Should Pearl Jam Play in Israel??

Byrnzie

What with the speculation about Pearl Jam possibly playing in China these past few days I've been thinking about this question.
If they should play in China - which I believe they should - then why shouldn't they also play in somewhere like Israel?
I figured maybe I was being hypocritical in objecting to performers playing in Israel whilst supporting them playing in China and elsewhere.
So, I've realized that, yes, they should play in Israel.

Why?

If they simply performed there as part of a general tour of the world then I'd object. But If they performed under the umbrella of, say, a peace concert/festival promoting peace or something then I'd see no reason why they shouldn't participate. If the concert involved not just the music, but a broader message, then I'd support it. I.e, if the international solidarity movement - http://palsolidarity.org/ - put on a concert in Israel promoting peace in the region then I'd be all in favour of it.

What better place to promote Middle East peace than Israel?
What better place to promote peace and environmental issues than China?

catefrances

they should play gaza.

Byrnzie

catefrances wrote:

they should play gaza.

That too.

Except the Israeli's probably wouldn't let them enter. They'd say that the microphone stands could be used by Hamas to make guns.

catefrances

Byrnzie wrote:

catefrances wrote:

they should play gaza.

That too.

Except the Israeli's probably wouldn't let them enter. They'd say that the microphone stands could be used by Hamas to make guns.

nor would they allow palestinians from the territories to attend a pearl jam show so im gonna say no pj should not play israel.

Byrnzie

Sometimes it just comes down to getting the message across. And if that means performing in the belly of the beast, then so be it.

catefrances

so youd have no qualms about pearl jam playing in nazi germany then??? theoretically speaking of course

TriumphantAngel

all i know, is that if my favorite band that i've loved since i was 12, ever play in Israel while things remain the same, i will see that as them offering support of Israels illegal, brutal occupation and oppression against the Palestinian people.

and i will never forgive them.

rocking in the free world my ass.

Byrnzie

catefrances wrote:

so youd have no qualms about pearl jam playing in nazi germany then??? theoretically speaking of course

If it would have had the same effect as letting a fox into the chicken coop, and if they could have gotten out alive, then no, I'd have no problem with it.

theanswersarefatal

no. it's too dangerous.

toodee

Pearl Jam played Singapore in early 1995, and that country's human rights record has been criticized by Amnesty International (among others). I don't remember any backlash from this concert, so why would there be any backlash from a concert in Isreal, China or North Korea? (yeah, I'm exaggerating with that last one )

Byrnzie

toodee wrote:

Pearl Jam played Singapore in early 1995, and that country's human rights record has been criticized by Amnesty International (among others). I don't remember any backlash from this concert, so why would there be any backlash from a concert in Isreal, China or North Korea? (yeah, I'm exaggerating with that last one )

If they went along and played independently in Israel then it would imply that the band have no problem with Israel's ongoing criminal actions - the occupation, and the blockade of Gaza. Unless they played there on the back of some peace organization then obviously people would question their motives.
If they decided to play a gig in China independently of any peace group, or environmental group, then people would likewise be curious about their motives. As it stands, the Earth Day event in Beijing in April is a sound platform from which to perform, whilst at the same time drawing attention to some important issues.

Though I could be wrong. Like the Rolling Stone's said; 'It's only rock 'n roll'. ...and there's a lot more to the band than just their political conscience/views, and not everything can, or should, be reduced to politics.

dimitrispearljam

being stupid,make war,have bad goverment, can happen to anyone and all that have nothing to do with nationality...
the Israelian fans deserve a show in their country,i see how hard they try all this years traveling to see the band all over the globe
ofcourse there is another option...
pearl jam play only in countrys that they arent in war..
then i guess they will never gonna play again,put out nato countries,put out russia with tsetsenia,put out s.america countries has war inside the countrys,put out china with the human rights issue....great...we will listen more old bootlegs i guess

_

I think they should play anywhere & everywhere they have fans & can travel to & from safely. I don't think all people of a country should be punished for the policies of their government. (If they took that approach, they shouldn't be playing in the US either.) I also don't think they have enough power to affect positive political change by refusing to play a concert. (On the other hand, PLAYING a concert would give them a platform to get their message across to the Israeli people.)

Pepe Silvia

i doubt most Palestinians would be able to afford the ticket and if it wasn't in their allowed zones would they even be able to go?

CJMST3K

catefrances wrote:

they should play gaza.

We don't want their Evolution prediction to come true, now do we?

fuck

If Pearl Jam played Israel I'd probably cancel my fanclub membership. Israel should be boycotted.

dimitrispearljam

_outlaw wrote:

If Pearl Jam played Israel I'd probably cancel my fanclub membership. Israel should be boycotted.

ALL the nato countries must,all the arabic too that have nucks ,all the ones has civil wars.
so pearl jam must play only in MARS....where the fuck is the tweet???????

Jeanwah

Where PJ plays is based on where they will get a full house. Just look at the South, even the band members have said they don't play there much because they don't sell a lot of tickets, which means they eat the costs. Money and sales, otherwise, they won't play (festivals seem to prove to sell well...)

So I doubt they'd ever play a place like Israel. And they're probably only going to China (if they do) because it's a large, free, Earth Day festival.

g under p

_outlaw wrote:

If Pearl Jam played Israel I'd probably cancel my fanclub membership. Israel should be boycotted.

If they did play Israel they better play Palestine too, they both need healing.

peace

dimitrispearljam

Jeanwah wrote:

Where PJ plays is based on where they will get a full house. Just look at the South, even the band members have said they don't play there much because they don't sell a lot of tickets, which means they eat the costs. Money and sales, otherwise, they won't play (festivals seem to prove to sell well...)

So I doubt they'd ever play a place like Israel. And they're probably only going to China (if they do) because it's a large, free, Earth Day festival.

yes..they come to Greece after 4 years we collecting signatures..and didi music(the company organize it in Greece) did the biggest campaine in her hiostory about pearl jam concert...and was a full house

Commy

pearljam should not play in israel, its like playing in aparthied south afirca, supporting a racist regime.




same thing.



fuck zionism.