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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    crazypjfan wrote:
    The cowboys are gonna eat up that D run by your O line coach. That's all I gotta say...

    Hey you - you can't come in here saying stuff like that... oh wait you're right. Fuck.

    I was at the Phils game dawdling in a concourse for 2 hours and didn't see any of this. I did hear some Steelers fan gloating about an INT in the bathroom and I happily reminded him that, you know, the game doesn't count.

    doesn't help that we have a 120 pound chick as our middle linebacker. :? :lol:

    it is amazing how this team has undervalued this position for well over a decade now....even in a year when they loaded up as much as they have. i've never understood that philosophy. they want this defense to be similiar to the packers defense last year, going nickle so often...only problem is we have the wrong brother at middle lb.

    like i said in the nfl thread before, i think this team should eventually be pretty damn good. but with so many new guys and a new staff on d (lead by a god damn o-line coach) it's gonna take time to come together.

    3rd preseason game is always the most important one. i'm sure they will come out looking sharper next week.
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  • The Fixer
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    these preseason games mean nothing. absolutely nothing. only thing that matters is that players don't get hurt.

    eagles didn't dress half of their defensive line last night. they will be fine.
  • The Juggler
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    the results count for shit.

    but like you said last night ,fixer, being outplayed as poorly as they were means they have a lot of work to do....

    that was not pretty. let's hope they look more crisp next week. and they should.
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  • The Fixer
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    the results count for shit.

    but like you said last night ,fixer, being outplayed as poorly as they were means they have a lot of work to do....

    that was not pretty. let's hope they look more crisp next week. and they should.

    yeah, lots of new guys and new coaches. I wouldn't read into how they look in these games. reid will have them ready for STL.

    my biggest concern remains under center
  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    the results count for shit.

    but like you said last night ,fixer, being outplayed as poorly as they were means they have a lot of work to do....

    that was not pretty. let's hope they look more crisp next week. and they should.

    yeah, lots of new guys and new coaches. I wouldn't read into how they look in these games. reid will have them ready for STL.

    my biggest concern remains under center

    that is not even near the top of my list for concerns with this team...unless you base it on how he looked last night :lol:

    casey mathews was just awful last night though. the lb's are a definite concern.

    all about execution in preseason. and there was none of it last night. they'll look better next week.
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  • Horos
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    The Fixer wrote:
    the results count for shit.

    but like you said last night ,fixer, being outplayed as poorly as they were means they have a lot of work to do....

    that was not pretty. let's hope they look more crisp next week. and they should.

    yeah, lots of new guys and new coaches. I wouldn't read into how they look in these games. reid will have them ready for STL.

    my biggest concern remains under center
    Young will start before the end of the season. Either due to injury or ineptness(?)
    #FHP
  • The Juggler
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    Horos wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    the results count for shit.

    but like you said last night ,fixer, being outplayed as poorly as they were means they have a lot of work to do....

    that was not pretty. let's hope they look more crisp next week. and they should.

    yeah, lots of new guys and new coaches. I wouldn't read into how they look in these games. reid will have them ready for STL.

    my biggest concern remains under center
    Young will start before the end of the season. Either due to injury or ineptness(?)

    well if it's due to the latter, that may mark the end of the reid regime...
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Horos wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    the results count for shit.

    but like you said last night ,fixer, being outplayed as poorly as they were means they have a lot of work to do....

    that was not pretty. let's hope they look more crisp next week. and they should.

    yeah, lots of new guys and new coaches. I wouldn't read into how they look in these games. reid will have them ready for STL.

    my biggest concern remains under center
    Young will start before the end of the season. Either due to injury or ineptness(?)

    young is horrendous. I don't know how the guy has had any success in the NFL. He blows
  • cowboypjfan
    cowboypjfan Posts: 2,453
    Well, if Juan says so...

    Eagles’ Castillo says LBs “will be ready to win the Super Bowl”

    With rookie Casey Matthews, second-year player Jamar Chaney and third-year player Moise Fokou starting at linebacker, the Eagles are inexperienced at the position. But Eagles defensive coordinator Juan Castillo isn’t ready.

    In fact, Castillo believes that by the time the Super Bowl rolls around, no one will be saying the Eagles’ linebackers are inexperienced.

    “The linebackers will be ready to win the Super Bowl,” Castillo said, via Andy Schwartz of CSNPhilly.com. “Remember, it takes 16 weeks, and then really whoever is playing their best during the playoffs. So when you look at it, there’s time to develop. You can say that there’s not, but the key is, who’s playing or fundamentally who’s the best come Week 8, 9, 10 – and during that crunch time. And over the years we’ve been pretty good during that time, and we’ll continue to do that. The young kids will get better just because they’re working the proper fundamentals.”

    So Castillo doesn’t necessarily think the linebackers are ready to win the Super Bowl now. He just thinks they will be five months from now.

    “It takes time to develop kids,” Castillo said. “It’s a process, and it’s our job to develop the kids and make them better.”

    Of course, if it takes too much time to develop, the Eagles won’t be in the playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl. But the Eagles seem to think the rest of their team is good enough that getting to the Super Bowl shouldn’t be a problem.
  • The Juggler
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    crazypjfan wrote:
    Well, if Juan says so...

    Eagles’ Castillo says LBs “will be ready to win the Super Bowl”

    With rookie Casey Matthews, second-year player Jamar Chaney and third-year player Moise Fokou starting at linebacker, the Eagles are inexperienced at the position. But Eagles defensive coordinator Juan Castillo isn’t ready.

    In fact, Castillo believes that by the time the Super Bowl rolls around, no one will be saying the Eagles’ linebackers are inexperienced.

    “The linebackers will be ready to win the Super Bowl,” Castillo said, via Andy Schwartz of CSNPhilly.com. “Remember, it takes 16 weeks, and then really whoever is playing their best during the playoffs. So when you look at it, there’s time to develop. You can say that there’s not, but the key is, who’s playing or fundamentally who’s the best come Week 8, 9, 10 – and during that crunch time. And over the years we’ve been pretty good during that time, and we’ll continue to do that. The young kids will get better just because they’re working the proper fundamentals.”

    So Castillo doesn’t necessarily think the linebackers are ready to win the Super Bowl now. He just thinks they will be five months from now.

    “It takes time to develop kids,” Castillo said. “It’s a process, and it’s our job to develop the kids and make them better.”

    Of course, if it takes too much time to develop, the Eagles won’t be in the playoffs, let alone the Super Bowl. But the Eagles seem to think the rest of their team is good enough that getting to the Super Bowl shouldn’t be a problem.

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  • The Juggler
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    patterson cleared to play...

    page seems to be beating nate allen out at saftey...

    les bown says ryan harris may not even make the team. king dunlap at rt? :o :x

    aaaaand kirk morrison is actually still out there. says he will make a decision by end of week. depending on how thursday goes, maybe the birds should inquire.
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  • The Fixer
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    patterson cleared to play...

    page seems to be beating nate allen out at saftey...

    les bown says ryan harris may not even make the team. king dunlap at rt? :o :x

    aaaaand kirk morrison is actually still out there. says he will make a decision by end of week. depending on how thursday goes, maybe the birds should inquire.

    I think it's crazy how people are overreacting about casey matthews after one bad half. I'm not saying he's anything special, but he deserves a fair shot. No OTAs, still a rook, and the birds didn't even dress half of their d-line. New coordinator, system, and coaches on defense as well.

    classic overreact if you ask me

    also, I dont think any of these reporters know what the birds are going to do. They always seem to pull of some surprises when the rosters are announced (the first trotter release floored me). I don't waste my time worrying, they're in good hands. Just teach the QB how to make a pre-snap read and call audibles and everything will be fine
  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    patterson cleared to play...

    page seems to be beating nate allen out at saftey...

    les bown says ryan harris may not even make the team. king dunlap at rt? :o :x

    aaaaand kirk morrison is actually still out there. says he will make a decision by end of week. depending on how thursday goes, maybe the birds should inquire.

    I think it's crazy how people are overreacting about casey matthews after one bad half. I'm not saying he's anything special, but he deserves a fair shot. No OTAs, still a rook, and the birds didn't even dress half of their d-line. New coordinator, system, and coaches on defense as well.

    classic overreact if you ask me

    also, I dont think any of these reporters know what the birds are going to do. They always seem to pull of some surprises when the rosters are announced (the first trotter release floored me). I don't waste my time worrying, they're in good hands. Just teach the QB how to make a pre-snap read and call audibles and everything will be fine

    no its not an overreaction to a bad half. it's a reaction to the fact that he's really, really small. he's a 4th round draft pick. he didn't have any ota's, like you said. add in the fact that he was just given the position without making him even compete with anyone and--boom, you've got this reaction.

    qb will be fine. he's in good hands there. if andy and marty know anything, it's how to coach up a quarterback. lb's are a different story right now though. be interesting to see how it goes on thursday.
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  • The Fixer
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    I just think matthews should be given more than one half of preseason football before everyone makes a determination of whehter or not the guy can play.

    I think the defense will be fine. Lot of new pieces...they're just trying to figure out what works. They still have plenty of time. Maybe one of the kids they have at OLB will fit a role and they can move cheyney back to the middle. They know what they're doing...we haven't even seen these guys play yet
  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    I just think matthews should be given more than one half of preseason football before everyone makes a determination of whehter or not the guy can play.

    I think the defense will be fine. Lot of new pieces...they're just trying to figure out what works. They still have plenty of time. Maybe one of the kids they have at OLB will fit a role and they can move cheyney back to the middle. They know what they're doing...we haven't even seen these guys play yet

    juan castillo knows what he's doing? that remains to be seen...

    never said he couldn't play. i just don't like the fact that they just gave him the position and didn't make him compete for it. the competition would have been better for him. i think that would have been a much smarter way of handling things. guy's a 4th round pick, not a top 10 pick.

    the defense better be fine with all the additions they've made. lb's will have to play a big role if they are modeling themselves after the packers though.
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  • The Fixer
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    The Fixer wrote:
    I just think matthews should be given more than one half of preseason football before everyone makes a determination of whehter or not the guy can play.

    I think the defense will be fine. Lot of new pieces...they're just trying to figure out what works. They still have plenty of time. Maybe one of the kids they have at OLB will fit a role and they can move cheyney back to the middle. They know what they're doing...we haven't even seen these guys play yet

    juan castillo knows what he's doing? that remains to be seen...

    never said he couldn't play. i just don't like the fact that they just gave him the position and didn't make him compete for it. the competition would have been better for him. i think that would have been a much smarter way of handling things. guy's a 4th round pick, not a top 10 pick.

    the defense better be fine with all the additions they've made. lb's will have to play a big role if they are modeling themselves after the packers though.

    I dont' think castillo is calling all the shots. I have no proof on this, but it's just what I think. Then again I can't believe he is the DC. I would guess it's a collaborative effort among reid, castillo, and washburn at this point.

    they gave allen the FS spot last year right? same thing. I don't think jobs are decided on during the preseason. The depth chart is set, but nothing is set in stone until the real games start...and even then things change week to week. I don't mind what they're doing with matthews. Throw him in the fire and see what they have...sink or swim.

    GB is a 3-4...not sure where that comp came from
  • The Juggler
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    The Fixer wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I just think matthews should be given more than one half of preseason football before everyone makes a determination of whehter or not the guy can play.

    I think the defense will be fine. Lot of new pieces...they're just trying to figure out what works. They still have plenty of time. Maybe one of the kids they have at OLB will fit a role and they can move cheyney back to the middle. They know what they're doing...we haven't even seen these guys play yet

    juan castillo knows what he's doing? that remains to be seen...

    never said he couldn't play. i just don't like the fact that they just gave him the position and didn't make him compete for it. the competition would have been better for him. i think that would have been a much smarter way of handling things. guy's a 4th round pick, not a top 10 pick.

    the defense better be fine with all the additions they've made. lb's will have to play a big role if they are modeling themselves after the packers though.

    I dont' think castillo is calling all the shots. I have no proof on this, but it's just what I think. Then again I can't believe he is the DC. I would guess it's a collaborative effort among reid, castillo, and washburn at this point.

    they gave allen the FS spot last year right? same thing. I don't think jobs are decided on during the preseason. The depth chart is set, but nothing is set in stone until the real games start...and even then things change week to week. I don't mind what they're doing with matthews. Throw him in the fire and see what they have...sink or swim.

    GB is a 3-4...not sure where that comp came from

    nate allen was going to compete with marlin jackson but he got hurt before training camp started. allen was also a high 2nd round pick and the one we got for donovan (and had a full offseason of ota's)...so naturally more weight was thrown behind him last year than one would think would be thrown behind casey mathews.

    packers played in the nickel over 60% of the time last year with 3 corner''s and 2 lb's on the field. birds are planning on doing something very similar with their situation this year. comparisons have been made since assomugua was signed. :?
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  • The Fixer
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    The Fixer wrote:
    juan castillo knows what he's doing? that remains to be seen...

    never said he couldn't play. i just don't like the fact that they just gave him the position and didn't make him compete for it. the competition would have been better for him. i think that would have been a much smarter way of handling things. guy's a 4th round pick, not a top 10 pick.

    the defense better be fine with all the additions they've made. lb's will have to play a big role if they are modeling themselves after the packers though.

    I dont' think castillo is calling all the shots. I have no proof on this, but it's just what I think. Then again I can't believe he is the DC. I would guess it's a collaborative effort among reid, castillo, and washburn at this point.

    they gave allen the FS spot last year right? same thing. I don't think jobs are decided on during the preseason. The depth chart is set, but nothing is set in stone until the real games start...and even then things change week to week. I don't mind what they're doing with matthews. Throw him in the fire and see what they have...sink or swim.

    GB is a 3-4...not sure where that comp came from

    nate allen was going to compete with marlin jackson but he got hurt before training camp started. allen was also a high 2nd round pick and the one we got for donovan (and had a full offseason of ota's)...so naturally more weight was thrown behind him last year than one would think would be thrown behind casey mathews.

    packers played in the nickel over 60% of the time last year with 3 corner''s and 2 lb's on the field. birds are planning on doing something very similar with their situation this year. comparisons have been made since assomugua was signed. :?

    the eagles have shown over the years that it doesn't matter where you were picked. If you play well, you get on the field. If not you won't. see matt mccoy...quentin caver...etc

    don't sweat the casey matthews stuff. it was one half of a preseason game. not a big deal
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