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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 24,861
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 

    MLB says josh hamilton was worse, but poo holes got twice the money.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    Severino, kluber/Carrasco, corbin, Tanaka, cc.

    More than happy with that.
  • cutzcutz Posts: 7,864
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
    Why do the Tribe have Kluber & Carrasaco available for trade? (Why trade them when their in a weak Division?)
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    cutz said:
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
    Why do the Tribe have Kluber & Carrasaco available for trade? (Why trade them when their in a weak Division?)
    Probably figure they can get a real good return and would still have a good rotation without at least one of them

    Yanks need to make a serious run at them 
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    Really starting to sound like they're not going after the big guys and are only concentrating on the rotation.  Not a fan.
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 9,720
    cutz said:
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
    Why do the Tribe have Kluber & Carrasaco available for trade? (Why trade them when their in a weak Division?)
    I think its more proactive and maybe extending their window, along with possibly enticing Lindor and/or Ramirez to extend/stay.

    Kluber will be 33 next season, and has thrown a lot of innings the past 5 seasons.  He may be Cy Young caliber for another couple seasons.  He could also bring in a pretty good return of prospects who can help in the medium-term and carry the team in the future.  Even without Kluber, they have a good rotation with Beiber ready to be a full time starter.  Before he got hurt, Bauer was looking like a Cy Young favorite.  They also have a couple top-end pitching prospects in the system in Tristan McKenzie and Ethan Hankins.  

    Looking 3 years down the road, financially there is no way they can afford all of Bauer, Kluber, and Carrasco.  Make a trade now and maximize the return and keep the organization primed for sustained success.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    MayDay10 said:
    cutz said:
    And there is your top end pitching available via trade. Carrasco and kluber. Corbin and one of them?
    Why do the Tribe have Kluber & Carrasaco available for trade? (Why trade them when their in a weak Division?)
    I think its more proactive and maybe extending their window, along with possibly enticing Lindor and/or Ramirez to extend/stay.

    Kluber will be 33 next season, and has thrown a lot of innings the past 5 seasons.  He may be Cy Young caliber for another couple seasons.  He could also bring in a pretty good return of prospects who can help in the medium-term and carry the team in the future.  Even without Kluber, they have a good rotation with Beiber ready to be a full time starter.  Before he got hurt, Bauer was looking like a Cy Young favorite.  They also have a couple top-end pitching prospects in the system in Tristan McKenzie and Ethan Hankins.  

    Looking 3 years down the road, financially there is no way they can afford all of Bauer, Kluber, and Carrasco.  Make a trade now and maximize the return and keep the organization primed for sustained success.
    Want Clint Frazier back? haha..I kid.

    Do think the Yanks could obviously match up well with you.
  • Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 
    I actually think Mo Vaughn was worse...
  • cutzcutz Posts: 7,864
    Here's  a little more :

    https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1645942

    Cashman says Yankees need to add multiple pitchers
    4h ago
    Mike Stobe / Getty Images Sport / Getty
    NEW YORK NY - MAY 10 CC Sabathia 52 of the New York Yankees pitches in the first inning against the Boston Red Sox at Yankee Stadium on May 10 2018 in the Bronx borough of New York City

    As expected, the New York Yankees are poised to be busy this offseason.

    General manager Brian Cashman said Monday that the team's number one priority is pitching.

    "We need to reinforce our pitching, so we'll do the best we can with that," Cashman said, according to Bryan Hoch of MLB.com. "That seems to be a yearly effort."

    "I'm interested in adding more than one pitcher," he added. "I need to, I think, add multiple."

    The Yankees saw several pitchers hit the open market after the 2018 campaign. Starters J.A. HappLance Lynn, and CC Sabathia, as well as relievers David Robertson and Zach Britton, are all free agents.

    Sabathia, for one, could find himself back in the Bronx. Cashman said there is mutual interest in bringing him back for an 11th season with the Yankees, according to Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.

    The Yankees are also still looking to move right-hander Sonny Gray in a trade. Cashman said "a lot of teams" are showing interest, per Feinsand.

    It's unknown whether bolstering pitching will stop the Yankees from going after Bryce Harper and Manny Machado, but Cashman didn't rule out spending big in the right circumstance.

    "The goal is always to win a championship and to do it in a cost-effective manner," Cashman said, according to Hoch. "As I say cost-effective, we're still a strong, heavy loaded payroll. We got under the tax, but we're still one of the higher payrolls in the game, as you would expect and as it should be."

  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    cutz said:
    Here's  a little more :

    https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/1645942

    Cashman says Yankees need to add multiple pitchers
    4h ago
    Mike Stobe / Getty Images Sport / Getty
    NEW YORK NY - MAY 10 CC Sabathia 52 of the New York Yankees pitches in the first inning against the Boston Red Sox at Yankee Stadium on May 10 2018 in the Bronx borough of New York City

    As expected, the New York Yankees are poised to be busy this offseason.

    General manager Brian Cashman said Monday that the team's number one priority is pitching.

    "We need to reinforce our pitching, so we'll do the best we can with that," Cashman said, according to Bryan Hoch of MLB.com. "That seems to be a yearly effort."

    "I'm interested in adding more than one pitcher," he added. "I need to, I think, add multiple."

    The Yankees saw several pitchers hit the open market after the 2018 campaign. Starters J.A. HappLance Lynn, and CC Sabathia, as well as relievers David Robertson and Zach Britton, are all free agents.

    Sabathia, for one, could find himself back in the Bronx. Cashman said there is mutual interest in bringing him back for an 11th season with the Yankees, according to Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.

    The Yankees are also still looking to move right-hander Sonny Gray in a trade. Cashman said "a lot of teams" are showing interest, per Feinsand.

    It's unknown whether bolstering pitching will stop the Yankees from going after Bryce Harper and Manny Machado, but Cashman didn't rule out spending big in the right circumstance.

    "The goal is always to win a championship and to do it in a cost-effective manner," Cashman said, according to Hoch. "As I say cost-effective, we're still a strong, heavy loaded payroll. We got under the tax, but we're still one of the higher payrolls in the game, as you would expect and as it should be."

    Well yeah, this is a fact. The lineup is going to hit without any upgrades...but I want upgrades dammit
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 9,720
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 
    I actually think Mo Vaughn was worse...
    Kevin Brown?  Hideki Irabu?  
  • MayDay10 said:
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 
    I actually think Mo Vaughn was worse...
    Kevin Brown?  Hideki Irabu?  
    Strictly Angels FA signings.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    Eh.  A good team for sure. Better than Boston? No way

    http://riveraveblues.com/2018/11/official-rab-2018-19-offseason-plan-180399/

  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    Hope that extra $30 mill or whatever was worth it, Robbie? 




  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    On a roll today.  Yes, please.  If they can get an ace + Corbin, I would be okay missing out on the big guys.


  • On a roll today.  Yes, please.  If they can get an ace + Corbin, I would be okay missing out on the big guys.


    Hot damn!
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 9,377
    MayDay10 said:
    Wobbie said:
    did you see MLB’s rating of the worst FA signing for every team? yankees’ was pavano. ellsbury had to be in the running.

    zito was the giants....but we forgive him for winning an elimination NLCS game and then beating verlander in the WS.
    Ellsbury is much worse than pavano, and I HATE pavano. Ellsbury May be the worst free agent signing ever.

    Angels signing poop holes is better 
    I actually think Mo Vaughn was worse...
    Kevin Brown?  Hideki Irabu?  

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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    A or B for this team?

    A. Kluber/Carrasco/Paxton and Corbin

    B. Machado and Corbin
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    CC back. Love it 
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 15,898
    someone is going to overpay for Corbin
    I miss igotid88
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    igotid88 said:
    someone is going to overpay for Corbin
    The Yankees 
  • cutzcutz Posts: 7,864
    CC back. Love it 
    I do too. He should finish his career with the NYY.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    cutz said:
    CC back. Love it 
    I do too. He should finish his career with the NYY.
    Agreed obviously.  I hope the yankees put a $500k bonus in there for pitching 2 innings.
  • cutz said:
    CC back. Love it 
    I do too. He should finish his career with the NYY.
    Agreed obviously.  I hope the yankees put a $500k bonus in there for pitching 2 innings.
    How about for showing up at training camp with an appropriate BMI?
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  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    cutz said:
    CC back. Love it 
    I do too. He should finish his career with the NYY.
    Agreed obviously.  I hope the yankees put a $500k bonus in there for pitching 2 innings.
    How about for showing up at training camp with an appropriate BMI?
    Good one. Have you ever tried stand up?  With jokes like this, you may want to give it a go.
  • cutzcutz Posts: 7,864
    If this is true.Thank You Cashman.

    https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2018/11/07/yankees-chris-sale-trade-cashman-severino/amp?__twitter_impression=true

    Yankees GM Brian Cashman on missing the Chris Sale trade: ‘Thank God’

    Despite Chris Sale’s instrumental role — both on and off the field — in helping the Red Sox win the 2018 World Series, the rival Yankees don’t regret avoiding a trade for him in 2016.

    In fact, New York’s longtime general manager is thankful for it.

    “Thank God I didn’t do that, actually, because you’d be missing some serious components of our major league club right now that are under control,” said Yankees GM Brian Cashman at the general managers’ meetings on Tuesday. “We wouldn’t have gotten anywhere if I did anything like that with the White Sox back then.”


    According to the New York Post, Cashman revealed that Yankees ace Luis Severino was part of the White Sox’ ask in the proposed deal to send Sale to the Yankees following the 2016 season. Additionally, Cashman claimed that Chicago demanded at least one other core position player.

    The Yankees refused the offer, and Cashman said he has “no regrets on that.”

    The Red Sox eventually parted with four prospects for Sale in December 2016, including top prospects Yoan Moncada and Michael Kopech. In two seasons with the White Sox, Moncada has played in 203 games, batting .234 with 25 home runs and a .724 OPS. Kopech made his Major League debut for Chicago in 2018, going 1-1 with a 5.02 ERA in four starts.

    Kopech tore his ulnar collateral ligament in September and will likely be out until the start of the 2020 season after having Tommy John surgery.

    In Sale’s two years with the Red Sox, he’s gone 29-12 with a 2.56 ERA and averaged 13.2 strikeouts per nine innings. Against the Yankees in the American League Division Series, Sale went 1-0 with a 2.84 ERA in two appearances.

    Most recently, his strikeout of Dodgers infielder Manny Machado won the World Series for Boston.


  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 9,720
    that just sounds like a crafty way to sidestep scrutiny in missing out on the star pitcher they have needed and him leading a bitter rival to the top.
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 28,045
    I don't know. Assuming they were asking for Severino, Andujar + or something along those lines, I don't disagree with him.  I'd say 10 years of them are more valuable than Sale.  Wouldn't it have taken a package like that to beat anything with Moncada in it?
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