I want to do what Chris Mccandless did...sort of

Black Diamond

Rygar wrote:

ms. wes c.addle wrote:

I completely see where other people are coming from, its just that some others aren't and are quick to judge and refer to it as 'rebelling' or selfish becasuse they choose an alternate path than what most of society views as whats expected. I have respect for whatever people choose...
AS LONG AS THEY ARE HAPPY AND BEING TRUE TO THEIRSELVES

A lot of the 'selfish' argument isn't about the travelling or style of living, it's coming from the complete lack of communication with "loved ones" while he was off doing these things.

+1.

Hopefully when my kids get to Chris's age I

1. Will have a better relationship with them than his parents did.
2. Will have enough respect to give them their space to pursue their dreams eventhough they might be mine
3. They will have enough respect to contact us and feel that my wife and I are the kind of parents that they will check in with.

I get the appeal of what he did, it's the lack of contact, especially with his sister that was the sadness I experienced from the movie.

Ms. Wes C.addle

Rygar wrote:

ms. wes c.addle wrote:

I completely see where other people are coming from, its just that some others aren't and are quick to judge and refer to it as 'rebelling' or selfish becasuse they choose an alternate path than what most of society views as whats expected. I have respect for whatever people choose...
AS LONG AS THEY ARE HAPPY AND BEING TRUE TO THEIRSELVES

A lot of the 'selfish' argument isn't about the travelling or style of living, it's coming from the complete lack of communication with "loved ones" while he was off doing these things.

I could be mistaken, but am too lazy to go back and look, but I don't think that this is what the op means, to live according to the book and not communicate, and for people to assume this is kinda stupid. But.... Anywho!
Lol
Not everyone can see everyones point of view... I get it.

eyedclaar

Rygar wrote:

ms. wes c.addle wrote:

I completely see where other people are coming from, its just that some others aren't and are quick to judge and refer to it as 'rebelling' or selfish becasuse they choose an alternate path than what most of society views as whats expected. I have respect for whatever people choose...
AS LONG AS THEY ARE HAPPY AND BEING TRUE TO THEIRSELVES

A lot of the 'selfish' argument isn't about the travelling or style of living, it's coming from the complete lack of communication with "loved ones" while he was off doing these things.

But that was the point. He didn't want to talk to those people at that moment in his life. Probably about 95% of all of us have broke off communication with certain family members at some point. Sometimes we repair those relationships and sometimes we don't. I'm positive, Chris assumed he would see them again one day. He didn't decide to die to teach them all a lesson. Hell, I talk to my brother in Alaska about once every leap year, I suppose if I die tomorrow that makes me selfish for having not called in awhile.

dcfaithful

While I admire Chris McCandless, I think you should do a bit more research and a little bit more training than he did. I understand he was in a hurry to run away from the things he disliked, but he could've used a bit more knowledge of surviving outdoors...

If you're going to do something like this, take the time to catch up on your knowledge and know your shit. When you're alone in the wilderness for extended periods of time, it's not a question of if something life challenging will happen, it's a question of when.

Rygar

eyedclaar wrote:

Rygar wrote:

ms. wes c.addle wrote:

I completely see where other people are coming from, its just that some others aren't and are quick to judge and refer to it as 'rebelling' or selfish becasuse they choose an alternate path than what most of society views as whats expected. I have respect for whatever people choose...
AS LONG AS THEY ARE HAPPY AND BEING TRUE TO THEIRSELVES

A lot of the 'selfish' argument isn't about the travelling or style of living, it's coming from the complete lack of communication with "loved ones" while he was off doing these things.

But that was the point. He didn't want to talk to those people at that moment in his life. Probably about 95% of all of us have broke off communication with certain family members at some point. Sometimes we repair those relationships and sometimes we don't. I'm positive, Chris assumed he would see them again one day. He didn't decide to die to teach them all a lesson. Hell, I talk to my brother in Alaska about once every leap year, I suppose if I die tomorrow that makes me selfish for having not called in awhile.

Even his sister, with whom he had a great relationship with?

Rygar

ms. wes c.addle wrote:

Rygar wrote:

ms. wes c.addle wrote:

I completely see where other people are coming from, its just that some others aren't and are quick to judge and refer to it as 'rebelling' or selfish becasuse they choose an alternate path than what most of society views as whats expected. I have respect for whatever people choose...
AS LONG AS THEY ARE HAPPY AND BEING TRUE TO THEIRSELVES

A lot of the 'selfish' argument isn't about the travelling or style of living, it's coming from the complete lack of communication with "loved ones" while he was off doing these things.

I could be mistaken, but am too lazy to go back and look, but I don't think that this is what the op means, to live according to the book and not communicate, and for people to assume this is kinda stupid. But.... Anywho!
Lol
Not everyone can see everyones point of view... I get it.

You're right, but I think this got way off course by page....1 or so

SPEEDY MCCREADY

I am going to go to work today....and tomorrow ....and the next day....

Then in June I may go camping for a couple nights...

Maybe go camping in August, too....

In between those camping trips I am going to keep going to work 5 days a week......

Wobbie

the wolf wrote:

I live in a place where it's just not an option, the place is called reality. I wanted to do this when I was your age, but didn't.

I also now live in reality....I'm surprised we haven't met.

But, back in the day, I thumbed my way from Ohio to Florida, Ohio to Colorado, Ohio to Martha's Vineyard and Ohio to Mexico. Good times, bro. :thumbup:

Ms. Wes C.addle

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

I am going to go to work today....and tomorrow ....and the next day....

Then in June I may go camping for a couple nights...

Maybe go camping in August, too....

In between those camping trips I am going to keep going to work 5 days a week......

Camping?!?
Work?!?
Omfg! How selfish and reckless of you!!!

Lmao

eyedclaar

dcfaithful wrote:

While I admire Chris McCandless, I think you should do a bit more research and a little bit more training than he did. I understand he was in a hurry to run away from the things he disliked, but he could've used a bit more knowledge of surviving outdoors...

If you're going to do something like this, take the time to catch up on your knowledge and know your shit. When you're alone in the wilderness for extended periods of time, it's not a question of if something life challenging will happen, it's a question of when.

Why is this so hard to understand, people? Yes, you're right, but Chris knew this as well. He was looking for a real challenge and that is why he went in under prepared and without all the correct gear. I repeat, CHRIS UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING. He wanted to try it the hard way and with the exception of not understanding the power of summer run-off in Alaska, he did just fine. Had he crossed back over, none of us would known his story or given a shit one way or the other. I've been on survival trips with my knife and flint and steel. I guess, now is when some of you should chime in telling me what I really needed to do was read up on camping and take more stuff.

the wolf

imalive wrote:

the wolf wrote:

I live in a place where it's just not an option, the place is called reality. I wanted to do this when I was your age, but didn't.

I also now live in reality....I'm surprised we haven't met.

But, back in the day, I thumbed my way from Ohio to Florida, Ohio to Colorado, Ohio to Martha's Vineyard and Ohio to Mexico. Good times, bro. :thumbup:

dont get me wrong, I have done things like that. a friend and myself took off from Ohio to florida in a ford escort that was overheating before we ever got out of ohio. We had 60 bucks between us. we made money along the way, stayed in florida for a few weeks then worked our way back. It was a great time.

I'm all for adventure.

eyedclaar

Rygar wrote:

Even his sister, with whom he had a great relationship with?

You don't think Chris worried that his sister would break down and tell his parents where he was? Any idea how embarrassing it is to be out on the razor's edge, surviving hardcore wilderness, only to have your mom show up with a thermos full of soup? It kind of ruins the whole experience.

Rygar

eyedclaar wrote:

Why is this so hard to understand, people? Yes, you're right, but Chris knew this as well. He was looking for a real challenge and that is why he went in under prepared and without all the correct gear. I repeat, CHRIS UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING. He wanted to try it the hard way and with the exception of not understanding the power of summer run-off in Alaska, he did just fine. Had he crossed back over, none of us would known his story or given a shit one way or the other. I've been on survival trips with my knife and flint and steel. I guess, now is when some of you should chime in telling me what I really needed to do was read up on camping and take more stuff.

Yeah but don't you already know what you're doing?

eyedclaar

Rygar wrote:

eyedclaar wrote:

Why is this so hard to understand, people? Yes, you're right, but Chris knew this as well. He was looking for a real challenge and that is why he went in under prepared and without all the correct gear. I repeat, CHRIS UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING. He wanted to try it the hard way and with the exception of not understanding the power of summer run-off in Alaska, he did just fine. Had he crossed back over, none of us would known his story or given a shit one way or the other. I've been on survival trips with my knife and flint and steel. I guess, now is when some of you should chime in telling me what I really needed to do was read up on camping and take more stuff.

Yeah but don't you already know what you're doing?

To a great degree, yes, but I was still learning when I was doing survival trips. Nothing teaches like doing. Chris knew what he was doing for the most part, but obviously, he didn't know everything. Few of us do. His situation just left little margin for error.

dcfaithful

eyedclaar wrote:

dcfaithful wrote:

While I admire Chris McCandless, I think you should do a bit more research and a little bit more training than he did. I understand he was in a hurry to run away from the things he disliked, but he could've used a bit more knowledge of surviving outdoors...

If you're going to do something like this, take the time to catch up on your knowledge and know your shit. When you're alone in the wilderness for extended periods of time, it's not a question of if something life challenging will happen, it's a question of when.

Why is this so hard to understand, people? Yes, you're right, but Chris knew this as well. He was looking for a real challenge and that is why he went in under prepared and without all the correct gear. I repeat, CHRIS UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING. He wanted to try it the hard way and with the exception of not understanding the power of summer run-off in Alaska, he did just fine. Had he crossed back over, none of us would known his story or given a shit one way or the other. I've been on survival trips with my knife and flint and steel. I guess, now is when some of you should chime in telling me what I really needed to do was read up on camping and take more stuff.

I'm not saying he didn't understand what he was getting into. But why make the same mistake??? :?

I believe you when you say learning is by doing or whatever, but seriously...there is plenty more research to be done...and having done the research and knowing the info doesn't take away from the experience. In fact, wouldn't it make it more enjoyable to minimize the struggle for survival?

Rygar

eyedclaar wrote:

Rygar wrote:

eyedclaar wrote:

Why is this so hard to understand, people? Yes, you're right, but Chris knew this as well. He was looking for a real challenge and that is why he went in under prepared and without all the correct gear. I repeat, CHRIS UNDERSTOOD WHAT HE WAS ATTEMPTING. He wanted to try it the hard way and with the exception of not understanding the power of summer run-off in Alaska, he did just fine. Had he crossed back over, none of us would known his story or given a shit one way or the other. I've been on survival trips with my knife and flint and steel. I guess, now is when some of you should chime in telling me what I really needed to do was read up on camping and take more stuff.

Yeah but don't you already know what you're doing?

To a great degree, yes, but I was still learning when I was doing survival trips. Nothing teaches like doing. Chris knew what he was doing for the most part, but obviously, he didn't know everything. Few of us do. His situation just left little margin for error.

I used to be a big outdoors guy, so I can relate a little. I think the argument going on in this thread has long since derailed the original topic though.

Wobbie

Rygar wrote:

I think the argument going on in this thread has long since derailed the original topic though.

like that's never happened around here.

dcfaithful

imalive wrote:

Rygar wrote:

I think the argument going on in this thread has long since derailed the original topic though.

like that's never happened around here.

Seriously!

A poster should post a new thread with the highest expectations of it becoming badly de-railed before it reaches 10 pages. If it even lives that long.

Rygar

dcfaithful wrote:

imalive wrote:

Rygar wrote:

I think the argument going on in this thread has long since derailed the original topic though.

like that's never happened around here.

Seriously!

A poster should post a new thread with the highest expectations of it becoming badly de-railed before it reaches 10 pages. If it even lives that long.

I think the OP only made it half a page on this one...

whgarrett

I hitchhiked from Nashville to Seattle once. Alone. Was a great experience and though I would like to enjoy more, I was lucky to have survived the trip. Whatever decision you make is your own destiny.