Thumbs up to the two that stood up against this. There should be more reporters like this. Although I have to wonder, did all the other news networks air this story? Chances are, they dealt with it the same way but all their reporters either took a bribe or just reported the story the way their managers told them to. My guess is we know about this because Foxnews actually had a couple reporters with dignity and decided to spill it out to the public, unlike other networks. Not standing up for Foxnews in this case but a big ol' atta boy to the two foxnews reporters that heald their ground. These two should have their own national news show, their ratings would probably go through the roof. The American people need reporters we can trust.
Thumbs up to the two that stood up against this. There should be more reporters like this. Although I have to wonder, did all the other news networks air this story? Chances are, they dealt with it the same way but all their reporters either took a bribe or just reported the story the way their managers told them to. My guess is we know about this because Foxnews actually had a couple reporters with dignity and decided to spill it out to the public, unlike other networks. Not standing up for Foxnews in this case but a big ol' atta boy to the two foxnews reporters that heald their ground. These two should have their own national news show, their ratings would probably go through the roof. The American people need reporters we can trust.
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This was a local story covered by FOX subsidiary WTVT 13 in Tampa, Florida about local practices in the milk farming industry.
This is the prepared statement after the two reporters were fired upon direction of FOX News Headquarters in New York: http://www.foxbghsuit.com/sj040298.htm
"As they like to say over at the Fox News Channel….we report, you decide—but that won’t work if the reporting is slanted and tailored to the liking of whatever special interest is powerful enough to demand it."
Steve Wilson - Thursday, April 2, 1998
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so the other day i caught part of fox news(sic) talking about a new superbug to be afraid of, their medical expert, manny rameriez or whatever, gave some ways to protect yourself from it....these two really stood out to me
-massive immigration (because we don't know what all these people have and are bringing over here)
-don't go to a hospital abroad (he said hospital acquired infections killed so many people and in europe and elsewhere their health system isn't as good as ours so stay away!)
i looked up the hospital acquired infections and it seems manny has it wrong
Health authorities do not have good figures on how many infections and deaths in the United States are caused by Gram-negative bacteria. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that roughly 1.7 million hospital-associated infections, from all types of bacteria combined, cause or contribute to 99,000 deaths each year.
But in Europe, where hospital surveys have been conducted, Gram-negative infections are estimated to account for two-thirds of the 25,000 deaths each year caused by some of the most troublesome hospital-acquired infections, according to a report released in September by health authorities there.
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what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
so the other day i caught part of fox news(sic) talking about a new superbug to be afraid of, their medical expert, manny rameriez or whatever, gave some ways to protect yourself from it....these two really stood out to me
-massive immigration (because we don't know what all these people have and are bringing over here)
-don't go to a hospital abroad (he said hospital acquired infections killed so many people and in europe and elsewhere their health system isn't as good as ours so stay away!)
i looked up the hospital acquired infections and it seems manny has it wrong
Health authorities do not have good figures on how many infections and deaths in the United States are caused by Gram-negative bacteria. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that roughly 1.7 million hospital-associated infections, from all types of bacteria combined, cause or contribute to 99,000 deaths each year.
But in Europe, where hospital surveys have been conducted, Gram-negative infections are estimated to account for two-thirds of the 25,000 deaths each year caused by some of the most troublesome hospital-acquired infections, according to a report released in September by health authorities there.
oh lordy.. there you go again researching on your own and not trusting the fox network. what is it with you and your thinking for yourself? :roll: :P
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so, i turned on the tv and flipped around for a few minutes at one point landing on hannity who had on that 'lying sack of shit' dick morris. hannity asked him what would be the best campaign ad the republicans could put out he replied with an ad he did for christine o'donnell (not sure if it was made or he just pitched her the idea) of being halloween themed and showing clips of people like rachel maddow saying 'witchcraft' and while they do all this talking about it the real black magic is happening here (where there'll be a pic of the capitol and white house and pics of democrats) with these witches brewing up a cauldron of voodoo budgets and yadda yadda yadda
what i found most amusing was how he and hannity kept referring to it as 'allegations of witchcraft'. merriam webster defines 'allegation' as
1: the act of alleging
2: a positive assertion; specifically : a statement by a party to a legal action of what the party undertakes to prove
3: an assertion unsupported and by implication regarded as unsupportable <vague allegations of misconduct>
she's the one that said it, how is that an allegation?
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when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
Sorry man, but this is the most biased web site I have ever come across.
how is this the most biased site you have ever seen? because most of us do not watch fox and most of us disagree with your positions? i'm sorry man, but many of us see what a sham fox is, it is the propaganda arm of the gop, and its passing off opinion pieces as real news....fox tries to shape mass public opinion and it is very good at that. look how successful beck is with his take america back rhetoric...
forgive me and those of us that try to actively pursue the truth and consult other countries' newspapers and media to find out what is relly happening in the world. god knows none of that stuff is reported in the US media, especially not on fox...but if you feel i am biased by reading and pursuing the truth, then it is your problem and nobody else's....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Sorry man, but this is the most biased web site I have ever come across.
how is this the most biased site you have ever seen? because most of us do not watch fox and most of us disagree with your positions? i'm sorry man, but many of us see what a sham fox is, it is the propaganda arm of the gop, and its passing off opinion pieces as real news....fox tries to shape mass public opinion and it is very good at that. look how successful beck is with his take america back rhetoric...
forgive me and those of us that try to actively pursue the truth and consult other countries' newspapers and media to find out what is relly happening in the world. god knows none of that stuff is reported in the US media, especially not on fox...but if you feel i am biased by reading and pursuing the truth, then it is your problem and nobody else's....
yes....fox pushes issues and policies to the right. Just like msnbc, cnn, comedy central etc... pushes issues and policies to the left. But you and many other people take issue with only one side of the problem. So if you don't like what they say it's a sham, if you happen to agree with it it must be the truth. ALL political media is biased bullshit, so why would it be that there is a thread on here with 16 pages only about Fox?......naahhh, no biased bullshit going on here :roll:
Reminds me of a comic I saw the other day:
Why is it that conservatives call themselves conservative but you never hear a liberal calling themselves a liberal?
Because the racial, bigotted, profiling, hate mongerering, prejudiced conservatives ruined the liberal name.
how is this the most biased site you have ever seen? because most of us do not watch fox and most of us disagree with your positions? i'm sorry man, but many of us see what a sham fox is, it is the propaganda arm of the gop, and its passing off opinion pieces as real news....fox tries to shape mass public opinion and it is very good at that. look how successful beck is with his take america back rhetoric...
forgive me and those of us that try to actively pursue the truth and consult other countries' newspapers and media to find out what is relly happening in the world. god knows none of that stuff is reported in the US media, especially not on fox...but if you feel i am biased by reading and pursuing the truth, then it is your problem and nobody else's....
yes....fox pushes issues and policies to the right. Just like msnbc, cnn, comedy central etc... pushes issues and policies to the left. But you and many other people take issue with only one side of the problem. So if you don't like what they say it's a sham, if you happen to agree with it it must be the truth. ALL political media is biased bullshit, so why would it be that there is a thread on here with 16 pages only about Fox?......naahhh, no biased bullshit going on here :roll:
Reminds me of a comic I saw the other day:
Why is it that conservatives call themselves conservative but you never hear a liberal calling themselves a liberal?
Because the racial, bigotted, profiling, hate mongerering, prejudiced conservatives ruined the liberal name.
i never said msnbc did not push things to the left. this thread is about fox news and how it thinks that its viewers are stupid when they obviously doctor footage and doctor stories that are not true, ahem cough, breitbart videos cough...etc...
but msnbc has more credibility with people who actually read hard news and just because fox viewers say anything that msnbc is "lies" even in the face of the truth does not mean it is true. so if i read the guardian is it lies or is it truth? i can pretty much god damn guarantee that it is more objective and truthful than anything to come off of fox news. for one, it does not read at a 3rd grade level, so that is a start. and two it is written objectively and is very hardly biased. the saddest part of all of this is that nowadays people are unable to distinguish op-ed from factual news.
an to answer your question, yes the conservatives made "liberal" a scary and nasty word. i'm a proud liberal. i do not see how conservatives in this day and age would call themselves conservative because it looks to me like the "conservatives" in our government are uninterested in conserving anything...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
how is this the most biased site you have ever seen? because most of us do not watch fox and most of us disagree with your positions? i'm sorry man, but many of us see what a sham fox is, it is the propaganda arm of the gop, and its passing off opinion pieces as real news....fox tries to shape mass public opinion and it is very good at that. look how successful beck is with his take america back rhetoric...
forgive me and those of us that try to actively pursue the truth and consult other countries' newspapers and media to find out what is relly happening in the world. god knows none of that stuff is reported in the US media, especially not on fox...but if you feel i am biased by reading and pursuing the truth, then it is your problem and nobody else's....
yes....fox pushes issues and policies to the right. Just like msnbc, cnn, comedy central etc... pushes issues and policies to the left. But you and many other people take issue with only one side of the problem. So if you don't like what they say it's a sham, if you happen to agree with it it must be the truth. ALL political media is biased bullshit, so why would it be that there is a thread on here with 16 pages only about Fox?......naahhh, no biased bullshit going on here :roll:
Reminds me of a comic I saw the other day:
Why is it that conservatives call themselves conservative but you never hear a liberal calling themselves a liberal?
Because the racial, bigotted, profiling, hate mongerering, prejudiced conservatives ruined the liberal name.
i never said msnbc did not push things to the left. this thread is about fox news and how it thinks that its viewers are stupid when they obviously doctor footage and doctor stories that are not true, ahem cough, breitbart videos cough...etc...
but msnbc has more credibility with people who actually read hard news and just because fox viewers say anything that msnbc is "lies" even in the face of the truth does not mean it is true. so if i read the guardian is it lies or is it truth? i can pretty much god damn guarantee that it is more objective and truthful than anything to come off of fox news. for one, it does not read at a 3rd grade level, so that is a start. and two it is written objectively and is very hardly biased. the saddest part of all of this is that nowadays people are unable to distinguish op-ed from factual news.
an to answer your question, yes the conservatives made "liberal" a scary and nasty word. i'm a proud liberal. i do not see how conservatives in this day and age would call themselves conservative because it looks to me like the "conservatives" in our government are uninterested in conserving anything...
Coming from somebody who recieves their information from Media Matters. :roll: You can continue to try to convince yourself and others (which on this web site will not be hard)that you are not biased and judge all political networks....but I call bullshit. People on this site are so far left they make Obama look like a republican. With all due respect of course.
People on this site are so far left they make Obama look like a republican. With all due respect of course.
see i don't see that. i see plenty of criticism of obama. (foreign policies, health care etc). i don't think i've seen one of his supporters on here that has never been criticial of him in some way or other.
can you name one? not trying to single anyone out but i can't think of one person who appears to be pro obama who has not been critical of his leadership/policies in some way and yet you talk as though there are plenty?
Coming from somebody who recieves their information from Media Matters. :roll: You can continue to try to convince yourself and others (which on this web site will not be hard)that you are not biased and judge all political networks....but I call bullshit. People on this site are so far left they make Obama look like a republican. With all due respect of course.
oh so you are gonna call bullshit
obama makes himself look like a republican because of HIS policies. they are essentially the same policies as those before him. i disagree with many of them, but you know what? he is 1000% better than what old man mccain and dim bulb palin would be doing.
and first of all you don't know me. you don't know where i get my information. i go to media matters and factcheck occasionallyonly to counter all of the bullshit and lies that fox puts out there and to debunk the outrageously false things that some posters, yourself included, post here as if they were true. when i see outright BS i research it and can sometimes debunk it, and sometimes i can't. i post articles from msnbc because it has the widest variety of stories of all of the american news sites and they post about things i have an interest in, mainly israel-palestine and what our congress is doing. i post from the guardian because it is a great news site with reporters that actually investigate and report what they find. you should maybe look to other sources outside of your own country once in awhile. it MIGHT give you a new perspective on what is really going on in the world that is not reported in the US.
you don't even know if i watch cable news. fact is, i don't. i can't stand to watch opinion with a smattering of edited facts to fit a certain agenda. i have voiced my disdain for all cable networks at some point on this board, but i am not going to search through my 3700 something posts just to make a point to you. you should stop making so many assumptions, because you should know what happens when you assume....
also you have yet to provide any links or any information to back up your claims that fox is a legitimate news source, is unbiased, and that the other networks are so incredibly biased. until you do, you should not try to talk to me about what media is biased or not. it has been duely noted in this thread and a hundred others that fox news is a sham.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
the jetpacks are coming! the jetpacks are coming :shock:
the funniest bit is when Brian Kilmeade said "you gotta make up some rules because you're going to have jetpacks flying into choppers!"
oh and when they said that the LAPD were buying 10,000 of them at a cost of $100,000 each. they really think the LAPD has a lazy billion dollars just sitting around for jetpacks. for serious?
People on this site are so far left they make Obama look like a republican. With all due respect of course.
see i don't see that. i see plenty of criticism of obama. (foreign policies, health care etc). i don't think i've seen one of his supporters on here that has never been criticial of him in some way or other.
can you name one? not trying to single anyone out but i can't think of one person who appears to be pro obama who has not been critical of his leadership/policies in some way and yet you talk as though there are plenty?
I can totally agree with this. How can you be in a country like this and not be critical of your President whether you voted for him or whether you didn't. It can only help to keep him and his administration on their toes that the citizenry are mindful of his policies.
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the jetpacks are coming! the jetpacks are coming :shock:
the funniest bit is when Brian Kilmeade said "you gotta make up some rules because you're going to have jetpacks flying into choppers!"
oh and when they said that the LAPD were buying 10,000 of them at a cost of $100,000 each. they really think the LAPD has a lazy billion dollars just sitting around for jetpacks. for serious?
i was just going to post this as yet another example of how a simple fact check before running with this story could have saved fox yet another embarrassment....it is just simply reckless reporting...and predictably the sheep reporters fell for it...the LAPD does not even have a billion dollar budget, and everyone knows the state of california is broke, so how can they afford these things? besides, there are only a small number or working prototypes, so how can an order for 10,000 of them be filled?? are there even 10,000 cops on the LAPD force??
lets use our brains here people....
maybe they could have created a few jet pack manufacturing jobs, but labor is cheeper in china, but i digress...
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Steve Douchebag was a douche in DC and he continues to be the same from where ever they broadcast Fox News now.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
difference between fox and all the other stations is ...
that fox is willing to lie and manipulate to serve not only a corporate agenda but a political one as well ... yes, all the other stations have corporate affiliations but you can't compare how low on the journalistic integrity front fox will go ...
all those pundits they have would totally get owned in any real life debate on any topic ...
anyone else find it funny that several of the presumed front runners for the 2012 gop presidential nomination are on staff at fox??? as far as i know romney is the only one that is not....that should speak VOLUMES to the american people as to what the agenda is...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I'm assuming that everyone railing against Fox must be watching it, correct? Therefore perhaps contributing to their ratings and success?
If you are not watching it, then are you relying on snippets collected by others which may paint an unfair view?
Just curious, that's all.
i think everyone here has watched fox for an extended period of time at some point in our adult lives and are willing to bet that we made up our own minds and did not rely "on snippets collected by others which may pain an unfair view"....
when your network is owned by rupert murdoch, and your on air "talent" includes bill o'reilly, glenn beck, sean hannity, sarah palin, mike huckabee, etc. there is definitely an agenda there...
does anyone remember when they showed the rally with video footage from a different rally in a different season???? that was early in THIS thread...how about the time when Fox and Friends misled their viewers with a "questionable graphic" that showed the results of a Rasmussen Reports climate change poll adding up to 120%??? and let's not forget what scott mcclellan, former bush press secretary said in his book that the bush administration routinely gave fox news reporters and on air talent talking points to relay on their tv shows to influence opinion...
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I'm assuming that everyone railing against Fox must be watching it, correct? Therefore perhaps contributing to their ratings and success?
If you are not watching it, then are you relying on snippets collected by others which may paint an unfair view?
Just curious, that's all.
i think everyone here has watched fox for an extended period of time at some point in our adult lives and are willing to bet that we made up our own minds and did not rely "on snippets collected by others which may pain an unfair view"....
when your network is owned by rupert murdoch, and your on air "talent" includes bill o'reilly, glenn beck, sean hannity, sarah palin, mike huckabee, etc. there is definitely an agenda there...
does anyone remember when they showed the rally with video footage from a different rally in a different season???? that was early in THIS thread...how about the time when Fox and Friends misled their viewers with a "questionable graphic" that showed the results of a Rasmussen Reports climate change poll adding up to 120%??? and let's not forget what scott mcclellan, former bush press secretary said in his book that the bush administration routinely gave fox news reporters and on air talent talking points to relay on their tv shows to influence opinion...
As far as their talent, the main agenda that murdoch seems to be gunning for is getting more eyeballs on his network. However, I do see a problem arising if any of the talent announces a bid for 2012. It will be interesting to see how that is handled.
As far as talking points, don't all politicians try to influence media and opinion by releasing favorable points to the media? The white house even went as far as trying to discredit Fox as a news agency (however I do find it odd that they moved Fox into the front row of the media gallery). And I recall certain networks getting special access privileges as long as the obama team was happy with them. I'm sure Bush did it. Obama is doing it. And soon, Palin will be doing it. (kidding . . . maybe :shock: )
My point is that Fox caters to the right and a network like MSNBC caters to the left. People on the right think that Fox is balanced and MSNBC is disreputable network pushing a liberal agenda. And people on the left think that MSNBC is balanced and the Fox is a disreputable network pushing a conservative agenda. I know that you probably have a laundry list of mistakes and lies that have been reported on Fox news . . . my conservative friends have the same list for MSNBC.
I just see it as two networks doing all they can to appeal to a certain demographic to rake in more advertising money. Personally, I can't stand either network. I just recently turned my cable back on and was disgusted by the "fear" that these 24/7 networks push so that you keep watching. Even ESPN's Sportscenter is bugging me out right now.
I'm assuming that everyone railing against Fox must be watching it, correct? Therefore perhaps contributing to their ratings and success?
If you are not watching it, then are you relying on snippets collected by others which may paint an unfair view?
Just curious, that's all.
i think polaris_x nailed it.
and it's difficult again to work out what point you are trying to make. watching fox news every now and then along with the other "news outlets" doesn't mean someone is contributing to their ratings and success. if someone is critical of them and making people aware of their idiocy and blatant lies and fear tactics they use in their reporting, well that is hardly contributing to their success.
i prefer to watch/read things from all avenues and then make an informed decision based on that. that goes for any media outlets. you don't need to watch fox 24/7 or MSNBC to realize that they are not always fair, balanced or truthful.
the jetpacks are coming! the jetpacks are coming :shock:
the funniest bit is when Brian Kilmeade said "you gotta make up some rules because you're going to have jetpacks flying into choppers!"
oh and when they said that the LAPD were buying 10,000 of them at a cost of $100,000 each. they really think the LAPD has a lazy billion dollars just sitting around for jetpacks. for serious?
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Thumbs up to the two that stood up against this. There should be more reporters like this. Although I have to wonder, did all the other news networks air this story? Chances are, they dealt with it the same way but all their reporters either took a bribe or just reported the story the way their managers told them to. My guess is we know about this because Foxnews actually had a couple reporters with dignity and decided to spill it out to the public, unlike other networks. Not standing up for Foxnews in this case but a big ol' atta boy to the two foxnews reporters that heald their ground. These two should have their own national news show, their ratings would probably go through the roof. The American people need reporters we can trust.
This was a local story covered by FOX subsidiary WTVT 13 in Tampa, Florida about local practices in the milk farming industry.
This is the prepared statement after the two reporters were fired upon direction of FOX News Headquarters in New York:
http://www.foxbghsuit.com/sj040298.htm
"As they like to say over at the Fox News Channel….we report, you decide—but that won’t work if the reporting is slanted and tailored to the liking of whatever special interest is powerful enough to demand it."
Steve Wilson - Thursday, April 2, 1998
Hail, Hail!!!
-massive immigration (because we don't know what all these people have and are bringing over here)
-don't go to a hospital abroad (he said hospital acquired infections killed so many people and in europe and elsewhere their health system isn't as good as ours so stay away!)
i looked up the hospital acquired infections and it seems manny has it wrong
first, this is 4 years old but...
http://www.slate.com/id/2152118/
Europe is killing off hospital infections. Why isn't the United States following suit?
but this one stood out most of all
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/27/busin ... g34XVmluJA
Health authorities do not have good figures on how many infections and deaths in the United States are caused by Gram-negative bacteria. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that roughly 1.7 million hospital-associated infections, from all types of bacteria combined, cause or contribute to 99,000 deaths each year.
But in Europe, where hospital surveys have been conducted, Gram-negative infections are estimated to account for two-thirds of the 25,000 deaths each year caused by some of the most troublesome hospital-acquired infections, according to a report released in September by health authorities there.
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"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
oh lordy.. there you go again researching on your own and not trusting the fox network. what is it with you and your thinking for yourself? :roll: :P
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At the Beck Christian revival rally people were talking about illegal immigration and one of the big problems is the diseases they bring over....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
what goes around comes around if you ask me. its amusing... the stupidity not the diseases(cause thems bad... yessiree bob) :roll:
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lie beside me
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what i found most amusing was how he and hannity kept referring to it as 'allegations of witchcraft'. merriam webster defines 'allegation' as
1: the act of alleging
2: a positive assertion; specifically : a statement by a party to a legal action of what the party undertakes to prove
3: an assertion unsupported and by implication regarded as unsupportable <vague allegations of misconduct>
she's the one that said it, how is that an allegation?
what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?
"I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama
when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlX0_vexXf0
MSNBC has an audience.....????
difference is Tea Partiers eat it up like Rush does oxy
The difference is the liberals attack one side and not the other as if one side is more innocent then the other.
Nope. You will see liberals on this board me included make fun of msnbc. Commy does...Cosmo does, but they are not relevant.
Lovers of Tea post links to fox and hold Hannity, Beck et al in high regard.
Find a liberal on this board that holds Olberman in high regard.....
Yeah yeah yeah. see it all the time. :roll:
Sorry man, but this is the most biased web site I have ever come across.
forgive me and those of us that try to actively pursue the truth and consult other countries' newspapers and media to find out what is relly happening in the world. god knows none of that stuff is reported in the US media, especially not on fox...but if you feel i am biased by reading and pursuing the truth, then it is your problem and nobody else's....
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
yes....fox pushes issues and policies to the right. Just like msnbc, cnn, comedy central
Reminds me of a comic I saw the other day:
Why is it that conservatives call themselves conservative but you never hear a liberal calling themselves a liberal?
Because the racial, bigotted, profiling, hate mongerering, prejudiced conservatives ruined the liberal name.
but msnbc has more credibility with people who actually read hard news and just because fox viewers say anything that msnbc is "lies" even in the face of the truth does not mean it is true. so if i read the guardian is it lies or is it truth? i can pretty much god damn guarantee that it is more objective and truthful than anything to come off of fox news. for one, it does not read at a 3rd grade level, so that is a start. and two it is written objectively and is very hardly biased. the saddest part of all of this is that nowadays people are unable to distinguish op-ed from factual news.
an to answer your question, yes the conservatives made "liberal" a scary and nasty word. i'm a proud liberal. i do not see how conservatives in this day and age would call themselves conservative because it looks to me like the "conservatives" in our government are uninterested in conserving anything...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Coming from somebody who recieves their information from Media Matters. :roll: You can continue to try to convince yourself and others (which on this web site will not be hard)that you are not biased and judge all political networks....but I call bullshit. People on this site are so far left they make Obama look like a republican. With all due respect of course.
can you name one? not trying to single anyone out but i can't think of one person who appears to be pro obama who has not been critical of his leadership/policies in some way and yet you talk as though there are plenty?
obama makes himself look like a republican because of HIS policies. they are essentially the same policies as those before him. i disagree with many of them, but you know what? he is 1000% better than what old man mccain and dim bulb palin would be doing.
and first of all you don't know me. you don't know where i get my information. i go to media matters and factcheck occasionally only to counter all of the bullshit and lies that fox puts out there and to debunk the outrageously false things that some posters, yourself included, post here as if they were true. when i see outright BS i research it and can sometimes debunk it, and sometimes i can't. i post articles from msnbc because it has the widest variety of stories of all of the american news sites and they post about things i have an interest in, mainly israel-palestine and what our congress is doing. i post from the guardian because it is a great news site with reporters that actually investigate and report what they find. you should maybe look to other sources outside of your own country once in awhile. it MIGHT give you a new perspective on what is really going on in the world that is not reported in the US.
you don't even know if i watch cable news. fact is, i don't. i can't stand to watch opinion with a smattering of edited facts to fit a certain agenda. i have voiced my disdain for all cable networks at some point on this board, but i am not going to search through my 3700 something posts just to make a point to you. you should stop making so many assumptions, because you should know what happens when you assume....
also you have yet to provide any links or any information to back up your claims that fox is a legitimate news source, is unbiased, and that the other networks are so incredibly biased. until you do, you should not try to talk to me about what media is biased or not. it has been duely noted in this thread and a hundred others that fox news is a sham.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
the jetpacks are coming! the jetpacks are coming :shock:
the funniest bit is when Brian Kilmeade said "you gotta make up some rules because you're going to have jetpacks flying into choppers!"
oh and when they said that the LAPD were buying 10,000 of them at a cost of $100,000 each. they really think the LAPD has a lazy billion dollars just sitting around for jetpacks. for serious?
oh my.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlzjwZD4lEQ
I can totally agree with this. How can you be in a country like this and not be critical of your President whether you voted for him or whether you didn't. It can only help to keep him and his administration on their toes that the citizenry are mindful of his policies.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
lets use our brains here people....
maybe they could have created a few jet pack manufacturing jobs, but labor is cheeper in china, but i digress...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
that fox is willing to lie and manipulate to serve not only a corporate agenda but a political one as well ... yes, all the other stations have corporate affiliations but you can't compare how low on the journalistic integrity front fox will go ...
all those pundits they have would totally get owned in any real life debate on any topic ...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
If you are not watching it, then are you relying on snippets collected by others which may paint an unfair view?
Just curious, that's all.
when your network is owned by rupert murdoch, and your on air "talent" includes bill o'reilly, glenn beck, sean hannity, sarah palin, mike huckabee, etc. there is definitely an agenda there...
does anyone remember when they showed the rally with video footage from a different rally in a different season???? that was early in THIS thread...how about the time when Fox and Friends misled their viewers with a "questionable graphic" that showed the results of a Rasmussen Reports climate change poll adding up to 120%??? and let's not forget what scott mcclellan, former bush press secretary said in his book that the bush administration routinely gave fox news reporters and on air talent talking points to relay on their tv shows to influence opinion...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
As far as talking points, don't all politicians try to influence media and opinion by releasing favorable points to the media? The white house even went as far as trying to discredit Fox as a news agency (however I do find it odd that they moved Fox into the front row of the media gallery). And I recall certain networks getting special access privileges as long as the obama team was happy with them. I'm sure Bush did it. Obama is doing it. And soon, Palin will be doing it. (kidding
My point is that Fox caters to the right and a network like MSNBC caters to the left. People on the right think that Fox is balanced and MSNBC is disreputable network pushing a liberal agenda. And people on the left think that MSNBC is balanced and the Fox is a disreputable network pushing a conservative agenda. I know that you probably have a laundry list of mistakes and lies that have been reported on Fox news . . . my conservative friends have the same list for MSNBC.
I just see it as two networks doing all they can to appeal to a certain demographic to rake in more advertising money. Personally, I can't stand either network. I just recently turned my cable back on and was disgusted by the "fear" that these 24/7 networks push so that you keep watching. Even ESPN's Sportscenter is bugging me out right now.
i think polaris_x nailed it.
and it's difficult again to work out what point you are trying to make. watching fox news every now and then along with the other "news outlets" doesn't mean someone is contributing to their ratings and success. if someone is critical of them and making people aware of their idiocy and blatant lies and fear tactics they use in their reporting, well that is hardly contributing to their success.
i prefer to watch/read things from all avenues and then make an informed decision based on that. that goes for any media outlets. you don't need to watch fox 24/7 or MSNBC to realize that they are not always fair, balanced or truthful.
there is something seriously wrong with those people.
its comedy.