Too bad. Woody was a great guy and at times a awesome pitcher! It'll be sad to see him go.
I feel his 20 k's wasn't necessarily a bad thing for his career. I think the worst thing for his career was Larry Rothschild and Cubs management in his first go-round with the Cubs. Just look at Mark Prior! Even with his perfect pitching form, they destroyed his arm and therefore his career.
I still think Wood has the "stuff" to be effective, I just think those injuries over the may years have really caught up to him. If he pitches today, I hope he gets a huge standing-O and I hope he strikes out the side!
I think the worst thing for his career was Larry Rothschild and Cubs management in his first go-round with the Cubs. Just look at Mark Prior! Even with his perfect pitching form, they destroyed his arm and therefore his career.
I agree 1000000000% here. They pushed those two so hard and so quickly, they never had a chance to transition to a full length MLB season.
I also agree that Thibs does the same, but that's just too raw still. Grr... Rose's injury WAS a fluke thing, but he shouldn't have been out there that long until he was better conditioned. That first round should have been 30 minute games unless it was absolutely, positively necessary. :evil:
Too bad. Woody was a great guy and at times a awesome pitcher! It'll be sad to see him go.
I feel his 20 k's wasn't necessarily a bad thing for his career. I think the worst thing for his career was Larry Rothschild and Cubs management in his first go-round with the Cubs. Just look at Mark Prior! Even with his perfect pitching form, they destroyed his arm and therefore his career.
I still think Wood has the "stuff" to be effective, I just think those injuries over the may years have really caught up to him. If he pitches today, I hope he gets a huge standing-O and I hope he strikes out the side!
you know he will get the standing O....striking out the side....that's a whole different ball game.
Noah averaged 30.4 minutes this season
Rose averaged 35.3. in vinny's two seasons he averaged 37 and 36.8 with thibs at the helm 37.4 and 35.3
Jordan averaged 40, 40.4 and 40.2 in the 86-87, 87-88 and 88-89 seasons.
durrant averaged 38.6 this year, 38.1 for his career
kobe averaged 38.5 this year....and was close to 40 when he was Rose's age
I get all this -- I just think when you're coming off a lot of missed time you need to build back. The ACL is what it is, but the stronger and more conditioned the muscles around it are the more stability you get, the less stress the ACL takes, etc.
It could have happened the next game, it could have happened in the finals... who knows... but Thibs drives players into the ground. Poor Deng with an injured wrist was playing 44 minute games in blowouts at time!
Too bad. Woody was a great guy and at times a awesome pitcher! It'll be sad to see him go.
I feel his 20 k's wasn't necessarily a bad thing for his career. I think the worst thing for his career was Larry Rothschild and Cubs management in his first go-round with the Cubs. Just look at Mark Prior! Even with his perfect pitching form, they destroyed his arm and therefore his career.
I still think Wood has the "stuff" to be effective, I just think those injuries over the may years have really caught up to him. If he pitches today, I hope he gets a huge standing-O and I hope he strikes out the side!
you know he will get the standing O....striking out the side....that's a whole different ball game.
That's probably true!
I think Cub fans will be happy if he walks less than 2 and gives up less than 2 runs.
he had a decent career. nothing great...more of a what could have been.
i wouldn't call him over rated
i would think zito would be more overpaid...just off the top of my head.
Yep... when you think of Wood and Prior going into 2003... and then everything just collapsing I think that just completely messes up the ability to properly assess their careers.
He wasn't bad, but he just never lived up to the expectations after the 20K game and then once he teamed up with Prior things just looked SO good. Ugh!
Speedy continues to kill it with the name changes of this thread.
Tip of the cap to Kerry Wood.
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Thanks for the memories Kid K. Nice to see you go out getting a K. A true class act!
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I'm beginning to think ofthegirl99 doesn't like Coach Thibs.
Both of those were random injuries that happen in the NBA. No way you can blame Thibs for those.
I feel his 20 k's wasn't necessarily a bad thing for his career. I think the worst thing for his career was Larry Rothschild and Cubs management in his first go-round with the Cubs. Just look at Mark Prior! Even with his perfect pitching form, they destroyed his arm and therefore his career.
I still think Wood has the "stuff" to be effective, I just think those injuries over the may years have really caught up to him. If he pitches today, I hope he gets a huge standing-O and I hope he strikes out the side!
Noah averaged 30.4 minutes this season
Rose averaged 35.3. in vinny's two seasons he averaged 37 and 36.8 with thibs at the helm 37.4 and 35.3
Jordan averaged 40, 40.4 and 40.2 in the 86-87, 87-88 and 88-89 seasons.
durrant averaged 38.6 this year, 38.1 for his career
kobe averaged 38.5 this year....and was close to 40 when he was Rose's age
I also agree that Thibs does the same, but that's just too raw still. Grr... Rose's injury WAS a fluke thing, but he shouldn't have been out there that long until he was better conditioned. That first round should have been 30 minute games unless it was absolutely, positively necessary. :evil:
you know he will get the standing O....striking out the side....that's a whole different ball game.
It could have happened the next game, it could have happened in the finals... who knows... but Thibs drives players into the ground. Poor Deng with an injured wrist was playing 44 minute games in blowouts at time!
That's probably true!
I think Cub fans will be happy if he walks less than 2 and gives up less than 2 runs.
Oh well he really hadnt done much the last....
Oh I dont know....
14 years????
Talk about a guy taking advantage of ONE GREAT GAME...
He struck out 20 as a rookie against Houston...
And hasnt done a damn thing since....
FACT!
But without a doubt he is a nice guy, with a huge heart.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
30 wins over the last 10 years.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
$55 Million Dollars in earnings the last 10 years.....
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
In the last 5 years or so, he's come out of the pen and actually had pretty good numbers.
How many games did he miss under Vinny?
How many games has he missed under Thibs? And dont forget to count ALL of next year.
He was pretty solid out of the pen for the last few years. But for a guy that never won more than 14 games in a season, the hype was a bit much.
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The most over-rated, over-paid pitcher, in Baseball History?
If not..... He is in the top 3
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
This is where Cub fans talk about their POS baseball team. I don't care about the Bulls in here. Get out!
Just get rid of
Marmol
Soriano
Soto
And its a complete over-haul!!!
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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he had a decent career. nothing great...more of a what could have been.
i wouldn't call him over rated
i would think zito would be more overpaid...just off the top of my head.
He wasn't bad, but he just never lived up to the expectations after the 20K game and then once he teamed up with Prior things just looked SO good. Ugh!
sun- rooftop with a buddy
anyone ever been on the rooftop? im a sox fan but my buddys company is gonna be there. im guessing i shouldnt talk too much shit at the game....
Tip of the cap to Kerry Wood.
Good stuff!
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