Should Pearl Jam Play in Israel??

dimitrispearljam

i dont get why u people dont think the fans.....u judge people from nationality..dont get it..pearl jam dont play israel couse of what israel goverment does...so what that means???that the fans of israel are bad people,they are evil?theyshould stop being a fan?
so why they play in japan???they fuckin bomb pearl harborn!!!!and fuckin germany???they start 2nd world war!!!!!come on...

Commy

CJMST3K wrote:

catefrances wrote:

they should play gaza.

We don't want their Evolution prediction to come true, now do we?

which part?


admire me, admire my home, admire my son he is my clone.....israelis should choke on that line..


hell yes they should play gaza.

TriumphantAngel

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont get why u people dont think the fans.....u judge people from nationality..dont get it..pearl jam dont play israel couse of what israel goverment does...so what that means???that the fans of israel are bad people,they are evil?theyshould stop being a fan?
so why they play in japan???they fuckin bomb pearl harborn!!!!and fuckin germany???they start 2nd world war!!!!!come on...

not even close dimitris..

to the best of my knowledge, pearl jam did not play in japan while they were bombing the fuck out of pearl harbor, and pearl jam didn't exist in the 2nd world war.

the UN consistantly condemns the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories as illegal, and their treatment of the Palestinians as brutal and inhumane. the Palestinians have, and continue to sufffer years of physical and psychological violence and oppression at the hands of Israel.

the US is funding this. WE are funding this.

and it's happening NOW.

not fucking 50 years ago. NOW. i couldn't do or say anything about what happened years ago. i wasn't born then, but i sure as fuck can now, and i will, and i'll çontinue to do so. until it stops.

free Gaza. boycott Israel.

dimitrispearljam

TriumphantAngel wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont get why u people dont think the fans.....u judge people from nationality..dont get it..pearl jam dont play israel couse of what israel goverment does...so what that means???that the fans of israel are bad people,they are evil?theyshould stop being a fan?
so why they play in japan???they fuckin bomb pearl harborn!!!!and fuckin germany???they start 2nd world war!!!!!come on...

not even close dimitris..

to the best of my knowledge, pearl jam did not play in japan while they were bombing the fuck out of pearl harbor, and pearl jam didn't exist in the 2nd world war.

the UN consistantly condemns the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories as illegal, and their treatment of the Palestinians as brutal and inhumane. the Palestinians have, and continue to sufffer years of physical and psychological violence and oppression at the hands of Israel.

the US is funding this. WE are funding this.

and it's happening NOW.

not fucking 50 years ago. NOW. i couldn't do or say anything about what happened years ago. i wasn't born then, but i sure as fuck can now, and i will, and i'll çontinue to do so. until it stops.

free Gaza. boycott Israel.

its a fuckin rock concert man,with songs about peace ,love...
if someone need to boycott israel is companys,markets,weapon industrys..and not music...and be sure Eddier can make something amazing with microphone on stage..
and dont have to add that usa is allies with israel,and not with palestines,,israel has for exable,f-16,american aircraft,and palaistine has russian missles..its a fuckin circle...
i see this a chance for 2 things,,and israelian fans can see their favorite band and the boys make the best peace party ever..

catefrances

dimitrispearljam wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont get why u people dont think the fans.....u judge people from nationality..dont get it..pearl jam dont play israel couse of what israel goverment does...so what that means???that the fans of israel are bad people,they are evil?theyshould stop being a fan?
so why they play in japan???they fuckin bomb pearl harborn!!!!and fuckin germany???they start 2nd world war!!!!!come on...

not even close dimitris..

to the best of my knowledge, pearl jam did not play in japan while they were bombing the fuck out of pearl harbor, and pearl jam didn't exist in the 2nd world war.

the UN consistantly condemns the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories as illegal, and their treatment of the Palestinians as brutal and inhumane. the Palestinians have, and continue to sufffer years of physical and psychological violence and oppression at the hands of Israel.

the US is funding this. WE are funding this.

and it's happening NOW.

not fucking 50 years ago. NOW. i couldn't do or say anything about what happened years ago. i wasn't born then, but i sure as fuck can now, and i will, and i'll çontinue to do so. until it stops.

free Gaza. boycott Israel.

its a fuckin rock concert man,with songs about peace ,love...
if someone need to boycott israel is companys,markets,weapon industrys..and not music...and be sure Eddier can make something amazing with microphone on stage..
and dont have to add that usa is allies with israel,and not with palestines,,israel has for exable,f-16,american aircraft,and palaistine has russian missles..its a fuckin circle...
i see this a chance for 2 things,,and israelian fans can see their favorite band and the boys make the best peace party ever..

you know what the best peace party ever would be dimitri????

if palestinians were treated as equals by the oppressive israeli government.

eddie vedder would do NOTHING, let alone anythign amazing, for the peace process if pj played israel. not a god damn thing.

dimitrispearljam

catefrances wrote:

you know what the best peace party ever would be dimitri????

if palestinians were treated as equals by the oppressive israeli government.

eddie vedder would do NOTHING, let alone anythign amazing, for the peace process if pj played israel. not a god damn thing.

i understand your way of thinking,and this will be the best to happen if palestinians be treated as equals
but just saying about music..music is so unique that put her act into politics..is like pearl jam dont play in a state couse bush was born there..

_

I agree that we should do whatvever we can to make the Israeli government change their evil ways. But I just don't see what Pearl Jam refusing to play a rock concert with a progressive message for the people of Israel could possibly accomplish toward that goal.

catefrances

scb wrote:

I agree that we should do whatvever we can to make the Israeli government change their evil ways. But I just don't see what Pearl Jam refusing to play a rock concert with a progressive message for the people of Israel could possibly accomplish toward that goal.

do you seriously think the israeli government would allow eddie vedder to say anything against them??? because for him and the band to give any progressive message thats what would have to be done. the israeli government would have to be condemned for their actions and they would never allow that. not to mention the palestinians in the occupied territories would be forbidden to join in such an event.

catefrances

dimitrispearljam wrote:

catefrances wrote:

you know what the best peace party ever would be dimitri????

if palestinians were treated as equals by the oppressive israeli government.

eddie vedder would do NOTHING, let alone anythign amazing, for the peace process if pj played israel. not a god damn thing.

i understand your way of thinking,and this will be the best to happen if palestinians be treated as equals
but just saying about music..music is so unique that put her act into politics..is like pearl jam dont play in a state couse bush was born there..

too late.. theyve already played connecticut.

_

catefrances wrote:

scb wrote:

I agree that we should do whatvever we can to make the Israeli government change their evil ways. But I just don't see what Pearl Jam refusing to play a rock concert with a progressive message for the people of Israel could possibly accomplish toward that goal.

do you seriously think the israeli government would allow eddie vedder to say anything against them??? because for him and the band to give any progressive message thats what would have to be done. the israeli government would have to be condemned for their actions and they would never allow that.

I think Pearl Jam's message is progressive whether or not they come out and specifically condemn the Israeli government. Regardless, I don't see what harm it could do.

not to mention the palestinians in the occupied territories would be forbidden to join in such an event.

So they should play there too, in theory. I'm just saying they should play anywhere and everywhere, and that boycotting Israel won't do a damn thing to change Israeli policy, so why punish the fans??

Gary Carter

neil jam played Israel in 95. so yes pj should play Israel.

TriumphantAngel

dimitrispearljam wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont get why u people dont think the fans.....u judge people from nationality..dont get it..pearl jam dont play israel couse of what israel goverment does...so what that means???that the fans of israel are bad people,they are evil?theyshould stop being a fan?
so why they play in japan???they fuckin bomb pearl harborn!!!!and fuckin germany???they start 2nd world war!!!!!come on...

not even close dimitris..

to the best of my knowledge, pearl jam did not play in japan while they were bombing the fuck out of pearl harbor, and pearl jam didn't exist in the 2nd world war.

the UN consistantly condemns the Israeli settlements in the occupied territories as illegal, and their treatment of the Palestinians as brutal and inhumane. the Palestinians have, and continue to sufffer years of physical and psychological violence and oppression at the hands of Israel.

the US is funding this. WE are funding this.

and it's happening NOW.

not fucking 50 years ago. NOW. i couldn't do or say anything about what happened years ago. i wasn't born then, but i sure as fuck can now, and i will, and i'll çontinue to do so. until it stops.

free Gaza. boycott Israel.

its a fuckin rock concert man,with songs about peace ,love...
if someone need to boycott israel is companys,markets,weapon industrys..and not music...and be sure Eddier can make something amazing with microphone on stage..
and dont have to add that usa is allies with israel,and not with palestines,,israel has for exable,f-16,american aircraft,and palaistine has russian missles..its a fuckin circle...
i see this a chance for 2 things,,and israelian fans can see their favorite band and the boys make the best peace party ever..

80% of Israelis supported the massacare in Gaza in January when 1400 people were murdered, and considered it a job well done. until people from Israel begin to oppose their own government's oppressive policies, this will never end.

you might think that Eddie can do what human rights groups, the UN and so many other people around the world can't do, but i don't. you really think Eddie can do that? they don't listen to anyone else, so they sure as shit won't listen to Eddie Vedder.

It's only a few weeks ago that thousands of peace activists from all over the world, were at the last minute, not permitted to enter Gaza. for over a year, they had been planning the Gaza Freedom March. the activists had come from far and wide, hoping to join the residents of Gaza in non violent demonstration, and march the Long Mile across Erez checkpoint. it was hopeful the march would be viewed as the first step in a protracted nonviolent campaign.

in the end, only 85 of those participants who had travelled from all over the world, were allowed entry to Gaza. how fair is that? why should Israel get Eddie Vedder (to promote peace as you say, and we all know that won't change a thing), and yet the people of Gaza get fuck all?

the Gaza Freedom march would have been a perfect opportunity for peace to be promoted and they made sure that never happened. so fuck them. unless the fans in the occupied territories get to see them too, then they don't deserve pearl jam. and we know how much chance there is of that happening.

this thread is about how we think and feel about the situation Dimitri. you have your views, i have mine. some things are closer to my heart than others. just how it is.

Jeanwah

catefrances wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

its a fuckin rock concert man,with songs about peace ,love...
if someone need to boycott israel is companys,markets,weapon industrys..and not music...and be sure Eddier can make something amazing with microphone on stage..
and dont have to add that usa is allies with israel,and not with palestines,,israel has for exable,f-16,american aircraft,and palaistine has russian missles..its a fuckin circle...
i see this a chance for 2 things,,and israelian fans can see their favorite band and the boys make the best peace party ever..

you know what the best peace party ever would be dimitri????

if palestinians were treated as equals by the oppressive israeli government.

eddie vedder would do NOTHING, let alone anythign amazing, for the peace process if pj played israel. not a god damn thing.

A peace party also would be Tibetans treated as equals by the oppressive Chinese gov't. PJ may be on the bill to play in China though, and I hardly see how this so-called Peace concert for Earth Day is about Peace while Chinese torments the country next door. I know, people think it would spread awareness...

If PJ were to play Israel? Not only would Eddie do nothing promoting peace in the region, it would probably get the band in hot water. Just sayin'. And the band has become further and further away from being involved politically anything since Obama won. Playing in Israel would land them back in political soup.

dimitrispearljam

TriumphantAngel wrote:

the Gaza Freedom march would have been a perfect opportunity for peace to be promoted and they made sure that never happened. so fuck them. unless the fans in the occupied territories get to see them too, then they don't deserve pearl jam. and we know how much chance there is of that happening.

this thread is about how we think and feel about the situation Dimitri. you have your views, i have mine. some things are closer to my heart than others. just how it is.

i hope u understand that my country is closer to palaistine then usa..be sure that all the Greeks are more close to palaistine people than israelians.we are one of the country that accept the palaistines that leave their homes+media here always mark israel bad action + we make alot demostation in athens for palaisinians right..
the only thing is this...pearl jam is a music rock band..there fans are people that love the band and want to see them
pearl jam in my mind will play in places that are big markets.that they want to promote the backspacer,place fans are crazy for them,places that will have sold out shows,places in the end that they want to visit to see how looks like!!!
they cant choose a place couse ther ar alot of serial kilers,or was a civil war,
u think they dont play in russia couse they bomb chechenia???
panish fans only couse their goverment is bad i dont get it...
the funny would be is that pj boycott israel by not playing there and they buy ipod from BH stores

Jeanwah

dimitrispearljam wrote:

pearl jam in my mind will play in places that are big markets.that they want to promote the backspacer,place fans are crazy for them,places that will have sold out shows,places in the end that they want to visit to see how looks like!!!
they cant choose a place couse ther ar alot of serial kilers,or was a civil war,
u think they dont play in russia couse they bomb chechenia???
panish fans only couse their goverment is bad i dont get it...
the funny would be is that pj boycott israel by not playing there and they buy ipod from BH stores

dimitri, I think you're overlooking the fact that Israel is a dangerous country to travel to right now, let alone organize and play a concert in.

Pepe Silvia

dimitrispearljam wrote:

TriumphantAngel wrote:

the Gaza Freedom march would have been a perfect opportunity for peace to be promoted and they made sure that never happened. so fuck them. unless the fans in the occupied territories get to see them too, then they don't deserve pearl jam. and we know how much chance there is of that happening.

this thread is about how we think and feel about the situation Dimitri. you have your views, i have mine. some things are closer to my heart than others. just how it is.

i hope u understand that my country is closer to palaistine then usa..be sure that all the Greeks are more close to palaistine people than israelians.we are one of the country that accept the palaistines that leave their homes+media here always mark israel bad action + we make alot demostation in athens for palaisinians right..
the only thing is this...pearl jam is a music rock band..there fans are people that love the band and want to see them
pearl jam in my mind will play in places that are big markets.that they want to promote the backspacer,place fans are crazy for them,places that will have sold out shows,places in the end that they want to visit to see how looks like!!!
they cant choose a place couse ther ar alot of serial kilers,or was a civil war,
u think they dont play in russia couse they bomb chechenia???
panish fans only couse their goverment is bad i dont get it...
the funny would be is that pj boycott israel by not playing there and they buy ipod from BH stores

would you be ok if Pearl Jam played South Africa during its apartheid and the venue wouldn't allow any black Pearl Jam fans, only white ones? do you think the crowd would react favorably if the band spoke against that? you're still taking their money and profiting from it!

they could play a country close to Israel where Palestinians could also attend the concert because if they played in Israel they wouldn't be allowed in.

dimitrispearljam

i guess people got they way im thinking,i dont put label to nationality,alot of bad things happen in the world
for sure this gaza big issue must find a peacefull solution and palestinians get their home back ,i hope we dont go back and think to put numbers to israelian people...and up all of that music cant have boarders...

Pepe Silvia

dimitrispearljam wrote:

and up all of that music cant have boarders...

if they played in Israel music WOULD have borders because Palestinians wouldn't be allowed to go

Pepe Silvia

it's nothing against Israeli's, Dimitri, although a shocking number were happy with the massacre over a thousand Palestinians and there was a school a few years ago in Israel that had its kids write letters to the IDF telling them to kill as many arabs as they could and the only good arab is a dead arab....

we're just saying wouldn't it seem odd if say in the 60's if the Beatles had a concert to promote civil rights and only white people were allowed in?

dimitrispearljam

i dont get why only israel is the problem in the whole world..and what ever explanation u give me i have 100 exables too of violence - merders to give u..its endleess the shit in the planet..