"$3.50 Ten Club handling Fee"?

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

hopethatuchoke wrote:

I'm pretty sure every single person here bitches about Ticketmaster service charges. So why are you defending a $3.50 Ten Club service charge? You are hypocrites.

+1

Better Dan

Dr. Delight wrote:

Absolutely nothing wrong with the question asked by the OP. It's a valid question that in all fairness, should be responded to in some form by the 10Club.
We pay our fees, they should in turn respond to any concerns or issues we have with the product, and the overall running of the club when it directly affects each and every one of us.

If we have concerns, we should e-mail or write the club or the band's management in a thoughtful and respectful way. Has the OP done this yet?

teflonsteve

DS114969 wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

Absolutely nothing wrong with the question asked by the OP. It's a valid question that in all fairness, should be responded to in some form by the 10Club.
We pay our fees, they should in turn respond to any concerns or issues we have with the product, and the overall running of the club when it directly affects each and every one of us.

If we have concerns, we should e-mail or write the club or the band's management in a thoughtful and respectful way. Has the OP done this yet?

This is a discussion board, where people discuss things.

Better Dan

teflonsteve wrote:

DS114969 wrote:

Dr. Delight wrote:

Absolutely nothing wrong with the question asked by the OP. It's a valid question that in all fairness, should be responded to in some form by the 10Club.
We pay our fees, they should in turn respond to any concerns or issues we have with the product, and the overall running of the club when it directly affects each and every one of us.

If we have concerns, we should e-mail or write the club or the band's management in a thoughtful and respectful way. Has the OP done this yet?

This is a discussion board, where people discuss things.

I know it is and I have no problem with the post, but I think if the OP and others are really serious about their complaints it would make sense to do something more productive about it yeah?

jammingwhileIcan

I don't understand how PJ fans cannot realize the op is complaining about principle more than the actual money. Have we all forgotten how PJ was all about their fans, cheap tickets, no selling out to the "man". These crazy ticket prices, the ridiculous add on charges, and not to mention the crap that is "speed of sound", should all be wake up calls to this new corporate outlook that has a hold over the band.
I guess after 20 years as rich rockstars youre bound to lose touch with the people at some time. It was good while it lasted though.

Long live PJ 1990- 2003

SolarWorld

If people have problems with paying a $3.50 service fee to help take care of the tenclub and their people, they have bigger issues to worry about. Like how they pay for food day to day $3.50? You cant even get a large Starfucks for that. Hell you can barely get a fast food meal for that.

Everyone's costs have gone up. Everywhere. Have you complainers stopped to think maybe Ten Club LLC provides benefits to their employees? Perhaps these benis have gone up? Maybe rent at the spot they are at has gone up. Maybe the merchant account they have has increased their rates on transactions. There are any number of reasons for this charge. I wish people would just the thing they have between their shoulders.

In the end if you are really that mad, DO NOT RENEW!

SolarWorld

coaljam wrote:

I don't understand how PJ fans cannot realize the op is complaining about principle more than the actual money. Have we all forgotten how PJ was all about their fans, cheap tickets, no selling out to the "man". These crazy ticket prices, the ridiculous add on charges, and not to mention the crap that is "speed of sound", should all be wake up calls to this new corporate outlook that has a hold over the band.
I guess after 20 years as rich rockstars youre bound to lose touch with the people at some time. It was good while it lasted though.

Long live PJ 1990- 2003

The principle of the argument is completely flawed and insane.

Better Dan

SolarWorld wrote:

If people have problems with paying a $3.50 service fee to help take care of the tenclub and their people, they have bigger issues to worry about. Like how they pay for food day to day $3.50? You cant even get a large Starfucks for that. Hell you can barely get a fast food meal for that.

Everyone's costs have gone up. Everywhere. Have you complainers stopped to think maybe Ten Club LLC provides benefits to their employees? Perhaps these benis have gone up? Maybe rent at the spot they are at has gone up. Maybe the merchant account they have has increased their rates on transactions. There are any number of reasons for this charge. I wish people would just the thing they have between their shoulders.

In the end if you are really that mad, DO NOT RENEW!

Wow Solar, I didn't think I would agree with you 100 %. Well said.

teflonsteve

SolarWorld wrote:

If people have problems with paying a $3.50 service fee to help take care of the tenclub and their people, they have bigger issues to worry about. Like how they pay for food day to day $3.50? You cant even get a large Starfucks for that. Hell you can barely get a fast food meal for that.

Everyone's costs have gone up. Everywhere. Have you complainers stopped to think maybe Ten Club LLC provides benefits to their employees? Perhaps these benis have gone up? Maybe rent at the spot they are at has gone up. Maybe the merchant account they have has increased their rates on transactions. There are any number of reasons for this charge. I wish people would just the thing they have between their shoulders.

In the end if you are really that mad, DO NOT RENEW!

Nobody fucking cares about the actual dollar amount. I shit 3.50 out my ass. It's the principle of the whole thing.

And why don't you use the thing you have between your shoulders for your own thoughts and not for mindless hero worship.

jammingwhileIcan

SolarWorld wrote:

coaljam wrote:

I don't understand how PJ fans cannot realize the op is complaining about principle more than the actual money. Have we all forgotten how PJ was all about their fans, cheap tickets, no selling out to the "man". These crazy ticket prices, the ridiculous add on charges, and not to mention the crap that is "speed of sound", should all be wake up calls to this new corporate outlook that has a hold over the band.
I guess after 20 years as rich rockstars youre bound to lose touch with the people at some time. It was good while it lasted though.

Long live PJ 1990- 2003

The principle of the argument is completely flawed and insane.

Please enlighten me. What principle are you taliking about?

dunkman

SolarWorld wrote:

If people have problems with paying a $3.50 service fee to help take care of the tenclub and their people, they have bigger issues to worry about. Like how they pay for food day to day $3.50? You cant even get a large Starfucks for that. Hell you can barely get a fast food meal for that.

Everyone's costs have gone up. Everywhere. Have you complainers stopped to think maybe Ten Club LLC provides benefits to their employees? Perhaps these benis have gone up? Maybe rent at the spot they are at has gone up. Maybe the merchant account they have has increased their rates on transactions. There are any number of reasons for this charge. I wish people would just the thing they have between their shoulders.

In the end if you are really that mad, DO NOT RENEW!

are the band millionaires? do they need to make $x every tour per individual, why not make $y... couldn't the band members in this tough financial time take a 10% hit on their 'profit' per tour? are they really that hard up?

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

SolarWorld wrote:

If people have problems with paying a $3.50 service fee to help take care of the tenclub and their people, they have bigger issues to worry about. Like how they pay for food day to day $3.50? You cant even get a large Starfucks for that. Hell you can barely get a fast food meal for that.

Everyone's costs have gone up. Everywhere. Have you complainers stopped to think maybe Ten Club LLC provides benefits to their employees? Perhaps these benis have gone up? Maybe rent at the spot they are at has gone up. Maybe the merchant account they have has increased their rates on transactions. There are any number of reasons for this charge. I wish people would just the thing they have between their shoulders.

In the end if you are really that mad, DO NOT RENEW!

no.

Empty Glass

I pay $52 a year for the right to work in the city of Harrisburg, so $3.50...

We may have paid service fee before, this is the first time we've seen it. First time we've seen charity before and the band has said, ticket money is going to a local charity at shows.

Better Dan

dunkman wrote:

SolarWorld wrote:

If people have problems with paying a $3.50 service fee to help take care of the tenclub and their people, they have bigger issues to worry about. Like how they pay for food day to day $3.50? You cant even get a large Starfucks for that. Hell you can barely get a fast food meal for that.

Everyone's costs have gone up. Everywhere. Have you complainers stopped to think maybe Ten Club LLC provides benefits to their employees? Perhaps these benis have gone up? Maybe rent at the spot they are at has gone up. Maybe the merchant account they have has increased their rates on transactions. There are any number of reasons for this charge. I wish people would just the thing they have between their shoulders.

In the end if you are really that mad, DO NOT RENEW!

are the band millionaires? do they need to make $x every tour per individual, why not make $y... couldn't the band members in this tough financial time take a 10% hit on their 'profit' per tour? are they really that hard up?

Maybe they could, but why should they ? That makes no sense. And they aren't the only ones in their organization.

hopethatuchoke

The idolatry around here is sickening.

SolarWorld

The blatant stupidity around here is sickening.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

look, everyone knows they are sellouts, like most bands, and most people. they are full of shit just like every other douchebag rockstar. but the live shows kick ass. so if its worth it to you to buy them, go ahead. dont worry about it. just accept it and move on.

SolarWorld

MrSmith wrote:

look, everyone knows they are sellouts, like most bands, and most people. they are full of shit just like every other douchebag rockstar. but the live shows kick ass. so if its worth it to you to buy them, go ahead. dont worry about it. just accept it and move on.

If that's really what you think, then why do you post here? If you have contempt for a band or org why would you spend time on their website? You care enough to complain but.....?

SpinTheBlackCircle74

MrSmith wrote:

look, everyone knows they are sellouts, like most bands, and most people. they are full of shit just like every other douchebag rockstar. but the live shows kick ass. so if its worth it to you to buy them, go ahead. dont worry about it. just accept it and move on.

+1

jammingwhileIcan

MrSmith wrote:

look, everyone knows they are sellouts, like most bands, and most people. they are full of shit just like every other douchebag rockstar. but the live shows kick ass. so if its worth it to you to buy them, go ahead. dont worry about it. just accept it and move on.

I think you are exactly right but with PJ it is an extremely hard thing to admit. Viewing them in this sellout light changes the bands morals and, for me at least, that takes away from some of the power of the lyrics that Eddie wrote. You want to be able to relate to the values of the person whose poetry you are connecting to.
But again I happen to think you are right,is blatant sell-outness worse than this masquarade that PJ does?