for pennies who messed up all the tickets.
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
You do a really good job at saying nothing meaningful at all. Sometimes people prefer to question things instead of following blindly. I'm not even buying US tickets but I'd love to know why there's a $7 handling charge per order. If you are happy paying whatever is asked of you, fine, but others have a right to question it. And when the supposed reasoning in totally misleading, even more so.
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who handed the tickets out 2 years ago when there was no ten club handling fee?
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
I don't even know what this means.
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This is making excuses anyway (and poor ones at that). SLH himself in this thread said that the $3.50 was for the credit card transaction fee, but that is very misleading.
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exactly how is it misleading?....seems pretty direct to me
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
I never asked for a name but it does look like a tedious job. All those little envelopes in shoe boxes in alphabetical order!
I bet they got a well deserved raise.
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
its a tedious job because its a simple job.... i very much doubt that the $3.50 per ticket went to some person who sits in a portacabin looking out peoples tickets.
I'll explain it again even though I've already done so and give your reading comprehension the benefit of the doubt.
1. The ticket pages themselves say that each ticket includes a fee of $3.50. EACH. TICKET. Members cannot purchase single tickets. THEREFORE there is a $7 fee per transaction for 2 tickets.
2. SLH said $3.50 covers the transaction fee. What about the other $3.50 then, from the second ticket, where does that go?
3. As I have shown, credit card transaction fees are tops 3% and usually lower. Three percent of a transaction of $150 is $4.50 so in that instance where does the other $2.50 go?
Please tell me exactly how that isn't misleading? Seems pretty direct to me.
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Well I do know credit card processors take anywhere from 1.5 to 4.5% of the total sale price as well so if a ticket is 80.00 the credit card processor gets anywhere from 1.20 to 3.60 per ticket.
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
well as a business owner I can tell you that yes a credit card fee might be anywhere from 1.5% to 3.5% or higher for AMEX....PLUS you have to pay a monthly processing fee based on volume PLUS you might have to pay other fees for foreign currency translations, etc.
but go on with your conspiracy theory....there's something there man
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
well i think we're straying from the point a bit here... the point being that you need to learn how to use the quote function.
Well I do know credit card processors take anywhere from 1.5 to 4.5% of the total sale price as well so if a ticket is 80.00 the credit card processor gets anywhere from 1.20 to 3.60 per ticket.[/quote]
well i think we're straying from the point a bit here... the point being that you need to learn how to use the quote function. [/quote]
What He Said!!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
10C only accepts Visa and Mastercard. Besides no matter how you slice it there's at least an extra $2 per order (being very generous) not accounted for by the fee. That adds up over alllllllllllllll the orders. So yeah, I'm not at all convinced, but carry on with your blind faith.
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what? what is it? I gots ta no.....
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
And please stop feeling sorry for pj's wallet. Those are all in healthy condition and to think otherwise is crazyness. I bet even Dave Krusen still enjoys his ten royalties.
Yes, because this seems like it's Ticketmaster-esque bullshit, I obviously believe it's a conspiracy. It's hypocritical and I don't buy the supposed excuse. It really is that simple. But hey, I'm sure someone here finds you at least partially amusing.
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I prefer it this way, I don't like the boxes. I also didn't know the whole point of this thread was about my learning to use the quote function.
Thanks for the edumacation
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me