how many other sub-3.00 ERA pitchers have this kind of shitty record? :evil:
Cole Hamels 2010
12-11 3.06 ERA, 211 K's, 61 BB
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
how many other sub-3.00 ERA pitchers have this kind of shitty record? :evil:
Cole Hamels 2010
12-11 3.06 ERA, 211 K's, 61 BB
I said "sub-3.00"
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Did you expect me to actually read your post? Like I have time for that.
Anyways, their park-adjusted ERA's are probably about the same.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Did you expect me to actually read your post? Like I have time for that.
Anyways, their park-adjusted ERA's are probably about the same.
very true...juan uribe NEVER would have hit it out at AT&T :shock:
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Did you expect me to actually read your post? Like I have time for that.
Anyways, their park-adjusted ERA's are probably about the same.
very true...juan uribe NEVER would have hit it out at AT&T :shock:
Slowly shaking head...
Looks like it's time for you guys to pop in the DVD's from 2010.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Did you expect me to actually read your post? Like I have time for that.
Anyways, their park-adjusted ERA's are probably about the same.
very true...juan uribe NEVER would have hit it out at AT&T :shock:
Slowly shaking head...
Looks like it's time for you guys to pop in the DVD's from 2010.
no looking back....I'm looking forward to next year...really :?
P.S. Johnny - thanks for keeping this thread going. I don't know where the Giants' fans went :shock:
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
P.S. Johnny - thanks for keeping this thread going. I don't know where the Giants' fans went :shock:
I just like talking baseball. It's the best. I'm always talking in the threads of the teams that beat us the last two years. :?
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
P.S. Johnny - thanks for keeping this thread going. I don't know where the Giants' fans went :shock:
Dude, I like you, but as for the rest of these clowns....man, talk about fair weather. Absolutely terrible.
Not puffin' those chests anymore, other dudes, huh?
Where's FearTheBeard? The only thing about that beard I would fear is cooties.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
P.S. Johnny - thanks for keeping this thread going. I don't know where the Giants' fans went :shock:
Dude, I like you, but as for the rest of these clowns....man, talk about fair weather. Absolutely terrible.
Not puffin' those chests anymore, other dudes, huh?
Haha, don't worry baby. I'm still here! Didn't know I needed to have thousands of posts, I've got better things to do.
Anyways, it's been a rough patch for the boys. Injury, Showtime series, injury, injury. Can't ask for much if all that happens. Wonder if the Showtime show is a curse like being on the cover of Madden?
I'm not even close to fair weather. Going to watch a sweet matchup between Lincecum and Kershaw (actually might deserve the Cy Young)
just not much to talk about...a shitty season, like so many other shitty seasons....mid season trades and injuries just killed the clubhouse chemistry.
I'm waiting for our season to be over so I can root AGAINST certain teams in the playoffs...would like to see the d-bags, braves, yanks, sox and rangers gone in a hurry!
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Philly I & II, 16
Denver 22
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That Orange County kid Kennedy is still propelling the Diamondbacks atop..Still keeping my late October plans loose in any case. muhaha
3 and out.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Looks like it's time for you guys to pop in the DVD's from 2010.[/quote]
no looking back....I'm looking forward to next year...really :?
P.S. Johnny - thanks for keeping this thread going. I don't know where the Giants' fans went :shock:[/quote]
I'm still popping in here for updates. I have been so busy I cant even wait for MLB.com's homepage to load, and after seeing the latest, I usually know its just better to stay quiet.
The last game I watched was the Little League World Series. Really. I have had to switch gears to volleyball and PJ20, but I am back to work now where time moves ever so slowwwww.
first 3 game winning streak in two fucking months :shock:
woo-hoo!!!!!
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
the panda is a stud. it's crazy we won it all, when he wasn't even producing. definitely our best player and, I think, a force for years to come.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
if you need a laugh, check out uribe's stats in the first year of his $21M do**ers contract
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Still the coolest fucking ball club on the planet..
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
we didn't deserve to win....but we certainly could have. that stretch against the cubs, astros, pirates, reds (i.e. bottom feeders) killed us. we also came up very small against the fucking d-bags :x
Injuries killed us too. the big ones were posey and freddie...our two best hitters. practically the whole team hit the DL at some point. last year, we were incredibly fortunate with injuries.
our rotation is still top notch. timmy, cain, bummy and hopefully voglesong. I do worry that timmy is getting fed up with the lack of run support :shock:
next year? do NOT resign Beltran unless it's a two year (max) deal, stay away from free agents. put buster, freddy, panda, nate and cody out there. start with Huff, but put him on a very short leash. if he doesn't cut it, it's belt's job. give pill a better look too. keep as much as the bullpen as possible, especially Lopez.
and remember......we are STILL World Champs! ...and we finished ahead of the dod*ers
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Philly I & II, 16
Denver 22
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Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Philly I & II, 16
Denver 22
0
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You're not really "DEFENDING" anymore. Players can't defend anything sitting on their couches watching the playoffs on TV.
Spectrum 10/27/09; New Orleans JazzFest 5/1/10; Made in America 9/2/12; Phila, PA 10/21/13; Phila, PA 10/22/13; Baltimore Arena 10/27/13; Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22; Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
You're not really "DEFENDING" anymore. Players can't defend anything sitting on their couches watching the playoffs on TV.
don't give those fucking yankees fans any ideas.
If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Comments
Cole Hamels 2010
12-11 3.06 ERA, 211 K's, 61 BB
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Did you expect me to actually read your post?
Anyways, their park-adjusted ERA's are probably about the same.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Slowly shaking head...
Looks like it's time for you guys to pop in the DVD's from 2010.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
P.S. Johnny - thanks for keeping this thread going. I don't know where the Giants' fans went :shock:
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
I just like talking baseball. It's the best. I'm always talking in the threads of the teams that beat us the last two years. :?
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Dude, I like you, but as for the rest of these clowns....man, talk about fair weather. Absolutely terrible.
Not puffin' those chests anymore, other dudes, huh?
Where's FearTheBeard? The only thing about that beard I would fear is cooties.
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Haha, don't worry baby. I'm still here! Didn't know I needed to have thousands of posts, I've got better things to do.
Anyways, it's been a rough patch for the boys. Injury, Showtime series, injury, injury. Can't ask for much if all that happens. Wonder if the Showtime show is a curse like being on the cover of Madden?
I'm not even close to fair weather. Going to watch a sweet matchup between Lincecum and Kershaw (actually might deserve the Cy Young)
Phuck the Phils!
Peace
just not much to talk about...a shitty season, like so many other shitty seasons....mid season trades and injuries just killed the clubhouse chemistry.
I'm waiting for our season to be over so I can root AGAINST certain teams in the playoffs...would like to see the d-bags, braves, yanks, sox and rangers gone in a hurry!
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
quite a few just over 3 or under 3 with either a losing record or a less that steller record
Timmy 2.75 12-12
Kuroda 3.18 11-15
Zimmermann 3.18 8-11
Hellickson 2.9 12-10
Masterson 3.01 11-9
Fister 3.17 7-13
Santana 3.18 11-10
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Looks like it's time for you guys to pop in the DVD's from 2010.[/quote]
no looking back....I'm looking forward to next year...really :?
P.S. Johnny - thanks for keeping this thread going. I don't know where the Giants' fans went :shock:[/quote]
I'm still popping in here for updates. I have been so busy I cant even wait for MLB.com's homepage to load, and after seeing the latest, I usually know its just better to stay quiet.
The last game I watched was the Little League World Series. Really. I have had to switch gears to volleyball and PJ20, but I am back to work now where time moves ever so slowwwww.
woo-hoo!!!!!
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Yeeyah!! Win streak! Watch us pull this out
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Agreed! He just hit 2 homers in the same inning. We may be 4 games back after today and there is one series left with the D Bags!
Sandoval may have just pushed me into my fantasy baseball final as well
I'm afraid it's over
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Stop being a quitter!
On a side note, if Kershaw doesn't win the Cy Young something is terribly wrong with America's pastime.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
we didn't deserve to win....but we certainly could have. that stretch against the cubs, astros, pirates, reds (i.e. bottom feeders) killed us. we also came up very small against the fucking d-bags :x
Injuries killed us too. the big ones were posey and freddie...our two best hitters. practically the whole team hit the DL at some point. last year, we were incredibly fortunate with injuries.
our rotation is still top notch. timmy, cain, bummy and hopefully voglesong. I do worry that timmy is getting fed up with the lack of run support :shock:
next year? do NOT resign Beltran unless it's a two year (max) deal, stay away from free agents. put buster, freddy, panda, nate and cody out there. start with Huff, but put him on a very short leash. if he doesn't cut it, it's belt's job. give pill a better look too. keep as much as the bullpen as possible, especially Lopez.
and remember......we are STILL World Champs!
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Phila, PA 4/28/16; Phila, PA 4/29/16; Fenway Park 8/7/16; Fenway Park 9/2/18; Asbury Park 9/18/21; Camden 9/14/22;
Las Vegas 5/16/24; Las Vegas 5/18/24; Phila, PA 9/7/24; Phila, PA 9/9/24; Baltimore Arena 9/12/24
Tres Mtns - TLA 3/23/11; EV - Tower Theatre 6/25/11; Temple of the Dog - Tower Theatre 11/5/16
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14