I have always thought it to mean this. Someone high sprung or a goof. Never have I ever heard the word Spaz used to put down someone with cerebral palsy.
When Beyoncé dropped the same ableist slur as Lizzo on her new album, my heart sank
Hannah Diviney
It’s not very often that I don’t know what to
say, rendered speechless by ignorance, sadness and a simmering anger
born of bone-deep exhaustion. But that’s how I feel right now.
Six weeks ago I called out American singer, Lizzo,
on Twitter for her use of an ableist slur (“spaz”) in a new song. That
tweet of mine – which explained how the slur was connected to my
disability, cerebral palsy – took me less than five minutes to write and
it went viral, landing on the front page of global news outlets
including the BBC, New York Times and the Washington Post.
Lizzo herself even took notice, changing the lyric and giving us all a masterclass in how to be a true and effective ally.
I thought we’d changed the music industry and started a global
conversation about why ableist language – intentional or not – has no
place in music. But I guess I was wrong, because now Beyoncé has gone
and done exactly the same thing. In fact, she’s used the word “spaz”
twice in a new song Heated, a co-write with Canadian rapper Drake off her new album, Renaissance, which dropped on Friday.
I found out by way of a snarky mention on Twitter asking if I planned to
tell Queen Bey to “do better” like I had with Lizzo. My heart sank.
Here we were again, but this time the stakes feel higher. Calling this
one out is a whole other level.
Whenever Beyoncé
so much as breathes it becomes a cultural moment. She’s often the
blueprint for the music industry – with artists and entertainers
following her lead. That’s the status she has earned after decades of a
career at the top, never making the same move twice, seeming to play in
an entirely different league to the majority of the music industry.
Beyoncé’s
commitment to storytelling musically and visually is unparalleled, as
is her power to have the world paying attention to the narratives,
struggles and nuanced lived experience of being a black woman – a world I
can only ever understand as an ally, and have no desire to overshadow.
But
that doesn’t excuse her use of ableist language – language that gets
used and ignored all too often. Language you can be sure I will never
ignore, no matter who it comes from or what the circumstances are. It
doesn’t excuse the fact that the teams of people involved in making this
album somehow missed all the noise the disabled community made only six
weeks ago when Lizzo did the same thing.
It
doesn’t explain how millions of people have already heard this album and
yet aren’t raising the issue, except to make fun of or degrade the
disabled community.
I’m so tired. Disabled people deserve better. I don’t want to have this conversation again.
Yeah. I heard it in the song last week. It’s a bummer. I’d rather them own it and be better going forward than not doing anything.
I'm really hoping she comes around on this one. And it probably wasn't meant to be derogatory, but how do you tell that to someone with a disability? She would do well to make amends somehow. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Never heard of it used in that way. Is this new?
It's not new to my knowledge, but then in the late 80's I subbed special ed a few times, have personally known Down Syndrome folks, have worked with people in the disabilities office at our local community college from the late 1990's to early 2000's, volunteered 1,000 hours at our health library, so I might take it for granted that most people know "spaz" is a derogatory term. To my way of thinking, it really should be common knowledge.
And yes, same with "dork". Kind of hard to believe that one is still thrown around. It too, by definition, is a derogatory term.
It seems to me that people who throw those terms around either have no experience with people with disabilities or maybe even have disdain for them. It sucks being disabled. Why make it harder? (I mean that generally. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone specifically.)
I would gather to say that everyone that uses dork or spaz is not targeting the special needs people. The term restarted wasn't doing that either IMO but because there was a past stigma with those words and people still want to revisit words that have taken on new meanings.
The term "gypped" as in "gypped me on that price" is a derogatory term or so I have read. It refers to Gypsies. They get a lot of flack.
Anybody feel like starting a thread on this, lol? Offensive words you didn't know that were?
Do doubt you're right that people saying "dork" and "spaz" are not intentionally targeting special needs people... but inadvertently, they are. Besides, those are words 4th graders, not grown adults.
In any case, yeah, this needs a different. thread.
On topic, still waiting for the live Dinosaur Jr pre-order (and actually glad to let my ears settle down after seeing The Dream Syndicate show). That Dino LP should be excellent!
Which Dinosaur Jr live vinyl are you referring to? Just curious if there is a new one.
I have always thought it to mean this. Someone high sprung or a goof. Never have I ever heard the word Spaz used to put down someone with cerebral palsy.
When Beyoncé dropped the same ableist slur as Lizzo on her new album, my heart sank
Hannah Diviney
It’s not very often that I don’t know what to
say, rendered speechless by ignorance, sadness and a simmering anger
born of bone-deep exhaustion. But that’s how I feel right now.
Six weeks ago I called out American singer, Lizzo,
on Twitter for her use of an ableist slur (“spaz”) in a new song. That
tweet of mine – which explained how the slur was connected to my
disability, cerebral palsy – took me less than five minutes to write and
it went viral, landing on the front page of global news outlets
including the BBC, New York Times and the Washington Post.
Lizzo herself even took notice, changing the lyric and giving us all a masterclass in how to be a true and effective ally.
I thought we’d changed the music industry and started a global
conversation about why ableist language – intentional or not – has no
place in music. But I guess I was wrong, because now Beyoncé has gone
and done exactly the same thing. In fact, she’s used the word “spaz”
twice in a new song Heated, a co-write with Canadian rapper Drake off her new album, Renaissance, which dropped on Friday.
I found out by way of a snarky mention on Twitter asking if I planned to
tell Queen Bey to “do better” like I had with Lizzo. My heart sank.
Here we were again, but this time the stakes feel higher. Calling this
one out is a whole other level.
Whenever Beyoncé
so much as breathes it becomes a cultural moment. She’s often the
blueprint for the music industry – with artists and entertainers
following her lead. That’s the status she has earned after decades of a
career at the top, never making the same move twice, seeming to play in
an entirely different league to the majority of the music industry.
Beyoncé’s
commitment to storytelling musically and visually is unparalleled, as
is her power to have the world paying attention to the narratives,
struggles and nuanced lived experience of being a black woman – a world I
can only ever understand as an ally, and have no desire to overshadow.
But
that doesn’t excuse her use of ableist language – language that gets
used and ignored all too often. Language you can be sure I will never
ignore, no matter who it comes from or what the circumstances are. It
doesn’t excuse the fact that the teams of people involved in making this
album somehow missed all the noise the disabled community made only six
weeks ago when Lizzo did the same thing.
It
doesn’t explain how millions of people have already heard this album and
yet aren’t raising the issue, except to make fun of or degrade the
disabled community.
I’m so tired. Disabled people deserve better. I don’t want to have this conversation again.
Yeah. I heard it in the song last week. It’s a bummer. I’d rather them own it and be better going forward than not doing anything.
I'm really hoping she comes around on this one. And it probably wasn't meant to be derogatory, but how do you tell that to someone with a disability? She would do well to make amends somehow. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Never heard of it used in that way. Is this new?
It's not new to my knowledge, but then in the late 80's I subbed special ed a few times, have personally known Down Syndrome folks, have worked with people in the disabilities office at our local community college from the late 1990's to early 2000's, volunteered 1,000 hours at our health library, so I might take it for granted that most people know "spaz" is a derogatory term. To my way of thinking, it really should be common knowledge.
And yes, same with "dork". Kind of hard to believe that one is still thrown around. It too, by definition, is a derogatory term.
It seems to me that people who throw those terms around either have no experience with people with disabilities or maybe even have disdain for them. It sucks being disabled. Why make it harder? (I mean that generally. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone specifically.)
I would gather to say that everyone that uses dork or spaz is not targeting the special needs people. The term restarted wasn't doing that either IMO but because there was a past stigma with those words and people still want to revisit words that have taken on new meanings.
The term "gypped" as in "gypped me on that price" is a derogatory term or so I have read. It refers to Gypsies. They get a lot of flack.
Anybody feel like starting a thread on this, lol? Offensive words you didn't know that were?
At this point, people should say what they want.
My brother in law has downs. You absolutely can’t use the “r” word around my in-laws. However they mis gender people on purpose and decry the overly PC nature of our society
go figure
people are fine offending anyone, they just don’t want to be offended themselves. You can’t win
on topic. Got home this evening and unwrapping Jack white, and living in clip tonight
I have always thought it to mean this. Someone high sprung or a goof. Never have I ever heard the word Spaz used to put down someone with cerebral palsy.
When Beyoncé dropped the same ableist slur as Lizzo on her new album, my heart sank
Hannah Diviney
It’s not very often that I don’t know what to
say, rendered speechless by ignorance, sadness and a simmering anger
born of bone-deep exhaustion. But that’s how I feel right now.
Six weeks ago I called out American singer, Lizzo,
on Twitter for her use of an ableist slur (“spaz”) in a new song. That
tweet of mine – which explained how the slur was connected to my
disability, cerebral palsy – took me less than five minutes to write and
it went viral, landing on the front page of global news outlets
including the BBC, New York Times and the Washington Post.
Lizzo herself even took notice, changing the lyric and giving us all a masterclass in how to be a true and effective ally.
I thought we’d changed the music industry and started a global
conversation about why ableist language – intentional or not – has no
place in music. But I guess I was wrong, because now Beyoncé has gone
and done exactly the same thing. In fact, she’s used the word “spaz”
twice in a new song Heated, a co-write with Canadian rapper Drake off her new album, Renaissance, which dropped on Friday.
I found out by way of a snarky mention on Twitter asking if I planned to
tell Queen Bey to “do better” like I had with Lizzo. My heart sank.
Here we were again, but this time the stakes feel higher. Calling this
one out is a whole other level.
Whenever Beyoncé
so much as breathes it becomes a cultural moment. She’s often the
blueprint for the music industry – with artists and entertainers
following her lead. That’s the status she has earned after decades of a
career at the top, never making the same move twice, seeming to play in
an entirely different league to the majority of the music industry.
Beyoncé’s
commitment to storytelling musically and visually is unparalleled, as
is her power to have the world paying attention to the narratives,
struggles and nuanced lived experience of being a black woman – a world I
can only ever understand as an ally, and have no desire to overshadow.
But
that doesn’t excuse her use of ableist language – language that gets
used and ignored all too often. Language you can be sure I will never
ignore, no matter who it comes from or what the circumstances are. It
doesn’t excuse the fact that the teams of people involved in making this
album somehow missed all the noise the disabled community made only six
weeks ago when Lizzo did the same thing.
It
doesn’t explain how millions of people have already heard this album and
yet aren’t raising the issue, except to make fun of or degrade the
disabled community.
I’m so tired. Disabled people deserve better. I don’t want to have this conversation again.
Yeah. I heard it in the song last week. It’s a bummer. I’d rather them own it and be better going forward than not doing anything.
I'm really hoping she comes around on this one. And it probably wasn't meant to be derogatory, but how do you tell that to someone with a disability? She would do well to make amends somehow. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Never heard of it used in that way. Is this new?
It's not new to my knowledge, but then in the late 80's I subbed special ed a few times, have personally known Down Syndrome folks, have worked with people in the disabilities office at our local community college from the late 1990's to early 2000's, volunteered 1,000 hours at our health library, so I might take it for granted that most people know "spaz" is a derogatory term. To my way of thinking, it really should be common knowledge.
And yes, same with "dork". Kind of hard to believe that one is still thrown around. It too, by definition, is a derogatory term.
It seems to me that people who throw those terms around either have no experience with people with disabilities or maybe even have disdain for them. It sucks being disabled. Why make it harder? (I mean that generally. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone specifically.)
I would gather to say that everyone that uses dork or spaz is not targeting the special needs people. The term restarted wasn't doing that either IMO but because there was a past stigma with those words and people still want to revisit words that have taken on new meanings.
The term "gypped" as in "gypped me on that price" is a derogatory term or so I have read. It refers to Gypsies. They get a lot of flack.
Anybody feel like starting a thread on this, lol? Offensive words you didn't know that were?
Do doubt you're right that people saying "dork" and "spaz" are not intentionally targeting special needs people... but inadvertently, they are. Besides, those are words 4th graders, not grown adults.
In any case, yeah, this needs a different. thread.
On topic, still waiting for the live Dinosaur Jr pre-order (and actually glad to let my ears settle down after seeing The Dream Syndicate show). That Dino LP should be excellent!
Which Dinosaur Jr live vinyl are you referring to? Just curious if there is a new one.
anyone have a recommendation for a specific pressing of Bob Dylan's Bringing it All Back Home?
I have the Dylan mono box set from a few years ago which includes Bringing All Back Home. I love it. Every once in a while, these pop up on Amazon for a reasonable price. I got mine for around $200 if I remembered correctly.
anyone have a recommendation for a specific pressing of Bob Dylan's Bringing it All Back Home?
Oh man, the Bringing it All... LP eludes me. Over the years, I have found three copies of that LP in thrift store, all abused enough to not meet my standards. It's not that I'm anal about perfect vinyl, and I don't mid a few clicks or light pops, but all three had more noise than I want for a record of this stature, so I sold each of them at very reasonably priced through the bookstore. Finding a VG+ or better early pressing is a goal yet to be attained. I hope you can score a good one!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Few discogs purchases. Another attempt to shorten the wantlist, which never seems to come to fruition 🤔.
Nice on the Flipper albums. I have been wanting to do the repress' of those!
Sex Bomb.
The first two Flipper albums are must-listens at minimum. Beware of the 09 repress, according to a couple reviews it sounds terrible
Cool ty for that tidbit. I have a Rites of Spring OG 7" All Through a Life.
The white label??
Dis one.
For sure, but there are two 1987 pressings. One is a test pressing which has a white label that only says “Dischord 22” on it. Is that the one you have?
I think there is also a 1987 OG and then an ‘87 Repress as well.
Few discogs purchases. Another attempt to shorten the wantlist, which never seems to come to fruition 🤔.
Nice on the Flipper albums. I have been wanting to do the repress' of those!
Sex Bomb.
The first two Flipper albums are must-listens at minimum. Beware of the 09 repress, according to a couple reviews it sounds terrible
Cool ty for that tidbit. I have a Rites of Spring OG 7" All Through a Life.
The white label??
Dis one.
For sure, but there are two 1987 pressings. One is a test pressing which has a white label that only says “Dischord 22” on it. Is that the one you have?
I think there is also a 1987 OG and then an ‘87 Repress as well.
Mine is definitely not a test press. I wasn't aware that Dischord even let those out? Pretty sure mine is the OG. These aren't worth much anyways but still cool I have it from way back when.
Few discogs purchases. Another attempt to shorten the wantlist, which never seems to come to fruition 🤔.
Nice on the Flipper albums. I have been wanting to do the repress' of those!
Sex Bomb.
The first two Flipper albums are must-listens at minimum. Beware of the 09 repress, according to a couple reviews it sounds terrible
Cool ty for that tidbit. I have a Rites of Spring OG 7" All Through a Life.
The white label??
Dis one.
For sure, but there are two 1987 pressings. One is a test pressing which has a white label that only says “Dischord 22” on it. Is that the one you have?
I think there is also a 1987 OG and then an ‘87 Repress as well.
Mine is definitely not a test press. I wasn't aware that Dischord even let those out? Pretty sure mine is the OG. These aren't worth much anyways but still cool I have it from way back when.
Absolutely. RoS is criminally underrated. One test pressing copy sold for 200£ back in 2019 according to discogs.
I went back to the record store where I got those four OG sealed Pearl Jam’s. I knew the guy was still going through that massive collection he bought. I think there were 19,000 records he got from the same collection. Anyway, he found this one a few days ago. Sealed OG Mirrorball. It was $150. Original price tag was covered by his, but I could make out $12.99. I have been wanting this one for a while.
I wonder what he will find in that collection next. He offered me some REM that was in there but I have all the ones I want.
I went back to the record store where I got those four OG sealed Pearl Jam’s. I knew the guy was still going through that massive collection he bought. I think there were 19,000 records he got from the same collection. Anyway, he found this one a few days ago. Sealed OG Mirrorball. It was $150. Original price tag was covered by his, but I could make out $12.99. I have been wanting this one for a while.
I wonder what he will find in that collection next. He offered me some REM that was in there but I have all the ones I want.
I went back to the record store where I got those four OG sealed Pearl Jam’s. I knew the guy was still going through that massive collection he bought. I think there were 19,000 records he got from the same collection. Anyway, he found this one a few days ago. Sealed OG Mirrorball. It was $150. Original price tag was covered by his, but I could make out $12.99. I have been wanting this one for a while.
I wonder what he will find in that collection next. He offered me some REM that was in there but I have all the ones I want.
Well goddam, that's a good find.
Wow! Yeah, I’d take that in a heart beat if I came across one.
I went back to the record store where I got those four OG sealed Pearl Jam’s. I knew the guy was still going through that massive collection he bought. I think there were 19,000 records he got from the same collection. Anyway, he found this one a few days ago. Sealed OG Mirrorball. It was $150. Original price tag was covered by his, but I could make out $12.99. I have been wanting this one for a while.
I wonder what he will find in that collection next. He offered me some REM that was in there but I have all the ones I want.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I went back to the record store where I got those four OG sealed Pearl Jam’s. I knew the guy was still going through that massive collection he bought. I think there were 19,000 records he got from the same collection. Anyway, he found this one a few days ago. Sealed OG Mirrorball. It was $150. Original price tag was covered by his, but I could make out $12.99. I have been wanting this one for a while.
I wonder what he will find in that collection next. He offered me some REM that was in there but I have all the ones I want.
see what happens when you listen to me?
I know! I actually thought of you when I was buying this. Good advice
I went back to the record store where I got those four OG sealed Pearl Jam’s. I knew the guy was still going through that massive collection he bought. I think there were 19,000 records he got from the same collection. Anyway, he found this one a few days ago. Sealed OG Mirrorball. It was $150. Original price tag was covered by his, but I could make out $12.99. I have been wanting this one for a while.
I wonder what he will find in that collection next. He offered me some REM that was in there but I have all the ones I want.
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go figure
people are fine offending anyone, they just don’t want to be offended themselves. You can’t win
on topic. Got home this evening and unwrapping Jack white, and living in clip tonight
I also got a shipping notification for ‘Noise & Flowers’ today.
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
Here's the pre-order link:
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/dinosaur-jr-seventytwohundredseconds-live-on-mtv-1993-12-vinyl-ep/
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Oh man, the Bringing it All... LP eludes me. Over the years, I have found three copies of that LP in thrift store, all abused enough to not meet my standards. It's not that I'm anal about perfect vinyl, and I don't mid a few clicks or light pops, but all three had more noise than I want for a record of this stature, so I sold each of them at very reasonably priced through the bookstore. Finding a VG+ or better early pressing is a goal yet to be attained. I hope you can score a good one!
been discussed a lot here though
Source: 1/2" / 30 IPS analog master to DSD 256
They updated everything now other stuff says things like this:Mastering Source to Be Determined Closer to Production Date; Specifics Will Be Posted Here When Authenticated
I’ve never noticed this before either. Did they just modify the pic too? All very shady, and it appears they got busted
for sure they modified the description of the process as it didn’t use to say DSD
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see what happens when you listen to me?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
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