'06 was a full tour. I personally don't know how it was announced as I joined in June '06, but what you're trying to defend here doesn't work because that wasn't a 'few city' tour like last year.
You dont know how the 06 tour was announced?????
Then why are we even having this conversation???????
Like I said...
It has been this way for YEARS.......
Yet you overlook the very important fact that '06 was a FULL TOUR!!
'06 was a full tour. I personally don't know how it was announced as I joined in June '06, but what you're trying to defend here doesn't work because that wasn't a 'few city' tour like last year.
You dont know how the 06 tour was announced?????
Then why are we even having this conversation???????
Like I said...
It has been this way for YEARS.......
Yet you overlook the very important fact that '06 was a FULL TOUR!!
Overlook the fact???
WTF are you talking about???
WTF is your point?????
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
The 2006 tour was the start of their piecemeal tour announcements. Announcing one leg a time so everyone freaks out and buys all the tickets. And then they announce Leg 2 and so on.
And 2006 was not a full tour. Of the world, yes. But of the US, hardly. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
The 2006 tour was the start of their piecemeal tour announcements. Announcing one leg a time so everyone freaks out and buys all the tickets. And then they announce Leg 2 and so on.
I miss 2003.
Thank You....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
The 2006 tour was the start of their piecemeal tour announcements. Announcing one leg a time so everyone freaks out and buys all the tickets. And then they announce Leg 2 and so on.
I miss 2003.
Thank You....
The last time this band put on a full tour of the United States was 2003. And the whole fucking tour was announced at once. I don't understand how anyone can argue this point.
WTF are you talking about???
WTF is your point?????
they at least announced entire legs, and not 1-2 shows every other week. we knew other legs would be coming in 06. 09 we had ZERO insight into what was being planned.
the 10c was never designed to operate as a business-profit, and thus maximum efficiency, were never the goals
if the band is playing a concert somewhere, we will hear about it and have a shot at the best seats in the house (except for festivals) when and if it happens
really, thats all there is to it.
don't forget that 10c gets their info from the band (kelly curtis) so blaming 10c for lack of info is silly
WTF are you talking about???
WTF is your point?????
they at least announced entire legs, and not 1-2 shows every other week. we knew other legs would be coming in 06. 09 we had ZERO insight into what was being planned.
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
riiiight. like the mythical 06 southern leg? and the first leg may have been announced at once but the second leg was pretty piecemeal if I remember correctly....
I agree 09 we had zero insight. things have only gone downhill in this regard since 06, IMO>
the 10c was never designed to operate as a business-profit, and thus maximum efficiency, were never the goals
if the band is playing a concert somewhere, we will hear about it and have a shot at the best seats in the house (except for festivals) when and if it happens
really, thats all there is to it.
whats the problem?
But they make a profit. Therefore they should follow the same guidelines.
They sell merchandise, tickets are sold through the band directly so they don't deal with any tack on fees, they have poster sales, bootleg sales iphone apps and contests that they don't follow through on (cough, t-shirt design contest). That is all for their profit and our material / musical experience gain (except the contest). We are their most loyal customers. In any other business, if the most loyal customers were treated less than the best the business can give, they'd leave. But you don't leave when you're obsessively attached. 10C knows that.
This is what we expect when we join 10C:
MEMBERSHIP BENEFITS
Our promise to do our darndest to get you the absolute BEST tickets in the house to Pearl Jam shows around the world.
Access to Ten Club members-only merchandise like limited edition silk-screened posters from Pearl Jam tours.
A holiday 45 RPM vinyl single with songs not found anywhere else.
Pearl Jam's full-color printed DEEP Magazine mailed to you
Full access to the Pearl Jam Online Community
Members-only contests and giveaways
10C does do their best with the tickets, it's well worth the $20, and the chance to win the lottery is awesome.
The poster thing, OK.
A 'holiday' single. Well, which holiday is it for 10C??? If it's for Cinco de Mayo, just tell us. We somehow think you mean Christmas, yet you don't live up to this promise, according to your Benefits.
DEEP comes once a year, yes.
Full access to online community, which used to be FREE.
And I already wrote about the supposed contests...that aren't always followed through on. Why aren't you doing your part of the bargain here? Giveaways? WHERE?
WTF are you talking about???
WTF is your point?????
they at least announced entire legs, and not 1-2 shows every other week. we knew other legs would be coming in 06. 09 we had ZERO insight into what was being planned.
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Unless you lived south of the Mason Dixon line. We were told by every single person on this board to wait for the mythical 3rd leg and never got it.
YOUR decision that YOU made....Even though you know damned well there will be more dates announced....
They will announce shows, give you 24-48 hours to make your decision, and then sell the tickets.....
Then a month or so later.....They will announce more shows, and again give you 24-48 hours to make your decision.....
It has been that way for a few years now....You know it....I know it....We all know it...
Right or wrong....It is just the way it is.....
It has not been this way for a few years now Speedy. Only in the last year, has news been piddling out here and there.
WRONG!
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Speedy...c'mon man....you know they are off their game. This is ridiculous and it does not make you less a fan to think so.
Bingo. I completely agree with you.
I love this band to death. I really do. But they have really frustrated me the past couple of years to the point where I give up being passionate about it. I go to some shows, etc. and I have my message pit friends that I love. But beyond that, whatever.
Speedy...c'mon man....you know they are off their game. This is ridiculous and it does not make you less a fan to think so.
And since certain people on this board (not you Sawyer) need to argue with me, just for the sake of arguing. And have a problem with reading comprehension.
I will explain my original post that was directed at you....
I think both You and I know more dates will be announced....
Spending YOUR money to travel to New Orleans may be something you might regret.....
Shows will be announced.....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Speedy...c'mon man....you know they are off their game. This is ridiculous and it does not make you less a fan to think so.
And since certain people on this board (not you Sawyer) need to argue with me, just for the sake of arguing. And have a problem with reading comprehension.
I will explain my original post that was directed at you....
I think both You and I know more dates will be announced....
Spending YOUR money to travel to New Orleans may be something you might regret.....
Shows will be announced.....
Unless you just want to go to New Orleans to party. That's understandable.
Speedy...c'mon man....you know they are off their game. This is ridiculous and it does not make you less a fan to think so.
And since certain people on this board (not you Sawyer) need to argue with me, just for the sake of arguing. And have a problem with reading comprehension.
I will explain my original post that was directed at you....
I think both You and I know more dates will be announced....
Spending YOUR money to travel to New Orleans may be something you might regret.....
Shows will be announced.....
Unless you just want to go to New Orleans to party. That's understandable.
TRUE....
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
If you don't like the system then drop your membership. It's as easy as that. I like how I can get tickets to any show from them and fully enjoy my christmas album!!!!!! You could say their philosophy has rubbed off onto my family. My christmas cards are going out this week!!! Actually they are now call "enjoy the New Year" cards.
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at the risk of sounding, well, RATIONAL, you people are acting like spoiled farking brats. get over yourselves and enjoy the music and benefits we get for our measly $25 (international membership).
some people's children. :roll:
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
If you don't like the system then drop your membership. It's as easy as that. I like how I can get tickets to any show from them and fully enjoy my christmas album!!!!!! You could say their philosophy has rubbed off onto my family. My christmas cards are going out this week!!! Actually they are now call "enjoy the New Year" cards.
you missed the point, completely...regardless of whether a fan opts to renew or drop their 10c membership, there is no noble justification for the piecemeal tour announcements
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at the risk of sounding, well, RATIONAL, you people are acting like spoiled farking brats. get over yourselves and enjoy the music and benefits we get for our measly $25 (international membership).
some people's children. :roll:
Bono has spoken ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
at the risk of sounding, well, RATIONAL, you people are acting like spoiled farking brats. get over yourselves and enjoy the music and benefits we get for our measly $25 (international membership).
some people's children. :roll:
again, this has nothing to do with 10c membership or annual dues, the fact is that the system is flawed, and we as "customers" have the right to express dissatisfaction, which, depending on the amount of value the organization places on its customers, should impact the way in which it operates
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Give it a rest guys. You aren't going to change the way things are run no matter how much dissent.
The best (and most likely only) way to change things, actually, is to speak up about it. It's pretty apparent that the band and management could give two craps less about their fans, and merely care about their finances. You guys REALLY want to change things though? Talk with your wallets - withdraw from the Ten Club if you don't like this. The promise I made to myself is that if I'm feeling as bitter about this poor management at the end of 2010 as I am now, I'll be out of here. Raising prices of everything, and lowering the quality of the services the fan club provides, has ensured much less customer satisfaction in a customer satisfaction business than there ought to be.
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Geez, it's made out to be a matter of life and death on here
I used to think I was a lunatic pearl jam fan
remember when this used to be a hobby
I'll reiterate once again, no matter what the tenclub do these days this fanbase will never be happy. They really have mission impossible. That's been very evident over the last few years where the mood on this board has changed dramatically from fun to that of daily whining threads about everything and anything
tenclub are not perfect, but we'll never know what they are given to work with.
Comments
Overlook the fact???
WTF are you talking about???
WTF is your point?????
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
And 2006 was not a full tour. Of the world, yes. But of the US, hardly. Not by any stretch of the imagination.
I miss 2003. Haven't had a full tour since then.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
The last time this band put on a full tour of the United States was 2003. And the whole fucking tour was announced at once. I don't understand how anyone can argue this point.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
don't forget that 10c gets their info from the band (kelly curtis) so blaming 10c for lack of info is silly
my opinion is that after watching complaint after complaint about 10c that some people are just miserable and need to complain
riiiight. like the mythical 06 southern leg? and the first leg may have been announced at once but the second leg was pretty piecemeal if I remember correctly....
I agree 09 we had zero insight. things have only gone downhill in this regard since 06, IMO>
They sell merchandise, tickets are sold through the band directly so they don't deal with any tack on fees, they have poster sales, bootleg sales iphone apps and contests that they don't follow through on (cough, t-shirt design contest). That is all for their profit and our material / musical experience gain (except the contest). We are their most loyal customers. In any other business, if the most loyal customers were treated less than the best the business can give, they'd leave. But you don't leave when you're obsessively attached. 10C knows that.
This is what we expect when we join 10C:
10C does do their best with the tickets, it's well worth the $20, and the chance to win the lottery is awesome.
The poster thing, OK.
A 'holiday' single. Well, which holiday is it for 10C??? If it's for Cinco de Mayo, just tell us. We somehow think you mean Christmas, yet you don't live up to this promise, according to your Benefits.
DEEP comes once a year, yes.
Full access to online community, which used to be FREE.
And I already wrote about the supposed contests...that aren't always followed through on. Why aren't you doing your part of the bargain here? Giveaways? WHERE?
Now how about some answers???
Unless you lived south of the Mason Dixon line. We were told by every single person on this board to wait for the mythical 3rd leg and never got it.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Bingo. I completely agree with you.
I love this band to death. I really do. But they have really frustrated me the past couple of years to the point where I give up being passionate about it. I go to some shows, etc. and I have my message pit friends that I love. But beyond that, whatever.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
The way the tours are announced sucks monkey balls.....
But it has been the same way FOR YEARS!
Right??
And I dont see it changing......
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
I will explain my original post that was directed at you....
I think both You and I know more dates will be announced....
Spending YOUR money to travel to New Orleans may be something you might regret.....
Shows will be announced.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
Unless you just want to go to New Orleans to party. That's understandable.
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
some people's children. :roll:
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
you missed the point, completely...regardless of whether a fan opts to renew or drop their 10c membership, there is no noble justification for the piecemeal tour announcements
Bono has spoken
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
again, this has nothing to do with 10c membership or annual dues, the fact is that the system is flawed, and we as "customers" have the right to express dissatisfaction, which, depending on the amount of value the organization places on its customers, should impact the way in which it operates
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Not really sure there is even a business plan...
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We will get
What we get
When we get it...
And that's how I do it :P
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"How I choose to feel is how I am." ~ EV/MMc
"Some people hear their own inner voices with great clearness and they live by what they hear. Such people become crazy, or they become legends." ~ One Stab ~
I used to think I was a lunatic pearl jam fan
remember when this used to be a hobby
I'll reiterate once again, no matter what the tenclub do these days this fanbase will never be happy. They really have mission impossible. That's been very evident over the last few years where the mood on this board has changed dramatically from fun to that of daily whining threads about everything and anything
tenclub are not perfect, but we'll never know what they are given to work with.
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