Should Pearl Jam Play in Israel??
Byrnzie
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What with the speculation about Pearl Jam possibly playing in China these past few days I've been thinking about this question.
If they should play in China - which I believe they should - then why shouldn't they also play in somewhere like Israel?
I figured maybe I was being hypocritical in objecting to performers playing in Israel whilst supporting them playing in China and elsewhere.
So, I've realized that, yes, they should play in Israel.
Why?
If they simply performed there as part of a general tour of the world then I'd object. But If they performed under the umbrella of, say, a peace concert/festival promoting peace or something then I'd see no reason why they shouldn't participate. If the concert involved not just the music, but a broader message, then I'd support it. I.e, if the international solidarity movement - http://palsolidarity.org/ - put on a concert in Israel promoting peace in the region then I'd be all in favour of it.
What better place to promote Middle East peace than Israel?
What better place to promote peace and environmental issues than China?
If they should play in China - which I believe they should - then why shouldn't they also play in somewhere like Israel?
I figured maybe I was being hypocritical in objecting to performers playing in Israel whilst supporting them playing in China and elsewhere.
So, I've realized that, yes, they should play in Israel.
Why?
If they simply performed there as part of a general tour of the world then I'd object. But If they performed under the umbrella of, say, a peace concert/festival promoting peace or something then I'd see no reason why they shouldn't participate. If the concert involved not just the music, but a broader message, then I'd support it. I.e, if the international solidarity movement - http://palsolidarity.org/ - put on a concert in Israel promoting peace in the region then I'd be all in favour of it.
What better place to promote Middle East peace than Israel?
What better place to promote peace and environmental issues than China?
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That too.
Except the Israeli's probably wouldn't let them enter. They'd say that the microphone stands could be used by Hamas to make guns.
nor would they allow palestinians from the territories to attend a pearl jam show so im gonna say no pj should not play israel.
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and i will never forgive them.
rocking in the free world my ass.
If it would have had the same effect as letting a fox into the chicken coop, and if they could have gotten out alive, then no, I'd have no problem with it.
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If they went along and played independently in Israel then it would imply that the band have no problem with Israel's ongoing criminal actions - the occupation, and the blockade of Gaza. Unless they played there on the back of some peace organization then obviously people would question their motives.
If they decided to play a gig in China independently of any peace group, or environmental group, then people would likewise be curious about their motives. As it stands, the Earth Day event in Beijing in April is a sound platform from which to perform, whilst at the same time drawing attention to some important issues.
Though I could be wrong. Like the Rolling Stone's said; 'It's only rock 'n roll'.
the Israelian fans deserve a show in their country,i see how hard they try all this years traveling to see the band all over the globe
ofcourse there is another option...
pearl jam play only in countrys that they arent in war..
then i guess they will never gonna play again,put out nato countries,put out russia with tsetsenia,put out s.america countries has war inside the countrys,put out china with the human rights issue....great...we will listen more old bootlegs i guess
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i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
We don't want their Evolution prediction to come true, now do we?
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
so pearl jam must play only in MARS....where the fuck is the tweet???????
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
So I doubt they'd ever play a place like Israel. And they're probably only going to China (if they do) because it's a large, free, Earth Day festival.
If they did play Israel they better play Palestine too, they both need healing.
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same thing.
fuck zionism.
so why they play in japan???they fuckin bomb pearl harborn!!!!and fuckin germany???they start 2nd world war!!!!!come on...
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which part?
admire me, admire my home, admire my son he is my clone.....israelis should choke on that line..
hell yes they should play gaza.
to the best of my knowledge, pearl jam did not play in japan while they were bombing the fuck out of pearl harbor, and pearl jam didn't exist in the 2nd world war.
the UN consistantly condemns the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories as illegal, and their treatment of the Palestinians as brutal and inhumane. the Palestinians have, and continue to sufffer years of physical and psychological violence and oppression at the hands of Israel.
the US is funding this. WE are funding this.
and it's happening NOW.
not fucking 50 years ago. NOW. i couldn't do or say anything about what happened years ago. i wasn't born then, but i sure as fuck can now, and i will, and i'll çontinue to do so. until it stops.
free Gaza. boycott Israel.
if someone need to boycott israel is companys,markets,weapon industrys..and not music...and be sure Eddier can make something amazing with microphone on stage..
and dont have to add that usa is allies with israel,and not with palestines,,israel has for exable,f-16,american aircraft,and palaistine has russian missles..its a fuckin circle...
i see this a chance for 2 things,,and israelian fans can see their favorite band and the boys make the best peace party ever..
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you know what the best peace party ever would be dimitri????
if palestinians were treated as equals by the oppressive israeli government.
eddie vedder would do NOTHING, let alone anythign amazing, for the peace process if pj played israel. not a god damn thing.
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but just saying about music..music is so unique that put her act into politics..is like pearl jam dont play in a state couse bush was born there..
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do you seriously think the israeli government would allow eddie vedder to say anything against them??? because for him and the band to give any progressive message thats what would have to be done. the israeli government would have to be condemned for their actions and they would never allow that. not to mention the palestinians in the occupied territories would be forbidden to join in such an event.
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too late.. theyve already played connecticut.
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I think Pearl Jam's message is progressive whether or not they come out and specifically condemn the Israeli government. Regardless, I don't see what harm it could do.
So they should play there too, in theory. I'm just saying they should play anywhere and everywhere, and that boycotting Israel won't do a damn thing to change Israeli policy, so why punish the fans??