Should Pearl Jam Play in Israel??

NoK

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont get why only israel is the problem in the whole world..and what ever explanation u give me i have 100 exables too of violence - merders to give u..its endleess the shit in the planet..

No one is saying it is the only problem in the world. Also, just because other parties are guilty does not absolve the former of guilt so there is no point in listing all what is wrong with the world.

TriumphantAngel wrote:

80% of Israelis supported the massacare in Gaza in January when 1400 people were murdered, and considered it a job well done.

Taking this into consideration, then the fact that their is a higher percentage of left-leaning Pearl Jam fans, we can assume that around 60-70% of the people attending the concert supported the massacre of 1400 people that had no way of defending themselves. Yes, great crowd to rock out with! :roll:

To each his own but if Pearl Jam played Israel for commercial purposes and not under the banner of peace I wouldn't let my membership expire by the end of the year, I would ask for it to be revoked immediately. There is a reason I am a member of this band's fan club and that reason is EV and his commitment to humane causes.

Byrnzie

Jeanwah wrote:

I hardly see how this so-called Peace concert for Earth Day is about Peace while Chinese torments the country next door.

The purpose of this 'so-called Peace concert for Earth Day' isn't confined strictly to China. If you read the article above it states that the plan is to broadcast the concert all over the world. Then again, maybe this 'so-called Peace concert for Earth Day' can hardly be about peace while the U.S is busy plundering two countries in the Middle East and supporting ethnic cleansing in another.

Byrnzie

Pepe Silvia wrote:

would you be ok if Pearl Jam played South Africa during its apartheid and the venue wouldn't allow any black Pearl Jam fans, only white ones? do you think the crowd would react favorably if the band spoke against that? you're still taking their money and profiting from it!

they could play a country close to Israel where Palestinians could also attend the concert because if they played in Israel they wouldn't be allowed in.

Good point.

catefrances

Byrnzie wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

would you be ok if Pearl Jam played South Africa during its apartheid and the venue wouldn't allow any black Pearl Jam fans, only white ones? do you think the crowd would react favorably if the band spoke against that? you're still taking their money and profiting from it!

they could play a country close to Israel where Palestinians could also attend the concert because if they played in Israel they wouldn't be allowed in.

Good point.

do you reckon the israelis would allow the palestinians passage to another country???

Byrnzie

catefrances wrote:

Byrnzie wrote:

Pepe Silvia wrote:

would you be ok if Pearl Jam played South Africa during its apartheid and the venue wouldn't allow any black Pearl Jam fans, only white ones? do you think the crowd would react favorably if the band spoke against that? you're still taking their money and profiting from it!

they could play a country close to Israel where Palestinians could also attend the concert because if they played in Israel they wouldn't be allowed in.

Good point.

do you reckon the israelis would allow the palestinians passage to another country???

Actually, no, they probably wouldn't.

badbrains

I've said before and I'll say it now, pearl jam NOT playing Israel is there way of protesting this issue...I believe it'll remain silent in Israel because we all know if Ed had the mic he would say something and that something would be career suicide....just read the book- they dare to speak out. See what happened to all who ever critisized Israel.....

dimitrispearljam

i think i find the solution to the issue..
pearl jam play in Athens - Greece ,so everybody is invited,palestines,israelians...

Pepe Silvia

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont get why only israel is the problem in the whole world..and what ever explanation u give me i have 100 exables too of violence - merders to give u..its endleess the shit in the planet..

not real sure what you are talking about...the thread only mentions Israel so that is the only country i am focusing on, if you want to start a 'should pearl jam play Somalia' thread or something feel free.

also, i seriously doubt you have 100 current examples that are comparable to what Israel is doing

Pepe Silvia

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i think i find the solution to the issue..
pearl jam play in Athens - Greece ,so everybody is invited,palestines,israelians...

now that's a plan!

redrock

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i think i find the solution to the issue..
pearl jam play in Athens - Greece ,so everybody is invited,palestines,israelians...

Not a solution yet, D. The palestinians will not be allowed to travel....

dimitrispearljam

Pepe Silvia wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i dont get why only israel is the problem in the whole world..and what ever explanation u give me i have 100 exables too of violence - merders to give u..its endleess the shit in the planet..

not real sure what you are talking about...the thread only mentions Israel so that is the only country i am focusing on, if you want to start a 'should pearl jam play Somalia' thread or something feel free.

also, i seriously doubt you have 100 current examples that are comparable to what Israel is doing

somalia is dangerous place to be believe me,i lost a friend there 6 months ago..they shout him like a dog in the street

dimitrispearljam

redrock wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i think i find the solution to the issue..
pearl jam play in Athens - Greece ,so everybody is invited,palestines,israelians...

Not a solution yet, D. The palestinians will not be allowed to travel....

nop.they can,,to my country really all are free to come,we accept all with no sent them back,one of the reason eu are anfry with us

NoK

dimitrispearljam wrote:

nop.they can,,to my country really all are free to come,we accept all with no sent them back,one of the reason eu are anfry with us

Your country may allow them to enter but you are assuming they get the chance to leave the West Bank considering the restrictions the Israelis put on them. Here I only talk about the Palestinians of the West Bank because there is no way in hell the Palestinians of Gaza will be allowed so there is no point discussing them. The other issue is that Israelis make it their interest to make a Palestinian's return to the west bank as humiliating as possible so they seek other options, other than returning to their country that is. My own friends have waited in Jordan for a day or two to pass the crossing to the West bank to see their families and then at times stripped searched, their luggage unpacked and several harmless items confiscated just for the sake of it. My friend bought me a kuffiyah from the West bank as a souvenir and as he was leaving, they pulled him aside, searched his bag, confiscated several things from him (including the kuffiyah) and told him to "watch his actions abroad" because we are "keeping an eye on you". Meaning that if he continued to join protests and these kind of things he may be refused entry to the West Bank to see his family. Have you also heard of the families in the West Bank that have been shipped to Gaza and refused entry to the West Bank to see their extended family? Or the families in the West Bank that live in one Palestinian town and are refused entry to another Palestinian town in the West Bank? Yah, those Israelis, great crowd to rock out with!

redrock

dimitrispearljam wrote:

redrock wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i think i find the solution to the issue..
pearl jam play in Athens - Greece ,so everybody is invited,palestines,israelians...

Not a solution yet, D. The palestinians will not be allowed to travel....

nop.they can,,to my country really all are free to come,we accept all with no sent them back,one of the reason eu are anfry with us

The hospitality of the greeks is not in question. Those that make it to your country have 'escaped' and, as long as the situation is as it is, will probably never be able to return to their home.

dimitrispearljam

redrock wrote:

The hospitality of the greeks is not in question. Those that make it to your country have 'escaped' and, as long as the situation is as it is, will probably never be able to return to their home.

and there is not only palestinians..i think in greece the people from pakistan must be like 300.000..
more than 1.000.000 albanians..the last year more than 100 people die in aegean sea ,trying to come in Greece..is a shit what happen in those countries..thats my thought from the beggining ..isnt only israel,i guess israel is in the 1st line couse news play them more..

battan1120

uh no...they should play here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0BznyjqEt8

catefrances

dimitrispearljam wrote:

nop.they can,,to my country really all are free to come,we accept all with no sent them back,one of the reason eu are anfry with us

youre missing the point dimitris. if pj were to play in israel, the palestinians would not be allowed to attend... IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. a country that is slowly but steadily being stolen from underneath their feet. other countries hospitality is irrelevant.

TriumphantAngel

why do we give $3 billion to Israel and $300 million to Africa?
-Eddie Vedder

it's seems to be a valid question. i would love for Eddie or the band to attach their name to the cause.

boycott Israel. free Palestine.

yosi

badbrains wrote:

I've said before and I'll say it now, pearl jam NOT playing Israel is there way of protesting this issue...I believe it'll remain silent in Israel because we all know if Ed had the mic he would say something and that something would be career suicide....just read the book- they dare to speak out. See what happened to all who ever critisized Israel.....

Yes, yes of course you're right! Because the Jews control the media, and the banks, and the large corporations, and most of the governments! ARE YOU SERIOUS! I feel like it's 1900 in czarist Russia.

badbrains

Come on man, yah im serious. Read the book. You seem to be someone of smart intel. I read it. Got a lot of information. If you've read it, I would love to hear your objections.