Truth
There is a God
If you pray he will answer you
In his time
Nahh sorry . I was a very devout catholic into my 20's prayed a lot to be saved from the hell I suffered under the church. from sexual abuse from a preist to being beaten by a father who represents nuns to the vatican council. So dont give me your crap about prayers being answered. cause they never were.
It wasnt untill I had faith in myself and my freinds instead of GOD that my life changed that I became the man Im proud to be.
I turned my back on god and found faith in my fellow man.
not in a fictional story designed to control society.
funny isnt it in all areas of the world GODS have developed so that their peoples will do as they are told. so that they will do thy bidding even if its nots gods written will.
just the will of evil men
I am very glad I was not raised in church, fire and brimstone as the way. For some, as yourself this is a hurdle or a hinderance to overcome.
I sought knowledge on my own as an adult instead of the brain washing that takes place for the very young. It has allowed me to have an open mind when it comes to God. More importantly an open heart because this is where you find God.
In my heart I know God is very pleased you have found faith in your fellow man, this more important than our faith in him. Our love for each other is our greatest gift.
It was the evils of man, as always, that hurt you, not God.
God is there for peace and unconditional love and guidance IF you need him. I see it as you turning your back on religion not God because the two are NOT the same.
This I hope one day you will know and you can return to a friend who never left your side.
my response was aimed at the comment about prayer, that he will answer. sorry no, For 20
i begged and pleaded with god to save me.
instead because of the abuse from my father I attempted suicide a few times as a result of that I was sent to talk over my issues with a preist. It was then that he sexually abused me. and thus my piont I prayed and prayed to god and as a result of my trust in him I let a preist do things. yes he was an evil man. But thats my point I begged god to deliver me from the pain I was in and all he did was make it worse ( ifr he exists)
it wasnt untill I actually studied our society and learned of the control religon has had for centuries.
If u want to beleive in stories and fairytalles then go ahead
I certainly wont
and untill we get to a time when we beleive in each other and not a story we were told then maybe the world can move forward
Why would somebody even begin this thread? Looking to get everybody angry? Looking to stir up emotion and drama?
Why was this targeted at Christianity? Surprise, surprise...
I use my story to educate, its not emotive to me anymore. Its just a good example
there are plenty threads about any range of religon here ,why not christians
you know it is a discussion board. and we are discussing
Truth
There is a God
If you pray he will answer you
In his time
Nahh sorry . I was a very devout catholic into my 20's prayed a lot to be saved from the hell I suffered under the church. from sexual abuse from a preist to being beaten by a father who represents nuns to the vatican council. So dont give me your crap about prayers being answered. cause they never were.
It wasnt untill I had faith in myself and my freinds instead of GOD that my life changed that I became the man Im proud to be.
I turned my back on god and found faith in my fellow man.
not in a fictional story designed to control society.
funny isnt it in all areas of the world GODS have developed so that their peoples will do as they are told. so that they will do thy bidding even if its nots gods written will.
just the will of evil men
I am very glad I was not raised in church, fire and brimstone as the way. For some, as yourself this is a hurdle or a hinderance to overcome.
I sought knowledge on my own as an adult instead of the brain washing that takes place for the very young. It has allowed me to have an open mind when it comes to God. More importantly an open heart because this is where you find God.
In my heart I know God is very pleased you have found faith in your fellow man, this more important than our faith in him. Our love for each other is our greatest gift.
It was the evils of man, as always, that hurt you, not God.
God is there for peace and unconditional love and guidance IF you need him. I see it as you turning your back on religion not God because the two are NOT the same.
This I hope one day you will know and you can return to a friend who never left your side.
my response was aimed at the comment about prayer, that he will answer. sorry no, For 20
i begged and pleaded with god to save me.
instead because of the abuse from my father I attempted suicide a few times as a result of that I was sent to talk over my issues with a preist. It was then that he sexually abused me. and thus my piont I prayed and prayed to god and as a result of my trust in him I let a preist do things. yes he was an evil man. But thats my point I begged god to deliver me from the pain I was in and all he did was make it worse ( ifr he exists)
it wasnt untill I actually studied our society and learned of the control religon has had for centuries.
If u want to beleive in stories and fairytalles then go ahead
I certainly wont
and untill we get to a time when we beleive in each other and not a story we were told then maybe the world can move forward
God does not save us from evils we save our self.
I do not believe the existence of God is a fairy tale as I know in my heart from my miracle he does exist.
I do hope you understand I am not pro religion and I differentiate God and religion.
Religion needs a God but God does not need a religion.
I often see that the people who no longer believe were raised in the hypocrisy of religion. They asked God for something that did not happen for them, usually resulting in a trauma as in your case and they no longer believe. They turn their backs.
If you don't need God this is fine but if deep inside there is still a need then one can feel unfulfilled.
I am with you on believing in each other and the importance of learning unconditional love, my belief, this is Gods purpose for us, but remember God didn't make the story you speak of, man did.
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Why was this targeted at Christianity? Surprise, surprise...
...
Hint: Three words...
God
Christ
Bible
(Psssst... check the subject title).
What I meant (and you know what I meant) was why it was going to be an obvious attack on Christianity.
I didn't see Allah or the Koran mentioned, or Buddha, or anything else.
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Please, review Post #1.
Ask that guy why Allah, Mohammed and the Koran was not mentioned. He was looking for arguements so he could 'Spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ'.
If this post was called, "Allah... Mohammed... The Koran..." "What's so unbelievable?", I (and many others here) would be saying the same things about that religion.
I, personally, think religion (with its pre-packaged interpretations, concepts and dogma) is a barrier between me and my God, not a conduit.
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It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
Well, religions have done very well persecuting eachother historically (and currently). The majority of persecuting are done one religion against the other.
As for proof, science evaluates and disproves things. Religions prove nothing, nor do they attempt to do so. They rely on faith and feelings, nothing factual.
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"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
people get angered by it because of people like the OP. He consistently through this thread looked down on others as if he had all the answers to life because he has "found the way through Christ".
Religion has more holes than modern science, and the differnence between SOME people of faith and people of science, is that people of science are willing to admit we don't have all the answers, or that NO ONE does.
It's the general arrogance and ignorance of the religious that annoys, NOT the religion itself.
It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
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It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
And religion stays the same throughout history.... so people still believe we've spawned from 2 people and still have enough capacity in the gene pool to not be flubber babies hundreds of generations later
It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
can you provide examples where science disproves itself?
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It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
can you provide examples where science disproves itself?
it disproves itself with further proof.
its like an athlete outdoing him/herself by defeating their own records.
It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
I respect your decision to believe and to be a religious person. However, I look at religion as allegory; to me it is nothing more than a fable of sorts. Sure, there are a lot of good things that can come from the philosophy of Christianity, but I would rather immerse myself in "reality", rather than what I look at as a book of fiction. I simply do not think that religion is needed. I would rather see a rebirth of some type of humanistic philosophy - a philosophy where people are thinking, acting, conversing as human beings and not as Christians, Muslims, or Jews. To quote a very good friend of mine: "organized religion cannot disappear quickly enough." This is not because of the religions, but it is because of those that use religion to justify horrific actions.
Unfortunately, religion today has become a perversion of the philosophy of J.C.
It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
can you provide examples where science disproves itself?
Science is about disproving itself, completely I agree. constantantly changing as new things are learned and old beliefs proven wrong. this is good .
religon doesnt do this, its Dogma- doctorine. Believe what we say have faith if we cannot prove it to you.
hmmm imagine going to court and asking the jury the judge to have faith in you. or do you need to provide proof
In science faith dosnt hold at all. you have to provide proof, provide studies / data to back up your claims .
later on somebody may find more evidence / proof to change your ideas
Do medicine companies just make a drug and issue it out. do they just say believe im me have faith
I have a Buddha tattooed on my arm. When I need spiritual guidance, a glance at my forearm reminds me that I am only as good as my actions. It compels me to be a better person. When you read a religious text, you should pay attention, not to the Person but, to what the Person represents.
I understand that God-fearing folk feel the urge to tell me to be a good person. Or they want to talk me out of practicing Buddhism and "give my life over to the lord, he will give you eternal life."
Buddhism tells me that, with meditation and positivity, I can reach nirvana. Nirvana is the state of highest spiritual attainment. Buddha referred to it as being without death. Immortality So.. if I commit to a virtuous and positive life, I can be closer to god; god-like. Buddhism also tells me that my actions here on earth can shape my karma. If I have good karma, my consciousness could essentially be reborn.
Christianity, on the other hand, tells me there is only one God and it is God. He makes all the decisions; he sets the mandates. I shall have no other gods before him. Not even myself. I can be born again, but only through the love of God. That makes God sound egotistical, which is exactly what God would NOT be.
I think if Jesus came back, he would be a Bad Religion fan.
I have a Buddha tattooed on my arm. When I need spiritual guidance, a glance at my forearm reminds me that I am only as good as my actions. It compels me to be a better person. When you read a religious text, you should pay attention, not to the Person but, to what the Person represents.
I understand that God-fearing folk feel the urge to tell me to be a good person. Or they want to talk me out of practicing Buddhism and "give my life over to the lord, he will give you eternal life."
Buddhism tells me that, with meditation and positivity, I can reach nirvana. Nirvana is the state of highest spiritual attainment. Buddha referred to it as being without death. Immortality So.. if I commit to a virtuous and positive life, I can be closer to god; god-like. Buddhism also tells me that my actions here on earth can shape my karma. If I have good karma, my consciousness could essentially be reborn.
Christianity, on the other hand, tells me there is only one God and it is God. He makes all the decisions; he sets the mandates. I shall have no other gods before him. Not even myself. I can be born again, but only through the love of God. That makes God sound egotistical, which is exactly what God would NOT be.
I think if Jesus came back, he would be a Bad Religion fan.
It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
And religion stays the same throughout history.... so people still believe we've spawned from 2 people and still have enough capacity in the gene pool to not be flubber babies hundreds of generations later
It's not unbelievable to me. The more I read the Bible, the more I understand the complexities of life. I don't have 100% faith but I do try to rely on God for guidance and inspiration. It is hard but it does give me piece of mind. If you don't like Christian beliefs, why are so many people angered by it? If it is false, why argue or make a lame statement that it is to make people feel comforted. THe truth is that people of different faiths are ridiculed and persecuted all over the world just because they take a leap of faith. What has science shown us? Science on disproves itself time and time again.
And religion stays the same throughout history.... so people still believe we've spawned from 2 people and still have enough capacity in the gene pool to not be flubber babies hundreds of generations later
Which one of your grand father was a monkey
Humans are apes, not monkeys.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win ."
The word CHURCH, appears NOWHERE in the original greek new testament texts.
The greek word, "ekklesia", ek - out of, klesis - a calling, is used many dozens of times in the original greek scripture and references the fact that The Lord Jesus Christ called his people out of the world, and in to the body of christ. This may sound meaningless to many of you, but the implication is clear ... the ekklesia is nothing more than those who have been called out of the world and in to the service of the lord.
The word kyriakon appears NOWHERE in the bible.
This is the greek word for "lord's house", or "house of god", or "of god"
I repeat, this word is NEVER ONCE used in the New Testament.
DESPITE this fact, the word "church" has been inserted, ad nauseam, in to the New Testament, REPLACING EVERY INSTANCE WHERE THE WORD "EKKLESIA" WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK.
And here is a very well written book, available online at the following link, entirely about this profound truth: The Truth Which Sets Free
To give you an idea of just how profoundly and deviously the New Testament has been tampered with, here is the full list of passages where CHURCH has replaced the more correct "congregation" or "gathering" or "assembly" (this is from The Truth Which Sets Free):
Matthew 16:18 gathering
Matthew 18:17 assembly
Acts 2:47 gathering
Acts 5:11 gathering
Acts 7:38 assembly
Acts 8:1 gathering
Acts 8:3 gathering
Acts 9:31 gatherings
Acts 11:22 gatherings.
Acts 11:26 assembled with the gathering
Acts 12:1 assembly.
Acts 12:5 assembly
Acts 13:1 gathering
Acts 14:23 every gathering
Acts 14:27 gathered the assembly
Acts 15:3 assembly
Acts 15:4 assembly
Acts 15:22 the whole gathering
Acts 15:41meetings
Acts 16:5 gatherings
Acts 18:22 the assembly
Acts 19:32 the assembly…wherefore they were come together
Acts 19:39 lawful gathering.
Acts 19:41 dismissed the gathering
Acts 20:17 assembly.
Acts 20:28 gathering of God
Romans 16:1 assembly
Romans 16:4 gatherings of the Gentiles
Romans 16:5 assembly that is in their house
Romans 16:16 assemblies of Christ
Romans 16:23 the whole assembly
Romans 16:27 [assembly at Cenchrea.] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture
1 Corinthians 1:2 assembly of God
1 Corinthians 4:17 every assembly
1 Corinthians 6:4 the gathering
1 Corinthians 7:17 all meetings
1 Corinthians 10:32 the assembled of God
1 Corinthians 11:16 assemblies of God
1 Corinthians 11:18 assembly
1 Corinthians 11:22 assembly of God
1 Corinthians 12:28 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:4 gathering
1 Corinthians 14:5 gathering
1 Corinthians 14:12 gathering.
1 Corinthians 14:19 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:23 the whole assembly
1 Corinthians 14:28 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:33 all gatherings of the saints
1 Corinthians 14:34 assemblies
1 Corinthians 14:35 assembly
1 Corinthians 15:9gathering of God
1 Corinthians 16:1 assemblies
1 Corinthians 16:19 assemblies…the assembly that is in their house
2 Corinthians 1:1 assembly of God
2 Corinthians 8:1 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:18 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:19 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:23 gatherings
2 Corinthians 8:24 assemblies
2 Corinthians 11:8 other gatherings
2 Corinthians 11:28 all the assemblies
2 Corinthians 12:13 other gatherings
Galatians 1:2 assemblies
Galatians 1:13 assembly of God
Galatians 1:22 assemblies
Ephesians 1:22 gathering
Ephesians 3:10 assembly
Ephesians 3:21 gathering
Ephesians 5:23 gathering
Ephesians 5:24 assembly
Ephesians 5:25 Christ also loved the gathering, and gave himself for it
Ephesians 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious gathering
Ephesians 5:29 assembly:
Ephesians 5:32 concerning Christ and the assembly
Philippians 3:6 assembly
Philippians 4:15 assembly
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the gathering
Colossians 1:24 for his body’s sake, which is the gathering
Colossians 4:15 assembly which is in his house
Colossians 4:16 gathering
1 Thessalonians 1:1 assembly.
1 Thessalonians 2:14 assemblies of God
2 Thessalonians 1:1 gathering…in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ
2 Thessalonians 1:4 assemblies of God
1 Timothy 3:5 the gathering of God
1 Timothy 3:15 the house of God, which is the assembly of the living God
1 Timothy 5:16 assembly
2 Timothy 4:22 [assembly of the Ephesians] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture.
Titus 3:15 [assembly of the Cretians] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture.
Philemon 1:2 the assembly in thy house
Hebrews 2:12 midst of the assembly
Hebrews 12:23 the general gathering and assembly
James 5:14 assembly
3 John 1:6 assembly
3 John 1:9 assembly
3 John 1:10 gathering
Revelation 1:4 seven assemblies
Revelation 1:11 seven assemblies
Revelation 1:20 seven assemblies…seven gatherings
Revelation 2:1 assembly
Revelation 2:7 gatherings
Revelation 2:8 assembly
Revelation 2:11 assemblies
Revelation 2:12 assembly
Revelation 2:17 gatherings
Revelation 2:18 assembly
Revelation 2:23 all the assemblies
Revelation 2:29 assemblies
Revelation 3:1 assembly
Revelation 3:6 assemblies
Revelation 3:7 assembly
Revelation 3:13 assemblies
Revelation 3:14 assembly
Revelation 3:22 assemblies.
Revelation 22:16 assemblies
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
The word CHURCH, appears NOWHERE in the original greek new testament texts.
The greek word, "ekklesia", ek - out of, klesis - a calling, is used many dozens of times in the original greek scripture and references the fact that The Lord Jesus Christ called his people out of the world, and in to the body of christ. This may sound meaningless to many of you, but the implication is clear ... the ekklesia is nothing more than those who have been called out of the world and in to the service of the lord.
The word kyriakon appears NOWHERE in the bible.
This is the greek word for "lord's house", or "house of god", or "of god"
I repeat, this word is NEVER ONCE used in the New Testament.
DESPITE this fact, the word "church" has been inserted, ad nauseam, in to the New Testament, REPLACING EVERY INSTANCE WHERE THE WORD "EKKLESIA" WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK.
And here is a very well written book, available online at the following link, entirely about this profound truth: The Truth Which Sets Free
To give you an idea of just how profoundly and deviously the New Testament has been tampered with, here is the full list of passages where CHURCH has replaced the more correct "congregation" or "gathering" or "assembly" (this is from The Truth Which Sets Free):
Matthew 16:18 gathering
Matthew 18:17 assembly
Acts 2:47 gathering
Acts 5:11 gathering
Acts 7:38 assembly
Acts 8:1 gathering
Acts 8:3 gathering
Acts 9:31 gatherings
Acts 11:22 gatherings.
Acts 11:26 assembled with the gathering
Acts 12:1 assembly.
Acts 12:5 assembly
Acts 13:1 gathering
Acts 14:23 every gathering
Acts 14:27 gathered the assembly
Acts 15:3 assembly
Acts 15:4 assembly
Acts 15:22 the whole gathering
Acts 15:41meetings
Acts 16:5 gatherings
Acts 18:22 the assembly
Acts 19:32 the assembly…wherefore they were come together
Acts 19:39 lawful gathering.
Acts 19:41 dismissed the gathering
Acts 20:17 assembly.
Acts 20:28 gathering of God
Romans 16:1 assembly
Romans 16:4 gatherings of the Gentiles
Romans 16:5 assembly that is in their house
Romans 16:16 assemblies of Christ
Romans 16:23 the whole assembly
Romans 16:27 [assembly at Cenchrea.] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture
1 Corinthians 1:2 assembly of God
1 Corinthians 4:17 every assembly
1 Corinthians 6:4 the gathering
1 Corinthians 7:17 all meetings
1 Corinthians 10:32 the assembled of God
1 Corinthians 11:16 assemblies of God
1 Corinthians 11:18 assembly
1 Corinthians 11:22 assembly of God
1 Corinthians 12:28 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:4 gathering
1 Corinthians 14:5 gathering
1 Corinthians 14:12 gathering.
1 Corinthians 14:19 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:23 the whole assembly
1 Corinthians 14:28 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:33 all gatherings of the saints
1 Corinthians 14:34 assemblies
1 Corinthians 14:35 assembly
1 Corinthians 15:9gathering of God
1 Corinthians 16:1 assemblies
1 Corinthians 16:19 assemblies…the assembly that is in their house
2 Corinthians 1:1 assembly of God
2 Corinthians 8:1 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:18 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:19 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:23 gatherings
2 Corinthians 8:24 assemblies
2 Corinthians 11:8 other gatherings
2 Corinthians 11:28 all the assemblies
2 Corinthians 12:13 other gatherings
Galatians 1:2 assemblies
Galatians 1:13 assembly of God
Galatians 1:22 assemblies
Ephesians 1:22 gathering
Ephesians 3:10 assembly
Ephesians 3:21 gathering
Ephesians 5:23 gathering
Ephesians 5:24 assembly
Ephesians 5:25 Christ also loved the gathering, and gave himself for it
Ephesians 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious gathering
Ephesians 5:29 assembly:
Ephesians 5:32 concerning Christ and the assembly
Philippians 3:6 assembly
Philippians 4:15 assembly
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the gathering
Colossians 1:24 for his body’s sake, which is the gathering
Colossians 4:15 assembly which is in his house
Colossians 4:16 gathering
1 Thessalonians 1:1 assembly.
1 Thessalonians 2:14 assemblies of God
2 Thessalonians 1:1 gathering…in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ
2 Thessalonians 1:4 assemblies of God
1 Timothy 3:5 the gathering of God
1 Timothy 3:15 the house of God, which is the assembly of the living God
1 Timothy 5:16 assembly
2 Timothy 4:22 [assembly of the Ephesians] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture.
Titus 3:15 [assembly of the Cretians] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture.
Philemon 1:2 the assembly in thy house
Hebrews 2:12 midst of the assembly
Hebrews 12:23 the general gathering and assembly
James 5:14 assembly
3 John 1:6 assembly
3 John 1:9 assembly
3 John 1:10 gathering
Revelation 1:4 seven assemblies
Revelation 1:11 seven assemblies
Revelation 1:20 seven assemblies…seven gatherings
Revelation 2:1 assembly
Revelation 2:7 gatherings
Revelation 2:8 assembly
Revelation 2:11 assemblies
Revelation 2:12 assembly
Revelation 2:17 gatherings
Revelation 2:18 assembly
Revelation 2:23 all the assemblies
Revelation 2:29 assemblies
Revelation 3:1 assembly
Revelation 3:6 assemblies
Revelation 3:7 assembly
Revelation 3:13 assemblies
Revelation 3:14 assembly
Revelation 3:22 assemblies.
Revelation 22:16 assemblies
Church is a gathering of people to worship God. It's just another word for assembly or gathering. Why does it bother you so much sonny boy
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would you like to debate the 'merits' of judaism or islam then??? cause if you like i will discuss my thoughts on those religions too.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
my response was aimed at the comment about prayer, that he will answer. sorry no, For 20
i begged and pleaded with god to save me.
instead because of the abuse from my father I attempted suicide a few times as a result of that I was sent to talk over my issues with a preist. It was then that he sexually abused me. and thus my piont I prayed and prayed to god and as a result of my trust in him I let a preist do things. yes he was an evil man. But thats my point I begged god to deliver me from the pain I was in and all he did was make it worse ( ifr he exists)
it wasnt untill I actually studied our society and learned of the control religon has had for centuries.
If u want to beleive in stories and fairytalles then go ahead
I certainly wont
and untill we get to a time when we beleive in each other and not a story we were told then maybe the world can move forward
I use my story to educate, its not emotive to me anymore. Its just a good example
there are plenty threads about any range of religon here ,why not christians
you know it is a discussion board. and we are discussing
I do not believe the existence of God is a fairy tale as I know in my heart from my miracle he does exist.
I do hope you understand I am not pro religion and I differentiate God and religion.
Religion needs a God but God does not need a religion.
I often see that the people who no longer believe were raised in the hypocrisy of religion. They asked God for something that did not happen for them, usually resulting in a trauma as in your case and they no longer believe. They turn their backs.
If you don't need God this is fine but if deep inside there is still a need then one can feel unfulfilled.
I am with you on believing in each other and the importance of learning unconditional love, my belief, this is Gods purpose for us, but remember God didn't make the story you speak of, man did.
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Our government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a law-breaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy. - Louis Brandeis
What I meant (and you know what I meant) was why it was going to be an obvious attack on Christianity.
I didn't see Allah or the Koran mentioned, or Buddha, or anything else.
Surprise surpise.
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nice, huh?
typical.
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Please, review Post #1.
Ask that guy why Allah, Mohammed and the Koran was not mentioned. He was looking for arguements so he could 'Spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ'.
If this post was called, "Allah... Mohammed... The Koran..." "What's so unbelievable?", I (and many others here) would be saying the same things about that religion.
I, personally, think religion (with its pre-packaged interpretations, concepts and dogma) is a barrier between me and my God, not a conduit.
Hail, Hail!!!
Unless they've got something against peace
same reason there are so many songs about rainbows..
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As for proof, science evaluates and disproves things. Religions prove nothing, nor do they attempt to do so. They rely on faith and feelings, nothing factual.
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"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
Religion has more holes than modern science, and the differnence between SOME people of faith and people of science, is that people of science are willing to admit we don't have all the answers, or that NO ONE does.
It's the general arrogance and ignorance of the religious that annoys, NOT the religion itself.
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can you provide examples where science disproves itself?
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its like an athlete outdoing him/herself by defeating their own records.
I respect your decision to believe and to be a religious person. However, I look at religion as allegory; to me it is nothing more than a fable of sorts. Sure, there are a lot of good things that can come from the philosophy of Christianity, but I would rather immerse myself in "reality", rather than what I look at as a book of fiction. I simply do not think that religion is needed. I would rather see a rebirth of some type of humanistic philosophy - a philosophy where people are thinking, acting, conversing as human beings and not as Christians, Muslims, or Jews. To quote a very good friend of mine: "organized religion cannot disappear quickly enough." This is not because of the religions, but it is because of those that use religion to justify horrific actions.
Unfortunately, religion today has become a perversion of the philosophy of J.C.
I don't know. I am just rambling I guess
Science is about disproving itself, completely I agree. constantantly changing as new things are learned and old beliefs proven wrong. this is good .
religon doesnt do this, its Dogma- doctorine. Believe what we say have faith if we cannot prove it to you.
hmmm imagine going to court and asking the jury the judge to have faith in you. or do you need to provide proof
In science faith dosnt hold at all. you have to provide proof, provide studies / data to back up your claims .
later on somebody may find more evidence / proof to change your ideas
Do medicine companies just make a drug and issue it out. do they just say believe im me have faith
i haven't been here foe several months, and this thread is still here.
I understand that God-fearing folk feel the urge to tell me to be a good person. Or they want to talk me out of practicing Buddhism and "give my life over to the lord, he will give you eternal life."
Buddhism tells me that, with meditation and positivity, I can reach nirvana. Nirvana is the state of highest spiritual attainment. Buddha referred to it as being without death. Immortality
Christianity, on the other hand, tells me there is only one God and it is God. He makes all the decisions; he sets the mandates. I shall have no other gods before him. Not even myself. I can be born again, but only through the love of God. That makes God sound egotistical, which is exactly what God would NOT be.
I think if Jesus came back, he would be a Bad Religion fan.
Well put
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Humans are apes, not monkeys.
"With our thoughts we make the world"
primates dude primates.
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The word CHURCH, appears NOWHERE in the original greek new testament texts.
The greek word, "ekklesia", ek - out of, klesis - a calling, is used many dozens of times in the original greek scripture and references the fact that The Lord Jesus Christ called his people out of the world, and in to the body of christ. This may sound meaningless to many of you, but the implication is clear ... the ekklesia is nothing more than those who have been called out of the world and in to the service of the lord.
The word kyriakon appears NOWHERE in the bible.
This is the greek word for "lord's house", or "house of god", or "of god"
I repeat, this word is NEVER ONCE used in the New Testament.
DESPITE this fact, the word "church" has been inserted, ad nauseam, in to the New Testament, REPLACING EVERY INSTANCE WHERE THE WORD "EKKLESIA" WAS WRITTEN IN GREEK.
Here is a short description of what i'm talking about:
http://ourlordsekklesia.blogspot.com/20 ... hurch.html
And here is a very well written book, available online at the following link, entirely about this profound truth: The Truth Which Sets Free
To give you an idea of just how profoundly and deviously the New Testament has been tampered with, here is the full list of passages where CHURCH has replaced the more correct "congregation" or "gathering" or "assembly" (this is from The Truth Which Sets Free):
Matthew 16:18 gathering
Matthew 18:17 assembly
Acts 2:47 gathering
Acts 5:11 gathering
Acts 7:38 assembly
Acts 8:1 gathering
Acts 8:3 gathering
Acts 9:31 gatherings
Acts 11:22 gatherings.
Acts 11:26 assembled with the gathering
Acts 12:1 assembly.
Acts 12:5 assembly
Acts 13:1 gathering
Acts 14:23 every gathering
Acts 14:27 gathered the assembly
Acts 15:3 assembly
Acts 15:4 assembly
Acts 15:22 the whole gathering
Acts 15:41meetings
Acts 16:5 gatherings
Acts 18:22 the assembly
Acts 19:32 the assembly…wherefore they were come together
Acts 19:39 lawful gathering.
Acts 19:41 dismissed the gathering
Acts 20:17 assembly.
Acts 20:28 gathering of God
Romans 16:1 assembly
Romans 16:4 gatherings of the Gentiles
Romans 16:5 assembly that is in their house
Romans 16:16 assemblies of Christ
Romans 16:23 the whole assembly
Romans 16:27 [assembly at Cenchrea.] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture
1 Corinthians 1:2 assembly of God
1 Corinthians 4:17 every assembly
1 Corinthians 6:4 the gathering
1 Corinthians 7:17 all meetings
1 Corinthians 10:32 the assembled of God
1 Corinthians 11:16 assemblies of God
1 Corinthians 11:18 assembly
1 Corinthians 11:22 assembly of God
1 Corinthians 12:28 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:4 gathering
1 Corinthians 14:5 gathering
1 Corinthians 14:12 gathering.
1 Corinthians 14:19 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:23 the whole assembly
1 Corinthians 14:28 assembly
1 Corinthians 14:33 all gatherings of the saints
1 Corinthians 14:34 assemblies
1 Corinthians 14:35 assembly
1 Corinthians 15:9gathering of God
1 Corinthians 16:1 assemblies
1 Corinthians 16:19 assemblies…the assembly that is in their house
2 Corinthians 1:1 assembly of God
2 Corinthians 8:1 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:18 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:19 assemblies
2 Corinthians 8:23 gatherings
2 Corinthians 8:24 assemblies
2 Corinthians 11:8 other gatherings
2 Corinthians 11:28 all the assemblies
2 Corinthians 12:13 other gatherings
Galatians 1:2 assemblies
Galatians 1:13 assembly of God
Galatians 1:22 assemblies
Ephesians 1:22 gathering
Ephesians 3:10 assembly
Ephesians 3:21 gathering
Ephesians 5:23 gathering
Ephesians 5:24 assembly
Ephesians 5:25 Christ also loved the gathering, and gave himself for it
Ephesians 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious gathering
Ephesians 5:29 assembly:
Ephesians 5:32 concerning Christ and the assembly
Philippians 3:6 assembly
Philippians 4:15 assembly
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the gathering
Colossians 1:24 for his body’s sake, which is the gathering
Colossians 4:15 assembly which is in his house
Colossians 4:16 gathering
1 Thessalonians 1:1 assembly.
1 Thessalonians 2:14 assemblies of God
2 Thessalonians 1:1 gathering…in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ
2 Thessalonians 1:4 assemblies of God
1 Timothy 3:5 the gathering of God
1 Timothy 3:15 the house of God, which is the assembly of the living God
1 Timothy 5:16 assembly
2 Timothy 4:22 [assembly of the Ephesians] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture.
Titus 3:15 [assembly of the Cretians] Italics indicate KJV addition, not part of Scripture.
Philemon 1:2 the assembly in thy house
Hebrews 2:12 midst of the assembly
Hebrews 12:23 the general gathering and assembly
James 5:14 assembly
3 John 1:6 assembly
3 John 1:9 assembly
3 John 1:10 gathering
Revelation 1:4 seven assemblies
Revelation 1:11 seven assemblies
Revelation 1:20 seven assemblies…seven gatherings
Revelation 2:1 assembly
Revelation 2:7 gatherings
Revelation 2:8 assembly
Revelation 2:11 assemblies
Revelation 2:12 assembly
Revelation 2:17 gatherings
Revelation 2:18 assembly
Revelation 2:23 all the assemblies
Revelation 2:29 assemblies
Revelation 3:1 assembly
Revelation 3:6 assemblies
Revelation 3:7 assembly
Revelation 3:13 assemblies
Revelation 3:14 assembly
Revelation 3:22 assemblies.
Revelation 22:16 assemblies
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