I'd respectfully like to ask a question coming from a neutral outsider.
What exactly did you win?
Most of you (on this forum) seem very well educated on these issues, and I'd like some insight.
Can someone breifly explain to me why such a great country wouldn't want healthcare reform? I see all of the protests against healthcare - and I guess I just don't get it.
When I lived in the US, my daughter had to go to the emergency room because of a simple accident and it cost me thousands out of pocket. Coming from Canada, that was a shock to the system.
Again - I am not trying to be disrespectful of your Country, I am just curious.
they did not win a damn thing. see my post earlier on page 4 talking about senate procedures.
i guess all it proves is you can never underestimate stupid people in large groups. healthcare should be a right, yet people constantly vote against their own interests to protect the large insurance companies that are bending them over a barrel with no lube... i will never understand it. we pay premiums and expect the insurance company to pay our bills when we get sick but they will do whatever they can to avoid payment. it is a racket of the worst sort.
i had a friend go to the er a few weeks ago for a knee injury. he was billed $47 for an ACE wrap. the same ACE wrap he could have bought for $5 at the local drug store. the insurance company said it was not indicated for his condition, which is a load of sht because when you have a swollen knee you use a compression wrap to help get rid of the swelling. see, they will avoid payment at all costs...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I'd respectfully like to ask a question coming from a neutral outsider.
What exactly did you win?
Most of you (on this forum) seem very well educated on these issues, and I'd like some insight.
Can someone breifly explain to me why such a great country wouldn't want healthcare reform? I see all of the protests against healthcare - and I guess I just don't get it.
When I lived in the US, my daughter had to go to the emergency room because of a simple accident and it cost me thousands out of pocket. Coming from Canada, that was a shock to the system.
Again - I am not trying to be disrespectful of your Country, I am just curious.
There is nothing wrong with Healthcare reform. What we don't want is this socialized medicine, government run, Obama-Care garbage.
How exactly is the reform bill "socialized medicine & government run"? Specifics, please.
I think that this bill is a waste of money, and in it's water-down lobbyist written from will not do that much to improve our healthcare, but all calling it socialist and government run does is prove that you have no idea what's in it, but instead listen to political blowhards and old talking points.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
It's like showing up at a soup kitchen for a free meal, but having a cell phone.....
What is wrong with that? if the guy has a LCD TV, a playstation and other crap, then I'd agree, but a phone? Say he's out of work and trying to find a job... what does he write on the application for contact info? Leave me a letter taped to the third lamp post on maple ave?
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Secondly, people don't want to be responsible for themselves. You don't NEED a flat screen TV, you want it. You NEED healthcare. People spend their money on want they want, then want someone to give them what the NEED. It's like showing up at a soup kitchen for a free meal, but having a cell phone.....
Well it was probably free. Everyone that has a phone and pays their bill also pays a tax for cell phones for those on welfare.
We won the seat that was held for 46 years by a Kennedy, the Liberal Lion, the author of government run health care. We showed those that think they can tax and spend at reckless abandon will have to now answer for it. No job in Congress is safe. The people in this country regained some power, and the people have spoken.
Now that Brown has won I'm going to start donating to John Dennis and HOPE that he can pull out a huge miracle.
Why anyone would donate to these scumbag politicians (either party) is beyond me. Why not donate to something worthwhile like the Iraq War veterans or the victims of the earthquake in Haiti?
DC-9/24/96
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
I personally have sent numerous care packages for the guys fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. I donated blood for Haiti.
I want Nancy Pelosi out of office, and my money is going to help John Dennis do that.
Well thats awesome that you already did some things for the guys fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, and also donated blood for the victims of Haiti. But do you really think that your donation to a politician is going to help them win an election? I dont.
DC-9/24/96
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
We showed those that think they can tax and spend at reckless abandon will have to now answer for it. No job in Congress is safe. The people in this country regained some power, and the people have spoken.
Call me a cynic, but I don't think this was for or against any political philosophy... It's a vote against the new status quo and those in power doing a terrible job. Obama and the dems ran against Bush and the years of ineptitude of the republican party. Now the tables are turning back against Obama and the dems because of their poor job... republicans will gain a bunch of seats over the next few elections (and probably the presidency if they can find a decent candidate), and then when the republicans show their ineptitude again, the dems will start gaining power back.
All the time, another decade will go by with shitty government, more spending and crappy politicians who's only notable skill is raising money for themselves and their friends.
On a side note, I hope the fiscally conservative candidates win all of the congressional senate seats (however I doubt that there really are many fiscally conservative candidates once they get elected), and Obama wins re-election. In my opinion, a democratic president and a fiscally conservative legislature is the best. But in these hyper-partisan days, nothing would probably get accomplished then anyway.
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I'd respectfully like to ask a question coming from a neutral outsider.
What exactly did you win?
I was going to say the same thing. What do you people think you won, exactly??
Ok, let me clarify. Sorry for the late response for this but I was traveling to the west coast all day yesterday. For people that don't live in Massachusetts it's tough to understand. What we won yesterday was, whether real or perceived, was the ability to have both sides of the aisle heard. I myself, as well as a lot of family and friends, have become very disenfranchised with the Democratic status quo in this state. People have had enough. If Teddy were still alive, he'd run for reelection in 2 years and get 85 percent. This election has restored my faith in the power of voting. Many of us in Massachusetts feel that our vote doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things because it's an automatic blue state. Whether voting red or blue, our vote never really seemed to matter. This time, it did. As I said before, I have voted for both Dems and Republicans, but without both sides' voices being heard, it become an extremelty stagnant political landscape. That's what we won.
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
This election proves one thing... that the Democratic leadership in Massachusetts SUCKS. It pretty much always has sucked. It's a corrupt one party state here, and that's mainly what people were rebelling against yesterday. I don't think Scott Brown takes the issues I care about seriously, but neither do the Dems here, and at least Brown doesn't have the smugness that the entrenched Dems have. So while I voted on the issues, I don't exactly blame people for voting for Brown. In fact, with the huge exception of Mitt Romney, I have generally kinda liked the Republicans in this state... Bill Weld, Paul Celluci... I'll take them over John Kerry and Martha Coakely, just on a personal level.
I'm an independant MA voter and I can tell you in the next election for governor, I'm voting for the Republican Charlie Baker. This governor we have now is far and away the WORST politician I have ever seen. This is a guy who paid $27,000 for drapes in his office and bought a $70,000 Cadillac with taxpayers money. (He got so much shit for it that he ended up re-imbursing the money for the car but only after constant media scrutiny and public outrage.) He lays off thousands of state employees and then gives pay raises and six figure jobs to friends and campaign supporters. He is defiant and cannot wait to cast my vote against him.
I'm an independant MA voter and I can tell you in the next election for governor, I'm voting for the Republican Charlie Baker. This governor we have now is far and away the WORST politician I have ever seen. This is a guy who paid $27,000 for drapes in his office and bought a $70,000 Cadillac with taxpayers money. (He got so much shit for it that he ended up re-imbursing the money for the car but only after constant media scrutiny and public outrage.) He lays off thousands of state employees and then gives pay raises and six figure jobs to friends and campaign supporters. He is defiant and cannot wait to cast my vote against him.
You think that's bad? Here in NY, we have a governor who spent $38,000 on rugs for the governors mansion (including 2 area rugs for $21,000)... and he's blind! How does he even know that they are nice rugs?!?!?
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Nice new avatar Cropduster82...that Bad Santa one was a little outdated at this point.
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
Ok, let me clarify. Sorry for the late response for this but I was traveling to the west coast all day yesterday. For people that don't live in Massachusetts it's tough to understand. What we won yesterday was, whether real or perceived, was the ability to have both sides of the aisle heard. I myself, as well as a lot of family and friends, have become very disenfranchised with the Democratic status quo in this state. People have had enough. If Teddy were still alive, he'd run for reelection in 2 years and get 85 percent. This election has restored my faith in the power of voting. Many of us in Massachusetts feel that our vote doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things because it's an automatic blue state. Whether voting red or blue, our vote never really seemed to matter. This time, it did. As I said before, I have voted for both Dems and Republicans, but without both sides' voices being heard, it become an extremelty stagnant political landscape. That's what we won.
So you feel you "won" because you voted in the other party? Which is essentially the same as the old party? The two party system is basically one big party that does not work for the people.
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Ok, let me clarify. Sorry for the late response for this but I was traveling to the west coast all day yesterday. For people that don't live in Massachusetts it's tough to understand. What we won yesterday was, whether real or perceived, was the ability to have both sides of the aisle heard. I myself, as well as a lot of family and friends, have become very disenfranchised with the Democratic status quo in this state. People have had enough. If Teddy were still alive, he'd run for reelection in 2 years and get 85 percent. This election has restored my faith in the power of voting. Many of us in Massachusetts feel that our vote doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things because it's an automatic blue state. Whether voting red or blue, our vote never really seemed to matter. This time, it did. As I said before, I have voted for both Dems and Republicans, but without both sides' voices being heard, it become an extremelty stagnant political landscape. That's what we won.
So you feel you "won" because you voted in the other party? Which is essentially the same as the old party? The two party system is basically one big party that does not work for the people.
...And at the same time do everything in their power to benefit themselves. Our Congress people perks are just unlimited.
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I'm an independant MA voter and I can tell you in the next election for governor, I'm voting for the Republican Charlie Baker. This governor we have now is far and away the WORST politician I have ever seen. This is a guy who paid $27,000 for drapes in his office and bought a $70,000 Cadillac with taxpayers money. (He got so much shit for it that he ended up re-imbursing the money for the car but only after constant media scrutiny and public outrage.) He lays off thousands of state employees and then gives pay raises and six figure jobs to friends and campaign supporters. He is defiant and cannot wait to cast my vote against him.
You think that's bad? Here in NY, we have a governor who spent $38,000 on rugs for the governors mansion (including 2 area rugs for $21,000)... and he's blind! How does he even know that they are nice rugs?!?!?
Well at least your govenor didn't dissapear and tell everyone he went hiking on the AT. Come to find out he flew down to Brazil because he was having an affair.
But that's a shit load of dough just to spend on area rugs. Hell they could have just gone to Lowes. He never would've known the difference.
I suppose this is the statement that confuses me most. I don't beleive I live in a socialist country, yet I never have to worry about "what if I get sick".
I know I pay a lot of taxes, but I have had three children and in that process spent 7 nights in a private room in a hospital and it cost me a total of $70 and that was for the cable TV.
How has Obama "dis-respected" the Constitution? Isn't he pushing a plan that he promised to push when he was elected?
I love the fact that someone from another country is questioning this. Makes republicans and their opinions seem so silly.
Why is it silly to want to keep the ins. I got. You need to look at the whole picture please. The report that republicans don't care is getting really obnoxious. I would love to see everyone in america get health care while people like myself could keeep there current plan but that is not Obamas agenda.
Ok, let me clarify. Sorry for the late response for this but I was traveling to the west coast all day yesterday. For people that don't live in Massachusetts it's tough to understand. What we won yesterday was, whether real or perceived, was the ability to have both sides of the aisle heard. I myself, as well as a lot of family and friends, have become very disenfranchised with the Democratic status quo in this state. People have had enough. If Teddy were still alive, he'd run for reelection in 2 years and get 85 percent. This election has restored my faith in the power of voting. Many of us in Massachusetts feel that our vote doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things because it's an automatic blue state. Whether voting red or blue, our vote never really seemed to matter. This time, it did. As I said before, I have voted for both Dems and Republicans, but without both sides' voices being heard, it become an extremelty stagnant political landscape. That's what we won.
So you feel you "won" because you voted in the other party? Which is essentially the same as the old party? The two party system is basically one big party that does not work for the people.
The fact that one of the most liberal states in america voted for Brown says ALOT!! Even Obama and his collegues are taking notice to this....why is it so hard for some of you to see this? Chances are, if Ma. feels this way....so doesn't alot of other blue states.
Ok, let me clarify. Sorry for the late response for this but I was traveling to the west coast all day yesterday. For people that don't live in Massachusetts it's tough to understand. What we won yesterday was, whether real or perceived, was the ability to have both sides of the aisle heard. I myself, as well as a lot of family and friends, have become very disenfranchised with the Democratic status quo in this state. People have had enough. If Teddy were still alive, he'd run for reelection in 2 years and get 85 percent. This election has restored my faith in the power of voting. Many of us in Massachusetts feel that our vote doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things because it's an automatic blue state. Whether voting red or blue, our vote never really seemed to matter. This time, it did. As I said before, I have voted for both Dems and Republicans, but without both sides' voices being heard, it become an extremelty stagnant political landscape. That's what we won.
So you feel you "won" because you voted in the other party? Which is essentially the same as the old party? The two party system is basically one big party that does not work for the people.
The fact that one of the most liberal states in america voted for Brown says ALOT!! Even Obama and his collegues are taking notice to this....why is it so hard for some of you to see this? Chances are, if Ma. feels this way....so doesn't alot of other blue states.
Thank you.
"FF, I've heard the droning about the Sawx being the baby dolls. Yeah, I get it, you guys invented baseball and suffered forever. I get it." -JearlPam0925
So you feel you "won" because you voted in the other party? Which is essentially the same as the old party? The two party system is basically one big party that does not work for the people.
The fact that one of the most liberal states in america voted for Brown says ALOT!! Even Obama and his collegues are taking notice to this....why is it so hard for some of you to see this? Chances are, if Ma. feels this way....so doesn't alot of other blue states.
You're not understanding what I'm trying to say. This won't physically make one difference in the grand scheme of things, because the two party system is one grand party; they think alike, they act alike, they enjoy finger pointing while taking no accountability. And they don't WORK for the PEOPLE of this country. We'll see if Brown makes any difference to the state of MA.
The fact that one of the most liberal states in america voted for Brown says ALOT!! Even Obama and his collegues are taking notice to this....why is it so hard for some of you to see this? Chances are, if Ma. feels this way....so doesn't alot of other blue states.
It's not that simple. People here had a lot of different reasons to vote for Brown, with Coakley's pathetic campaign and the corrupt leadership of Mass Dems being the major reasons, I think. Also, we already have a universal-ish health care plan similar to Obama's, and it was signed into law by Mitt Romney.
How has Obama "dis-respected" the Constitution? Isn't he pushing a plan that he promised to push when he was elected?
A better question is "how does he respect it"? No where in the constitution does it state that heathcare is a universal right. No where in the constitution does it say that the productive class needs to support the welfare class.
How exactly is the reform bill "socialized medicine & government run"? Specifics, please.
I think that this bill is a waste of money, and in it's water-down lobbyist written from will not do that much to improve our healthcare, but all calling it socialist and government run does is prove that you have no idea what's in it, but instead listen to political blowhards and old talking points.
How can I simply and clearly explain that the government option will be government run? How it will be subsidized by taxes and put the insurance companies out of business becuase they can't compete. Eventually everyone will be on the "government option". Doctors will be paid peanuts, so our best and brightest will go in to other fields. Eventually our quality of care will be drug down to the rest of the world. The only ones who win by creating a European style welfare state are the liberals that stay in power as the provider of the "free stuff."
All government social programs are complete failures. I will never see a Dime of Social Security. Who on earth thinks it's a good idea to invest your money for someone else now, and get it back later? Or I could just save my own money.
What is wrong with that? if the guy has a LCD TV, a playstation and other crap, then I'd agree, but a phone? Say he's out of work and trying to find a job... what does he write on the application for contact info? Leave me a letter taped to the third lamp post on maple ave?
Regardless of what you may think, A cell phone is a luxary, not a NEED. A family of 4 can have a home phone for $15 a month, instead of 4 cell phones. You could have NO phone, and leave a friend or relative's number. No employer can discriminate because you don't have a phone.
Why is it silly to want to keep the ins. I got. You need to look at the whole picture please. The report that republicans don't care is getting really obnoxious. I would love to see everyone in america get health care while people like myself could keeep there current plan but that is not Obamas agenda.
Another common misconception. You're not going to lose your current insurance.
DC-9/24/96
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
The constitution was written over 200 years ago for christs sake. Do you know what an amendment is?
I'm up with the 2nd. The city of Chicago is going to learn that later this year when the Supreme Court tells them their handgun ban is unconstitutional. But that topic is a whole new thread.
The constitution was written over 200 years ago for christs sake. Do you know what an amendment is?
I'm up with the 2nd. The city of Chicago is going to learn that later this year when the Supreme Court tells them their handgun ban is unconstitutional. But that topic is a whole new thread.
I hope they do. That is what happens when you have a 6 term mayor whose father was the longest serving mayor in Chicago's history. Too much power. How the people of Chicago keep voting him in is beyond me. Then again I live in MA so I don't know too much more about his policies and how he runs the city.
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they did not win a damn thing. see my post earlier on page 4 talking about senate procedures.
i guess all it proves is you can never underestimate stupid people in large groups. healthcare should be a right, yet people constantly vote against their own interests to protect the large insurance companies that are bending them over a barrel with no lube... i will never understand it. we pay premiums and expect the insurance company to pay our bills when we get sick but they will do whatever they can to avoid payment. it is a racket of the worst sort.
i had a friend go to the er a few weeks ago for a knee injury. he was billed $47 for an ACE wrap. the same ACE wrap he could have bought for $5 at the local drug store. the insurance company said it was not indicated for his condition, which is a load of sht because when you have a swollen knee you use a compression wrap to help get rid of the swelling. see, they will avoid payment at all costs...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
How exactly is the reform bill "socialized medicine & government run"? Specifics, please.
I think that this bill is a waste of money, and in it's water-down lobbyist written from will not do that much to improve our healthcare, but all calling it socialist and government run does is prove that you have no idea what's in it, but instead listen to political blowhards and old talking points.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
What is wrong with that? if the guy has a LCD TV, a playstation and other crap, then I'd agree, but a phone? Say he's out of work and trying to find a job... what does he write on the application for contact info? Leave me a letter taped to the third lamp post on maple ave?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Well it was probably free. Everyone that has a phone and pays their bill also pays a tax for cell phones for those on welfare.
We won the seat that was held for 46 years by a Kennedy, the Liberal Lion, the author of government run health care. We showed those that think they can tax and spend at reckless abandon will have to now answer for it. No job in Congress is safe. The people in this country regained some power, and the people have spoken.
Now that Brown has won I'm going to start donating to John Dennis and HOPE that he can pull out a huge miracle.
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
I personally have sent numerous care packages for the guys fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. I donated blood for Haiti.
I want Nancy Pelosi out of office, and my money is going to help John Dennis do that.
Well thats awesome that you already did some things for the guys fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, and also donated blood for the victims of Haiti. But do you really think that your donation to a politician is going to help them win an election? I dont.
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
Call me a cynic, but I don't think this was for or against any political philosophy... It's a vote against the new status quo and those in power doing a terrible job. Obama and the dems ran against Bush and the years of ineptitude of the republican party. Now the tables are turning back against Obama and the dems because of their poor job... republicans will gain a bunch of seats over the next few elections (and probably the presidency if they can find a decent candidate), and then when the republicans show their ineptitude again, the dems will start gaining power back.
All the time, another decade will go by with shitty government, more spending and crappy politicians who's only notable skill is raising money for themselves and their friends.
On a side note, I hope the fiscally conservative candidates win all of the congressional senate seats (however I doubt that there really are many fiscally conservative candidates once they get elected), and Obama wins re-election. In my opinion, a democratic president and a fiscally conservative legislature is the best. But in these hyper-partisan days, nothing would probably get accomplished then anyway.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
You think that's bad? Here in NY, we have a governor who spent $38,000 on rugs for the governors mansion (including 2 area rugs for $21,000)... and he's blind! How does he even know that they are nice rugs?!?!?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
I do have a request for you guys if I may. The next time you run across John Kerry can you ask him how the windsurfing is going?
...And at the same time do everything in their power to benefit themselves. Our Congress people perks are just unlimited.
Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss.....*We Won't Get Fooled Again*
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Well at least your govenor didn't dissapear and tell everyone he went hiking on the AT. Come to find out he flew down to Brazil because he was having an affair.
But that's a shit load of dough just to spend on area rugs. Hell they could have just gone to Lowes. He never would've known the difference.
Why is it silly to want to keep the ins. I got. You need to look at the whole picture please. The report that republicans don't care is getting really obnoxious. I would love to see everyone in america get health care while people like myself could keeep there current plan but that is not Obamas agenda.
The fact that one of the most liberal states in america voted for Brown says ALOT!! Even Obama and his collegues are taking notice to this....why is it so hard for some of you to see this? Chances are, if Ma. feels this way....so doesn't alot of other blue states.
No kidding. Now for those damn Xmas lights.....
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,
http://wolfatthetreeline.blogspot.com/2010/01/tea-drinking-to-alliteration.html
It's not that simple. People here had a lot of different reasons to vote for Brown, with Coakley's pathetic campaign and the corrupt leadership of Mass Dems being the major reasons, I think. Also, we already have a universal-ish health care plan similar to Obama's, and it was signed into law by Mitt Romney.
All government social programs are complete failures. I will never see a Dime of Social Security. Who on earth thinks it's a good idea to invest your money for someone else now, and get it back later? Or I could just save my own money.
Regardless of what you may think, A cell phone is a luxary, not a NEED. A family of 4 can have a home phone for $15 a month, instead of 4 cell phones. You could have NO phone, and leave a friend or relative's number. No employer can discriminate because you don't have a phone.
Another common misconception. You're not going to lose your current insurance.
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
Philly-8/28/98, 8/29/98, 9/1/00, 9/2/00, 4/28/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 10/3/05, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 4/28/16, 4/29/16
Jones Beach-8/25/00
PSU-5/3/03
Irvine-6/2/03
San Diego-6/5/03
Hershey-7/12/03
Reading-10/1/04
The Gorge-9/1/05
Vancouver-9/2/05
AC-9/30/05
E. Rutherford, NJ-6/1/06,6/3/06
Bonnaroo-6/14/08
VA Beach-6/17/08
MSG-5/20/10,5/21/10
Baltimore 10/27/13
I'm up with the 2nd. The city of Chicago is going to learn that later this year when the Supreme Court tells them their handgun ban is unconstitutional. But that topic is a whole new thread.
I hope they do. That is what happens when you have a 6 term mayor whose father was the longest serving mayor in Chicago's history. Too much power. How the people of Chicago keep voting him in is beyond me. Then again I live in MA so I don't know too much more about his policies and how he runs the city.
9/29/04 Boston, 6/28/08 Mansfield, 8/23/09 Chicago, 5/15/10 Hartford
5/17/10 Boston, 10/15/13 Worcester, 10/16/13 Worcester, 10/25/13 Hartford
8/5/16 Fenway, 8/7/16 Fenway
EV Solo: 6/16/11 Boston, 6/18/11 Hartford,